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2005-02-11 10:27:17 AM  
Triaxis

"Farenheit 911 never seems to be ridiculed."

My god your right, I haven't seen one negative comment about that film, let alone an almost 50/50 split between positive and negative comments. Good trolling.
 
2005-02-11 10:27:18 AM  
["Dawn of the christ" perhaps?]

We have a sequal title , ladies and gentlemen!!!
 
2005-02-11 10:27:53 AM  
It's fairly evident from Roman court commentaries that a guy, Jesus, did walk the earth, and had opinions on everything and anything, but the divinity and magic tricks I don't buy.
 
2005-02-11 10:27:57 AM  
"The Jesus Chainsaw Massacre" is STUPID. "Nine Inch Nails...The Movie". Now that's funny.

And what is all this Jew whining stuff? Gibson didn't write the Bible. EVERYONE involved was a Jew, including Christ, with the exception of the Romans who had a hand in killing him too.

What do you want, a cadre of Klingons to land and kill him?

Ok, this will sound anti-Semetic but Goddammit if the Jews can't wait for something to whine about. And this movie not getting nominated for anything? How freaking predudiced is that?
 
2005-02-11 10:29:34 AM  
I have found most christians to be more accepting of other people than your basic non-christian,

Of course they are, getting new converts, saving some souls and all that.
 
2005-02-11 10:29:49 AM  
Sorry to multi-post, once again. But although liberals tend not to be religious and are by definition more tolerant than conservatives, there are still a lot of very tolerant christians out there, generalisations are stupid.
 
2005-02-11 10:29:53 AM  
Action Replay Nick I want a special edition with alternate endings. The whole "rise from the dead" thing just spoiled the flick for me.

Don't forget there's supposed to be a sequal where Jesus returns as a "thief in the night".


[image from jerusalem.indymedia.org too old to be available]
 
2005-02-11 10:31:00 AM  
I hope Mel didn't cut out my favorite line in the movie. It's that one part where Jesus goes "AAAUUGHHHH..."
 
2005-02-11 10:31:19 AM  
This thread is worthless without...
[image from home.kc.rr.com too old to be available]
 
2005-02-11 10:31:23 AM  
Mugato,

Most of the anti-semetic claims did not come from jews, they were from liberal atheists, according to my jewish teacher.
 
2005-02-11 10:31:29 AM  
Sorry to multi-post, once again. But although liberals tend not to be religious and are by definition more tolerant than conservatives, there are still a lot of very tolerant christians out there, generalisations are stupid.

Heh heh heh heh heh.....
 
2005-02-11 10:31:53 AM  
2005-02-11 10:20:59 AM ScubaDoo

...the general theme of the film seemed to be "See? See?!? You should feel bad aboput this!!!"

Let's not forget though that the film only focused on a 12 hour window of Jesus' life. Needless to say it was not a good day for the guy.

For the sake of the debate, let's take out the whole "Son-of-God" notion for a moment. If you saw this story about a man who was sentenced to a slow and painful death for simply speaking heresy, you wouldn't feel bad for the guy?

Shiat, I felt bad for Sean Penn in "Dead Man Walking" and he raped and murdered people before he was sent to die.

Peace.
 
2005-02-11 10:31:54 AM  
James Bong:

Nice list of quotes. Unfourtunately for you; The Einstein one is talking about the laws of nature,not God, Newton, as I said previously, pretended to be a christian because if he didn't he would have been killed (read a biography of him, it's not a big secret) and the Hawking one was taken when he was a Deist, which he isn't anymore.

Care to try again?
 
2005-02-11 10:32:17 AM  
Mr. Clarence Butterworth

Funny thing is, a lot of people do not believe in miracles until they actually need one
 
2005-02-11 10:33:18 AM  
Action Replay Nick


I want a special edition with alternate endings. The whole "rise from the dead" thing just spoiled the flick for me.


coulda been worse. he could have woken up to discover that it was all just a dream.

the shower scene with victoria principal would have been kinky, tho.
 
2005-02-11 10:33:19 AM  
Thurg

Perhaps you are wise enough to really look around and absorb the wonders of nature and life and all of the unexplained marvels that exist even with the simplest of creatures and know that there is something greater behind the scenes.
 
2005-02-11 10:33:52 AM  
Funny thing is, a lot of people do not believe in miracles until they actually need one


O......kay.
 
2005-02-11 10:34:04 AM  
eclectro You seem to be a coherent person. Why would you soapbox in a fark forum that this thread is proof that Jesus is always right? Did he foresee this thread or do you give it meaning by interpreting his words and thus doing the same as what you accuse others of, namely judge?
 
2005-02-11 10:34:12 AM  
Goddammit more posting by me, I get so carried away. Anyhoo...

Mugato:

Ok, this will sound anti-Semetic but Goddammit if the Jews can't wait for something to whine about. And this movie not getting nominated for anything? How freaking predudiced is that?

Less prejudiced than anti-semetic stereotyping. Oh yeah, and although I haven't seen The Passion, while I disagreed with the content fo it I thought that Farenheit 9/11 was very well put together technically. Why doesn't that have a nomination, bias or differing opinions?
 
