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2005-02-11 01:22:05 PM  
This movie is the biggest money making scam.
It's based on a dark ages church propaganda piece
used to fear people into adhering to the church and to
paint Jews as bad people. It was stupid a few thousand years ago and its stupid now - as in it serves no good purpose, I don't see intimidating weak minded people to be a good thing.
So everyone don those "Passion of the Christ" thongs, grab your "Passion of the Christ" lunchbox and take the kiddies to see the movie Easter Sunday. I'm sure they will appreciate that much more than hunting for Easter candy.
 
2005-02-11 01:22:41 PM  
Is walkingtall really bevets trying out some of his own "original" musings or thoughts?
 
2005-02-11 01:23:25 PM  
2005-02-11 01:18:08 PM Hebalo

Those are my exact thoughts when I see them. That's the biggest reason I laugh; it's that devious little voice telling me to "Just do it...'we' can run faster than they can!"
 
2005-02-11 01:23:51 PM  
chaoswolf

hate religion with all my being, but even I wouldn't do this. I just want to make damn sure his idiotic faith-based morality isn't made into law and pushed on all of us that have gotten over relgion.

So you really think this belief does not color your behavior. So you believe that you are the only person who has ever lived who can divorce their beliefs from their actions? My hat is off to you my friend. We have had battles before and once I scrape off the thin layer of normalcy about you the real hate filled nasty side of you comes out. Just takes pushing the right button. So if your words follow your beliefs why do you think your actions are immune? I find this hypocrisy laughable. I find you laughable. It is a shame you cannot see yourself as you really are. I guess none of us really wants to do that.
 
2005-02-11 01:24:32 PM  
"...and the cuts are limited to the more violent aspects of the film, if that's the right term."

I guess if it's Jesus being tortured, it's not really violence ?
 
2005-02-11 01:24:45 PM  
I also worship at the thrown of Doc Suess. I challenge anyone to argue that his books are not the word of god.

God is an imaginary friend for adults.
 
2005-02-11 01:25:07 PM  
walkingtall
However, he would not be pro-choice. He would not tell homosexuals that their BEHAVIOR is OK.

Why are neither abortion nor homosexual activity ever discussed by Jesus?

Abortion was legal under Roman law at the time, and yet he never spoke of it. Why?

http://www.twopaths.com/faq_abortion.htm
 
2005-02-11 01:25:10 PM  
walkingtall:

He would not tell homosexuals that their BEHAVIOR is OK

Did you speak to him yourself?

With that statement you must think homosexuality is a choice right and that they can control their behavior right?

Tsk, tsk.
 
2005-02-11 01:26:25 PM  
Yes. Rape. Christian proselytizing is like rape to me. Even the best-intentions of a Christian who wanders around preaching to everyone boil down to nothing more than behavior that mirrors that of a flasher who gets off on indecent exposure. Cornering someone and quoting scripture at them is mental rape. Forcing a child to believe in Jesus with horror stories and promised rewards is worse than molestation.

Rape! You're forcing yourself upon me in an intimate way. You're forcing me to succumb to your beliefs. You're forcing your way of life into laws that govern me. Christians are rapists, the Bible is their penis.

/Keep your bible-penis out of me. NO means NO.


Ah, the depths of pathos! The gamut of hyperbole!

Jeez... do you people truly believe in what you say, or does this anonymous stage of FARK just prove too seductive a venue for the ham actor in us all?
 
2005-02-11 01:27:51 PM  
Blanket = God
Cold = Death
 
2005-02-11 01:28:19 PM  
2005-02-11 12:54:45 PM walkingtall


We are each responsible for our own faith but please tell me why you consider yourself a Christian. If my memory serves you are not a Christian. If I am wrong I apologize but your past posts do not jibe with your current claim unless I am mistaken.

I am very much a Christian. I am also smart enough to know that you can't take everything the bible says literally. I also have no problem with homosexuals. I believe the Bible (especially the New Testament) serves as a guide on how to live your life and love and respect one another, regardless of who or what they are. Granted, your conscious does this for you, but the Bible helps to serve your conscious. My God is a loving and forgiving God. I do have a problem with people who quote Leviticus to justify hating homosexuality and/or saying their lifestyle is wrong. Then they are picking and choosing and I will call them on it. (Like Mike_71 and Bevets) The Old Testament basically served the purpose of explaining the laws of the day in biblical terms. I am very non-judgemental of those who are tolerant and respectful. My best friend is agnostic and is the most generous and giving person I know; a true friend. I would more likely see him in heaven than Mike_71 and Bevets.
 
