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(Reuters)   Director of the first "Basic Instinct" says it's bombing because George Bush has "banned anything that is erotic in the United States"   (today.reuters.com) divider line
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sigdiamond2000
2006-04-03 10:56:53 AM  
Paul Verhoven is an idiot.
 
albo
2006-04-03 10:57:12 AM  
Scribe Nicholas Meyer, who was an uncredited writer on 1987's seminal sex-fueled cautionary tale "Fatal Attraction," agrees, noting that the genre's downfall coincides with the ascent of the conservative political movement.

"We're in a big puritanical mode," he said. "Now, it's like the McCarthy era, except it's not 'Are you a communist?' but 'Have you ever put sex in a movie?'"

we have TV shows and movies about gay people, polygamy on HBO, skin on Skinamax, hooking up on half the reality shows out there, porn all over the internet. this ain't the 50s. don't use glibness to distract from your inability to make decent erotic movies
 
krelborne
2006-04-03 10:59:59 AM  
Why would I pay money to see a soft core pr0n flick when I'm practically tripping over pr0n on the internets? Hell, with a little searching, I could probably download all the good bits of the movie and avoid all the crap filler.
 
sigdiamond2000
2006-04-03 11:03:16 AM  
2006-04-03 10:57:12 AM albo

don't use glibness to distract from your inability to make decent erotic movies

Bingo.
 
MrBeefy
2006-04-03 11:05:02 AM  
Unfaithful did pretty well a few years ago because the eroticism was done right. Perhaps if you consider making erotic films that aren't obvious grabs for cash and fame, you might turn a profit.
 
Lord of Allusions
2006-04-03 11:05:59 AM  
Perhaps what was shocking in the early-90's is stock material for sitcoms these days has more to do with it.
 
Smookyfufu
2006-04-03 11:11:57 AM  
Eroticism scmerotcism, I just watched that movie to see Diane Lane's great tits. I wasn't wanking to the art.
 
patrick767
2006-04-03 11:13:27 AM  
"We're in a big puritanical mode," he said. "Now, it's like the McCarthy era, except it's not 'Are you a communist?' but 'Have you ever put sex in a movie?'"

Next he should compare the review board to Nazis.
 
blizzardlane
2006-04-03 11:13:28 AM  
I love it when people cry "censorship" when it's not. Dudes, make a good movie and people will go see it. I read REALLY mixed reviews of this "Basic Instinct" sequel, and since I've already seen "The Mummy 2," I'm passing on it.
 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark]
2006-04-03 11:16:33 AM  
blizzardlane: I read REALLY mixed reviews of this "Basic Instinct" sequel

Me too: a mixture of "sucks" and "blows."
 
szmike
2006-04-03 11:19:08 AM  
Riiiiiiiight. And Oliver Stone's Alexander bombed only because Red State America didn't want to see men hugging.
 
szmike
2006-04-03 11:22:58 AM  
MrBeefy


Unfaithful did pretty well a few years ago because the eroticism was done right. Perhaps if you consider making erotic films that aren't obvious grabs for cash and fame,

Or at least consider making erotic films with people we actually want to see naked.

If anything, George W Bush's puritanical America should create an even bigger audiemn for erotic films. With all other media being whitewashed, where else can you go to see boobies and vag?
 
darkhorse23 [OhFark]
2006-04-03 11:23:03 AM  
albo: don't use glibness to distract from your inability to make decent erotic movies

Thank you!!!!!!
 
MuadDib
2006-04-03 11:32:36 AM  
Basic Instinct II flops:

The critics were merciless about Basic Instinct, complaining that the film was deathly boring and only a pale imitation of the 1992 sexual-tension packed original that Stone, Michal Douglas and director Paul Verhoeven made into a film classic.

But that had nothing to do with it. Doubtless it's also Bush's fault that every time Paul Verhoeven does laundry, one of his socks disappears.
 
NikolaiFarkoff [TotalFark]
2006-04-03 12:25:16 PM  
Bush banned it? Uh-oh, I hope that hasn't created the unintended consequence of "everyone wanting to see it"!

It hasn't? Oh, ok.
 
GurneyHalleck
2006-04-03 1:09:25 PM  
Oh, Paul, why have you forsaken us? You rightly predicted that Ahnold was really a fascist, Doogie Houser was a psychic and that big cars would come back again. Where has your talent gone? Bush sucks, but don't blame your crappy movie on him.
 
