Skip to content
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(CNN)   Harry Reid wants Bush to fire Rove; would also like to magically regain the Senate majority, a simple solution to Iraq, to be 20 years younger, and free cookies   (cnn.com) divider line
    More: Unlikely  
•       •       •

3766 clicks; posted to Main » and Politics » on 31 Oct 2005 at 12:21 PM (15 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



704 Comments     (+0 »)


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2005-10-31 9:43:40 AM  
funnay.
 
2005-10-31 9:44:29 AM  
Who doesn't want free cookies?
 
2005-10-31 9:46:38 AM  
Indeed, free cookies kick ass.
 
2005-10-31 9:47:19 AM  
Harry Reid also wants to be President someday. WATCH OUT! Signed: a Nevada Farker
 
2005-10-31 9:48:17 AM  
Holy crap, a US Senator that wants to be president.
 
2005-10-31 9:49:05 AM  
would also like to... free cookies

Free them from what? The tyranny of the package?
 
2005-10-31 9:49:21 AM  
kidakita: WATCH OUT!


What, is he planning a surprise attack? Generally we get about 18 months notice about these things.
 
2005-10-31 9:51:46 AM  
"Everyone knows Karl Rove is involved," Reid said. "If the president is a man of his word, Rove should be history."

Why does Patrick Fitzgerald hate America??
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-10-31 9:51:53 AM  
There were free cookies at work last week. They were good.
 
2005-10-31 9:52:47 AM  
Generation_D:
Holy crap, a US Senator that wants to be president

I know! It's quaint isn't it?

It's been 45 years since the last time that happened.
 
2005-10-31 9:53:16 AM  
the_gospel_of_thomas: Why does Patrick Fitzgerald hate America??

Why did Bush originally say he would fire anyone involved in the leak, and then say he would only fire anyone found guilty of a crime?

Reid is only holding Bush to his promise. Doesn't Bush want to keep his promises?
 
2005-10-31 9:57:00 AM  
Edsel: Why did Bush originally say he would fire anyone involved in the leak, and then say he would only fire anyone found guilty of a crime?


Neither of which has happened.

Shall we review this again?

Plame was not "covert". Mentioning her name was not a crime.
Who has been found guilty?
 
2005-10-31 9:58:28 AM  
they do have free cookies in the Senate. at the votes and during speeches. i mean, how else would they get people to show up?
 
2005-10-31 10:00:34 AM  
Dancin_In_Anson: Plame was not "covert". Mentioning her name was not a crime.

Debatable, but that's not my point here.


Neither of which has happened.

I beg to differ. It's clear that Rove discussed Plame with reporters, and apparently is the one who revealed her name to Novak. Bush had initially promised to fire anyone who had been involved in discussing the leak with reporters. Once it became known that Novak was involved, he changed his mind and said he would only fire anyone found guilty of a crime.

Why didn't he keep his promise?
 
2005-10-31 10:02:25 AM  
Free Cookies? Now they've gone too far!!!
 
2005-10-31 10:03:28 AM  
Edsel: Debatable


Not. In. The. Least.

I beg to differ

There was no "leak"...
 
2005-10-31 10:05:03 AM  
Dancin_In_Anson: There was no "leak"...


You should probably talk to the CIA and the Department of Justice and tell them that they've wasted an awful lot of time, then.
 
2005-10-31 10:06:11 AM  
I'm just very amused that the indictment states outright that Plame put her husband up for the Niger trip, something the left has been vigorously denying.

It also does not state she was covert. It does mention that CIA employment is "classified" but so's your SSN (Privacy Act classification, specifically). A real covert non-operational cover agent would have her identity under Top Secret/Special Compartmentalized Information protection, with a very small and specific codeworded list of those with need to know.
 
2005-10-31 10:06:23 AM  
Edsel: You should probably talk to the CIA and the Department of Justice and tell them that they've wasted an awful lot of time, then.


I think this was made quite obvious on Friday.
 
2005-10-31 10:06:30 AM  
What, no naked pics of Bea Arthur or a football helmet full of cottage cheese?
 
2005-10-31 10:06:34 AM  
Dancin_In_Anson: Not. In. The. Least.

Periods. Make. My. Point. Emphatic. As. Does. Capitalization.
 
2005-10-31 10:06:38 AM  
If I don't get my free cookies, I'm going to have to kick some ass
 
2005-10-31 10:07:23 AM  
Bush promised to fire anyone who was "indited" not "involved." Sooter resigned, so Bush didn't have to fire him. You've mixed up your "i" words again.
 
2005-10-31 10:08:18 AM  
Silly man. You can't just re-neg on a contract with Satan. Does he expect Bush to just say "Mr. Satan, please take back your demon-in-human-form Karl Rove and please give me my soul back?" It just doesn't work like that.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-10-31 10:09:13 AM  
You should probably talk to the CIA and the Department of Justice and tell them that they've wasted an awful lot of time, then.