2005-02-11 01:29:17 PM  
I need you in my life, Jesus.
I can't live without you, Jesus
And I just want to feel you deep inside me, Jesus....
Don't ever leave me, Jesus. I couldn't stand to see you go.
My heart would simply snap, my Lord, if you walked on out that door.
I promise I'll be good to you, and keep you warm at night.
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, why don't we just... shut off the lights...
The Shepherd and the Light, and His Word lifted me up
And I praise His Holy Name wherever I go...
I'll take good care of you baby. Call you my baby, baby!
You died for my sins, and you know that I would die for you, right?
What's the matter, baby? You tremble at Jesus, baby!
Your love... is my life! You know when Im without you, there's a black hole in my life! Oo-ohhh!
I wanna believe. It's all right, 'cause I get lonely in the night and it's up to you to
Save me! Jee...sus...bay-by...
Oh Lord you are my Savior! You know I miss you so much when you are gone...
Yes I may be born again, but I was wasn't born again yesterday...
I wanna get down on my knees and start pleasing Jesus! I wanna feel his salvation all over my face...
The Body of Christ! Sleek swimmer's body, all muscled up and toned!
The Body of Christ! O, Lord Almighty, I wish I could call it my own...You're one time, two times, three times my Savior...Whenever I see Jesus up on that Cross I can't help but think that he looks kinda hot...
 
2005-02-11 01:29:31 PM  
Religion's just like TV--if you don't want to hear it, walk away. Let the Christians have their fun, it makes them happy. And everyone should have a chance to be happy.
 
2005-02-11 01:30:32 PM  
chaoswolfwrote:
I hate religion with all my being, but even I wouldn't do this. I just want to make damn sure his idiotic faith-based morality isn't made into law and pushed on all of us that have gotten over relgion.

walkingtall responded:
So you really think this belief does not color your behavior. So you believe that you are the only person who has ever lived who can divorce their beliefs from their actions?

No one suggested that President Bush may not ask God for advice and make decisions based on what he thinks God tellls him and what the Bible teaches. Of course this does not violate the separation of church and state, so what exactly your point is is any one's guess.
 
2005-02-11 01:31:03 PM  
2005-02-11 01:14:29 PM Civil_War2_Time

Is it just me, or does anyone else laugh at Catholics every ash Wednesday? I just want to walk up to them and wipe their foreheads; but around here that'll get me 5-10...stab-wounds that is.

If you knew the true meaning of recieving ashes, then maybe you'd be respectful and wouldn't laugh.
 
2005-02-11 01:31:20 PM  
cryinoutload
Religion's just like TV--if you don't want to hear it, walk away. Let the Christians have their fun, it makes them happy. And everyone should have a chance to be happy.

Your analogy would only be valid if the TV was impossible to turn off and physically followed you around everywhere. Oh, and the only programming would be a guy telling you that you're going to hell.
 
2005-02-11 01:31:25 PM  
LoveInAction

"Jeez... do you people truly believe in what you say, or does this anonymous stage of FARK just prove too seductive a venue for the ham actor in us all?"


Although I tend to agree with Holly_Wight's core message, it does seem a bit dramatic. Almost as dramatic as the Christianity is under attack posters.
 
2005-02-11 01:32:21 PM  
walkingtall

Umm. you need to study history a little better because you made statements that are not true. You have to remember that Christianity as a movement started right after his death.

Where did I say otherwise?

Not hundreds of years later.


When did I say this? I said it was written down generations later.

How could a movement exist within the lifetimes of contemporary people of Christ based on a person who did not exist? Please tell me how that could happen.

So Hercules was real? Heroditus studied him like he was real. People had temples to Hercules (there is one in Pompeii). Were all other polytheistic gods and other entities real? People worshiped them enough.


Christianity was a very hard sell and every claim was put under more scrutiny then you can even fathom.Every statement by every Christian, every apostle, every disciple, was scrutinized and vatted.

Please provide examples of how you know this. Christians were just another religious cult to the Romans until it became popular by official edict. Remember the feeding Christians to the lions bit? Well, that was mainly because they were not the official religion of Rome. In fact, the Roman Emperor was who one should worship in Ancient Rome.

