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(Drudge)   Howard Dean checks DayTimer, realizes he's overdue for a provocative and incredibly stupid accusation against the Republican Party   (drudgereport.com) divider line
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kronicfeld
2006-02-09 11:00:35 AM  
Dean: "All we ask is that we not turn into a country like Iran where the President can do anything he wants."

The attack dogs are really struggling if this is the best "provocative and incredibly stupid accusation" they can come up with.
 
SoiledDude
2006-02-09 11:03:30 AM  
Well, I can't say I don't agree with him.

Even if you voted for the shrub, I don't think you would want him to do anything he wants... scary stuff.
 
Ekthesy
2006-02-09 11:05:51 AM  
What part of that statement is incorrect?

Bush is trying to turn the Presidency into a "unitary executive" office where he can do whatever he wants (true)

In Iran, the President can do whatever he wants (true)

Dean hopes the US doesn't turn out like Iran (true)

Dean is the master of irony. Too bad he tells the truth too often to be electable.
 
Captain Tripps
2006-02-09 11:10:17 AM  
yeah, i'm a republican but even I don't see how this is bad. I mean, we say the dems want to turn the country into soviet russia....
 
big_pth
2006-02-09 11:10:34 AM  
Yeah, uh...where is the attacking of the republican party in that there quote? He said he doesn't want the US to turn into Iran. Well, don't the Republicans want the US to not turn into Iran? Cuz I am sure that that would not sit well with the American people.
 
RobbieFal
2006-02-09 11:12:11 AM  
How dare he say that we shouldn't turn our country into a dictatorship!
 
Uncle Eazy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2006-02-09 11:13:21 AM  
Ekthesy: In Iran, the President can do whatever he wants (true)

Actually, the President in Iran can't do whatever he wants. The Supreme Leader (one of the Mullahs) has ultimate power.

But Dean's point is well taken.
 
AuntofDogface
2006-02-09 11:15:13 AM  
Man, they are really reaching with this one. The truth hurts, huh?

/sees nothing wrong with what Dean said.
 
CineKal
2006-02-09 11:15:14 AM  
submitter obviously doesn't follow politics or current events.
 
texas_tornado
2006-02-09 11:19:06 AM  
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Tr0mBoNe [TotalFark]
2006-02-09 11:19:09 AM  
does it seem that Drudge is just a guy sitting with his laptop infront of about 12 TV's watching all possible news and reporting it as soon as it comes out?

Sometimes funny, mostly annoying, but mostly harmless.
 
alcoholic_entropy
2006-02-09 11:19:17 AM  
CineKal: submitter obviously doesn't follow politics or current events.

What are you talking about? I listen to Rush everyday.

/not submitter
 
Action Replay Nick
2006-02-09 11:19:23 AM  
Howard Dean needs to learn that George Bush IS America and if he wants the executive branch to have unlimited power, it's every citizen's duty to support him because he is the PRESIDENT and Leader of the Free World.
 
mediaho
2006-02-09 11:21:01 AM  
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Maxwell_Demon
2006-02-09 11:21:12 AM  
I fail to see why this is as aggregious as Chris Matthews saying that Democrats are like Al Qaeda...

Tit for tat.

It's all a bunch of shiat anyway.
 
RobbieFal
2006-02-09 11:22:15 AM  
does it seem that Drudge is just a guy sitting with his laptop infront of about 12 TV's watching all possible news and reporting it as soon as it comes out?

Drudge also wears a hat
 
KyngNothing
2006-02-09 11:22:31 AM  
So submitter would like to be in a country where the supreme leader can do whatever they (who am I kidding, he) can do whatever he wants?
 
Teekno
2006-02-09 11:22:55 AM  
Ekthesy: What part of that statement is incorrect?

Well, it doesn't have to be incorrect to be provocative and/or stupid.

/nts
 
CineKal
2006-02-09 11:23:54 AM  
What are you talking about? I listen to Rush everyday.

*giggle*
 
kronicfeld
2006-02-09 11:28:45 AM  
Well, it doesn't have to be incorrect to be provocative and/or stupid.

To be deemed "incredibly stupid" and garner a dumbass tag and a Drudge newsflash, yeah, I would have to say that being incorrect would be a prerequisite.
 
Ekthesy
2006-02-09 11:28:54 AM  
Teekno: Well, it doesn't have to be incorrect to be provocative and/or stupid.

It's provocative, as well it should be, but since when is it stupid to call out the President for being a power whore?
 
milk_plus
2006-02-09 11:31:11 AM  
So the US president can now:
order wiretaps of anyone he likes without permission
order anyone tortured at his whim
hide his activities from congress and judges until or if he sees fit to share them

I don't see where Dean is that far off the mark. I guess the Iranian president can explicitly order Iranian citizens killed but I'm thinking that Gonzales has, will, or would make that claim with regards to the president and US citizens.
 
mediaho
2006-02-09 11:35:24 AM  
milk_plus: So the US president can now:

Let's not forget:
Detain anyone without charge or representation for indefinite periods
 
mutilato
2006-02-09 11:35:45 AM  
I feel like I can ask this because i have owned up to every thread i have ever submitted here. Who is this submitter and what does he imagine is so stupid about this statement?
 
nifta
2006-02-09 11:36:20 AM  
is this all republicans have to fight back with these days?

farking pathetic.
 
mutilato
2006-02-09 11:43:46 AM  
As an aside, the anonymity of headline posters like this replicates a common tactic used by Fox News and other rightwing media sources, when they begin an asserion with "people have said that...". They essentially place a value judgement out into the popular consciousness with no attendant explanation or connection to reality. People without the time to examine the issue walk away thinking "I guess Howard Dean likes to say provocative and stupid things". Then it's said a few more times about other things and before long, there is an unfounded meme in the general concensus. Then some right wing android can walk on here and laugh at some assertion that Dean has been right consistently (he has been) and not feel as though he needs more than a chuckle to make his point.

