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2005-02-26 05:40:53 AM  

2005-02-26 04:39:32 AM SassyNebrRN

Bill Cosby,...You are so full of yourself,..you make me sick.

Sorry about whatever.
2005-02-26 06:05:32 AM  
Northanger Abbey?!? WTF?

Yeah, whoever said that list is pretentious is right on the money.
2005-02-26 06:17:43 AM  
Anyone read "Swan Song"?...If "Swan Song" is the better of the two, I might just find time to find and read it...someday*.

I don't think it's better than The Stand, but it's a damn fine read.

Actually, McCammon was always a very underrated writer. "Gone South" was phenomenal..."Stinger", "Boys Life"...actually, his good books are some of my favourites.

He also wrote my all-time favourite novella, called "Blue World"...a priest takes confession from a porn star and has a very severe conflict...his faith (more specifically, his vows) are tested big time, and yet all the while he genuinely wants to protect (or help, or "save" her). It's out of print, but if you can find the collection it's printed in (also called Blue World) it's a great read.
2005-02-26 06:21:51 AM  
Dear weirdbooks: linzi­p[nospam-﹫-backwards]a­i­demosi­*co­m

Your list sucks. Stop being pretentious and listing books no one has ever heard of or read. Like Uncle Silas: A Tale of Bertram-Haugh -- "1864 Classic ghost story of Gothic melodrama" You gotta be kidding me. Also, where the heck is IT by Stephen King?

love, Genetic Mishap
2005-02-26 06:22:57 AM  
No Amityville?
And what with the remake coming out too?
2005-02-26 06:28:18 AM  

i remember that book!

/superfudge, the turtle...ha!
2005-02-26 06:49:00 AM  
"And now, in the shadow of unspoken events, I watch Zampano's courtyard darken. Everything whimsical has left. I try to study the light-going carefully. From my room. In the glass of memory. In the moonstream of my imagination. The weeds, the windows, every bench. But the old man is not there, and all the cats are gone. Something else has taken their place. Something I am unable to see. Waiting. I'm afraid. It is hungry. It is immortal. Worse, it knows nothing of whim."

I don't know how many people consider it horror...but House of Leaves farked me up pretty good.
2005-02-26 06:56:12 AM  
No R.L. Stine? fark that.
2005-02-26 07:06:02 AM  
The QUEEN in Yellow?

/stopped reading there.

2005-02-26 07:19:47 AM  
The Painted Bird was filled with unpleasantry,but not a horror novel. I read The Wasp Factory in 1987 and I can tell you that it was like someone putting cigars out on my balloon knot.
2005-02-26 07:22:07 AM  
Richard Christian Matheson's short-story collection "Dystopia" is well worth a read. Lotsa gems in there...


/also loves Steve King and Harlan Ellison
2005-02-26 07:36:31 AM  

Your wish for "Inferno" was good and, maybe deft, by seeing how this list is set I would have to say that it would be number one.
2005-02-26 07:44:56 AM  
I thought the list was a load of pretentious wank, until I got to about number 8 and noticed he was doing it in chronological order. Most of these lists tend to be heavily weighted in favour of the more modern stuff, so I suppose he's taken a fairer approach.

I would have replaced 'The Shining' with 'Pet Semetary'; it was much creepier. The list could also have done with one of James Herbert's earlier books.
2005-02-26 08:13:47 AM  
I_Approve_Of_This_Message American Psycho isn't a horror novel, it's several hundred pages of detailed commentary on designer clothes, personal grooming, and Whitney Houston and Huey Lewis records. Without exaggerating, you could print the genuinely unpleasant parts of it on about 5 pages.

The creepiest novel I've read in the last 10 years is "Voice of the Fire", by Alan Moore.
2005-02-26 08:44:39 AM  
What? No Poppy Z Brite??? Heh.

If any of you are into psychological horror might I suggest;

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2005-02-26 08:56:10 AM  
Oh yeah another popular horror novel of the last few years:

"Geek Love" Katherine Dunn

Nice to see Ray Bradbury make the list.

One of my fave Bradbury shorts...
2005-02-26 09:03:36 AM  
I just finished reading Frankenstein for the first time. Sweet Christ did that suck.

"O my wretched, tortured soul... pity the fates that have befallen the brow of my countenance blah blah blah ad infinitum over and over page after page shaDDUPPP SHADDUP DIE MARY SHELLEY DIE SHADDUP."
2005-02-26 09:11:40 AM  
My English teacher leant me "The Wasp Factory" when I was 13. It's such a horrifying, hilarious and downright perverted book... I loved it!