IdBeCrazyIf
2006-04-03 1:12:50 PM  
krelborne: Why would I pay money to see a soft core pr0n flick when I'm practically tripping over pr0n on the internets? Hell, with a little searching, I could probably download all the good bits of the movie and avoid all the crap filler.

The cut threesome scene is somewhere running free on the grassy hills of the usenet right now.

If I weren't download Bella's greatist hits, and waiting for a sugar flick in the mail right now maybe I'd take the time to go find it.

/Land of puritan my ass
 
Mosey
2006-04-03 1:26:14 PM  
Secretary did pretty damn well when it was out, and that is about as racy as you get. A cutter who has a master/slave relationship with her boss including some sexual mentions that make Ron Jeremy blush.

Yeah, must be the Prez...

Oliver Stone tried the same thing when Troy bombed.
 
anal brazil men
2006-04-03 1:29:08 PM  
This is a clear example of "post hoc ergo propter hoc." Nobody saw Basic Instinct 2 because it looks terrible. And anyone can download nude Sharon Stone pics for free.

/I've been waiting a while to use that phrase.
//yes I'm a jackass
 
szmike
2006-04-03 1:42:45 PM  
Mosey

Oliver Stone tried the same thing when Troy bombed.

It was Alexander, but yeah, Ollie Stone blamed that movie bombing on Bush's red state America not wanting to see a movie about gay men hugging.

Now if he can only account for Brokeback Mountain becoming a hit in those same red state when that film has an actual buttsecks scene.
 
dittybopper
2006-04-03 1:53:32 PM  
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In a situation like this, I always ask myself, what would my hero Edward R. Murrow think? And I think that Ed would think that this was censorship. Then I think about what my other hero, General George Patton, would think, and I think George would think that the movies ought to be cleaned up, and if he were alive today, he'd take two armoured calvalry divisions into Hollywood and knock all those liberal pinheads into the Pacific! So as you can see, I'm a very confused man. And when I get confused, I read FARK. FARK is never confusing. It's all so simple somehow.
 
Abagadro
2006-04-03 3:33:31 PM  
That headline is confusing in its misuse of pronouns.

I love Verhoeven. You do know he just likes to yank people's chains right?
 
TheAnvil
2006-04-03 4:11:25 PM  
The first one sucked ass too (except for Jeanne Tripplehorn). The only reason it didn't bomb is because there was not enough interent pr0n back then.
 
TheAnvil
2006-04-03 4:13:04 PM  
Smookyfufu: Eroticism scmerotcism, I just watched that movie to see Diane Lane's great tits. I wasn't wanking to the art.

Yep. Someone told me Monster's Ball was a good movie, but, whatever.
 
downtownkid
2006-04-03 4:15:16 PM  
BTW, Verhoeven is a certifiable lunatic. Know this from personal experience.
 
Mr. Anon
2006-04-03 4:15:46 PM  
Someone wants to see Sharon Stone naked at nearly 50?

Seriously?

what a dumb premise for a movie. "We've got naked cougars!"
 
braedan
2006-04-03 4:20:15 PM  
Director of the first "Basic Instinct" says it's bombing because George Bush has "banned anything that is erotic in the United States"

OMG - THEY'RE TAKING OFF RERUNS OF GOLDEN GIRLS!?

/interabang
 
Mugato [TotalFark]
2006-04-03 4:23:18 PM  
Verhoeven. I can't think of one movie that guy made where some woman wasn't raped or graphically murdered.
 
milk_plus
2006-04-03 4:31:04 PM  
The problem may very well have been a 50+ year old bush but it wasn't the one in office.
 
squealie
2006-04-03 4:48:07 PM  
Ka-CHING, milk_plus . I have read with extreme glee the eviscerating reviews given to BI2. I can see where the first one *may* have had some things to recommend it (most notably the score by the late great Jerry Goldsmith) and I suppose the hard-core erotic aspects were novel and daring at the time, but to say it needed a sequel 14 years later with the same star but minus the original director, screenwriter, and composer is another example of Hollywood delusion at its worst.
/won't see it
 
Mix97
2006-04-03 5:10:45 PM  
Jesus!!! I saw Sharons snatch in BI2.. And let me tell you, it looked like farkin' cottage cheese!
 
mishmashmusic
2006-04-03 5:27:05 PM  
milk_plus

We have a winner!
 
Hilary T. N. Seuss
2006-04-03 5:36:52 PM  
Korea used to be a big erotic thriller market (in the '80s and '90s). Japan, too.