Now it becomes the official religion, and everyone knows that if you don't take up the official religion, you get punished. Not that hard a sell at that point.

To even doubt that Jesus existed ignores history entirely and is equivalent of a child who closes his/her eyes and in their mind the person disappears.


So because it is written, it is so? Atlantis exists? Achilees was dipped up to his ankles in Kevlar(tm) by The Gods? Thunder comes from Odin?

I am willing to believe that a doomesday prophet with a cult following named Jesus existed, I said so in my original post, if you bothered to read it. Give me proof of miracles and I will believe the rest of it.
 
2005-02-11 01:32:32 PM  
So since Mel Gibson is still alive, is it OK for me to criticize him?

/escaping pseudo-intellectual shiat storm from the other thread
 
2005-02-11 01:32:56 PM  
LIA
[image from img210.exs.cx too old to be available]
"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives"
 
2005-02-11 01:33:03 PM  
cryinoutloud:

Religion's just like TV--if you don't want to hear it, walk away. Let the Christians have their fun, it makes them happy. And everyone should have a chance to be happy.

I'd be happy to do that but they want to force their views, beliefs and values on me and into my life.
 
2005-02-11 01:33:55 PM  
Hebalo

Aaahhhh, so you're a gay-basher. It makes sense now.

Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world. Red or black, except IF THEY'RE GAY. Right, big guy?


P.S. Being Liberal does not require one to be adamantly pro-choice


Ahh the tired old argument that states to say someone's behavior is wrong means you do not love the person. If that was the case then every parent hates their child when they correct them. Completely dumb argument. I hate a gay no more then I hate myself. I have viewed pornography. That makes me a fornicator which is used in the same sentence with homosexuality. To hate a gay means I have to hate myself also. However, just like my own behavior is wrong so is homosexuality. That is the difference.
 
2005-02-11 01:34:39 PM  
I just have my mother put out her cig on my forehead. Same thing. SAME THING!!!!

OH yeah, Christians. Why are there no dinosaurs in the bible? With millions of bones as PROOF, and NO PROOF of your 3 peeps. Why??

Why don't they even mention jesus AT ALL in his teen years?? It musta been smoke break for the authors. Need more material!!
 
2005-02-11 01:34:43 PM  
Although I tend to agree with Holly_Wight's core message, it does seem a bit dramatic. Almost as dramatic as the Christianity is under attack posters.

Oh, I'd say it was a tad more dramatic... Xtians talking about the Word of God being compared to flashers? Come, come... (no pun intended)... fair is fair, and let's not add to the melodrama.
 
2005-02-11 01:35:19 PM  
kendi823

Good talking to you. peace.

You too, and enjoy your lunch (it's dinner-in-front-of-the-tv-watching-reruns-of-simpsons-time on this side of the planet).
 
2005-02-11 01:35:48 PM  
STONE THE FORNICATOR!
 
2005-02-11 01:36:21 PM  
2005-02-11 01:31:03 PM Wytchocolate

"If you knew the true meaning of recieving ashes, then maybe you'd be respectful and wouldn't laugh."

I know that if they do exist, they are laughing at you too. Do you also think the pope will shoot right to heaven...faster than a "normal" practicing catholic?
 
2005-02-11 01:36:44 PM  
2005-02-11 01:34:39 PM Mogadore

Why don't they even mention jesus AT ALL in his teen years?? It musta been smoke break for the authors. Need more material!!


To be fair, Jesus was probably just chasing the chicks when he was a teen. All that raising the dead stuff was when he was more responsible.
 
2005-02-11 01:37:10 PM  
"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives"

I'll admit, after reading that... well... it moved!

/if you must have the truth, then!
 
2005-02-11 01:37:13 PM  
Meh, screwed up my italics tags, sorry.
 
2005-02-11 01:37:31 PM  
[image from img.photobucket.com too old to be available]

Seriously though, Jesus was a JEW. If you guys really worshipped him, wouldn't you all be Jews too? If it was good enough for Jesus....
 
2005-02-11 01:38:08 PM  
I have viewed pornography. That makes me a fornicator which is used in the same sentence with homosexuality.

So watching = doing now?

You STILL haven't explained to us how being Xtian means ou can't be Liberal in today's world.

I suspect because you don't have a point.
 
