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(Some Guy)   British politician tells media it would be just dandy if a suicide bomber killed Tony Blair   (news.independent.co.uk) divider line
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2006-05-26 1:57:09 AM  
George the Cat is now, has always been, and always will be an utter twat. Meow.
 
2006-05-26 2:15:46 AM  
thats pretty much how you get yourself arrested
 
Fie
2006-05-26 2:38:50 AM  
FTFA: "Mr Galloway shocked panellists on a live television discussion show in Havana by emerging on set mid-transmission to offer passionate support for Castro. Looking approvingly into each others' eyes, the pair embraced."

Gotta love the Brit press for their homophobia.
 
2006-05-26 3:59:41 AM  
Thank God I never voted for that arse. He was my constituency MP when he was still in the Labour Party. He was, is and always shall be an annoying twat.
 
2006-05-26 4:17:38 AM  
All I can ever see him as is a big, whiskery cat, drinking imaginary milk from Rula whats-her-face's hands.

Terrifying.
 
2006-05-26 4:43:33 AM  
GO GORGEOUS GEORGE!

Never a dull moment with that loonbag.
 
2006-05-26 4:45:30 AM  
For many and varied reasons, this man is quite clearly a farkwit, but is he really wrong in this instance?

If the question is rephrased to remove the element of suicide bombing, which most of us have a visceral reaction against, it could be stated thus:

"Is the leader of a nation which has declared war and invaded your country a valid military target?"

I'm not entirely sure that the answer to that is no.

(Dear NSA,GCHQ - I am in no way advocating the murder of anyone, please don't kidnap and torture me)
 
2006-05-26 5:31:17 AM  
Isn't that illegal somehow, if not why not?
 
2006-05-26 5:32:10 AM  
It'd be just fine with me too, for the reasons Dammit so eloquently stated. And because I loathe the farker.
 
2006-05-26 5:53:20 AM  
Let me qualify that statement for the Men In Black:

I understand completely where Galloway is coming from and agree with the following statement:

Mr Galloway replied: "Yes, it would be morally justified. I am not calling for it - but if it happened it would be of a wholly different moral order to the events of 7/7. It would be entirely logical and explicable. And morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq - as Blair did."

Oh, and I loathe the farker.
 
2006-05-26 6:01:20 AM  
Gsm136: Isn't that illegal somehow, if not why not?

Because we're supposed to be free enough to be batshiat insane douchebags like Galloway is. And as much as I dislike Blair, if he just went away that would be fine by me.
 
2006-05-26 6:10:01 AM  
Well I guess it would be poetic justice of a sort.

Come on, look me in the eyes and tell me you haven't once thought it would, in a way, be kind of neat if Bush or Blair paid a visit to Iraq and was assassinated by the insurgency?
 
2006-05-26 6:12:14 AM  
I don't mean it would be a good thing, by the way. I know they are human beings and that they have families who would mourn them, and so on and so forth. I'm just saying... it appeals in an unemotional way, because it seems somewhat fitting a fate for them.
 
2006-05-26 6:42:17 AM  
Abelian Groupie:

Come on, look me in the eyes and tell me you haven't once thought it would, in a way, be kind of neat if Bush or Blair paid a visit to Iraq and was assassinated by the insurgency?

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2006-05-26 7:05:29 AM  
The owl looks cross. It scares me ;_;
 
2006-05-26 7:19:01 AM  
2006-05-26 06:10:01 AM Abelian Groupie: Well I guess it would be poetic justice of a sort. Come on, look me in the eyes and tell me you haven't once thought it would, in a way, be kind of neat if Bush or Blair paid a visit to Iraq and was assassinated by the insurgency?

2006-05-26 06:12:14 AM Abelian Groupie: I don't mean it would be a good thing, by the way. I know they are human beings and that they have families who would mourn them, and so on and so forth. I'm just saying... it appeals in an unemotional way, because it seems somewhat fitting a fate for them.


As a pro-war guy, let me provide some free advice to "the enemy" which is the anti-war camp.

When anti-war people wish death and/or injury on leaders who are known to be pro-war, what this does is forever alienate the issue of "blood lust" from the debate because it proves that some anti-war people have at least as much blood-lust as anybody else, perhaps even more of it, and have no misgivings about actually embracing it. It proves that the anti-war faction has been insincere about its motives. It demonstrates that the "peace at any price" crowd, in fact, doesn't really want peace. Or that if they do, they define peace the way the old-time soviets defined it -- an end, not only to fighting, but to any dissent whatsoever, after our system of government gets everything it wants.

But I do hope the anti-war people make fun of me and ignore what I have to say here. Whenever they open their big mouths and start wishing death on people, it highlights the problems with their cause. I particularly appreciate it when they're caught celebrating so-and-so-many deaths of soldiers in Iraq, slander the entire military for the actions of a few at Abu Ghraib, and make up stories about executing civilians. Give these folks enough rope, they will hang themselves, as Mr. Galloway has repeatedly shown.
 