2005-02-11 10:34:13 AM  
2005-02-11 10:29:53 AM NineInchNader
What is wrong with this picture?


No passover blood above the door?
 
2005-02-11 10:34:36 AM  
"Most of the anti-semetic claims did not come from jews, they were from liberal atheists, according to my jewish teacher."

Maybe true, unless you count that little organization called the Jewish Anti-Defamation Leauge.
 
2005-02-11 10:34:41 AM  
You know, for the people out there like myself, calling "passion" the "Jesus Chainsaw Massacre" is actually offensive. Not that I expect anyone to care.

That being said, I acually saw it in the movie theater, and I was changed because of it. It says in the Bible that Jesus was tortured beyond reconition, and beyond what a typical human would be able to endure. So if you know that, you realize that the movie is the most accurate visual portrayal of His death than anything that already exists. I think it's important for Christians to see the pain he went through, even though he didn't deserve any of it. He did nothing wrong. But He went through it anyway.

All you haters can say whatever you want, I've heard it all before. But for me, there is great value to this movie. And in the same way that a Holocaust film is important to see (however distrubing or gory), so is this.
 
2005-02-11 10:35:01 AM  
Mugato: Ok, this will sound anti-Semetic but Goddammit if the Jews can't wait for something to whine about. And this movie not getting nominated for anything? How freaking predudiced is that?

Considering that the history of the Passion Play was to stir up antagonism against the Jews during the Middle Ages, I think they kinda have a point. Pilate is made out to be the sympathetic character, looking to protect Jesus from those horrible, bloodthirsty Hebes.

And why would a two-hour Aramaic snuff film get an Oscar nomination? This movie has very little to do with Jesus.

Oh, and my vote for alternate title?
Good Friday the 13th.
 
2005-02-11 10:35:12 AM  
What it boils down to: Fundamentalist Christians (Baptists/Non-Denom) think everyone else is going to hell but them. This includes Mormans (space underwear), JW (144,000), Seventh (dude, come on, it's Sunday), Catholics (Mary/Pope lovers)...

If you do not hang out with a bunch of lame-asses, shove donuts down your throat, wave your hands in the air, go to rock and roll church with lyrics on the screen while some guitar fark is leading you...

//Hates organized religion
//Thinks there is One God for entire planet and that people are a bunch of dumbasses.
 
2005-02-11 10:35:18 AM  
Gunther,

Newton was very religious. See link.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/modules.php?name=Read&itemid=2614&cat=​13
 
2005-02-11 10:35:23 AM  
eclectro:

Funny thing is, a lot of people do not believe in unicorns until they actually need one

I fixed your post. It makes more sense now.
 
2005-02-11 10:35:41 AM  
Mr. Clarence Butterworth

Learn the difference between statistical fact and generalisation.
 
2005-02-11 10:36:25 AM  
2005-02-11 10:26:19 AM WalkingCarpet
This thread is useless without Mike_71


You beat me to it. Barjockey, could you start using lots of ALL CAPS, bold and italics in randomly placed chunks? Just until Mike arrives?

/and whatever happened to CatholicSamurai?
 
2005-02-11 10:36:27 AM  
To me the message of the film seemed totally non-religious. I saw it as: "Do not disagree with or organize against the people in charge, or this will happen to you. Only you will stay dead."
 
2005-02-11 10:36:30 AM  
Learn the difference between statistical fact and generalisation.


O...kay.
 
2005-02-11 10:37:53 AM  
"You guys aren't making Jesus better, you're making rock n' roll worse!"

/Hank Hill
 
2005-02-11 10:38:54 AM  
Mr_Fabulous:

You beat me to it. Barjockey, could you start using lots of ALL CAPS, bold and italics in randomly placed chunks? Just until Mike arrives?

Don't forget making a statement an absolute fact by stating "PERIOD".
 
2005-02-11 10:39:00 AM  
Bugger_All

I think there is a difference between judging and hating. And Fark being Fark plays fast and loose between the two. Food for thought for me, I doubt for others though.
 
2005-02-11 10:39:44 AM  
Mr. Clarence Butterworth

More registered Democrats (proportionally) are not registered Christians in comparison to Republicans. Assuming that Democrat = liberal, Republican = conservative, what I said is therefore a statistical fact. Although to be honest assumptions make an ass out of U and me, or some other less nerdy comment.
 
2005-02-11 10:42:39 AM  
"TurnerBrown: Face it. You just like bashing christians.

Got it in one, turnerbrown! Welcome to FARK."

Thanks Elendilmir,

Actually been around a long time. I used to try to be logical on some of the flamewars bevis started in.

Dont post as much anymore cause I have a life
 
2005-02-11 10:42:54 AM  
Thurg

Interesting. I've read a couple of biographies of the man, both of which have claimed he was an atheist. looks like there's some contoversy over it.

Always felt kinda sorry for the guy. must have been hard to be a bisexual alchemist/scientist with the church in its "kill all heretics" phase
 
2005-02-11 10:43:49 AM  
Mugato: And this movie not getting nominated for anything? How freaking predudiced is that?


