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2004-12-27 01:15:42 PM  
27 percent of the {food}available for consumption -- were lost at the retail, consumer and food-service levels.

That's sad with all hungry and money we spend for school lunchs, food stamps, etc.
2004-12-27 01:39:24 PM  
freegans = parasites
2004-12-27 01:50:46 PM  
Why would I want to risk disease from some stranger?
2004-12-27 02:05:14 PM  
"Being freegan is one way in which we are living a life that is consistent with the kind of world that we want to create," said Adam Weissman, 26, of Hackensack. "In terms of people having ownership of their lives and in terms of consuming in a way that is not destroying the planet."

In other words, this is our cry for attention, but we feel better about it if we say we're making a statement.
2004-12-27 02:15:59 PM  
At 26 farking years old on top of it. Grow the fark up.
2004-12-27 02:18:20 PM  
I can't decide if this is more or less stupid than the breatharians.
2004-12-27 02:35:24 PM  
"In terms of people having ownership of their lives and in terms of consuming in a way that is not destroying the planet."

ITYM "In terms of consuming in a way that doesn't cost anything."
2004-12-27 02:35:42 PM  
When did "freegan" come to mean "dumpster-diver"? I always thought freegan was when vegans eat food that is free and would otherwise get thrown out, like leftover food from a party.

Not that I'm dissing dumpster-diving. I've heard the dumpsters behind any Whole Foods market are good for these purposes--day old bakery goods thrown out in plastic bags and such. I've never done it--I'd rather pay the premium for fresh food.
2004-12-27 02:42:13 PM  
mystereys: I'd rather pay the premium for fresh food.

I'd rather pay for food that doesn't come out of a dumpster.
2004-12-27 02:51:57 PM  
I don't get the concept. If they're trying to prevent the food from being wasted, why not buy it before it lands in the dumpster?

Its essentially the same thing!
2004-12-27 03:40:01 PM  
BUMS, they are called "bums"!
2004-12-27 03:41:14 PM  
"For our date tonight, my sweet blossom, we shall enjoy the fine cuisine of Chez Francois ... well, actually the leftovers in the dumpster. Hello? Babe?" *click*

2004-12-27 03:41:28 PM  
"I use my senses more than anything else, and I find that 98 to 99 percent of the time it tends to be good," Weissman, a former security guard, said of the food.
What does E Coli smell like?

2004-12-27 03:41:33 PM  
I certainly hope that they're donating the money that they're saving on food bills to some program to feed starving people.

Otherwise, there's absolutely no logical point in this.
2004-12-27 03:43:15 PM  
I'm a Level 5 Freegan. I don't eat anything out of a dumpster that casts a shadow.
2004-12-27 03:45:03 PM  
Once something is placed in the trash it becomes public property. Thats why police dont need a warrant to search your trash once its on the curb. I guess it doesnt apply to businesses though.
2004-12-27 03:47:25 PM  
I think I'll one up them all by putting a sign next to my trash cans reading "All You Can Eat Buffet: $1".

/no free lunches, even if they're simmering in garbage water
2004-12-27 03:47:31 PM  
F42 , let me help your post with a visual...

"Freegans? They have another word for those people: BUMS, they are called "bums"!"
[image from brightlightsfilm.com too old to be available]
BTW, I'm a Butterfacegan, a person who will fark the girls that you Farkers kick to the curb.

2004-12-27 03:47:59 PM  
freegan = bum

deal with it.
2004-12-27 03:48:01 PM  
ChloraSkeptic - In New Hampshire, the popo's need a warrant to search you trash on the curb. It was a recent NHSC ruling when the cops rooted through his trash on the curb and found he had, in the trash, all the fixings of a massive indoor marijuana growing operation. his case was dismissed and I believe he sued the cops afterwards.

/positive side of Live Free or Die
2004-12-27 03:50:20 PM  
Ho-Ho-Kus, New Jersey?

/Id probably eat out of a friggin dumpster if I lived in a place named Ho-Ho-Kus, also.
2004-12-27 03:50:40 PM  
We call those homeless people here in the South.

Them Yankee folks is strange.
2004-12-27 03:51:50 PM  
damned hippies.....
2004-12-27 03:52:53 PM  

I'm a Level 5 Freegan. I don't eat anything out of a dumpster that casts a shadow.

Ahh, you beat me too it.
2004-12-27 03:53:23 PM  
So lemmie get this straight. You find yourself in the kitchen. You see an eclair in the receptacle. And you think to yourself, "What the hell, I'll just eat some trash."

[image from terrifictickets.com too old to be available]
2004-12-27 03:55:04 PM  
"Weissman, a former security guard..." How farked up do you have to be to hire THIS guy? I can see it now, at his job interview:

Q: "Do you have any hobbies?"

