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(Gareth-Michael Skarka)   Role-playing game industry fails its saving throw against girls and beer   (gmskarka.livejournal.com) divider line
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2006-03-30 11:02:00 PM  
I think board game sales may have increased.
 
2006-03-30 11:16:43 PM  
Here's one Druid Hafling that will not take this news sitting down! Okay, this druid halfing took that news sittig down BUT I CAST A HEAVy - scrotumular equinox. Feel the light breeze of my FURIE!
 
2006-03-30 11:35:37 PM  
Girls and beer own all in their wake.

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2006-03-31 12:29:26 AM  
Paladins can't use the Helm of Disintegration!
 
2006-03-31 1:45:00 AM  
Sorry, I can't hear the sound of the dice rolling over my own FAP FAP FAPPING...

/nice photo
//I'll be in my bunk...AGAIN...
 
2006-03-31 1:49:30 AM  
So_it_goes: Girls and beer own all in their wake.


Thanks for the picture. Every day should start with an image that contains large beer mugs, jugs and a cute girl (NG hf Ger1).
 
2006-03-31 1:53:19 AM  
Pen and Paper is fun and all, the creativity allowed in it... but in all brutal honesty, it's A LOT easier to just login to an online RPG and have a computer handle the rules. Plus it's far easier to get a bunch of friends together online than dragging em all into one house.
 
2006-03-31 1:53:29 AM  
I put on my robe and wizard hat.

/obscure?
 
2006-03-31 1:55:43 AM  
CheezeAnvil

Bloodninja is hardly obscure.

/Lvl 5 Eroticism
 
2006-03-31 1:56:24 AM  
Sales might be better if the major games coming out weren't completely horrible.

It all started with D&D 3rd Ed. It looked like it was developed by a &$#%!#@ video game engineer. If we want to play video games, we will. So give us something different.

/2nd Edition hardcore
//Wish Deadlands was still in print. That game pwns.
 
2006-03-31 1:56:31 AM  
I didn't do too much gaming in college, but the LARP'ers I knew were the most dedicated, hard-core drinkers around. Though their average drink was the equivalent of about three beers a glass.
 
2006-03-31 1:57:56 AM  
So_it_goes: Girls and beer own all in their wake.

Ah yes, the infamous Frauleins in Dirndls pic. I know it well.

I have always wondered, if those are Spaten mugs could they be drinking Optimator? If so, at least three guys got laid that night. 7.2% in large quantities can be quite the panty peeler.
 
2006-03-31 2:00:38 AM  
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Submitter?
 
2006-03-31 2:04:11 AM  
Well, people stop playing, and then others can't find anyone else to game with... and the next generation is packed with MMORPGs. Who wants to think, when you can... shiat... LEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYY!!!!!
 
2006-03-31 2:05:55 AM  
worst. article. ever.
/dnrtfa
 
2006-03-31 2:06:29 AM  
Ah, I miss 2nd Edition AD&D. All-nighters spent at a cafe with our endless cups of funky coffee, the ashtrays on the table overflowing with cigarette butts, then finally emerging from the cafe... Oh God, what is that horrible burning orb in the sky?
 
2006-03-31 2:07:46 AM  
When Games Workshop decided to switch from metal to plastic, and still double their prices (last I checked, plastic was cheaper and easier to manufacture), I stopped giving them money.
 
2006-03-31 2:11:09 AM  
WTB [Frauleins] in pic PST
 
2006-03-31 2:11:59 AM  
Whenever I hear anything about role playing games, I can't help but think of this now... hilarious.

Fear of Girls

//"we weren't the quarterbacks of the hockey team" - gets me everytime
 
2006-03-31 2:15:38 AM  
Something that the gaming industry does not understand is that they create a luxury item bought by the middle class. People with liesure time and money buy and use their products. Thusly when the buying power of their market is reduced, their sales and profit margin is reduced.
 
2006-03-31 2:16:34 AM  
Tell me something I don't know.
 
2006-03-31 2:17:11 AM  
altrock: //Wish Deadlands was still in print. That game pwns.

Which were you a fan of? I started off playing in Hell on Earth so I'm a big fanboy of the Wasted West. And although the Weird West is cool and all, I likes the toxic sludge soup that is the future.
 
2006-03-31 2:24:48 AM  
ypsifly
I have always wondered, if those are Spaten mugs could they be drinking Optimator?

