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(ABC News)   Subway tunnel workers uncover fortification gun emplacement from NY's pre-Revolutionary War era; are immediately told by NY ghosts to "go fark ye selves"   ( divider line
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2005-12-08 09:28:42 AM  
There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.
2005-12-08 09:28:44 AM  
Neat headline
2005-12-08 09:29:26 AM  
2005-12-08 09:29:55 AM  
And then the CHUDS came after them.
2005-12-08 09:33:00 AM  
Why is this a surprise...I knew it was there
2005-12-08 09:34:17 AM  
Rev. Skarkroe

Cannibalistic Humaniod Underground Dutch Settlers?
That's funny stuff.
2005-12-08 09:34:22 AM  
That's actually kinda cool.
2005-12-08 09:34:57 AM  
It should be no surprise. Its well documented that the NYC subway system was well protected against British attack.
2005-12-08 09:35:44 AM  
That's nothing. You should read what Joseph Smith found upstate.
2005-12-08 09:36:04 AM  
What am I missing...?

Mention of ghosts in the article...? Where to?

Was all ready to come barging in talking about "Who you gonna' call" and "all the negative emotions are forming into this sludge" and "Ray, when someone asks you if you are a God, you say YES" but now I can't because I don't see any mention of ghosts anywhere and I'm really ticked off, dag nabbit.
2005-12-08 09:36:05 AM  
"New York ghosts"... bwahahaha!
2005-12-08 09:36:56 AM  
2005-12-08 09:49:52 AM  
Is there any pinkish ecto plasma oozing out of the walls?
2005-12-08 09:50:37 AM  
Would it kill them to include pics with the article? Dinosaur media suck at the internets.

/wonders what shape a halfpenny is
2005-12-08 09:50:45 AM  
OK, now I don't want to sound like a certain cliche, but I actually work for Schiavone, the company that is doing the construction; I'm actually at work right now and there is going to be a conference about it today. What are my feelings about it? It's a goddamn pile of stones. Some people who want it removed and reconstructed, but what they don't realize is that such a course of action would hold up the project for at least a month. What does that mean? A minimun of one million dollars. Basically, this has the potential to kill the project. That means, because of this old "wall" (it looks more like a pattio or foundation) will cost not only the million plus to remove it, but also we will have to give up our contract and another company will have to come in. That means more hold ups and more money. So, a realistic estimate, is that this will cost 1.5 million and hold up the project for a year. A project that already inconveniences most of lower Manhattan. It's there, and it's historic, but it has to go. It just isn't worth the cost and the archaologist that found it are wacking off to the fact that they found something.So they'll say any thing to cause this huge delay because it doesn't affect them, it will only affect most of Manhattan and the tax payer.
2005-12-08 09:54:21 AM  
Me fail english. Is there any chance we can get English headlines on fark?
2005-12-08 09:58:27 AM  
George Washington Christ: OK, now I don't want to sound like a certain cliche, but I actually work for Schiavone, the company that is doing the construction;

Just curious, what are you doing down there? I know they've been working on the 4,5,6 line for most of the summer and fall (therefore causing the trains to craaaaaaaawl, making me late), is it part of that?
2005-12-08 10:02:17 AM  

I'm an intern there, so I do a decent chunk of everything. And we're installing a new station where Peter Minuit plaza is/used to be. So, we're working around the 4-5 and 1-9 lines, the new tunnel to the station is actually going underneith those lines, so it's pretty cool. So, yeah, that was probably us.
2005-12-08 10:02:41 AM  
George Washington Christ: I actually work for Schiavone, the company that is doing the construction

You forgot the part that goes "So I'm getting a kick out of most of these replies". That's my favorite.
2005-12-08 10:02:44 AM  
Maybe the archaeologist could be persuaded to compromise. Treat it like a crime scene: spend a day or two, take lots of photos, grab a few samples and put them in bags, then leave and let the dynamite crew take care of it.
2005-12-08 10:08:24 AM  
Anyone here read "Cabinet of Curiosities"? Anytime I hear of an excavation in NY that "reveals" something, I get the willies now....
2005-12-08 10:10:25 AM  
BarsAndTone: Anytime I hear of an excavation in NY that "reveals" something, I get the willies now....

Not me. I get the heebie jeebies.
2005-12-08 10:10:35 AM  
I'm with GWC. It's a pile of rocks. You can't swing a dead cat in the NE without hitting some colonial artifact. Big deal.

And of course: if this was anywhere but NYC it would not be newsworthy.

/obligitory, with a slash.
2005-12-08 10:15:23 AM  
H31N0US: And of course: if this was anywhere but NYC it would not be newsworthy.

Of course, if it were anywhere not on the eastern seaboard it would be news, given that the revolution wasn't fought anywhere else.

I think we should do everything we can to preserve this.
2005-12-08 10:23:52 AM  
If they can find a way to work around it, great. If not, the subway is more important.

We need to be able to connect to our history, but not at the expense of our present and future. It's one thing to revere our past, it's quite another to get mired in it.
2005-12-08 10:27:25 AM  

I get the heebie jeebies.


You and Jesse Jackson both.......sings/ new york is hy...

Behave yourself!
2005-12-08 10:31:40 AM  
Oh, just take a bunch of pictures and measurements and a couple of bucketfuls of dirt and get on with it.
2005-12-08 10:33:24 AM  
Is there a law against putting pretty pictures in stories on the internats?
2005-12-08 11:03:13 AM  
Winston Zedimore unavaliable for comment?
2005-12-08 11:40:53 AM  
Actually, shouldn't that have been "Go Fark ye felvef"?

2005-12-08 01:07:47 PM  
did one of the subway workers get hit by a train that derailes in the 20s?
2005-12-08 01:09:57 PM  
It appears to be part of a gun emplacement connected to one of several forts, dating from the early 17th century...
Samples of the stone and crumbled mortar were taken for study by archaeologists of the city's Landmarks Preservation Commission. Other items found at the site were pipe stems and a British halfpenny coin bearing the likeness of King George II and dated 1744, a parks department spokesman said.

Okay, I'm not saying they're wrong, I just want more evidence about the "17th century" part, as opposed to the 18th century of George II (reigned 1727-1760)).
Generally, this story is very cool.
2005-12-08 01:15:04 PM  
> get ye flask

Ye cannot get ye flask!
2005-12-08 01:18:27 PM  
No Catchy Nickname

The gun emplacement is from the 17th century, not the halfpenny.
2005-12-08 01:49:24 PM  
Why not move it to a museum?

Seriously, take the thing apart and reassemble it in a Colonial Era or Revolutionary War museum somewhere. The artifacts get saved and the construction can keep going.

Everybody wins.
2005-12-08 02:18:35 PM  
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unavailable for comment

/seriously, am I the only one that thought of this?
2005-12-08 02:53:22 PM  
BarsAndTone, "Cabinet of the Curiosities" is a truely well written book. Twists, scares, the best Good guys, a memory mind meld with the past that brings 'old' NY to life more than any Gangs of NY movie did.

'Battery Park' find is kinda neat. But, let the men finish their work.
2005-12-08 11:02:03 PM  

Heere at the Wall?
2005-12-08 11:31:36 PM  
Did they find the Amontillado?
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