A: "I like to surf, jog and eat food that I find in dumpsters."

"Uhhhhh, thanks. We'll call you."
2004-12-27 03:58:49 PM  
adjacent to refuse is refuse!

I admire their....message?
But that's just stupid.

When I was a kid, I worked at McDonalds. I hated how at 10:30, they would take the breakfast food and thow it in the garbage. WE weren't even allowed to eat it. Hated that.
2004-12-27 04:02:24 PM  
Although, once in college I experimented with how cheap I could for lunches for a whole week.

All I spent was 25 cents to buy some guy's frozen diner (one microwave, hell of a lineup). I ate it frozen, much to the disgust of the witnesses.

The rest of the week I lived off my friend's leftovers. That was a fun, disguting, cheap week : )
2004-12-27 04:02:46 PM  
The Bruegers near my house (and I would assume all others) throws out all bagels unsold after two days. They're all wrapped in bags of 6 so they are clean and are delicious when toasted. An excellent breakfast for those on a budget.
2004-12-27 04:06:44 PM  
they injure no one. the US is gluttonous and wasteful. reduction of that is good. this only bothers people who cannot stand any perceived slight to American consumerism, and those who resent people who might not want to conform.

/loved Ringolevio
//like the idea of the diggers
2004-12-27 04:08:03 PM  
I've worked in many restaurants back in the day, and seen plenty of leftover food eaten off plates. Which is mostly gross, but not even comparable to eating the same leftover food, after it has been in the trash.

Especially, since I've seen what kind of chemicals and god knows what else come in contact with that seemingly OK looking food.
2004-12-27 04:08:57 PM  
Somebody delete my account.

Fark is peopled by coonts.
2004-12-27 04:09:02 PM  
WTF! Since when did kids self ascribe the term "Freegan" This has always been an insult for someone who sells out their vegan, animal rights concerns for a free hamburger.

In Philly you are not freegan, you a dirty crust punk (or squater) who claims to be too poor to buy food but instead spend your money on 40's and a mangy dog who suffers when you bring him to shows and cant feed him or care for his health. The best part is that you were problem born in the suburbs and have done nothing to help those truly in need throughout the city.

I am SOOO tired of these people. Somehow they are making a difference by dumpster diving and spending their days getting drunk or high. This is not leading by example or helping others, it is pure selfishness.
2004-12-27 04:10:09 PM  
mystereys - I call myself a freegan (actually wrote a piece on it for my 'zine (online version available at http://www.neufutur.com/Rants/freegan.html) and to not actually take whatever food is from the trash, regardless of being meat/cheese/whatever, is to not be a true vegan. To let good food not be eaten is an atrocity. I know it is a slippery slope argument, but if there is a pristine piece of pork or something just sitting there - I'm going to grab it.

I haven't gotten to the point where I can just eat off what John R. Doe has eaten, but there is more than enough whole food to snag.

The online version of my zine.
2004-12-27 04:11:01 PM  
I meant to write probably, not problem, but it hits the mark.
2004-12-27 04:11:05 PM  
2004-12-27 04:11:57 PM  
ChloraSkeptic - Trash located on your private property is still your property. The reason the cops don't need a warrant (to search trash cans or bags placed on your curb for pickup) is because the Supreme Court has held that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy under the 4th Amendment in that trash (California v. Greenwood). The cops would still need a warrant (or at least probable cause) to search the same cans or bags located in your garage or behind your house.

The New Hampshire state constitution apparently offers broader protection in this regard than the U.S. Constitution.

Dumpster divers are still liable for trespass, if they are on private property.
2004-12-27 04:12:01 PM  
There's a difference between dumpster-diving (more commonly known as skipping in the UK) and freeganism. Freegans generally won't buy animal products, but will eat them if they'd be wasted otherwise.

Why do people object to this? If you're living on limited means, skipping is an easy way to get perfectly good food that would otherwise be wasted. Going to market stalls as they're packing up at the end of the day and asking for anything that will be discarded is even better.
2004-12-27 04:12:01 PM  
Pluck.. teehee.

[image from pluck.com too old to be available]

/got nothin.
2004-12-27 04:12:51 PM  
Get over yourselves, people. What these kids are doing is great!

/been diving since i was a kid
//full time network operations tech
2004-12-27 04:14:09 PM  
"My parents don't like it so much; they refuse to eat it," said Matt Pulgrano, 19, of Ho-Ho-Kus, N.J. "I can't keep it in the house, I have to keep it in the garage freezer."

I've got an idea, keep eating your parents food for free, you douche and save the gas you've been using to drive your farkin Hummer on your dumpster route. Or how about jamming your own head up you ass and then you'll be self-sufficient.

