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(Expatica)   French chef teams with Japanese swordmaker to market knife set. They slice, they dice, they julienne ronin   (expatica.com) divider line
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2005-03-18 10:19:43 AM  
"A real knife never hurts what it slices,"

Hey, if I'm doing some slicin', I want it to hurt.
 
2005-03-18 10:56:40 AM  
Somebody must have pissed off that japanese swordmaker for him to come out of retirement.
 
2005-03-18 11:39:34 AM  
If you're gonna compare a Kai knife, you compare it to every other knife ever made... that wasn't made by Kai.
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2005-03-18 11:44:48 AM  
Here come the katana fanboys. I heard that if a katana cuts your shadow you die and so do all your ancestors and in WW2 the samurai would cut through tanks with them....
 
2005-03-18 11:45:15 AM  
gotta be an "Iron Chef" joke here somewhere
 
2005-03-18 11:46:24 AM  
lukelightning

I heard that if a katana cuts your shadow you die

What do you mean? Sounds interesting, but never heard this before...
 
2005-03-18 11:47:14 AM  
But how would they do against a light saber?
 
2005-03-18 11:48:50 AM  
Remember that Iron Chef where the challenger had the really big knife and disaprooving parents, that episode had way too many Freudian overtones
 
2005-03-18 11:49:06 AM  
NineInchNader: weren't the portrayal of Samurai in early Kurusowa films such as "The Hidden Fortress" where Lucas got the basis for Jedi anyway?
 
2005-03-18 11:49:39 AM  
NineInchNader
But how would they do against a light saber?

They're not made out of cortosis weave, so no.

/*snort*
 
2005-03-18 11:50:06 AM  
All I want to know is can they cut through adamantium?
 
2005-03-18 11:51:37 AM  
 
2005-03-18 11:52:44 AM  
too bad the knives will likely be way too expensive for any chef without his own show . . . we're underpaid . . .

remember: if you like the food, tip the chef, not the server!
 
2005-03-18 11:52:56 AM  
NineInchNader: weren't the portrayal of Samurai in early Kurusowa films such as "The Hidden Fortress" where Lucas got the basis for Jedi anyway?

Probably, but you never can tell when Lucas is telling the truth or when he's spewing B.S. for publicity. It could be he only thought of that after the original concepts were drawn up.
 
2005-03-18 11:53:21 AM  
That Frog traitor! What about Laguiole? Salope!

On the other hand, my Seki-made Spyderco has given me years of slicing pleasure.
 
2005-03-18 11:53:50 AM  
My Global's kick ass.
 
2005-03-18 11:55:17 AM  
poorjon

Remember that Iron Chef where the challenger had the really big knife and disaprooving parents, that episode had way too many Freudian overtones

Yes indeed, and I found myself wondering just exactly what neurosis drove this poor man to learn to work under such a handicap. I tried a twelve inch Henckel for a while once and had to go back to the ten inch because I kept stabbing the wall, and that's Freudian e-damn-nough right there.
 
2005-03-18 11:56:01 AM  
NineInchNader: well I think that version dates back from the first Star Wars movie....In one of his earliest interviews he directly relates it to Hidden Fortress (ie droids equal peasants; stuck up Princess, retired General fighting entire army; a secret fortress ..thoguh not disguised as a moon)....
In many ways the jedi are samurai like...honorable but savage (thinking nothing of lopping off arms in bars etc)
I always thought the whole discussion between Kenobi and Solo about light sabre vs. blaster was akin to the gun trumping the sword in 19th century Japan
 
2005-03-18 11:56:19 AM  
grizzlyjohnson beat me to it, but I bought the Shun knives and they are the r0xx0r, yo.
 
2005-03-18 11:56:52 AM  
TheAnvil

My Global's kick ass.

Henckel Pro S, baby!
 
2005-03-18 12:00:41 PM  
Dr._Love

I bought the Shun knives and they are the r0xx0r, yo.

I finally found a place around here that carries those so I can take a look at them. What do you like about them? How's the balance? Is that texturing anything but a gimmick, or does it keep things from sticking? How do they compare to the high end Henckel's? Is that round handle weird to work with? Basically if Alton Brown likes 'em, they're good enough for me, but I'm happy with what I have, don't want to change unless there's a good reason, but the Shuns look like excellent knives.
 
2005-03-18 12:00:53 PM  
remember: if you like the food, tip the chef, not the server!

Always wondered how to do this - specifically tell the Maitre'd (spelling?) to give the $ to the chef? Go in back and give it to him/her? (I bet he/she is busy to really take the money at the time).

I know some places set aside a % of the tip to the chef and bartender if drinks were served.
 
2005-03-18 12:04:09 PM  
Merle27 -- Yeah, I remember that from when I was a kid, but I long ago learned to take everyhing Lucas says with a grain of salt.

Speaking of Samurai and Guns, do you remember this movie?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067770/
 
2005-03-18 12:04:38 PM  
Are cutco knives still around? they used to be pretty good (my roomate sold them when we were in colelge)...and did anybody ever have a set of Ginsu's...everytime I tried to cut through a beer can I'd get sprayed.....
 
2005-03-18 12:05:47 PM  
I have a 600W Hitachi plasma cutter. I also have a medium sized helium-argon euctecic welder. Still looking for good gas laser with a crystal doped second stage though. A coupla hundred watts should do it. You could cut through airplanes with it.
 