Our government is not very receptive to accusations of waste.

But just in case:

CIA, DOJ: You're wasting time and money.
 
2005-10-31 10:11:22 AM  
Dancin_In_Anson: Edsel: You should probably talk to the CIA and the Department of Justice and tell them that they've wasted an awful lot of time, then.

I think this was made quite obvious on Friday.


*sniff* Smells like Republican Desperation, this does.
 
2005-10-31 10:12:10 AM  
Edsel

It does appear as if the CIA is wasting everyone's time. Plame recommended her husband for the Niger trip, of which the CIA only expected an oral report from, then they allowed him to publish a distorted variation of his report in the New York Times. Added to the growing pile of CIA failures and the corresponding efforts by them to conceal or distort others successes, and you have a picture of a thoroughly discredited and mismanaged agency.

Seems they're letting the cowboys run the farm.
 
2005-10-31 10:15:28 AM  
Occams_Electric_Razor

*sniff* Smells like Republican Desperation, this does.

You, sir, truely have the nose of a bloodhound.

/too bad strapping it to your own nose hasn't improved your sense of smell
 
2005-10-31 10:15:56 AM  
At least the Democrats have abandoned their pursuit of the magical space unicorns and have moved on to smaller, more realistic goals (cookies!).
 
2005-10-31 10:16:23 AM  
Boojum2k: Seems they're letting the cowboys run the farm.

...so says the defender of the folks who set up the Office of Special Plans and the White House Iraq Group, the authors of our stunning successes in Iraq.
 
2005-10-31 10:17:38 AM  
Heh. You guys crack me up. The love for crooked politicians is just heartwarming.
 
2005-10-31 10:18:14 AM  
LOL Hey Dancin_In_Anson, the_gospel_of_thomas, Action Replay Nick and ZAZ,

Where were you savings-minded folks when the Ken Starr was blowing $50 million investigating who was blowing President Clinton?

Funny how a lying about a BJ is more worthy of a CIA/DOJ investigation and perjury charges than a conspiracy to trick the country into invading and occupying another country.

(BTW, Fitzgerald didn't say there WASN'T a conspiracy; he quite specifically said that it couldn't be determined, partly BECAUSE of Libby's misleading and obfuscatory testimony.)
 
2005-10-31 10:19:55 AM  
My comments above are intended for Boojum_2k, too. And the rest of the Bush apologists.

You think Ken Starr's witch-hunt was less of a waste of money than Fitzgerald's investigation?

And do you think Starr wasn't a partisan stooge, and Fitzgerald was?

L. O. L.
 
2005-10-31 10:20:19 AM  
Boojum2k: You, sir, truely have the nose of a bloodhound.

/too bad strapping it to your own nose hasn't improved your sense of smell


Well, it's good enough to let me know that even one indicted White House chief of staff is one too many, and nothing something that should be spun.

Breaking the law is breaking the law, and everyone should be happy when cancer is cut out of our government.
 
2005-10-31 10:20:34 AM  
the authors of our stunning successes in Iraq

Wow, I didn't think you had noticed that Iraq has twice held free, fair, and overwhelming in turnout elections now, ratified a republican Constitution, has one of the strongest non-U.S. militaries in the Middle East, and all done faster than it took to rehabilitate either Germany or Japan.

And here I had thought you were too blinded by Bush-hatred to even acknowledge those facts. Well done, sir!
 
2005-10-31 10:21:31 AM  
Occams_Electric_Razor: and nothing something that should be spun.

Should read:

...and not something that should be spun.
 
2005-10-31 10:21:50 AM  
Apples and pears, Cialis, er, Clavis.
 
2005-10-31 10:22:36 AM  
NyQuiLlama:

Bush promised to fire anyone who was "indited" not "involved." Sooter resigned, so Bush didn't have to fire him. You've mixed up your "i" words again

Actually, it started off as "involved", then changed to "indicted"...

nice try though
 
2005-10-31 10:22:48 AM  
Clavis

Apparently Fitzgerald is not a partisan stooge. Scooter seems to have farked up and has been indicted. Meanwhile, in the rest of the world, the Left ain't doin' so hot.

But dammit, you really wanted that lump of coal, didn't ya.
 
2005-10-31 10:26:06 AM  
Boojum2k: Wow, I didn't think you had noticed that Iraq has twice held free, fair, and overwhelming in turnout elections now, ratified a republican Constitution, has one of the strongest non-U.S. militaries in the Middle East, and all done faster than it took to rehabilitate either Germany or Japan.

The elections are shams, and are meaningless because the country is simply ungovernable.

The constitution was only ever meant for domestic U.S. consumption, since it's completely unenforceable within the country.

Your claims of the Iraqi army being powerful is undermined by reality, namely the reality is that they're routinely slapped around by the insurgents.