The bit where it reveals what sent the elder bother mad really bothered me though.... eeew.
2005-02-26 09:16:36 AM  
That is the dumbest list I have ever read. It's just boring and pretentious until it gets down past fifty. Dan Simmons "Song of Kali".. gimme a break, I've read it because I'll read any crappy horror book I find but it would be down amongst the Koontz novels in my ranking. The sheep look up, one of my favorite Brunner novels.. but a horror novel.. give me a break it's clearly a file under sci-fi or maybe cyberpunk. Ghost Story was a nice pic but it should be higher up the list, and Straub and King should each have at least one or two more entries.
2005-02-26 09:24:15 AM  
Among the many things to complain about in this list, I'm going to hit on Northanger Abbey. While it certainly spoofed a lot of gothic horror novels, it was not, itself, a gothic horror novel.
2005-02-26 09:27:15 AM  
"The Thief of Always" By Clive Barker
(my all time favorite)
2005-02-26 09:34:09 AM  
Join us again next week when the Royal Institute for Personal Taste compiles another definitive guide to the creme de la creme of a given category. RIPT will be enlightening the world to the top 20 religions of all time!

We look forward to the frothing masses biatching about rank, ommissions, and inclusion on our list.
2005-02-26 09:44:31 AM  
I've never considered "Lord of the Flies" as horror.

While I enjoy Stephen King, I don't think Salems' Lot really needs to be on the list. Even though it's a novella, "The Mist" is a heck of a lot scarier.
2005-02-26 09:48:51 AM  
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2005-02-26 09:49:25 AM  
Thank you, Cappy. Northanger is a satire. I stopped reading after that one.
2005-02-26 09:56:08 AM  
Nice to see Matheson's I Am Legend in there. Read the book for the first time recently, and it really is a classic. I suppose the fact that the list ended in 1987 is a mixed blessing - on the one hand, we're spared the inclusion of Harry Potter. On the other hand, however, we miss modern masterpieces such as Battle Royale (I'd class it as horror, but I suppose it's a likely point of contention).
2005-02-26 10:12:37 AM  
Wow, I expected The first 10 to be Stephen King, he doesn't show up until 76 or so. I'll have to check out some of these.
2005-02-26 10:18:25 AM  
It's interesting to see this pop up here. The original book containing this list was published in 1989 or thereabouts (which is why the list stops at 1987.) I picked the book up back then and decided it would be cool to try to collect them all.

I've essentially done this, depending on how you count anthologies. There are 4-5 anthologies on this list where I haven't actually collected the book itself, but have collected the vast majority of the stories within the book. (These anthologies include the Machen, Benson, Bowen, Aickman, and Lovecraft "Ousider and Others" anthologies.) The anthologies themselves are either very hard to find or prohibitively expensive, so for the time being I am satisfied with where I'm at.

I'd have to say the list has been useful for me. without it I never would have found Gardner's "Grendel", which is now one of my favorite books.

Unfortunately I have to leave for a few hours, but I'll definitely be checking back in on this thread.
2005-02-26 10:22:27 AM  
Hmmmmmm. I wouldn't trust an article whose purpose is to praise products that's coming from a source that's trying to sell said products.

/Not a philistine; realizes novels are more works than art than products, but just trying to make the statement more all-encompassing.
2005-02-26 10:27:09 AM  
I can't believe he chose "Salem's Lot" and "the Shining" over "IT"...

2005-02-26 10:36:23 AM  
I only agree with your second statement, Fat_Tony. IT is more of a fantasy novel with scary elements and themes throughout than a horror novel. Poor ol' Steve has been typecast as a horror author, so any thing he writes automatically gets chucked into the horror section.
2005-02-26 10:36:31 AM  
One more comment before I really must go...

The list was actually compiled in an interesting way. Jones and Newman wrote to about 150 top current horror authors of the time asking them to suggest a book for the list and write a short essay on it. They took a couple of historical essays (one by Poe, one by Lovecraft) and 98 of the subbmissions they received and put it together in book form. The authors were told that they could use a very liberal definition of "horror", but that the books they suggested had to be fiction. (One wanted to include a book on the effects of thermonuclear war.) This in part explains the wide variety in styles present in the list.

I'll freely admit that many of the books in the list are virtually unreadable. I found "Melmoth the Wanderer" to be tough going and the simple bulk (and old prose style) of "The Wandering Jew" scares me off. Still, it's a fun list and I've learned a lot while working through it.

2005-02-26 10:41:25 AM  
"IT" by far is his best book(not including his short story and novella collections). I read that thick bastard when I was in the 3rd grade. Screwed me up big time. No kid should have to try to figure out why IT, as Bev's dad, is screaming at her about how he wanted to fark her when she was a kid.

Creepy as hell.

/screw the movie
2005-02-26 10:47:06 AM  
William Hope Hodgson is brilliant. Also highly recommended: "The Night Land," if you can wade through it.

/wondering why so many short-story collections are included in a list of novels
//"if it's a big book with no pictures, it must be a novel."
2005-02-26 10:50:17 AM  
This list pisses me off because they did not include any of Laurell K Hamilton's work.