2005-03-18 12:05:57 PM  
LegLess Dog

too bad the knives will likely be way too expensive for any chef without his own show . . . we're underpaid . . .

Your mistake was actually going into the business, instead of getting a cushy IS job and cooking as a hobby :) I have to admire the pros, though, I know that I would never have what it takes to do that job.
 
2005-03-18 12:06:18 PM  
Oh, and speaking of knives, I loves my Kyocera, double fired ceramics.

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Yes!
 
2005-03-18 12:06:52 PM  
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/obvious?
 
2005-03-18 12:07:42 PM  
NineInchNader: yeah a Samurai Western with Charles Bronson and the great Toshiro Mifune....excellent movie...it's always a shame though that Mifune dies (though that is his typical ending)...how come they don't make movies like that anymore (and don't you dare mention any movie with Owen Wilson...)
 
2005-03-18 12:07:51 PM  
That is a Hattori Hanzo knife!

/gave up on GIS for that one
 
2005-03-18 12:09:07 PM  
Hattori Hanzo surrenders...
 
2005-03-18 12:09:36 PM  
and did anybody ever have a set of Ginsu's

Rule #1: never buy a knife that can't be sharpened.

Rule #2: never buy a knife that claims it never needs sharpening (becaue that means it can't be).

Rule #3: if you disregard rules 1 and 2, never cut on anything harder than a balsawood cutting board.
 
2005-03-18 12:09:50 PM  
...how come they don't make movies like that anymore..

Oh, they do. They just don't make them in Hollywood anymore. Take a look at the Foreign/Indy section of you local rental store.
 
2005-03-18 12:10:25 PM  
grizzlyjohnson: I always thought rule one was never talk about Ginsu
 
2005-03-18 12:11:33 PM  
I wonder if these are what my roommate just got. He's a chef, and just got a set made by a company that used to make samurai swords. They are the same Damascus steel folded over like forty times, and have a black handle. Perfectly balanced and pretty cool.
 
2005-03-18 12:11:43 PM  
Oh great, Merle27, now you'll be getting a visit from the Ginsu people.
 
2005-03-18 12:12:40 PM  
CruJones

Click the link I posted above and see if those aren't them.
 
2005-03-18 12:14:00 PM  
J A Henckels or Wustoff-Trident make fine cutlery at decent prices. I just re-handled my Henckels chef knife in cocobolo
 
2005-03-18 12:15:50 PM  
CruJones: I thought Damascus steel was a lost secret...I though we have modern alloys that are similar but we still don't know how the Arabs made it in the Dark ages? I oculd be wrong though

GrizzlyJohnson: and they won't be cutting tomatos or beer cans will they....crap...
 
2005-03-18 12:16:16 PM  
Dr._Love
I have a Kershaw Leek and Blur ("assisted opening" street-legal switchblades, except that the Blur is just too big for concealed carry), and I saw the Shuns on AB's site. Given that they're Kershaw, and endorsed by AB, I'd assume they're kickazz, but it's good to hear (among many other geekeries, I'm a bladed-weapons geek)
 
2005-03-18 12:18:12 PM  
grizzly: Is that round handle weird to work with?

The handle is not totally round. They are made for right handers. I love them, but lefties might find them awkward. Not sure if there are any lefyy models made.

As for cutting...this is my first set of real knives, so i say they are amazing, though I lack much reference, but they beat the crap out of that Cutco crap my brother used to sell.

I got the 8" chef, 6" util, 3.5" paring btw
 
2005-03-18 12:18:59 PM  
do they make carbon fiber knives for domestic use yet?
 
2005-03-18 12:19:58 PM  
Merle27
my bro used to sell Cutcos... see whoever said the two rules about knives that never need sharpening... they're still usable, but they pale in comparison to my Wustof chef's knive after it's been well-honed, let alone after i've been at it with my two-step sharpener ($10, carbide and ceramic, lifetime replacement... it kicks ass), and CERTAINLY not after i've totally rebeveled it.

/yes, i'm a bladed-weapons geek
 
2005-03-18 12:21:55 PM  
Lucky Bob: and I hear I always thought Cutco was okay...
 
2005-03-18 12:22:51 PM  
 
2005-03-18 12:24:55 PM  
Cutco knives destroy anything out there. The company probably has the best guarantee on any product I know of. If the knife fails for any reason, all you do is send it back to the factory and they send you a free new one. No paperwork needed. I actually sell Cutco, and have done this for a lot of customers who try and use them as screwdrivers and for prying open windows and such.

PS. If anyone wants Cutco, I can get them a mega-discount. :)
 
2005-03-18 12:26:18 PM  
I have a pair of zirconium oxide ceramic scissors which are about as sharp as a sapphire mircotome.
 
2005-03-18 12:29:28 PM  
Merle27
Correction... they come as sharp as any knife can be. The problem is, since they have their funky edge, you can USE them without ever sharpening them, but if you like your knifes oober-sharp (the only way I'll use them) they pale in comparison
 
2005-03-18 12:30:27 PM  
El Farquistador
As I said up-thread... my brother used to sell them. I'd be interested to hear your reaction to my argument about their long-term sharpness.
 
2005-03-18 12:30:29 PM  
Well if CUtco replaces the knives free I guess you don't need to sharpen them...but is the replacement process a real hassle?
 
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