Maybe this idiot is just scarred because he had to grow up in a place named after a snack cake.

farkin New Jersey
2004-12-27 04:14:23 PM  
Did they ever consider talking to the stores throwing food out? Maybe they can donate the day old baked goods to homeless shelters. I know of a few bakeries in my area that do that. This alone helps no one, but does bring awareness to the fact that maybe some food is going to waste.
2004-12-27 04:15:00 PM  
Okay. Some clarification for you guys who care (most likely, none of you, that's cool you can skip this post):

The term freegan is used incorrectly here. A person who is "Freegan" is a vegan who chooses to protest the use of animals in foods by not buying items which have animals in them. So, if you're just gonna throw that cheese pizza out, send it their way. By not purchasing anything, they are not creating more demand, and thus, are "voting with their dollars" (despite the fact that many of them have very few dollars to vote with). Not my cup of tea, but you've gotta respect them.

These people are dumpster divers. They seek to curb their own waste production by using the waste of others. Think of it like recycling. Some do it for food, some for treasure, and some just for fun. Personally, I'd never eat anything from a dumpster that wasn't sealed, but I've had friends who will (and have), and they've never gotten sick because of it. It really is about common sense.

And I've studied my biology, so I know that Ecoli (which when infesting water, actually does have a faint scent) is more likely to flourish in a kitchen than out in the elements any day.

Call me a bum for jumping in trash if you like, but I put on my suit and tie and go to work each morning like the rest of you. And yes I always make sure I've showered :)

Thanks for listening.

2004-12-27 04:15:44 PM  
CruJones - People generally only take raw, whole fruit and vegetables or stuff still in undamaged packaging. Its not rubbish from people's plates.
2004-12-27 04:17:24 PM  
I'm a freegan of sorts: I make my own electricity, I refuse to buy power, I refuse to accept any form of charity, and when the City tried to revnovate my house for free, I replied I would prosecute them in criminal court.

I refuse to work because I see no need, and make a pretty good living as an urban survivalist; own my own land, enjoy all the comforts of an easy lifestyle without having to exert myself. Actually, my idleness has a twofold statement to make: I see no reason to support a government which has no respect for me with my labor or my taxes, and I see no reason to take orders from someone who is scarcely fit to scrub my toilet bowl on the finest day he has ever seen in his life.

Or to be more blunt: why work if you don't need the money?

It comes down to a matter of justified existence: people who serve no function demand to make work for themselves, and usually get underfoot in the process. Cops, bureaucrats and private-sector do-gooders fall into this category. By refusing to accept their services, I not only tell them they are supurfluous---I prove it to them, and rub their nose in it.

You can get all you want to eat in this country, merely by asking for food stamps; by refusing to do so, the freegans are saying in effect: "We don't need you, your charity, or anything else you have to offer. Eff off!"

America is the only place where poor people are fat; yet every time you turn on the radio, you hear another commercial about donating to feed the hungry; bullsh*t. America is the only place where beggars beg for meat, and they not only want it cooked, they want it served to them, and the mess cleaned up after.

When was the last time you saw a hobo in a vegetable garden?

I am currently working on a real sockdolager of a project: I intend to steal a house, by finding an abandoned place, moving in, and paying the back taxes so as to create a homestead claim to the property. If successful, I will be able to live there free for life.

No rent;
No taxes;
No job;
No responsibility;
No shortage of any of life's necessities.

----------- Sounds like a plan to me.
2004-12-27 04:17:35 PM  
Damn! I never new the bums in the alley behind my place were so progressive.

/NYC homeless have been doing this for centuries, and now some hippies do it and it's all the rage.
2004-12-27 04:18:51 PM  

When I was a kid, I worked at McDonalds. I hated how at 10:30, they would take the breakfast food and thow it in the garbage

Waste Not
2004-12-27 04:19:22 PM  
Trashed food is less a product of Western capitalism and more a product of health and safety. I'm sure McDonalds would love to save that McMuffin to sell you another day, but the health inspector won't let them.

On the other hand a place like Starbucks is a purely capitalist place. A made to order product like coffee that doesn't go bad as fast leads to little waste other than the paper cups while the "status" of it leads to crazy high prices. But will a freegan recycle those paper cups?

I hate hippies, but this seems alright (if dangerously unhealthy). Society could use some dust mites to consume the crap at the bottom.
2004-12-27 04:19:47 PM  
So, are the opposite of a freegans called a paygans?
2004-12-27 04:20:16 PM  
So I take from your thread you are a dumpster diver a20sidedninja... out of curiousity why don't you just start compost bins or something along those lines instead of *eating* whats in the dumpsters... is it some sort of personal gratification or something...

/just curious
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