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2002-04-11 10:56:08 AM  
Danke Hotdog

Geez, you could prove that theory in one day ALONE here.
2002-04-11 10:56:37 AM  
So, technically, yer right.......it was only a mention of Nazis....no comparison made.

Goatman is a liberal Nazi poopoohead........there, karmic balance restored.......
2002-04-11 11:05:48 AM  
Harvard University?
What does that dick know, anyway?
2002-04-11 11:06:16 AM  
.nothing rhymes with Nicaragua
2002-04-11 11:09:45 AM  
Me no understand story. I no likey Harvard now...me think dum
2002-04-11 11:10:42 AM  
Bug...how bout...I like agua (it's spanish for water)
2002-04-11 11:10:51 AM  
I like stories.
2002-04-11 11:11:06 AM  
And all is right with the world... thanks Hotdog!
2002-04-11 11:11:37 AM  
This Harfart researcher is just one big poopy-pants dumbfnck.
2002-04-11 11:13:45 AM  
WTF? You mean to tell me that a convenient, anonymous and unaccountable medium like the Internet sometimes attracts dumb people? Bullshiat!
2002-04-11 11:14:20 AM  
No shiat, sherlock...
2002-04-11 11:15:00 AM  
finger/toes check.

2002-04-11 11:15:50 AM  

Intelligent discussion hard to find on the Internet? Yes. As opposed to everyday life, where you can find intelligent discussion at every turn.

Democratic discussion is not such a bad thing. There have been several irresponsible comments made on Fark, but we often learn more about the person making the comment than we do from the actual comment.
2002-04-11 11:16:15 AM  
People that think the internet is full of extremism should be killed!
2002-04-11 11:18:28 AM  
Harvard? Weren't there a bunch of Nazi apologists there well into WWII?
2002-04-11 11:23:18 AM  
Doesn't anyone remember the thread that came off a football story that degenerated into a discussion of American authors?
2002-04-11 11:23:31 AM  
Will all you dummies shut up? I can't hear myself think!

Every time I see that special olympics thing I crack up.
Am I O.K.?
2002-04-11 11:24:02 AM  
Omar_Sharif: Capitalize the 'S' in Spain, and you used 'plane' instead of 'plain'. D-
2002-04-11 11:26:14 AM  
They must have missed my enlightened and informative review of the Wolverine vs. the Hulk battle. I am sure that once they read it they will reverse this slander.
2002-04-11 11:27:06 AM  
Doesn't anyone remember the thread that came off a Harvard research story that degenerated into a remembrance of a discussion over American authors from a previous football story thread?
2002-04-11 11:29:14 AM  
Fark is like the movie "The Good, The Bad And The Ugly"

You can find whatever you're looking for - intelligent, provocative, dumb, hilarious, absurd, irrelevent, etc.
2002-04-11 11:30:20 AM  
Cry me a frickin' river Mr. I-Went-to-Harvard-and-I-Can't-Defend-Myself-in-a-Battle-of-Wits. Maybe he went to Harvard and all, but down here, we bust things out, Old School...pop a cap in yo' Lilly White Azz... What the hell did he expect going to AOL or Yahoo anyway? Might as well go to the mall looking for folks to hang out with to discuss Kandinsky or the effects of loss of speciation has had on the Canadian Wetlands... it's a jungle out there kiddies, have a very fruitful day...
2002-04-11 11:30:22 AM  
Have we sent anybody to go kick his ass yet?
2002-04-11 11:30:39 AM  
"The people who read the blogs tend to be relatively sophisticated," Murtaugh said. "They're not stupid."

Mmmm.. They sure tend to have no life, IMO

"The debate is perhaps a little more refined on some Usenet message boards, a part of the Internet that was popular long before the Web.

Bwahahhaha. Sure, one or two group out of thousands, and moderate the hell out of it, then you can have a decent nazi discussion
2002-04-11 11:35:27 AM  
Nazis never had intelligent internet debates, either.

2002-04-11 11:36:28 AM  
"They were Nazis, Dude?"

"Oh, come on Donny, they were threatening castration!"
2002-04-11 11:37:50 AM  
The debate is perhaps a little more refined on some Usenet message boards, a part of the Internet that was popular long before the Web.

Hahaha. No part of the Internet was popular before the web.
2002-04-11 11:49:22 AM  
I would hate to see the bbs at the Harvard site. I bet its a barrel of laughs [/sarcasm]
2002-04-11 12:03:24 PM  
Well, it's going to get harder and harder to find intelligent discourse on fark now that the mods have taken to deleting posts they don't like.

Fight censorship!
2002-04-11 12:04:32 PM  
Ofcourse this stipulates an other vision on the, even on a more ecological scale, so called 'net citizens' behavioural attitude towards entities in a more firm and compact environment. To prove this theorem we must find a so called 'left wing liberal crazy hippie', which to European standards is not more left than a right winged British conservative and a 'gun hugging, red neck fascist illiterate pig', which to World standards is the acronym for American citizen. Thus obtained shall these two subject enter a windowless sound proof room, occupied with only two desks with computers, a connection to the internet and a buzzer to order some nutricious wholesome protein rich food that stimulates the behavioural cortex.

Within 360 minutes the room had been opened to study the effects.

