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2004-12-31 03:54:41 PM  
Brockway -

That's really the most aggravating thing isn't it? Many people turn charity into an excuse to thump their chest and crow about how they "gave till' it hurt" when they drop their $10 into the pot. Whereas the rich guy down the street gives $10,000 and helps 1000x the people than your $10 did. If I was faced with having to rebuild my entire village like parts of Sri Lanka or Thailand, I'd smile nicely and shed the obligatary tear for the cameras when Mrs. Johnson's 3rd grade class sent me all of their pennies, but then I'd use Bill Gates' $100 million to go get some real work done.
2004-12-31 03:54:44 PM  
geosprint: How much is Bushies inagaural party??

just about the same kerrys would have costed.
2004-12-31 03:54:55 PM  
Z. Brannigan What I'm saying is that there are people who need our help at home just as bad as those people over there.

This administration quickly found $3 billion (9x $350 million) for Florida hurricane repairs, with, what, a couple dozen deaths? Of course, it had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Florida was a swing state in the then-upcoming elections

/not saying Florida didn't need or deserve the money, but let's look at things in proportion.

falser So if this money is coming out of my tax dollars without my permission shouldn't that mean I don't have to donate anything further?

Riiight. Just go on telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. No way you could possibly afford even $20 and two minutes of your time at www.redcross.org.
2004-12-31 03:55:24 PM  
Dear Chelsie, I give a rats rear how much any president's party was. It is a waste as are presidential libraries. Or as they are know as private masturbatoriums.
2004-12-31 03:55:25 PM  
helix400, I was studying the F-22 Raptor in school, and just a month or so ago, the government was saying that they're giving an additional some million dollars to the construction of more F-22 Raptors.. now they are cutting? They need to make up their minds..

regardless.. IMO, I think that we help now because we feel like we NEED to. Do you know how many more countries would be hating us right now if we didn't help?
2004-12-31 03:56:27 PM  
Ha! Why not say 350 billion? They won't actually see 5% of that money. But there'll be a new Hummer in the parking lot of every bureaucrat it passes through.
2004-12-31 03:56:50 PM  
Do you know how many more countries would be hating us right now if we didn't help?

Not like it matters anyways.. we're still hated even when we do give aid. YAY!
2004-12-31 03:56:55 PM  
There's nothing like total shame in the eyes of history to make you open your pocket book.
2004-12-31 03:57:17 PM  
The funding is defo needed, I dont seriously think any of us can imagine what a disaster like that would be like unless weve been there, these pics scare the hell out of me...

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Before and after...scary....

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2004-12-31 03:58:02 PM  

Do you really think the money we're spending in Iraq operations just _evaporates_ or something? News flash: it's spent here, to employ people, predominantly in high-tech and manufacturing sectors. Sounds like anyone you know?
2004-12-31 03:58:17 PM  
GoodDamon: Actually, the F-22 Raptor would guarantee the United States air dominance for the next 40 years. I still think they're far too expensive to build, though.
2004-12-31 03:58:33 PM  
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Fix our problems first.
2004-12-31 03:59:44 PM  
Good stuff.
2004-12-31 03:59:50 PM  
This is not a good thing. It invariably won't get to the right places to do much good, and is just another drain on our collective checkbook.

/Against spending here AND in Iraq
//Continues to respect India for taking responsibility for their own misfortunes
2004-12-31 04:00:27 PM  
Actually djh01010 it does evaporate you know like klablooey. Along with a bunch of innocent folks. But the war industry is eating and sleeping well. Thats what really counts.
2004-12-31 04:00:43 PM  
Great story, Woooo Hooooo!

/Headline? not so much.
2004-12-31 04:01:41 PM  
Hurray for flamewars! Happy New Year, everybody.
2004-12-31 04:01:54 PM  

There's nothing like total shame in the eyes of history to make you open your pocket book.

yeah it's a damn shame that they didnt have a tsunami warning system

yeah it's a damn shame that in the 3 hours it took the tsunami to reach sri lanka and india no one dropped a dime into a payphone to say "hey. look out"

yeah it's a damn shame that people are making such a big deal about how much $$$ the US is donating.

yeah it's a damn shame rice costs much much less than bullets.

yeah it's a damn shame that the money spent on the war in iraq is diproportionate to the money donated to the tsunami relief but then again the tsunami just happened and the war in iraq has been ongoing for some time. lets see what the tsunami relief $$$ will be in a year and a half.
2004-12-31 04:04:01 PM  
cokedupwerewolf: if you think this is a flamewar, you obviously haven't been to fark for a while!
2004-12-31 04:04:07 PM  
Geosprint, are you saying that you really do think the money we're spending on the Iraq war doesn't stimulate the US's economy? Could you perhaps explain what you think happens to it then? I mean, emotionalism and bullshiat aside, where do you think that money goes?