And we let them get away with it. The next time someone on Fox asserts that "people have said", I wish I could interrupt them and ask "who people- what people?"
 
brap [TotalFark]
2006-02-09 11:43:53 AM  
Today's top story. Terse.

More at 10 o'clock.
 
Teekno
2006-02-09 11:45:33 AM  
mutilato: a common tactic used by Fox News and other rightwing media sources, when they begin an asserion with "people have said that...".

It's called a blind quote, and it is by no means the exclusive domain of the right. It's pretty widely used across the board.
 
mutilato
2006-02-09 11:48:12 AM  
Teekno: It's called a blind quote, and it is by no means the exclusive domain of the right. It's pretty widely used across the board.

I know what it's called. can you name a non-right wing leaning news source that uses this tactic?
 
Teekno
2006-02-09 11:50:10 AM  
mutilato: I know what it's called. can you name a non-right wing leaning news source that uses this tactic?

Every political talk show ever produced, for starters. And hey, that's all that the commentary on Fox News is -- talk radio with movin' pictures.
 
KyngNothing
2006-02-09 11:52:18 AM  
mutilato: As an aside, the anonymity of headline posters like this replicates a common tactic used by Fox News and other rightwing media sources, when they begin an asserion with "people have said that...".

"You know, some people have said we should practice isolationism..."

Strawman, great way to argue against points no one is even presenting...
 
GWLush
2006-02-09 11:53:02 AM  
NEWSFLASH

Howard Dean doesn't want America to turn into Iran.

What a batshiat insane crazy man.


YAAARRRRGGGHHH!
 
Cyberluddite [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2006-02-09 11:54:18 AM  
2006-02-09 11:28:54 AM Ekthesy
It's provocative, as well it should be, but since when is it stupid to call out the President for being a power whore?

In the minds of the members of the Dubya Ass-Licking Cult™, it's stupid to call out this president for anything he might do, up to and including if he were to butt-rape a crippled, retarded nun on live TV, soak her in gasoline and set her on fire, and then piss on the ashes.
 
Netsloth
2006-02-09 11:55:34 AM  
Maxwell_Demon: Chris Matthews saying that Democrats are like Al Qaeda...


Oh, did it turn out that this isn't true?

I don't watch much TV.
 
ral315
2006-02-09 11:57:44 AM  
Somebody post the Drudge siren animated .gif.
 
Fark It
2006-02-09 11:57:45 AM  
"All we ask is that we not turn into a country like Iran where the President can do anything he wants."

Feh. What a dirty liberal. He must hate America.
 
flavor of the month
2006-02-09 11:58:47 AM  
what you have to understand about the Dean smear merchants is that they are incredibly frustrated with him right now. his chairmanship was supposed to be a disaster for the DNC, but it turned out that Dean is probably the best fundraiser in modern american politics AND democrats won every election of substance in 2005.
 
Action Replay Nick
2006-02-09 11:59:05 AM  
I wonder if anyone in this thread will actually disagree with Howard Dean and point out some of the ways we should aspire to be more like Iran?
 
jessica_the_attentionwhore
2006-02-09 11:59:24 AM  

Dean: "All we ask is that we not turn into a country like Iran where the President can do anything he wants."

What's so dumb about that? What evidence has anyone seen where Bush isn't doing anything he wants.
 
Mr. Clarence Butterworth
2006-02-09 11:59:33 AM  
Wow, Drudge distorts, in headline and the first sentence, even though Dean did not say that.

{"All we ask is that we not turn into a country like Iran where the President can do anything he wants." }


The Right Wing propaganda machine and how it distorts the truth.
 
23 Enigma
2006-02-09 11:59:39 AM  
Bush is already doing anything he wants.

He's just trying to make it legal.
 
Skyshadow
2006-02-09 12:00:29 PM  
That's silly -- we're not like Iran.

We elected our theocracy, thank you very much.
 
d_money
2006-02-09 12:00:36 PM  
Considering what is actually happening and Bush's own words, Dean's statement is valid.
 
jessica_the_attentionwhore
2006-02-09 12:00:42 PM  
GWLush,

NEWSFLASH

Howard Dean doesn't want America to turn into Iran.

What a batshiat insane crazy man.


YAAARRRRGGGHHH!

But Bush does.
 
IdBeCrazyIf
2006-02-09 12:00:52 PM  
I hate Bush and his entire administration with every fibre of my being....

...yet none of that changes the fact that Howard Dean is a pharking moran
 
idioteque
2006-02-09 12:01:57 PM  
Apparently the submitter likes warrentless wiretaps.
 
Mr. Clarence Butterworth
2006-02-09 12:01:59 PM  
I gotta go see what Ken "diaperboy" Mehlmen of the RNC has to say about this.
 
H31N0US
2006-02-09 12:02:09 PM  
I thought any accusation against the Ruling Caste Republican Party was, by definition, incredibly stupid?

/used to be republican.
 
Crown Of Negativity
2006-02-09 12:02:16 PM  
[image from 66.73.22.247 too old to be available]

"Drudge's siren animation is hypnotic and causes me to report the news without wearing pants. More at 11."
 
Euell Gibbons
2006-02-09 12:02:35 PM  
Being in the party out of power must really suck.
 
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