2005-02-11 01:38:53 PM  
Hebalo

P.S. Being Liberal does not require one to be adamantly pro-choice



Sorry my friend but even Mr. Kerry stated that belief in pro-choice is a defining belief in a liberal, Democratic platform. Reproductive choice is a liberal foundation. Sorry you are wrong.
 
2005-02-11 01:39:08 PM  
Ha! You ask if we believe what we say, when the Christian alternative is to believe in invisible sky-men, burning bushes that talk, boats full of every animal on Earth, a fairy-tale afterlife in a golden city, and punishment that involves torture in a lake of fire.

Yes. I believe what I say. I say what I believe, and I state what I know from experience. I was a Christian for a while. I went to Christian schools. I am surrounded by them every day, and I have yet to find one who isn't at least a self-centered, fearful, low-key hate-monger with a smile on their face.

I've been a part of many atheist happenings, and was amazed at the number of "loving" Christians who would invade our gatherings, try to convert us, and then insult us and say horrible things (or threaten violence) when we said we weren't interested.

It's not that Christians exist. It's that Christians can't seem to understand the concept of keeping their beliefs to themselves! How many times have I heard religious homophobes say "I don't care if you're gay, just don't go advertising it!" and then they turn around and plaster walls with crosses, shove tracts into the hands of children, and offer meals to the poor in exchange for their eternal souls. How many times have I had someone try to "save" me? And yet I've not "recruited" ONE person into the "gay agenda" or "homo army" or whatever the hell you people say we're organising.

(Here's a hint: If you want to be charitable, be charitable. Don't require someone to listen to preaching in exchange for your "charity" if you want it to be anything more than a bribe.)

Oh, yes- Fark is a stage, and all the farkers are actors. But I am most certainly solid in my convictions. I am an enemy of religion: Make no mistake about that.
 
2005-02-11 01:39:47 PM  
walkingtall:

Ahh the tired old argument that states to say someone's behavior is wrong means you do not love the person. If that was the case then every parent hates their child when they correct them. Completely dumb argument. I hate a gay no more then I hate myself. I have viewed pornography. That makes me a fornicator which is used in the same sentence with homosexuality. To hate a gay means I have to hate myself also. However, just like my own behavior is wrong so is homosexuality. That is the difference.

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2005-02-11 01:39:54 PM  
jeklow

Judaism isn't only a faith, its a race.

Thats like saying if you really belive in Dr. MLK, you'll become black.
 
2005-02-11 01:40:10 PM  
Why don't they even mention jesus AT ALL in his teen years?? It musta been smoke break for the authors. Need more material!!

Tsk, tsk! Everyone knows the credo of any good author is: "Leave 'em wanting more!"
 
2005-02-11 01:40:16 PM  
2005-02-11 01:33:55 PM walkingtall


Ahh the tired old argument that states to say someone's behavior is wrong means you do not love the person. If that was the case then every parent hates their child when they correct them. Completely dumb argument. I hate a gay no more then I hate myself. I have viewed pornography. That makes me a fornicator which is used in the same sentence with homosexuality. To hate a gay means I have to hate myself also. However, just like my own behavior is wrong so is homosexuality. That is the difference.

To my understanding,you believe that lust, having sex out of wedlock or without loving the other person is fornication. If so, then, how is sex between two consenting adults who love each other but happen to be the same sex wrong? Isn't God a God of love?
 
2005-02-11 01:40:33 PM  
2005-02-11 01:38:53 PM walkingtall

Sorry my friend but even Mr. Kerry stated that belief in pro-choice is a defining belief in a liberal, Democratic platform. Reproductive choice is a liberal foundation. Sorry you are wrong.


So Kerry gets to say who's a liberal and who's not? Is that some sort of super-power or something?

/conservative
//there are liberals who disagree with the party platform, same for Republicans
 
2005-02-11 01:41:32 PM  
ChronicMasturbator: Mike_71 had his ass handed to him in the snowflake thread.

Mike_71 has his ass handed to him in every thread.
 
2005-02-11 01:42:31 PM  
So Hercules was real? Heroditus studied him like he was real.