Dude, that can't be Optimator...light makes it through the steins.
 
2006-03-31 2:25:06 AM  
Gaming sales are going down because there aren't many stores left where you stroll in and buy a book. The lack of these gaming stores also means that n00bs have no place to go to learn how to play the games in question.

/kender lvl 2 sorceress will never die
//kenders make very good weapons, oddly enough
 
2006-03-31 2:26:38 AM  
I blame it on GURPS RIFTS.
 
2006-03-31 2:27:48 AM  
And, say it with me, folks (in tune, if you like): Internet killed the RPG store.

I can buy games online and skip whatever rent-based premium the store builds into its games. And until retail finally croaks as a market force, publishers that don't have the hangup of depending on retail will have a price advantage over those that do.
 
2006-03-31 2:28:30 AM  
C'mon guys let's do this.
LEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYY J-EEENNKINS


/know it's been done but that was almost thereputic
//Abdul give us a number crunch
///at least I have chicken
 
2006-03-31 2:30:50 AM  
SandwichMan: Dude, that can't be Optimator...light makes it through the steins.

You're prolly right, but I can still dream.

Good call. You know your beers. Imagine the mayhem that would ensue if they were drinking Eku 28. Hot girls drinking big mugs of 11%....Imagine....even my ugly mug would have a shot.
 
2006-03-31 2:32:44 AM  
burns1111: altrock: //Wish Deadlands was still in print. That game pwns.

Which were you a fan of? I started off playing in Hell on Earth so I'm a big fanboy of the Wasted West. And although the Weird West is cool and all, I likes the toxic sludge soup that is the future.


Wasted West. Haven't gotten to play Weird West and I'm still bummed that their WWII video game never came out before they went bust. It looked awesome (like Fallout with better graphics and during WWII. How could it not be awesome ?).

/Harrowed Doomsayer: "I nuke myself... and live. Everyone else can die."
 
2006-03-31 2:33:52 AM  
Time to take this thread to a new level:

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/they'll never fail a charisma check
//used to DM regularly for a 3.5 game
 
2006-03-31 2:36:32 AM  
The roleplaying game industry is actually doing quite well. World of Warcraft, Neverwinter Nights, Everquest, Oblivion...

Oh wait, they meant those obsolete pen-and-paper RPG's. I faintly remember playing those in ancient times.
 
2006-03-31 2:36:56 AM  
3RD edition AD&D is for people who don't understand THAC0.
 
2006-03-31 2:38:17 AM  
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Party?

Anyone else on Bahamut server?
 
2006-03-31 2:38:47 AM  
Role-playing game industry fails its saving throw against girls and beer World of Warcraft, Everquest and Star Wars Galaxies.

Fixed it far ya.

/Who needs painted miniatures and d20s when you have broadband.
 
2006-03-31 2:45:53 AM  
Code_Archeologist: Something that the gaming industry does not understand is that they create a luxury item bought by the middle class. People with liesure time and money buy and use their products. Thusly when the buying power of their market is reduced, their sales and profit margin is reduced.

Phhhh... WAY off. There is PLENTY of money out there, the pencil and paper gaming industry just isn't capturing it... You know why? Not because people can't afford it. Because they are spending their money *elsewhere*. Namely video games.

See how much money is being spent on video games in this country every year and then look me in the face and try to tell me that people can't afford a DM guide and Players handbook that they can use for years. BS.

Sadly, d20 games are just not competing... And the average gamer is going to buy a few new games each year - any ONE of which (at $50 - $70) costs about as much or more than a DM guide, Player's handbook and a set of dice. Nevermind the new console they buy once every 2 - 3 years at a few hundred dollars a pop. And don't even get me started on PC gaming expenditures... I spend *hundreds* of dollars each year building new machines to keep them up to speed, and more yet on top of that on the games (and a monthly subscription for WoW on top of THAT too).

It's got ZIPPY to do with people being too poor to buy d20 games, since they are spending the money on competing products in droves.

It's really about the lack of effective marketing, social stigma and steeper learning curve.

Which is too bad... I still play me some D&D fairly regularly, and have a great time doing it. A lot of other people would enjoy it just as much if they gave it a chance.
 
2006-03-31 2:50:01 AM  
I don't know about the industry, but our group switched off of most games in favor of GURPs. This means we buy less books, and the ones we do we get directly from the website, as the local store is filled with games we don't play. We've never had a problem filling our gaming group no matter what system we played.

