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2006-05-02 7:24:25 AM  
madcharlie: In a desperate situation you can drink your own urine 2-3 times before it becomes toxic.

Much like Miller Lite.
2006-05-02 7:26:49 AM  
I don't drink beer. Tastes like piss smells, awful.
2006-05-02 7:38:10 AM  
Hmmm ... lets see how good I am.

Off the top of my head:

Betaglucanase ~ sugar conversion (originating from fungi, I think)
Ammonia caramel ~ coloring
Rhoiso-alpha acids ~ hop bitterness
Sulphur dioxide ~ fermentation interruption
Protease ~ protein breakdown
Amyloglucosidase ~ sugar conversion (most likely a bacterial origin)
Propylene glycol alginate ~ hmmm ... for thickness or head retention?
Silicone ~ clarifier

/ chemical biologist, bioorganic chemist, homebrewer, all-around beer geek
2006-05-02 7:45:56 AM  
The beer I drink is pretty pure. I make it myself. Lessee... malted barley, hops, yeast, water which has been filtered to remove the chlorine etc. A pinch of Irish moss. That's about it.
2006-05-02 7:48:45 AM  
As I homebrewer, I'd be interested in getting my hands on some beta-glucanse (beta-glycosidase; cellulase).

These breakdown the unfermentable cellulose left behind by the grain used for beer.

I'd be interested in how kick-ass I can make a barleywine with all that extra available sugar (though it might taste horrible; bring with it all the extra tannins found in grain husks).
2006-05-02 7:52:10 AM  
Most cheap or mass produced US beers give me a massive headache, stomach ache and taste like chemicals to me.
Most decent homebrew, microbrews or german beers I don't have a problem with.

Offering me an MGD, might as well be offering me a bottle of window cleaner - blech.

Knew a couple of home brewers that started adding all sorts of non natural additives to make brewing their beer easier. It ruined their previously good beer recipes and made more than a few people sick.

/Make mead at home. Honey,water,yeast. Easy, no hangover.
2006-05-02 7:52:49 AM  
AesopRock_00, good ole flopp

Yeah Newcastle Brown is pretty well known for having plenty of nasty chemicals in it. I'm sure its not just local rumours.

Is it a mass produced beer? Yep.
Have they ever made claims in adverts about purity? Nope. (and even Bud does that.)
Does every bottle/pint have exactly the same sweet taste and Coca-cola-like look? Yep.
Does it give you a shiatty hangover? Definately.

Not that I don't have one myself occasionally, but it's far from a Real Ale.
2006-05-02 8:29:20 AM  
How deep is your love?
2006-05-02 8:30:42 AM  

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2006-05-02 8:31:28 AM  
Although both are safe food additives, they hardly sound tempting, and beer drinkers would most likely wish to avoid them.

So, the premise of the article is if something uses a scientific name, you should avoid it. Must have been a slow news day and they were scraping for something to publish.
2006-05-02 8:33:32 AM  
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2006-05-02 8:36:22 AM  
Right now, I'm in Japan, and I just finished drinking some beer I've never heard of that was about 100 yen a can (way cheap here) with a faux-German name.

I'm guessing it's not particularly pure.
2006-05-02 8:39:26 AM  
Seeing as how I live in Stuttgart, and it's Fruhlingsfest time... those three liters of beer were pretty damn pure.

I know, I'm a lightweight. But that was three liters in two-and-a-half hours!! ...and I had to work the next day!
2006-05-02 8:43:02 AM  
JohnGaltDiscGolfer: I live 2 miles from Bell's. Life is wonderful!

Bell's Two Hearted Ale......Now that's good beer!
2006-05-02 8:43:20 AM  
Fruhlingsfest link, sorry I have no html skilz
2006-05-02 8:44:31 AM  
I live in Taiwan and I quit drinking any local or chinese beer because the hangovers were really nasty. I think that they hadn't quite figured out what chemicals not to add to beer yet, but in China I think the water that they use has so many chemicals in it, they don't need to add any.
2006-05-02 8:45:17 AM  
Teutonic_Knight: Coors Light- 550 Ingredients
Miller Lite- 900 Ingredients
Bud Light- 1600 Ingredients

You know, I may be the biggest hater of bidmillercoors but this is plain BS
2006-05-02 8:48:14 AM  

Mr. Beer is junk
2006-05-02 8:49:36 AM  
ImJustaTroll: I don't drink beer. Tastes like piss smells, awful.

Man. You must have had a lot of time on your hands to be able to taste test all the beers in the world

2006-05-02 8:58:07 AM  
HeartlessLibertarian: Almost like brown water mixed with saliva.

There you go, bringing politics into it.