Everything you list as successes will last approximately ninety seconds after we pull our troops out of the country.

And here I had thought you were too blinded by Bush-hatred to even acknowledge those facts. Well done, sir!

Are you so far gone to believe that someone who believes in smaller government, fiscal responsibility, and not starting a fruitless war based on deception is a Bush hater? Not too long ago, they were called conservative.
 
2005-10-31 10:26:06 AM  
Clavis

Scooter got busted for the exact same thing Clinton did, getting stupid with a thorough prosecutor. If he's found guily, then he should suffer penalties at least as severe as Clinton (wait, he's suffered more already, Scooter resigned his office). And if he did somehow mishandle classified information (mentioned in the indictment, but not charged interestingly enough), then he should face similar penalties as Sandy Berger.

Let's play it fair, shall we. I don't think you'd like who loses out more in that scenario.
 
2005-10-31 10:26:50 AM  
Wow, I didn't think you had noticed that Iraq has twice held free, fair, and overwhelming in turnout elections now, ratified a republican Constitution, has one of the strongest non-U.S. militaries in the Middle East, and all done faster than it took to rehabilitate either Germany or Japan.


Indeed; things are going so well I'm thinking of moving there!
 
2005-10-31 10:28:46 AM  
Bush's immediate response to the issue of the leak was a bit more far reaching than the boys wanted.
The had to reign him in and have him change his tune to say anyone "found guilty" rather than "involved", would be fired.

Why do you suppose that is?
I think it is because "the boys" already knew of Roves involvment/guilt.
 
2005-10-31 10:29:07 AM  
... I thought that the crime was perjury as opposed to actually "outing" and agent.

/... sort of like Clintons BJ
 
2005-10-31 10:29:51 AM  
Occams_Electric_Razor: Smells like Republican Desperation, this does.


Which part? The part where there was no leak? Or the part where in two years a staffer gets popped for telling a lie?

Clavis: Where were you savings-minded folks when the Ken Starr was blowing $50 million investigating who was blowing President Clinton?

I was there saying that had Clinton smiled, said, "Yup, I got a hummer and it was good" instead of denying it on live TV when it was perfectly obvious, we wouldn't havce had to blow all the time and money we did.

Fitzgerald didn't say there WASN'T a conspiracy; he quite specifically said that it couldn't be determined

'Nuff said.
 
2005-10-31 10:30:03 AM  
Occam's_Electric_Razor

Yep, based on your slanted, hate-filled, and completely wrong rant on Iraq, you're definitely a BDS victim, doesn't matter what your politics are. Hell, there are Buchananites out there who can't stand Bush and who, like you, refuse to see any good in his actions. I'm fairly certain the Aryan farking Nation doesn't either, considering his choices for top advisors and cabinet members. Doesn't change how wrong they or you are.

I also seriously doubt you're a conservative (more likely a Moby), but it doesn't matter.
 
2005-10-31 10:31:28 AM  
I haven't been paying attention recently. Is "criminalizing Republican politics" still a talking point, or did you guys go back to "she wasn't covert" exclusively.

OlafTheBent: /... sort of like Clintons BJ

Exactly like.
 
2005-10-31 10:33:30 AM  
mediaho:

I haven't been paying attention recently. Is "criminalizing Republican politics" still a talking point, or did you guys go back to "she wasn't covert" exclusively.

More the second, they're going to pull out the first more for the Delay/Frist issues...

// can't wait to hear "up or down vote*" again, and again...
// except for nominees not conservative enough
 
2005-10-31 10:34:12 AM  
mediaho:

I haven't been paying attention recently. Is "criminalizing Republican politics" still a talking point, or did you guys go back to "she wasn't covert" exclusively.


Oh, and they've also shifted back to attacking Wilson...

//ahh, newt, just when I think you're sounding rational...
 
2005-10-31 10:34:19 AM  
I come with cookies and fuel.

[image from myhomecooking.net too old to be available]

Dancin_In_Anson: Edsel: Why did Bush originally say he would fire anyone involved in the leak, and then say he would only fire anyone found guilty of a crime?

Neither of which has happened.


Karl Rove's lawyers admit that Rove was involved with the leak, even if he (hypothetically) didn't commit a crime. If Bush is a man of his word, he should fire Rove.

June 10, 2004


Q Given -- given recent developments in the CIA leak case, particularly Vice President Cheney's discussions with the investigators, do you still stand by what you said several months ago, a suggestion that it might be difficult to identify anybody who leaked the agent's name?

THE PRESIDENT: That's up to --

Q And, and, do you stand by your pledge to fire anyone found to have done so?

THE PRESIDENT: Yes.
And that's up to the U.S. Attorney to find the facts.


/Enjoy!
 
Displayed 50 of 704 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | » | Newest | Show all



This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking





On Twitter



  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.