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(Sun Herald)   Newagers using the ancient ritual of "smudging," using sage smoke to drive away disembodied spirits   ( sunherald.com) divider line
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2005-01-08 10:22:35 AM  
No matter how stupid something is, you'll always be able to find someone dumb enough to part with money for it.
2005-01-08 10:24:09 AM  
I would have just called the Ghostbusters, personally.
2005-01-08 10:24:57 AM  
My first night in my dorm room I beat off before I went to bed (my room mate wasn't there). Is that the same thing? If so, it would make sense, because any female that ever came to my room kind of acted like the dog in this story... hesitating to come in... masturbational energy waves radiating through the air or something.
2005-01-08 10:25:26 AM  
Personally, I don't use it to drive away spirits...why waste it on dead people? :)
2005-01-08 10:28:26 AM  
I can't imagine what I'm missing on TotalFark.
2005-01-08 10:31:55 AM  
Sage Smudging. All that reminds me of is Dead Show parking lots, and pachouli. *shudder* loved the music, hated the scent....
2005-01-08 10:32:58 AM  
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"Yes Bob, New Agers are Dumbasses."
2005-01-08 10:33:21 AM  
Eastern philosophies my ass. In college there was a native studies class and once a day (or week, don't remember) they would do a smudging ceremony with sage. It is one of their sacred plants. Made the whole campus smell like pot. We went to it one day because all the students were wondering why the Indians got to smoke so much pot at school. It was kind of neat.
2005-01-08 10:33:48 AM  
When your done could you kindly "smudge" the disembodied spirit of evil pooh's past from my restroom?
2005-01-08 10:35:01 AM  
This sounds like a decent racket to set up. Cheap to start, maybe put an ad on Craig's List, get some incense sticks and candles and maybe some Zamphir CDs. Charge $250 for a "cleansing" and walk around someone's house for an hour stinking it up.

2005-01-08 10:35:25 AM  
my hippy mom used to do that. drove me absolutely nuts. what's worse, is she'd do that, forget, and then claim that i was smoking pot (i was straightedge at the time).
2005-01-08 10:36:07 AM  
I hope smudged sage causes brain cancer.
2005-01-08 10:37:50 AM  
There are still new agers? That's so old-school.
2005-01-08 10:38:18 AM  
wrong tag on this one, needs a stupid or dumbass tag.
2005-01-08 10:39:54 AM  
Just hang a Shell "No Ghost" strip in each room and you're all set. And they last up to three months.
2005-01-08 10:41:46 AM  
Burning sage smells bad enough to drive away the living, as well.
2005-01-08 10:47:05 AM  
All I have to say is...

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2005-01-08 10:47:29 AM  
Why is this news?

/waiting for ground breaking article exposing the Catholics' use of a ceremony called "Communion"- I hear those people actually get to drink wine in church!
2005-01-08 10:49:05 AM  
It also drives away flies, mosquitos, people, etc.

You'd be surprised how many things smoke will drive away.

-doesn't believe in ghosts
2005-01-08 10:52:06 AM  
New Agers have been doing this for ages. Back about 10 years, a Native American group actually started campaigning against New Agers and Wiccans because they felt that their "shamanic heritage" was being robbed. In part, they were kinda right, but they took it too far - they started claiming that they were essentially the only shamanic culture in North America, and anyone else claiming to be such were just stealing from the red man. Nevermind that most European cultures were shamanic if you go back far enough. *shrug* Dumbasses all around, if you ask me.
2005-01-08 10:56:06 AM  
I see our red-necked friends are keen to have a say today! Ten little words: Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's bad.

/Shut the fark up, cracker!
2005-01-08 10:56:44 AM  
Farking moonbats!
2005-01-08 11:00:31 AM  
I know some cultists who believe in transubstantiation, resurrection and apocalypse.

2005-01-08 11:02:18 AM  
Thrap - I see our red-necked friends are keen to have a say today! Ten little words: Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's bad.

But it does mean we can still make fun of it. Right?
2005-01-08 11:06:19 AM  
I've done this before. In my underpants. Oh, not THAT kind of smudging. Sorry!
2005-01-08 11:07:47 AM  
Ten little words: Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's bad.

Thank goodness he gave us a word count, I would have been lost otherwise.
2005-01-08 11:09:16 AM  

The genus name 'Salvia' is derived from the Latin 'Salvare', to be saved, an ancient reference to Sage's curative abilities. The following saying from the Middle Ages also suggests the importance of Sage's healing properties:

"Why should a man die while sage grows in his garden?"!

From at least as far back as the Middle Ages, Sage has been documented as a 'cure-all' with references to longevity in folk medicine.

Commercially, Sage has always been very popular for culinary use, with its very strong, distinctive taste and aroma. In more recent years Sage has become increasingly popular for its therapeutic use, especially with symptoms associated with the menopause.

Research has suggested that the presence of volatile oil in Sage is largely responsible for most of its therapeutic properties, especially its antiseptic, astringent and relaxing actions. This also gives Sage an oestrogenic action which is partly responsible for hormonal effects, such as reducing breast-milk production.

In Chinese medicine, Sage is a 'Yin' (female) tonic with a reputation for supporting the Nervous System.

