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(Some Guy)   Comic-book creator Neil Gaiman says, "It's strange when people get my characters tattooed on them"   (blog.92y.org) divider line
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Jmast7
2006-01-05 6:19:00 PM  
I love the 92nd St. Y - heard Stephen King talk there a year or two ago. Great facility...
 
Occams_Electric_Razor
2006-01-05 6:29:33 PM  
Personally, I'd like for him to do more stories about Destruction. Other than Death, he was the most interesting character in the whole series and the background given as to why he packed up and walked away always seemed a bit rushed.

There was the one-off story in the hardcover collection from last year or the year before, but he spent most of it sitting at a table staring off into space.
 
Jaromayo
2006-01-05 6:29:37 PM  
I've never been one to biatch about not getting greenlit, or doubt the all-knowing admins and mods, or anything like that. I think they do a pretty swell job, but this got greenlit? Really?
 
sp00nz
2006-01-05 7:01:24 PM  
Oh well. The guy's a hack anyways.
 
woodpecker from mars
2006-01-05 7:13:23 PM  
sp00nz: Oh well. The guy's a hack anyways.


*blink*
 
The Ghost Of Bill Hicks
2006-01-05 7:20:37 PM  
heh yes, please explain how in what possible way you would consider a guy like Gaiman a hack

never read anything of his I didnt like, and sandman has to be considered one of the all time best commentaries on the subject of writing ever turned out.

not to mention the guy is super down to earth, even though hes got offers comin out the ass

/currently reading anasasi boys and <3'ing it bigtime
 
SilentStrider
2006-01-05 7:25:12 PM  
geez, as if i didn't need affirmation for the gaiman kick i've been on lately.

/just read american gods, 1602, and is reading good omens.
//is Anansi Boys any good?
 
SilentStrider
2006-01-05 7:26:34 PM  
The Ghost Of Bill Hicks: never read anything of his I didnt like,

i'll admit, i didn't care for Sandman. It just didn't do anything for me. Its obviously written with care and skill, but it just did nothing for me. His novels on the other hand...

As for comics, I prefer Garth Ennis's work to Gaiman's. Let me know when someone gets Jesse Custer tattooed on their arm.
 
woodpecker from mars
2006-01-05 7:27:16 PM  
SilentStrider: //is Anansi Boys any good?

I LOVED it. It was light and funny and intriguing and so well written.
 
woodpecker from mars
2006-01-05 7:28:42 PM  
SilentStrider: Let me know when someone gets Jesse Custer tattooed on their arm.

It's not like the thought never crossed my mind. Jesse on one shoulder, Tulip on the other.

Preacher is one of the greatest stories ever put down on paper.
 
SilentStrider
2006-01-05 7:30:02 PM  
woodpecker from mars: I LOVED it. It was light and funny and intriguing and so well written.

big thing i've been wondering- is it any relation to American Gods? Reason I'm asking is there was the character Anansi from that book, and i'm wondering if its the same character, or just one with the same name (based on the same God)
 
SilentStrider
2006-01-05 7:35:27 PM  
woodpecker from mars: It's not like the thought never crossed my mind. Jesse on one shoulder, Tulip on the other.

well, i already have one comic tattoo (green lantern symbol on my leg), but if i were going to get another, it'd probably be a marvel symbol, to balance out the DC. Either the X-Men symbol, the Punisher's skull, or an image of the Punisher from the beginning of Ennis's run on The Punisher (ie: art by Steve Dillon).
 
woodpecker from mars
2006-01-05 7:39:56 PM  
SilentStrider: big thing i've been wondering- is it any relation to American Gods?

Yes, it is.
 
crunch-o-matic
2006-01-05 7:52:58 PM  
Oh well. The guy's a hack anyways.

No doubt you came to that conclusion because of your extensive knowledge of comics as literature...and your background in literary criticism.

Care to elaborate?
 
SilentStrider
2006-01-05 8:03:19 PM  
crunch-o-matic: Care to elaborate?

he probably doesn't, considering he's just probably trolling and all.
Probably thinks Alan Moore is the guy who played James Bond.
 
SilentStrider
2006-01-05 8:05:51 PM  
stingrza: I prefer to read the more ethereal, weighty stuff.

i gotta admit, i just started reading Good Omens, which he did with Terry Pratchett, and it has be dying with laughter. A couple of the reviews compared it to Douglas Adams, and I see no reason to contradict it.
 
Blues_X
2006-01-05 8:34:44 PM  
woodpecker from mars: Preacher is one of the greatest stories ever put down on paper.

Says you, arseface!

/just read Preacher, b/c of your recommendation if I remember correctly
//liked it lots
 
Sgt Otter
2006-01-05 8:44:28 PM  
elchip: So one person gets a tattoo of Odin, and Neil Gaiman lets it go to his head, huh...

Half the goth girls I run into have [Neil's version of] Death tattoo'ed on them.
 