/A girl who loves Shadowrun, but hates the new system. Rather do it GURPs style.
//Remembers when elf was a class.
 
2006-03-31 2:50:44 AM  
Devil's Advocaat

/Who needs painted miniatures and d20s when you have broadband.

Yes, computers have made imagination unnecessary. I mean, the absolute magic of running countless boring and degrading fetch quests for inept PCs is the true height of RPGing, after all.

I love the computer RPGs, but they are severally limited...the only people who truly prefer them over the pen and paper are either munchkins or friendless.
 
2006-03-31 2:55:40 AM  
Huh. Ive played SR since its first edition and I dont ever recall a race being a class.
 
2006-03-31 2:58:19 AM  
The last group I pen, dice and paper gamed with was half female and we usually drank while gaming. RPGers are not just nerds in their parents basements.
 
2006-03-31 2:59:50 AM  
more beer and girl pictures please..
 
2006-03-31 3:00:35 AM  
JDJoeE

Elf wasn't a class in Shadowrun, but the very first incarnation of Dungeons and Dragons.

My sleepy mind might have formulated that post badly, or you just lost 10 geekpoints on that.
 
2006-03-31 3:02:15 AM  
Code_Archeologist: Something that the gaming industry does not understand is that they create a luxury item bought by the middle class. People with liesure time and money buy and use their products. Thusly when the buying power of their market is reduced, their sales and profit margin is reduced.

I actually came in here to say about the same thing. A lot of my friends have falling out of the gaming scene either because they have to look for jobs, or they've been working a ton more to make things work out. It kind of sucks, I haven't personally been able to LARP in what feels like forever.
 
2006-03-31 3:09:44 AM  
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The author's appearance is exactly as I imagined

 
2006-03-31 3:12:43 AM  
Huzzah!
 
2006-03-31 3:13:23 AM  
Altrocks

I got an ace of spades with your name on it, buddy. Keep 'er up yer sleeve for later.

/d20 deadlands? No Thank You.
//And what the hell was up with the last book? Sucktastic!!
///wasted n' wierd 4 ever.
 
2006-03-31 3:17:31 AM  
DiiccTater: more beer and girl pictures please..

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2006-03-31 3:18:36 AM  
before I forget

Holy SHIAT I have that dragon shirt the fat dude wears o_O I feel less human ;_;

CheezeAnvil

What IS "I put on my robe and wizard hat" FROM? I hear it everywhere o_o
 
2006-03-31 3:18:57 AM  
However, Fark readership is up by 45%, so the world dork ratio has stayed the same.
 
2006-03-31 3:28:57 AM  
burns and alt: Deadlands? Dead? Ha. DEADLANDS IS COMING BACK WITH A SIX GUN BABY.

Check out Great White Games, the successor to Pinnacle, the company that produced Deadlands (scroll down to the 3/7/06 update for more info)

This year, probably in the next few months, They're releasing Deadlands: Reloaded, the core book that advances the plot of The Wierd West, and in the coming year or so (though, at Shane's regular pace, count on it being ready when it's actually ready, rather then anyone's schedual) they'll be a book for the Wasted West and Way-out West.

The game uses the new Savage Tales (the product that, aside from City of Villians and WizKids, is the reason there's been little new Deadland production in the last few years). The new system won the Origins award for best new RPG system, very fast, and rules light, but with some teeth. It seperates out "mooks" from "Wild Cards" (central villians and heroes). It has a lot of deadlands flavor all ready. The new book will bring back fan favorites - Card-based initative, poker chips, but will simply gameplay for magic users and also allow for bigger battles (rules similar to Great Rail Wars' skirmish system were a basis for ST). The general output is that it's faster for things that should be fast, and deeper for things that should be deep.

They'll also have conversion methods and tricks to bring your current posses into the new game, and be able to use devices, magics and powers from Deadlands Classic in the new game.

The website has a few PDFed demo pages of the book, and they are very, very pretty. Deadlands is about to come back bigger then ever, IMHO. So don't dispair! Your not left out, ya just need a bit more patience.

Here's a sample:
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2006-03-31 3:34:23 AM  
Devil's Advocaat: Role-playing game industry fails its saving throw against girls and beer World of Warcraft, Everquest and Star Wars Galaxies.


You lost credibility at the mention of SWG.
 
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