Sir, pay no attention to the people who say the glass is half empty, because 32% means it's 2/3 empty. There's still some liquid in that glass is my point, but I wouldn't drink it. The last third is usually backwash.
2006-05-02 8:58:52 AM  
Dammit people...the real danger in beer production is the use of Dihydrogen Monoxide(pops). That stuff should be banned.
2006-05-02 8:59:52 AM  
DAMMIT!! now you've got me thirsty for a beer.....
and it's only 9:00 a.m.

/don't have a drinking problem
//it's got me
2006-05-02 9:07:10 AM  
Heineken? Fark that shiate! Pabst Blue Ribbon!

2006-05-02 9:07:35 AM  
I'd be interested in how kick-ass I can make a barleywine with all that extra available sugar (though it might taste horrible; bring with it all the extra tannins found in grain husks).

Would be thin, watery, no body. Just add more base malt.
2006-05-02 9:11:32 AM  
Article probably written by a Brit with OCD and hypochondriasis. You think this is bad, ask Bud/Miller/Coors what they put in their beers.

Gimme a craft beer anyday over some lite lager crap thats loaded with corn and/or rice syrup and isomerized hop extracts.
2006-05-02 9:13:47 AM  
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The best german-style wheat beer you'll ever have.
2006-05-02 9:33:53 AM  
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best beer in the world
/support your local brewery
2006-05-02 9:39:00 AM  
All my fave brews come from the British Isles. I've a favorite from England, Scotland and Ireland, but I'm clueless when it comes to Welsh beers. Can anyone advise?
2006-05-02 9:43:42 AM  
rocinante721 and South Carolina BigFish:

I work for a beer dist and we get figures like these all the times. This is why we store beer in different temps. Coors has to be stored in coolers, at under 60 degrees.

Trust me, those macro beers have a ton of stuff in them, so many additives and such.
2006-05-02 9:48:33 AM  
For a generally safe, brew I drink all the time (as opposed to the the fancier micro-brews and imports)

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/ Yuengling is German meaning 'Young Man'. It is pronounced "Ying-Ling'.

//those coors and anheiser pissbreaks do nothing but cause headaches, and I'm talking even after 8oz...nasty crap they put in those brews!
2006-05-02 10:09:38 AM  
German sportshakes rock!

Bitte ein Bit
2006-05-02 10:15:25 AM  
Another vote for the hotty totty toward the bottom of the article. I'd let her drink me under the table anyday.
2006-05-02 10:16:40 AM  
quiefNpea- Our dist center is in a working contract to carry Yuengling. I hope it goes through! One of the best beers I have ever had.
2006-05-02 10:17:19 AM  
drink more craft beer.
2006-05-02 10:18:42 AM  
"Trust me, those macro beers have a ton of stuff in them, so many additives and such."

Trust me, you don't have a clue.
I have made beer in my home from the day Jimmy Carter legalized it.
I have owned two home brew stores
I have owned two beer stores where I sold beer to the public.
I have brewed beer with 3 different professional brewers here in Charleston SC (Palmetto, T-bones and South end brewery) and the beers consist of malt, barley, hops and yeast. One brewery use Irish moss (seaweed)
Where do you get your data? Working for a dist gives you know insight into whats in it.

As far as the Coors thing goes, Its all marketing. keeping Coors cold is nice, BUT did you ever see it warm on the self in a store(yes its done almost everywhere)without any ill effect to the beer. Besides, if they added so many additives don't you think that would be to make sure the beer had a long shelf life and would NOT go bad. If that where true why would they go to so much trouble to keep it cold? And if it necessary to keep beer cold to keep it from going bad don't you think AB and Miller would do it too? after all, they are 10 times the size of Coors and could do it without blinking if they needed to
(all refers to non keg beer, that's a different ball of wax altogether)
What most people know about beer could fit in a 8 oz nip bottle
2006-05-02 10:32:59 AM  
South Carolina Big Fish

Come to We like your kind there.
2006-05-02 10:34:34 AM  
Dihydrogen monoxide is the leading cause of drowning deaths in the U.S. It is very, very scary stuff.
2006-05-02 10:36:58 AM  
I live about an hour and a half drive from Belgium, life is definately good.
Only drink witte/weisse beer these days, the fizzy lager efforts make me sick, oh well.
2006-05-02 10:39:06 AM  

Dude... no trappist ales?
2006-05-02 10:39:07 AM  
I brew my own, and it's pure....
2006-05-02 10:40:11 AM  

sorry to butt in...but it seems like he said "macro" instead of "micro"

but i agree with the rest of your post.
\homebrewer 8+ years
\\likes the irish moss
\\\occasionally uses gypsum b/c of the water
2006-05-02 10:42:38 AM  
I like beer. Micro. Macro. Expensive. Cheap. I like it. Sure there are brands I won't touch, but there is no need to be a snob about.