SilentStrider
2006-01-05 8:55:37 PM  
Blues_X: //liked it lots

if you like that, i suggest checking out Ennis's run on Hellblazer and the Punisher.
 
sp00nz
2006-01-05 10:08:47 PM  
he probably doesn't, considering he's just probably trolling and all.
Probably thinks Alan Moore is the guy who played James Bond.

Oy.

I know its bad and all to not like the writing that everyone else does but whatever. I can't stand anything he writes. It's just uninteresting. Damn me.
 
GavinTheAlmighty
2006-01-05 10:14:51 PM  
I just heard about him this past September, a bunch of people in my program are obsessed with him.

Anybody here see Mirrormask?
 
mehaul5013
2006-01-05 10:17:46 PM  
Neil Gaiman will go down as one of the best writers of this time period. His work is some of the best stuff out there. From his sandman graphics, his childrens books and his novels no one can compare in my opinion.

/stardust is as classic as they come.
 
Mugato [TotalFark]
2006-01-05 10:18:59 PM  
Neil Gaiman created comic books, submitter? He and Al Gore must be loaded with royalties.
 
watraveller
2006-01-05 10:19:26 PM  
YAY a Neil Gaiman post!!

good omens>stardust>anansi boys>neverwhere>american gods

/but Sandman is >>
 
clownpenis.fart
2006-01-05 10:20:23 PM  
Gaiman characters? Pfft... It's all about

[image from toychest.diamondcomics.com too old to be available]
 
Koofic
2006-01-05 10:20:29 PM  
Neverwhere is my favorite Gaiman work. Currently re-reading Sandman, which i HIGHLY reccomend to anyone who hasn't read it. If i had a god, Gaiman would be in the running for the title.
 
trad16
2006-01-05 10:21:30 PM  
Too bad the submitter didn't read the next sentence. Why does shiate like this get greenlighted?

"Now the idea of people with tattoos of my work doesnt make me stop or blink. When people ask me to sign [their tattoos] and the next time theyre tattooed [..] well, they [have] the signature tattooed"
 
ayavner
2006-01-05 10:24:09 PM  
Read "Good Omens" probably well over 20 times, but then I am a huge Terry Pratchett fan. Am interested to know from any Neil Gaiman readers where would be a good place to start? Looks like Koofic recommends Sandman, and I have heard American Gods is good.

What say ye?
 
Nim
2006-01-05 10:26:25 PM  
SilentStrider [TotalFark]

As for comics, I prefer Garth Ennis's work to Gaiman's. Let me know when someone gets Jesse Custer tattooed on their arm.

I'm reading both right now, and damn, if Dillon drew for Sandman, I could die happy. The art in Sandman just doesn't do it for me.
 
beer4breakfast
2006-01-05 10:28:33 PM  
I just bought 'Good Omens' on a recommendation. Anybody else have any others since I have yet to read any other Gaiman stuff?

Kind of on topic...

Was at book store years ago and met this guy in the Fantasy section. Looking at what Weiss and Hickman have been writing since I was a big Dragonlance fan when I was a kid. Mention it to this guy and what does he do? Pulls up his sleeve and shows me a tattoo of Raistlen in black robes.
 
No Such Agency
2006-01-05 10:28:38 PM  
ayavner: "American Gods", simply because it is a fat $10 paperback and thus a cheap but substantial start :D

sp00nz: I know its bad and all to not like the writing that everyone else does but whatever. I can't stand anything he writes. It's just uninteresting. Damn me.

A legitimate opinion. You should have said that to begin with, instead of saying "OMG hes a hack lol"
 
Flarn
2006-01-05 10:29:10 PM  
ayavner: What say ye?

Well, Sandman is a comic, most of his other stuff is novels. If you like comics, start there with the graphic novels. If not, I would say Stardust, Neverwhere or American Gods. They are all incredibly different types of stories, yet still have some things in commons. Read the descriptions and pick which one sounds most intriguing to you. You really can't go wrong and will probably end up reading them all anyway. If you go with Sandman, don't forget to pick up Endless Nights after your done. I love all those stories, especially the one about the suns.

That having been said, I just got done reading 1602. As a former comic junkie, this was awesome. I can't describe why but, for some reason, I wasn't impressed with the first 20 pages or so. Then, something clicked and I loved the whole thing, even the re-reading it.
 
pentex
2006-01-05 10:29:52 PM  
I'm a lapsed catholic, but oddly enough, I can't stop reading or watching things about the church. The story "Murder Mysteries" has to top my list of the most original and creative stories on the topic that I've ever encountered.
Coraline kept killing my suspension of disbelief, but it was good.
Neverwhere was great
American Gods...meh
 
WhackingDay
2006-01-05 10:30:09 PM  
Ennis is good, but criminy, is there a project he turns down?
 