Um, it was nominated for an Oscar for cinematography, makeup and original music. It also won other awards in festivals all over the world including best director and best drama.

Goddammit if the Jews can't wait for something to whine about

From previous threads i recall that you are not a fan of jews in general, and that's an understatement. What some jewish organizations were worried, i believe, is that some people have a problem telling reality from what they see on film so when in a scene like the one where some jewish cleric said that "the blame is on us" (it was cut from the theatrical version), some people will take that literally and act accordingly.
 
2005-02-11 10:43:52 AM  
"Perhaps you are wise enough to really look around and absorb the wonders of nature and life and all of the unexplained marvels that exist even with the simplest of creatures and know that there is something greater behind the scenes."

So... Where do those who practice other religions fall into your little respect-o-meter ? Does one need to simply acknowledge that some intelligent force is responsible for the world or do they have to buy your version of the story ?
 
2005-02-11 10:43:57 AM  
Considering that the history of the Passion Play was to stir up antagonism against the Jews during the Middle Ages, I think they kinda have a point.

That's a matter of opinion. But no matter what the history is, does that mean that the story can never be told ever again? The Egypians, the Germans, the Romans, the English, the Japanese and the Americans have all been malinged in recent movies but the Jews are untouchable? It's bad enough network tv news protects what they're doing now, we also can't make movies that record historical fact?

And why would a two-hour Aramaic snuff film get an Oscar nomination? This movie has very little to do with Jesus.

There was more to it than a snuff film. If you actually watched it, that was about less than half of it. At the very least it deserves acting and visual nominations. But no, the farking Aviator was genius.
 
2005-02-11 10:45:33 AM  
Mugato,

The ADL is hardly representative of all jews, just as nutjob fundies are not representative of all christians. The ADL website even states they do not think Mel Gibson is an anti-semite.
 
2005-02-11 10:47:51 AM  
Heh, Mel's a marketing genius. I smell another 200 million.

Even with a few minutes less violence, it's a terrible movie, even as Jesus movies go. I prefer movies that demostrate the power of love to movies that focus on his untimely death...

Enjoy your Friday flamewar!
 
2005-02-11 10:47:52 AM  
Gunther,
There is no controversy here, his own writings prove that.
 
2005-02-11 10:48:46 AM  
Mugato
To be fair, the Passion would have done better if it hadn't been released so long ago. Films released nearer to the oscars always do much better.
 
2005-02-11 10:50:21 AM  
allanhowles:Oh, and my vote for alternate title?
Good Friday the 13th.


HAHA, I like it! For this version: "Half of the Spatter, all of the guilt"? A spiritual diet, if you will.
 
2005-02-11 10:50:32 AM  
Mr Fabulous

YOU MUST BE GHEY!!!

When you burn in hell, just remember that I warned you!!

POLESMOKER!!!

VILE CRETIN!!

That is all. PERIOD.

/feels dirty inside...
 
2005-02-11 10:50:51 AM  
John 11:35.

That is all.
 
2005-02-11 10:50:59 AM  
That's too bad that Mel dumbed down the violence in the movie. I think the pain and suffering that we saw, even if it was intense, is what made everyone feel ultimate remorse for Jesus. Now it will be some watered down version in a collector's box DVD hardcase with special program book. And that sucks.
 
2005-02-11 10:51:03 AM  
Re: Tolerance levels are lower if tolerance is defined as anything is OK, there is no right or wrong. Most people wont accept that in words/communication, in their pet's behavior, or in science. Why should we accept it in our world view?

I don't think you need a religion to know that there should be consequences for all actions good or bad. Which in a fair society there mostly are? Work hard get a nice house, wife....
Fark up, go to jail
The golden Rule (treat others as you would have them treat you) unless they're Arse holes, is all we need.
Don't need to be told I'll burn in hell for eternity if God disapproves of my actions.
 
2005-02-11 10:51:34 AM  
barjockey
I'm speaking to the "I said it on Fark, therefore it is a concrete law of nature and the universe" crowd. The teachings of Jesus have been around a long time and have stood the test of time. Sure, people have corrupted and soiled the good faith of Chritianity on their own doing, but the teachings and the philosophies are still intact. Christians should not be judged as a whole by the actions of a few; nor should Christians judge others. That is God's job.

That sounds suspiciously reasonable. Is that allowed on Fark?


I'm not a Christian, in fact, I'd say:

ChronicMasturbator
Thinks there is One God for entire planet...

sounds more like any kind of god I believe in. Also thinks trying to assign anthromorphic personality traits to a 'thing' powerful enough to create universes is a bit silly... but I digress:

Doesn't mean the bible doesn't have good ideas in it. The way Jesus says you ought to treat other people seem like a good collection of ideas?

Still, on topic, thought this film was rubbish. Waste of the bandwidth used to download it.
 
2005-02-11 10:52:32 AM  
Great. Now if he could speed up all the slow-motion into real-time we might have a palatable 1/2 hour special that wouldn't make me want to gouge my eyes out.

btw kendi823 it never says anywhere that Jesus was tortured beyond recognition. I would be suprised if more than a total 50 words were used to describe the torture that was done to him.
 
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