Its beer. I refuse to worry about if its healthy. Its beer. Moderation is the most important thing. That holds true with every food and drink, except for water.
2006-05-02 10:43:50 AM  
"Consumers deserve to know what goes into their [alcoholic] drink in the same way as they would any other product," says Camra research and information manager Iain Loe.

"Brewers shouldn't have anything to hide."

I'll drink to that!

Think globally, drink locally. Just picked up a case of Heavy Seas Small Craft Warning last night. Mmmm, Imperial Pilsner... made from water, barley, yeast, and lots and lots of hops.
2006-05-02 10:47:16 AM  
By the way, this is the best micro brewed beer in the US;

Their IPA is phenominal.
2006-05-02 10:48:16 AM  
quiefNpea, Teutonic_Knight

Yeungling Porter... the best bang for your buck in American dark beers available today.
2006-05-02 10:49:25 AM  
Just to remark on the "snob" comments. I wouldn't call myself or anyone else a beer snob because they choose to support the people who take the time and effort to make great beer and strive to give beer a better image, the image AB and other macros have helped destroy. I like the underdog, especially when he is fighting the good fight.
2006-05-02 10:50:08 AM  
Although both are safe food additives, they hardly sound tempting, and beer drinkers would most likely wish to avoid them.

And that's where you'd be wrong!

/wait, rhohypnol is all-natural, right?
//I can't remember
2006-05-02 10:51:28 AM  
platypusjones: sorry to butt in...but it seems like he said "macro" instead of "micro"

Your right, my bad....But I still can't buy that. As much as I hate AB products, I just can not believe they put tons of crap in what they call beer. AB is so strict in its brewing process and ingredients that its no wonder they are number one (that and marketing) I lived in STL for years and drank enough Bud to float the battleship Missouri. I have been on the tour at AB so many times they knew me by my first name (Not kidding) and the pains they go to to make the best product they can using the best ingredients they can is amazing.
Now if you want to talk about how they use/change/mutate yeast, that's a different matter.
2006-05-02 10:54:44 AM  
wyckedsmile: Their IPA is phenominal.

The 60 min IPA rocks. The first time I met my wife she was handing me a 60 min IPA. She smiled and said, "here, try this"
She had me at "here"

good beer!
2006-05-02 10:56:14 AM  
Johnnycache's guide to Texas beers

As a Texan, Shiner Bock is fair, Shiner Premium was really good for a cheap session beer but didn't sell well outside of the immediate area surrounding the brewery, albeit it was never marketed like Shiner Bock was, Shiner Blonde is fair, Shiner Hefe is likely my least favorite hefeweissen but drinkable.

For what it's worth, back before they killed the premium, that's what most people that lived around the brewery and or worked there drank. My sister was engaged to one of those people at the time. Bock is so so in colder months and it's hellaciously syrupy on a hot summer day.

Live Oak Brewery does the best job of Texas brewers of any size but it's only available in keg form because they don't care to hassle with bottling. No, I don't work for them but I drink alot of their products when available/convenient.

Saint Arnold Brewing Comany is likely second place in Texas brewers. You can buy bottles at the store.

Great Grains Brewing Company was maybe third place and available in bottles but they went out of business. They made the Balcones Fault and Yellow Rose series of forgettable beers.

Celis was quite good belgian styles but then they sold out to Northern people who A: did detrimental things to the beers, and B: no longer a texas beer. Celis himself moved back to Belgium and is making quite good beers over there again.

Austin Brew Pubs, because that's where I live.....near anyway

Lovejoy's Tap Room in Austin makes some fine beers and has an enormous collection of beers on tap from everywhere, the one commonality is they don't have anything that sucks. Funny thing to watch once: Guy came in to order a miller lite, was told they didn't sell that, then tried for miller, bud light, budweiser. Same response. "What kind of bar doesn't have any of those beers? This place sucks!" "Umm, a bar designed for people that care about beers?" he stormed off. It was very funny.

Coppertank caters to a young moron beer crowd and their beers are reflective of that. Often if you ask for something they brewed the waitresses aren't even aware that it exists because it's mostly a light/lite beer kinda crowd that comes out to be young and drunk not savor beers.

The Draught House truly cares about their beers and crafts many fine beers of their own, some regulars and some seasonal like Lovejoy's. Stuffier more yuppy atmosphere than Lovejoy's however. More medical assistants and lawyers and less free-press writers and musician/theater types. Much lower percentage of hot young hipster girls.

Lone Star and Pearl are what they are, macrobrews that are tolerable if that's all you have/can afford. I tend to go for Modelo Especial in those circumstances. Lawn mowing, busllshiatting with non-beer people kinda beers.

Happy Drinking
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