ProdigalSigh [OhFark]
2006-01-05 10:30:37 PM  
ayavner

Start with Stardust
 
ComradeTim
2006-01-05 10:32:04 PM  
clownpenis.fart - Mark Waid's run on Flash is genius but Anansi Boys is one of the funniest and most original books I've read in a long time.
 
rite
2006-01-05 10:32:07 PM  
Interesting watraveller, I'd go

Good Omens > Neverwhere > American Gods > Stardust. Not that I don't like Stardust, I recall loving it, but honestly, I hardly remember anything about it, while American Gods, which I read just as long ago, left much more of a mark on me.

Admittedly, I need to read more, I got Anansi Boys for Xmas and it's up next on my book list after I finish Kavalier and Clay.

And I haven't read Sandman (don't shoot me!). I'm not averse to it, I've just never done the graphic novel thing before. Just a general question: is it recommended that the Sandman books be read in order?
 
LawrencePerson
2006-01-05 10:32:44 PM  
The Ghost Of Bill Hicks>

I wonder if I'm the only person on this thread that both knows Neil Gaiman and knew Bill Hicks.

/Former Stand-up Comedian
//Current Science Fiction Writer
///Blatant excuse to flack stuff Neil was kind enough to sign for me the last time he came around here.
 
Koofic
2006-01-05 10:33:22 PM  
If you're the graphic novel type, start with Sandman. If you perfer novels, I reccomend American Gods. If you're a TV person, you can get Neverwhere on DVD from A&E (and it's super good, The Marquis is really quite funny)

\imho
 
upright [TotalFark]
2006-01-05 10:34:41 PM  
Preacher got old fast, and went on twenty issues too long. Pretty much like Ennis' career -- started strong, is dying slowly in a wallow of repetitive war blech.
 
watraveller
2006-01-05 10:39:29 PM  
is it recommended that the Sandman books be read in order?

Very much yes, rite. But it might also be interesting not to.

Anansi Boys is terrific - it's a semi-sequel to American Gods, but I enjoyed it much more.
 
LawrencePerson
2006-01-05 10:39:56 PM  
Since someone asked if anyone had seen MirrorMask:

Yes, I have.
 
trad16
2006-01-05 10:40:31 PM  
LawrencePerson: I wonder if I'm the only person on this thread that both knows Neil Gaiman and knew Bill Hicks.

I don't know, but I do know that you're the only person on this thread that wrote a sentence that made my head hurt.

Next time you should tell Neil to pay cash.
 
Tyklfe
2006-01-05 10:43:18 PM  
SilentStrider: i gotta admit, i just started reading Good Omens, which he did with Terry Pratchett, and it has be dying with laughter. A couple of the reviews compared it to Douglas Adams, and I see no reason to contradict it.


I was sitting here trying to figure out how I knew his name - thanks for the memory jog.

BTW - Good Omens is one of the most intensly funny books I've ever read. Most certainly compareable with Adams.
 
blazemongr
2006-01-05 10:43:53 PM  
GavinTheAlmighty: Saw Mirrormask in its second week after much effort to get to downtown Chicago from the suburbs. It was good, but not great -- although to be fair, I couldn't tell if it was because McKean's creations were so hard to decipher at 30fps, or because he is relatively inexperienced as a director, or just because they had a mere $4 million budgeted to create it.

The way I see it, it was Gaiman's and McKean's chance to prove they could make a decent movie before they were given more money for anything else. Whether they will or not isn't something I know.
 
Tillmaster
2006-01-05 10:44:15 PM  
I'm a Pratchett fan, too. Thoroughly enjoyed Good Omens, which is where I came across Gaiman.
Neverwhere was great - book and DVD, American Gods was excellent.
Haven't tried the rest, but only because I haven't got round to it.
 
deathbunny32
2006-01-05 10:44:24 PM  
I don't like his style too well, and he has a tendency to get boring, stuffy or stupid, but most of his stories are pretty good, albeit before the stupid sets in. Although, a lot of writers manage to dwelve into some stupid shiat, but they are usually able to salvage some interesting stuff out of it.

/Those volume sandman books that came out recently = LAME
// 1602 = Pretty damn stupid concept to start with, but was pretty good aside from the boring parts.
/// Sandman = turns stupid at certain times, such as when that stripper danced all crazy and that one guy's head blew up, and that other guy started jizzing blood. Or the story about the cats and how they dream evil, evil thoughts.
 
skuldsbugs
2006-01-05 10:48:59 PM  
rite

Yes, definitely read the Sandman comics in order.

Got Anansi Boys for xmas, too. I'm about halfway through it right now and love it.
 
shrapnil77
2006-01-05 10:49:47 PM  
I read 1602 and Good Omens, and I have to say the ladder was vastly superior. You could see Pratchett and Gaiman playing Nanny Ogg and Granny Weatherwax- Gaiman got all the big scenes while Pratchett had the job of holding the story together.

1602, while engaging, suffered from a fundamental flaw: it confused the backdrop of the story with the story itself. So they're in 1602. That's nice. What happens? We couldn't even figure out who the "old man" was until 9/10ths of the way through the story.
 
Crocodile
2006-01-05 10:50:16 PM  
HELP ME, I'VE GOT GEEK AND DORK ALL OVER ME!
 
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