Describe in no more than one hundred words to situation on site, please refrain from speculation and try to remember the cliche rules, embedded in the constutional Flame Wars manuscript, found in an abandoned basement somewhere near the vicinity of a Taco Bell affiliate:
2002-04-11 12:09:09 PM  
2002-04-11 12:20:49 PM  
Nick Rivera, a technology supervisor at the applied physics department of Columbia University in New York, turns to a British sports Web site, redcafe.net (http://www.redcafe.net) for good political conversation.

Did you say...Nick Rivera!?

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Sorry, I just had to do that.
2002-04-11 12:28:20 PM  
Anyone ever heard the theory that all conversations, if carried on for too long, degenerate into a discussion of sex or bodily functions?

And can someone tell me what a "dirty sanchez" is?
2002-04-11 12:31:25 PM  
Isn't Harvard the ivy league college where something around 92% of it's students graduated with honors because of grade inflation taht was a residual effect form trying to help draft dodging college kids during Vietnam???
Helps explain why they get hot shot professors like this...
2002-04-11 12:39:15 PM  
Bugger_All: Couldn't we just give 'em shivs and tie their wrists together?
2002-04-11 12:43:07 PM  
I had hoped this would come up earlier, but I guess I'll have to say do it myself.

Find in page: Harvard
Search string not found.

The prof is from Rutgers University. And there's no study, he just teaches a class on sociology and the internet.

Glad to see people still read the stories before they consider themselves informed.
2002-04-11 12:48:04 PM  
I wonder if this guy got enough funding for this- I know he needs at least a porsche to attract those Radcliff hotties....
2002-04-11 12:50:22 PM  
"Charlie Murtaugh, a 29-year-old biology researcher at Harvard University, keeps clear of many big message boards when scanning the Web for conversation.

Instead, he turns to so-called Web logs, individually run Web sites that serve as the personal publishing vehicle of the owner. Avoiding the mass audience of the corporate-backed Web sites, Web logs (or blogs, as they are known) tend to generate a more selective audience.
2002-04-11 12:54:40 PM  
Put him on a White Supremist blog, and see how the conversation runs.
2002-04-11 12:57:31 PM  
saxmachine=pwned. Hoisted on your own motherfarking petard bizzatch!
2002-04-11 01:00:20 PM  
Creep Vassalage The first and probably the last time I've ever seen petard and bizzatch used in the same breath...
2002-04-11 01:16:56 PM  
Ahhhhh yes... Blame Harvard and Rutgers. As if NO other college is turning out useless, spoiled brats who proudly made it through the 4-to-12 year beer party on mommy and daddy's dime, spouting the barf-back that their narrow-minded professors demanded from them instead of anything that might resemble individual thought or nurture true initiative and a remote understanding of their so-called specialty as applied in the so-called real world. We are all geniuses. It's the other guy who's stupid. We are all hard-core. It's the other guy who's coddled. Let us all type away merrily on our expensive surrogate binary brain and keep it real, yo!

I'll pre-empt the inevitable flaming: No- I don't know shiat, either, but at least I know that. And I won't argue with anybody either because I have to get back to work.

You know the drill... carry on...
2002-04-11 01:24:13 PM  
I heard Pepperdine was more exclusive?
2002-04-11 01:39:13 PM  
Yes... despite being more productive *research* institutions, I don't see how the Ivy Leagues really are beneficial over a college that costs a third as much (from an education standpoint). Plus, you're virtually guaranteed that the rich (ehem, "legacy") kids fill the classrooms, since no student could afford to pay for those schools with their *own* money.

OK, so maybe I'm bitter that Stanford/Brown/Dartmouth shot me down even AFTER getting a 1510 on the SAT... :P Just because my family's not rich enough to buy a building at the school, bleh.
2002-04-11 01:44:49 PM  
"The openness of these newsgroups has been their downfall," said Robert Wood, a professor at Rutgers University in Camden, New Jersey, who teaches a course on sociology and the Internet.

But the actual quote about intelligence being hard to find came from the author of the article, not from any of the quoted professors.

What's really good is that blogs are listed as the alternate for intelligent discourse. Blogs??? Really? The majority of those that I've seen are by insecure people who feel the need to let us all know how bored and boring they are, and how pissed at the world they are.

2002-04-11 01:52:13 PM  
Oh, and another thing--if you're one of those chicks that run a webcam but never get naked--you really piss me off. You think I'm spending all that time waiting for you to get naked just so I can see you write things like "OMG, I ate kitty litter today?" You think you're so hot that you don't need to strip? You think I shoould view your page just to gleam a glimpse of your look of disdain?

You think you're so worthy of adoration that you shouldn't be naked and thus helping me to rub one out?

Oh, uh, nevermind. Back to the intelligent discussion.
2002-04-11 01:58:03 PM  
Oh, uh, nevermind. Back to the intelligent discussion.

Screw that Penguinista, You're on to something here!
2002-04-11 02:09:20 PM  
Bloggers = chubby tossers who sit before their Gateway's in their underwear...throwing back tube after tube of Pringles as they type crap about their neighbor's pets and their roomie's sex toys. Ah yes...sophistication!
2002-04-11 02:12:18 PM  
Anyone who agrees with this guy is a total fag, and you deserve to die!!!!!
2002-04-11 02:29:23 PM  
Was this guy given money for this study?!!? If so: BIGGEST. RESEARCH SCAM. EVER!
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