Like all aromatic/culinary herbs, Sage can soothe the Digestive Tract.

HORMONES - Red Sage can;
* Improve irregular and scanty periods
* Promote stronger menstrual flow
* Reduce sweating, especially during the menopause
* Reduce hot flushes and generally help the body to adjust to
hormonal changes

* Relieves sore throats, taken internally and used as a very
effective gargle
* Encourages the healing process, especially for mouth ulcers,
sore gums and external wounds in general
* Aids digestion. Sage acts as a digestive tonic helping to
stimulate or soothe the Digestive Tract
* As a Nerve tonic, helps to both calm and stimulate the
Nervous System
* Is useful for stings and bites, especially if the fresh
leaves are rubbed onto the affected area
* Was traditionally used to help asthma; the dried leaves are
often used in herbal smoking mixtures
* Can alleviate mild diarrhoea, because of its astringent
(drying) properties

Source: http://www.alternative-healthzine.com
2005-01-08 11:13:27 AM  
Move on, nothing to see here...

Honestly, this isn't about "newagers" this is something that has been practiced for centuries if not longer.

This practice has a very long history and has nothing to do with modern life.
2005-01-08 11:18:03 AM  
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2005-01-08 11:26:31 AM  
The crystals and the magnets didn't work?!!
2005-01-08 11:30:22 AM  
Stupid or not, it smells pretty good.
2005-01-08 11:33:02 AM  
So is this where the term censured came from?

2005-01-08 11:36:21 AM  
new agers have been doing this crap for decades. and really, who farkin' cares what they do, as long as they would just shut up about it at thanksgiving dinner, please. that goes the same for you christians, who seem to think that drinking blood and eating the body of christ is somehow less kooky. *rolls eyes*
2005-01-08 11:37:45 AM  
By far my favorite member of the sage family would have to be Salvia divinorum. "Man everything looks the same....but weiiiird..."
2005-01-08 11:38:08 AM  
How is this any sort of news? At least here in Canada, natives have been practicing the smudging ritual for generations. While I don't place any value on it myself, who am I to say that their beliefs have no alternative value. As Darth said, there are other beliefs elsewhere, just as funky or worse.
2005-01-08 11:38:22 AM  
Oh yes, all of us rednecks are too ignorant to understand the deep mystical significance of this ceremony. We just thought it was something silly, pretentious hippies did.
2005-01-08 11:41:04 AM  
Yeah, I've done this. Still don't know why it's news. Don't do it when anyone else is around. Don't talk about it, particularly. If it works, neat, if it doesn't, big whoop.

No pot, though.
2005-01-08 11:42:18 AM  
My AP Calculus teacher in high school was an eccentric person. She was a vegan, and the week before the AP exam, she took us on a weekend long vacation to an indian preservation in the North GA mountains to clear our minds before the exam and just relax. While we were there, we had our auras read and our souls purified with said sage. Funny thing was, one of the chaperone parents had her doubts about the legality of the stuff being smoked because it sure did smell like the sticky icky icky.

//my $0.02
2005-01-08 11:43:06 AM  
"New Agers" may have been doing this "crap" for decades - but the ancient Native Americans and even the Pagans did this centuries before the "New Ager" even existed.

I don't care what ANYONE in this thread says - I personally believe that smudging with sage does actually clense out evil spirits.

/didn't read the article
//thought this thread needed someone besides a redneck to comment on a subject such as this
2005-01-08 11:45:10 AM  
Ten little words: Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's bad.

It also doesn't mean that it's anything more than sugar pills for the easily fooled.
2005-01-08 11:47:15 AM  
You guys must be living in a hole. Sage does NOT smell like marijuana.
2005-01-08 11:48:57 AM  
Honestly, most rednecks I know are quite eager to find new ways to fark themselves up, mentally and/or physically. It's a long and hallowed tradition that I am proud to have taken part in more than once.

/jim beam and fourwheelers
2005-01-08 11:51:34 AM  
/bangs head up against wall
//smudges himself
///with SAGE!
2005-01-08 11:54:24 AM  
Is it ash wednesday already?
2005-01-08 11:55:14 AM  
In Canada it's very popular actually. There are 3 smudge bars downtown. They've taken to smudging ice rinks to keep the freezer burn down. Vets' are finding smudge remedies are good for anxious pets.
2005-01-08 12:21:08 PM  
My wife does this at home and it drives me up a freakin wall. I like the smell of sage, just not in the quanitity she believes is required to 'smudge' the house.

The joys of married life I suppose.
2005-01-08 12:26:19 PM  
Ah, Salvia divinorum. The extract was kinda nuts, for all of two minutes. Like a little two minute vacation. Odd.
//Sweating profusly, lying on floor
2005-01-08 12:28:22 PM  
Wow, I love idiots.
2005-01-08 12:33:52 PM  
I don't care what ANYONE in this thread says - I personally believe that smudging with sage does actually clense out evil spirits.

And.... you're an idiot. I love you.
2005-01-08 12:35:13 PM  
Everywhere you look, there's a rise in superstition and mythology.

/Hoping it's just a fad
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