2006-05-26 7:23:07 AM  
You have misunderstood me. I did not wish death on anybody.
 
2006-05-26 7:29:42 AM  
mkfreeberg - nobody's wished death on anyone - we've said we'd understand if Blair was considered a target. Congratulations on not being able to read.
 
2006-05-26 7:31:17 AM  
See, the thing is, we're not supposed to be scared of saying things like that, because that's totalitarianism.

And I like batshiat insane politicians. I think we need more of them.
 
2006-05-26 7:36:24 AM  
Okay, well, "kind of neat" implies approval and was a bad choice of words. What I meant to say was that from a dispassionate point of view it could be seen as, in an ironic fashion, just - from someone with a particular interpretation of the morality of the Iraq war. But I think it's clear from the rest of my two posts what I was trying to convey.
 
2006-05-26 7:43:27 AM  
MP George Galloway, sir, you are a most pompous ass!
 
2006-05-26 7:53:22 AM  
mkfreeberg: As a pro-war guy, let me provide some free advice to "the enemy" which is the anti-war camp.


You can stop there. Nobody would rejoice in Blair being attacked and / or killed. Merely that he is a legitimate target. All leaders that send soldiers into a battle should be at the front of the charge.

And I thought "the enemy" were the guys whose country we, er, invaded.
 
2006-05-26 8:36:58 AM  
mkfreeberg
As a pro-war guy, let me provide some free advice to "the enemy" which is the anti-war camp


And as a person who abhors the illegal Iraq war let me say that I'm proud to be your enemy.

To me the real enemy are the people who put Israel's best interest before that of the U.S. People like Wolfowitz,Perle,Abrams,Feith,Tommy Franks,Kristol,Krauthammer and the rest of the Jewish neocons who orchestrated this gravest of errors. And the greedy bastards like Cheney and Bush who made it happen for their masters. The defense contractors.

/isn't anti semitic.
//is anti neocon
///doesn't think it's a coincidence they all ended up in positions of power in this administration and we ended up in Iraq

PNAC website(pops)
 
2006-05-26 8:40:45 AM  
Galloway is a nob, though I don't think I'd shed a tear over Blair's passing either.
 
2006-05-26 8:52:19 AM  
mkfreeberg

But I do hope the anti-war people make fun of me and ignore what I have to say here.



I don't think that will be a problem, because you typed out something really dumb. You seem to lump all people into two camps; pro-war and anti-war, with no regard for the fact that most, like myself, decide whether the action of war is justified based on the individual merits of each case.

Am I "anti-war"? No. Am I "anti-Iraq war"? Yes.

Just to satisfy your request to be made fun of: You, sir, are a cockmunching farkface.
 
2006-05-26 11:52:07 AM  
"Will someone please restrain Mrs. Thatcher!"
 
2006-05-26 1:46:49 PM  
DammitIForgotMyLogin: "Is the leader of a nation which has declared war and invaded your country a valid military target?"

I think so. When playing chess, one doesn't wipe out the pawns and knights while considering the king sacrosanct. Instead, if you can create an opportunity to bag the king without risking your own king or too many of your own pieces, you damned well take advantage of the situation.
 
2006-05-26 3:14:07 PM  
Hobodeluxe you ARE an antisemite. Neo-con is a codeword for "evil Jews"
 
2006-05-26 4:29:33 PM  
Didn't he say this in an interview with Piers Morgan? The guy who published the faked Iraq abuse pictures, okayed headlines about a football game that used WWII imagery, bought shares in a computer company the day before his newspaper published a glowing report about them, etc.

How does this guy still get work? Let alone trying to portray any politicians as bad guys when he has been caught doing worse than most of them.
 
2006-05-27 12:04:18 PM  
Homodeluxe
And as a person who abhors the illegal Iraq war let me say that I'm proud to be your enemy.

Whoa, slow down, the war wasn't illegal at all. Actually there were many UN Security Council Resolutions passed to use force against Iraq, yet the UN is too afraid to actually act on their decisions.

As a second point, since when is war 'illegal'? I've yet to see anyone find a way to stop a war because they might think it is illegal. I mean really, what are they going to do, fight another 'illegal' war against an illegal war?
 
2006-05-28 9:48:30 PM  
Galloway was entrapped in this media interview by giving a hypothetical answer to a prompted hypothetical question. You may not agree with him, but that's not the point.

"Would the assassination of, say, Tony Blair by a suicide bomber -- if there were no other casualties -- be justified as revenge for the war on Iraq?"

Galloway (who considered the war illegal from the start) replies:

"Yes, it would be morally justified. I am not calling for it, but if it happened it would be of a wholly different moral order to the events of 7/7. It would be entirely logical and explicable. And morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq, as Blair did."

Ever since his excellent performance in telling the Senate committe a few home truths, there has been a systemic attempt to discredit him in the media. This is just another black propaganda attack on him.

I disagree with his passion for dictators, but morally wrt the war he has been consistent and often justified.
 
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