Hollywood, I've got one word for you: tentacles.
 
ToxicMunkee
2006-04-03 5:41:18 PM  
Since the movie has been released, I believe he's using the word "banned" incorrectly. Not that I'm surprised to see a film maker being melodramatic.
 
akula
2006-04-03 5:51:28 PM  
Yup, that's us red-staters.

We had the "suppress-o-matic" morality machine all primed and ready to go for "BI2." Looks like it worked.

Or for those of you who live in a place I like to call REALITY, there is one incontrovertible fact where movie attendance is concerned (studios take note):

People will pay to see movies they want to see, and will not pay to see movies they do not want to see. Therefore, if you wish to make money, then it is wise to make movies people wish to see.
 
Jello Jiggler
2006-04-03 5:56:07 PM  
I can't take credit for this, but on another message board a fellow claimed he was afraid of going to Basic Instict 2 out of fear of seeing "A mayo sandwich being eaten by a bulldog."

The mental image stayed with me for hours, and now you must all be subjected to it as well.
 
Confabulat [TotalFark]
2006-04-03 5:58:18 PM  
The man who wrote three "Star Trek" movies is complaining about a lack of eroticism in modern movies.

Where is that Ironic tag?
 
Lehk
2006-04-03 7:12:04 PM  
of course the film being a steaming piece of shiat has nothing to do with the poor sales
 
Geotpf
2006-04-03 7:21:14 PM  
Rotten Tomatoe Rating: 6%

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/basic_instinct_2/

That's hard to do, but at least it beat "Larry the Cable Guy", which only got 4%.

Oh wait, no it didn't. In the box office, it TIED Larry the Redneck with a paltry $3.2 million.
 
JohnGault
2006-04-03 7:26:45 PM  
milk_plus
The problem may very well have been a 50+ year old bush but it wasn't the one in office.
------------------------------------------
Milk Plus owes myself and the wife a new keyboard...

YOU HAVE WON THE INTERNETS !!!!

GO MILKPLUS
 
RockIsDead
2006-04-03 7:52:35 PM  
HAHAHAHA!

Another Bush-blaming clueless Liberal asshole.
 
RockIsDead
2006-04-03 7:55:06 PM  
Abagadro: I love Verhoeven. You do know he just likes to yank people's chains right?

Yeah, sure. I guess you could say that about Phelps, Robertson, Bin Laden, etc...
 
Mugato [TotalFark]
2006-04-03 8:28:30 PM  
RockIsDead: Another Bush-blaming clueless Liberal asshole.

Verhoevan is anything but liberal. He's actually been planning on doing a bio-pic on Hitler for a while now, true story. And I honestly wonder which side he's going to take.

Just because a few dumbasses throw Bush's name around, doesn't mean the other 80% are wrong.
 
SportingWood
2006-04-03 8:32:22 PM  
Umm... Banned? Cripes... look at what's on TV these days and then say that with a straight face.

The guy should be ticked at the director that made a move that was totally waxed at the box office by a freakin' cartoon. Who's the idiot that decided to release it at the same time as Ice Age 2? That's the guy that should be fired.

-Wood
 
RockIsDead
2006-04-03 8:42:50 PM  
Mugato:

Just because a few dumbasses throw Bush's name around, doesn't mean the other 80% are wrong.

No. But he's riding on the coattails of the trend, so screw him.
 
ekdikeo4
2006-04-04 12:44:28 AM  
How about... "Sony only got it out to 1500 theaters, and they put it out on the weekend when quite possibly the most anticipated children's film of the year, if not the decade, was released" .??
 
ekdikeo4
2006-04-04 12:48:51 AM  
...I also thought the guy commenting aobut Ice Age 2's success, that I read in some earlier article, was total crap.. "We didn't expect that it would be anywhere near this big." .. if you didn't expect it, you wouldn't have even released the damn movie. EVERYONE who knew that Ice Age 2 was in the works knew it was going to be flippin HUGE.
 
Assgasket
2006-04-04 5:51:09 AM  
This, from the man responsible for Showgirls and Total Recall?

heh. Yah, right.

Maybe if the movie didn't star some 50-year old crackpot skank who fancies herself as important as the Dalhi Lama...and who's main claim to fame was showing her cooter 14 years ago....
 
DrBear
2006-04-04 6:52:08 AM  
Great line from David Spade on Comedy Central last night comparing the performance of ICE AGE 2 and BASIC INSTINCT 2:

"The perky squirrel did better than the tired beaver."
 
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