/Anita Blake kicks ass
2005-02-26 10:51:34 AM  
The Anubis Gates is NOT a horror book, it's Sci-Fi. Good book though, but I like Last Call by Tim Powers better.
2005-02-26 10:53:21 AM  
tomasso: Worst ... list ... ever???

...I think you're right. Quite possibly the worst "top 100" list ever-ever. It's presented as a top 100 list, but the list is in chronological order. So the #1 book is just the oldest.

But taken as a chronological list, it looks pretty good. I found the sci-fi list more interesting, personally.
MBK [TotalFark]
2005-02-26 11:03:38 AM  
Since people STILL cannot read...

The list is not done in the order usual lists are done in. The author is NOT saying Faust is scarier than Salem's Lot. LOOK AT THE DATES.

You'd think people who biatch so much about books would have the ability to read....
2005-02-26 11:07:00 AM  
After reading through all three of this guy's "best of" lists, I am convinced that he/they don't know nothin bout nothin. The lists are very incomplete and, um, stupid. That is all.
2005-02-26 11:19:06 AM  
"7. Jane Austen Northanger Abbey

1817 Subversively gentile tale of Gothic horror."

The Zionists must have been up in arms at that one.

2005-02-26 11:20:12 AM  
Lord of the flies definatly was not horror although that movie still scares the hell out of me to this day.

And since most of them are callaborations why not add tat Hot Blood series, It was full of great tales like Genderella and HillBettys
2005-02-26 11:25:40 AM  
Alot of people hate Stephen King because he is successful (even though you that hate him say he is a hack). But two of his books are my absolute favorite reads: It, and The Talisman.

My other two favorite books are Cry to Heaven (Anne Rice) and Pillars of the Earth (Ken Follett).

I have to read these four books every year or so. For me they never get old.
2005-02-26 11:32:33 AM  
Since no one else has mentioned him, I at least was very happy seeing Dan Simmons included on the list. ("Song of Kali") As far as I'm concerned, he's one of the best "genre" writers working today, but the fun thing about him is that, much like Harlan Ellison, he refuses to get pegged down to one specific genre. Horror, sci-fi, fantasy, detective noir, modern action-thrillers, etc etc. All of them excellent.

I'd strongly recommend his "Hyperion Cantos" ("Hyperion" and "Fall of Hyperion") to anyone with the slightest interest in sci-fi. I personally rank it up with Stranger in a Strange Land and Dune in the all-time sci-fi best list.
2005-02-26 11:41:53 AM  
Geez, this list writer is clueless having put that piece of crap insert name here on the list while completely ignoring insert other name here. Morans...
2005-02-26 11:43:03 AM  
The Talisman will always be my number one favorite book. Stepehen King is not my favortie author, but that book was amazing. Talk about being dragged into the story ... my emotions are still recovering.
2005-02-26 11:46:30 AM  
Great to see Swan Song on the list. One of my favorites so I've read it three times.

I only got halfway through 'The Stand' -- which I thought was awful. The only comparison between the two is a similar storyline.
2005-02-26 11:48:20 AM  
I'd have chosen IT over Salem's Lot, but that's me. IT was one of the few books that got me so engrossed that I could *smell* things. Like the damp Derry streets...

A couple of very freaky books that I've had permanently borrowed from me:

Wet Work by Philip Nutman: A CIA assassin goes to Central America to take out a drug kingpin and crew (IIRC) only to find that they're already dead-- and whattya know, some are becoming zombies! The CIA agent gets bit and becomes a zombie too; only he manages, for the most part, to retain his consciousness. He tries to continue his work, all the while battling his increasing hunger for live human flesh...

Dearest by Peter Loughran: This is a quite freaky and very darkly comic book. Told pretty much 1st person, a REAL WEIRDO decides to go after the woman of his dreams, and make her his very own...

One of the most disturbing books I've ever read was Crossing the Line by Lisa Pulitzer and Joan Swirsky. It's the true story of NY serial strangler Joel Rifkin; but unlike most hack paperpack serial killer tales, this one *truly* took you "inside the head"; it actually made you understand why he did what he did, and why he chose do do it the *way* he did. It was that unexpected feeling of understanding-- and even sympathy-- that made it one of the creepiest books I've ever read.

That's not to say I have any real sympathy for Joel Rifkin; but the authors did a great job at putting the reader in his shoes, without ignoring the fact that the man was a monster.
2005-02-26 11:52:37 AM  
I'll join Lumbar and recommend Tim Powers' books -- I love all of them. They're great!
2005-02-26 12:09:58 PM  
Flannery O'Connor's The Violent Bear It Away belongs on that list.
2005-02-26 12:10:03 PM  
Great to see McCammon in that list... Swan Song was always one of my favorites. Blue World was also great.

Richard Matheson had one brilliant moment with I Am Legend. The rest of that compendium slurped.

I'm surprised that fantasy horror didn't make a bigger showing... I'd like to have seen Clive Barker's The Great and Secret Show or Imajica on that list.
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