Please compare and contrast this with writing a check for a third of a billion dollars which _will_ get spent elsewhere. Show your work.
2004-12-31 04:04:50 PM  
U.S. capitulates to U.N. pressure!?!

Holy crap, say goodbye to 2004!
2004-12-31 04:04:51 PM  
Radioactive Ass
Why did I know before I opened this link that now that the US government has applied more relief, people will complain that it's too much.

Only Americans, friend, only Americans.

For the last day or two I was immensely proud of the fact that Britain (both the government and the people) had contributed far more than you guys - and I guess I stated the fact over and over again until you were all pretty pissed off about it.

Well, good job, American government.
2004-12-31 04:04:57 PM  
Why aren't the vast multitudes of Democrat Hollywood donating their millions of dollars? These people live 100 times more lavishly than Bush or any politician (with the exception of John Kerry) does. These people are so much better than Middle America, as they so often point out. But I guess I wouldn't want to take away Cher's gold plated toliet
2004-12-31 04:05:19 PM  
it is not the job of our elected government to help foreign nations in 'liberation' or 'salvation'. if the american people want to help another country they need to do it on an individual level. of cource in my world taxes would be significantly less and socialism next to dead.

/crazed libertarian
2004-12-31 04:05:28 PM  
I hear people complaining about where is this coming from and it could be better spent here at home. This is true. But the thing is to most of us Farkers 350 million dollars is a lot of money, but the the federal government its pocket change. They can find that money between the couch cushions in the National Treasurey's break room.
2004-12-31 04:05:31 PM  
Dear America,

We hate you. Now give us all your money, you pricks!
2004-12-31 04:05:50 PM  
Well, if we pay it out the same way New York got its 9-11 money, the tsunami victims will get $35 over the next 3 years, and every town in Alabama will have a solid gold tsunami deflector built outside of town before the ball drops in Times Square this evening.

/And Bush will be photographed hugging a Sri Lankan who is against gay marriage.
/I keed. they'll really get $40
2004-12-31 04:05:51 PM  
"We have to spend a great deal more than that. We should have been eagerly telling that part of the word, especially the Muslim part of that world, that we here in America are generous, a good people"

So basically he's saying the US should have lied?
2004-12-31 04:05:59 PM  
"US increases tsunami aid from $35 million to $350 million"

"In other news, Halliburton awarded contract to deliver tsunami aid"
2004-12-31 04:06:12 PM  
twoody [TotalFark]

Veni Vidi Vici:

Don't know if it's been said yet, but this area of the world is largely Muslim. I wonder how that plays on either side.

Indonesia is the only predominantly Muslim country hit by the Tsunami. (Although Bangladesh is an Islamic country, they had few casualties), and their brand of Islam is different than the Islam of the middle east, so I'm not completely sure if I understand your point.

The bulk of the remaining countries, ie: India, Sri Lanka, and Thailand are predominantly Hindu and Buddhist.

/not flaming, just trying to understand.

Wasn't the Islamofacist bombing of the Australians a couple of years ago, carried out and perpetrated by Indonesian extremists?
Seems to me, Indonesia (at least the extremist part) is part of the greater Al-Qaeda organization, and supports the overthrow of more moderate Muslim states.

/not trolling, but I'm sure someone will pick up the ball and try and make this burst into flame.
2004-12-31 04:07:33 PM  
For all of you ingnorant people saying that we need to fix our problems in the U.S. first.....I agree.

The problem is that we have hundreds of social programs and assistance available and too many people are either unaware or unwilling to accept them. I am not saying that all the homeless and hungry people in the U.S. chose to be that way. But when you compare our standard of living with the rest of the world, those people are the SMALL minority and not the vast majority, as in this disaster.

Comparing the homeless in the U.S with entire villages being wiped out by a tsunami is inaccurate and immature.
2004-12-31 04:07:34 PM  
2004-12-31 03:49:05 PM Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin
geosprint: How much is Bushies inagaural party??

less than clinton's was.

While I realize that the neocon habit of whining and biatching without facts or research seems pretty cool-afterall, Limbaugh's been doing it for years-sometimes you really should think before you open your stupid mouth.

But just because I know you wouldn't actually try to find facts that contridict your fantasy hateworld, let me help you.

Clinton 1997 $29.6 million
Bush 2005 $40 million
2004-12-31 04:08:12 PM  

Eh, I'm banking it'll get a bit more exciting than this. Bust out the popcorn and shahm-pahn-ya!
2004-12-31 04:09:39 PM  
WoodyHayes: Ah yes, everybody loves America when they need her help.

you know, that money comes from your tax dollars and the foreign investors who put money in america's economy.

without them you wouldn't have all that cash. now, care to help them?
2004-12-31 04:09:52 PM  
The psychotic righties have started the New Year's Eve drinkin' a bit early, I perceive. Knees are jerking even higher than usual today.
2004-12-31 04:10:01 PM  
Can I just get $4,000 of that to pay off my loans?