You have mentioned Hercules
And so like Caesar I will seize
From all opportunities
This to prattle as I please:
There's a problem if you ask us
From him struck en route Damascus
Have you ever read or heard
Of Hercules' dying words?
(Hercules and myth predated
The One of Three so celebrated)
 
2005-02-11 01:43:03 PM  
I am very much a Christian. I am also smart enough to know that you can't take everything the bible says literally. I also have no problem with homosexuals. I believe the Bible (especially the New Testament) serves as a guide on how to live your life and love and respect one another, regardless of who or what they are. Granted, your conscious does this for you, but the Bible helps to serve your conscious. My God is a loving and forgiving God. I do have a problem with people who quote Leviticus to justify hating homosexuality and/or saying their lifestyle is wrong. Then they are picking and choosing and I will call them on it. (Like Mike_71 and Bevets) The Old Testament basically served the purpose of explaining the laws of the day in biblical terms. I am very non-judgemental of those who are tolerant and respectful. My best friend is agnostic and is the most generous and giving person I know; a true friend. I would more likely see him in heaven than Mike_71 and Bevets.

I like. This is the only tolerable form of religion. Jesus (he probably did exist)taught love and unity. And these are always useful lessons however the bible as a whole...I'm looking at you Old Testament.......is a load of horse shiat.
It is basically an out line of a form of religoius gov't where the preist class recieves taxes, in the form of sacraments. It is pretty clear when you read leviticus that its merely a way to keep the ruling class(Preists) rich and powerful. It is one thing to say that that you believe in the teaching of Christ, it is insanity to take that belief to the extreme that we see growing in th USA.

Question: Does the New Testament state that Homosexuality is a sin?....I haven't reread the New Testament recently, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't. All the homo-hating is in the old testament(not positive)

Last, any religous folks notice that that YHWH is a lot different in the old testament than in the new. One is a real dick one is a pretty nice guy.
 
2005-02-11 01:43:25 PM  
Dawnrazor

Mike_71 has his ass handed to him in every thread.

Well played.
 
2005-02-11 01:43:33 PM  
Sorry my friend but even Mr. Kerry stated that belief in pro-choice is a defining belief in a liberal, Democratic platform. Reproductive choice is a liberal foundation. Sorry you are wrong.

So, cuz' Kerry said it it's fact? I could give a flying fark what he thinks. I'm certain that I could find a number of Republican acts and beliefs that fly in the face of Xtianity.

My issue is that you seem to believe that only conservatives have the right to call themselves xtians.
 
2005-02-11 01:43:50 PM  
LoveInAction:

Why don't they even mention jesus AT ALL in his teen years?? It musta been smoke break for the authors. Need more material!!

Tsk, tsk! Everyone knows the credo of any good author is: "Leave 'em wanting more!"


I think jebus was in his experimental stage and having butt sex with his 12 buddies during his teen years.
 
2005-02-11 01:43:55 PM  
So Hercules was real? Heroditus studied him like he was real. People had temples to Hercules (there is one in Pompeii). Were all other polytheistic gods and other entities real? People worshiped them enough

Mythology is a whole nother kettle of fish. Jesus was stated as a living breathing person and the people who actually interacted with him were the ones making the claim. Not hundreds of years later after many retellings. Different concept.
 
2005-02-11 01:44:12 PM  
2005-02-11 01:36:21 PM Civil_War2_Time

2005-02-11 01:31:03 PM Wytchocolate

"If you knew the true meaning of recieving ashes, then maybe you'd be respectful and wouldn't laugh."

I know that if they do exist, they are laughing at you too. Do you also think the pope will shoot right to heaven...faster than a "normal" practicing catholic?


I'm not saying that one religion is better than the other. I am Catholic because it closely reflects my beliefs. I think you should educate yourself about other religions and learn to be more tolerant of them.
 
2005-02-11 01:45:04 PM  
Why don't they even mention jesus AT ALL in his teen years?? It musta been smoke break for the authors. Need more material!!

Tsk, tsk! Everyone knows the credo of any good author is: "Leave 'em wanting more!"


That part was explained in the lesser-known "The Young Jesus Chronicles". It was cancelled after a season or two.
 
2005-02-11 01:46:29 PM  
So all the Priests that are farking little boys.... They're going to your "heven"? Yeah, makes me want to holiday there... NOT.

It's do as I say, not say as I do with religions. Hypocrites!
 
2005-02-11 01:46:54 PM  
Mythology is a whole nother kettle of fish. Jesus was stated as a living breathing person and the people who actually interacted with him were the ones making the claim. Not hundreds of years later after many retellings. Different concept.

Budda was a real person. Mohammed was a real person. A number of African countries worship their living leaders as gods.

And where is this "proof" that Jesus was 1) alive 2)divine.
 
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