Seems to be easily handed around these days, thought I could get a handful in it.

/regardless, yay donations
2004-12-31 04:10:29 PM  
So the Bush Administration can be shamed into doing stuff... hmm, interesting...

I have a sneaking suspicion that after the January elections in Iraq we will declare victory and pull out, leaving the poor Iraqis to their own devices. Things didn't turn out the way Georgieboy expected and since he has the attention span of a goldfish where unpleasant realities are concerned, he's probably looking for a more direct way to transfer taxpayer dollars directly into the pockets of Halliburton executives.

20 or 30 years from now, when the truth comes out about the stolen elections of 2000 and 2004, the gutting of Social Security, the mishandling of the economy, the attacks on the environment, the payoff to the wealthy and the attempt to make the US into a Christian theocracy, historians will look back at this period and wonder how anyone could have been so naive as to support George Bush.
2004-12-31 04:10:36 PM  
How convenient for us to give money when news stories start coming out about how people are upset that we didn't give more. This isn't really about helping people right now, this is about making ourselves look better in the eyes of the world.

Also, I fnd it interesting that we can suddenly spare an extra $315 million to further our image, yet can't spare a dime to fix social security, or any number of the other failed policies.
2004-12-31 04:11:02 PM  
-The war in Iraq is costing close to $6 BILLION A MONTH...

-In case anyone was wondering...
2004-12-31 04:11:04 PM  
Why aren't the vast multitudes of Democrat Hollywood donating their millions of dollars? These people live 100 times more lavishly than Bush or any politician (with the exception of John Kerry) does. These people are so much better than Middle America, as they so often point out. But I guess I wouldn't want to take away Cher's gold plated toliet

Very, very good point. Shame the bastards into it - pressurise them into giving up one or two percent of their next fee.

Same with your obscenely overpaid sportsmen and women. Over here, even the pampered ponces from the Premier League (soccer) have given a million pounds to the relief fund - and that's just down to the fact that public image is everything.
2004-12-31 04:11:08 PM  
Man i wish i wasn't so damn lazy to do a compare of the people biatching about us spending this money with the same people from the last thread who were biatching we were not spending enough.....
2004-12-31 04:12:07 PM  

/Sri Lankan
/On behalf of my nation.
2004-12-31 04:12:29 PM  

I'm a lefty. I donated. This is not about US partisan politics.
2004-12-31 04:12:33 PM  
Hey Everyone Have a happy new year.

"just wanted to get a post in early, before it goes balistic like yeaterdays"

2004-12-31 04:12:34 PM  

Why aren't the vast multitudes of Democrat Hollywood donating their millions of dollars? These people live 100 times more lavishly than Bush or any politician (with the exception of John Kerry) does. These people are so much better than Middle America, as they so often point out. But I guess I wouldn't want to take away Cher's gold plated toliet

How did you find out that Hollywood people are not donating anything?
2004-12-31 04:13:45 PM  
We have more than enough homeless shelters and soup kitchens in America to handle homeless people.

I worked in a homeless shelter over the summer and everyone who was in there was in there temporarily, either having lost their home in an unfortunate accident or just getting out of prison and making the transition.

The kicker is that homeless shelters do *NOT* allow drugs or alcohol to be consumed by their residents, so alcoholics and junkies and people who steal from the other residents are not allowed to stay there if they keep farking up. IMO if you are a street person then it is almost certainly your fault.
2004-12-31 04:13:45 PM  

-For some people everything is about partisan politics...
2004-12-31 04:14:36 PM  
How much are our neighbors to the north giving? 33 million USD. Pathetic Canada!
2004-12-31 04:14:44 PM  
The only good thing that came out of the Marshall Plan was keeping Western Europe out of Soviet economic domination. France loved America so much that they withdrew from NATO in 60's, but I'm sure someone will find a way to blame that on the Bush family too. Reagan putting missles in West Germany didn't exactly meet with European approval either. And these were America's closest friends!
2004-12-31 04:15:47 PM  
People are wasting electrons by dragging Bush's innaguaration into this discussion? Who cares? It's private donations. Let them buy $40 million worth of coke and snort it off the asses of naked African pygmies for all I care, it's private money. Should we open up MTv's "Cribs" vault and shame all the celebs who spend millions on their house? How about shaming all of the people on "Pimp My Ride" after they drop thousands into some slobs ghetto bucket? Walk through your house and tell me everything you have is an absolute necessity for your survival. My, aren't you ashamed?
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