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(KTLA Los Angeles)   Don't you hate it when you're peacefully squatting in a vacant business, and some woman breaks into a nearby Papa John's and creates a ruckus that leads to your arrest?   (ktla.com) divider line
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jtown
2023-03-18 5:09:44 PM  
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Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 5:20:16 PM  
Dude, either leave when you first hear the sirens, or don't leave at all.
 
DiDGr8 [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 5:23:30 PM  
How is breaking into Papa Johns and vandalizing it "burglary"?

/And "squatting" is what the other guy is charged with?
//Mayhaps the "journalism" in this article leaves something to be desired.
///Either that or cops just pull charges out of a hat (or somewhere else).
 
Eunice's Social Calendar [recently expired TotalFark]
2023-03-18 5:25:11 PM  
pizza has never been the same?
 
Exhume me for National Pop Goes the Weasel Day
2023-03-18 5:27:06 PM  
I don't understand why the cops arrested the squatter in this case and not the many other cases of squatters in homes. In those cases it is always a civil mater. Because it was a vacant business? Or maybe just cop logic.
 
BunchaRubes
2023-03-18 5:29:24 PM  

DiDGr8: How is breaking into Papa Johns and vandalizing it "burglary"?

/And "squatting" is what the other guy is charged with?
//Mayhaps the "journalism" in this article leaves something to be desired.
///Either that or cops just pull charges out of a hat (or somewhere else).


Some people understand what burglary is and others, like you, don't and can't be bothered to use a free dictionary.
 
mrmopar5287 [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 5:30:38 PM  

Exhume me for National Pop Goes the Weasel Day: I don't understand why the cops arrested the squatter in this case and not the many other cases of squatters in homes. In those cases it is always a civil mater. Because it was a vacant business? Or maybe just cop logic.


A home is habitable and zoned for residential living. A business is not. Maybe "squatting" as a criminal violation only applies to places that are not zoned for residential living?
 
TheOtherDub
2023-03-18 5:32:04 PM  
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How very interesting. Had way too many of these, recently
 
jim32rr [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 5:35:10 PM  
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mrmopar5287 [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 5:35:29 PM  

DiDGr8: How is breaking into Papa Johns and vandalizing it "burglary"?


Burglary is entering into a building/structure with the intent to commit a crime, primarily theft.

Burglary can be entering into unlocked, open doors. It does not require breaking in, which is often a separate crime of "breaking and entering."

You can even have keys to a building and be someone who is otherwise given access, but if you enter with the intent to commit a crime it can become burglary. An acquaintance of mine was a manager of a restaurant and the funniest story he has is his assistant manager who somehow butt dialed him with her cell phone. She was closing up the place and he listened to her talking to her POS boyfriend as she cleaned the register and safe out of a relatively small amount of cash (a few hundred dollars) and stole the money. Completely, totally, 100% stupid crime to commit and she did it while she was being listened to and talking about what she was doing. The charges were theft but also caught a felony burglary because she used her keys to enter the building with the intent to commit the crime of theft.
 
Exhume me for National Pop Goes the Weasel Day
2023-03-18 5:36:30 PM  

BunchaRubes: DiDGr8: How is breaking into Papa Johns and vandalizing it "burglary"?

/And "squatting" is what the other guy is charged with?
//Mayhaps the "journalism" in this article leaves something to be desired.
///Either that or cops just pull charges out of a hat (or somewhere else).

Some people understand what burglary is and others, like you, don't and can't be bothered to use a free dictionary.


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Subtonic
2023-03-18 5:36:42 PM  

Exhume me for National Pop Goes the Weasel Day: I don't understand why the cops arrested the squatter in this case and not the many other cases of squatters in homes. In those cases it is always a civil mater. Because it was a vacant business? Or maybe just cop logic.


I'm guessing he mouthed off and they couldn't just beat him thanks to a vest cam. Why else would you do the extra paperwork?
 
Big_Doofus
2023-03-18 5:37:13 PM  

jtown: [variety.com image 850x566]


Great show. It was a shame they canceled it.
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 5:38:27 PM  

Exhume me for National Pop Goes the Weasel Day: I don't understand why the cops arrested the squatter in this case and not the many other cases of squatters in homes. In those cases it is always a civil mater. Because it was a vacant business? Or maybe just cop logic.


Because cops are lazy bastards and don't want to think or use their brains, so they don't get involved in residential squatting unless someone higher up tells them to.  But any dumbass can recognize when a non-Papa Johns employee is sleeping in a Papa Johns.
 
X-Geek
2023-03-18 5:45:38 PM  
Let's see, we have the police, Papa John's, a burglar and a squatter...

Now this might sound harsh...
 
swahnhennessy
2023-03-18 5:48:01 PM  
CSB
I was homeless but working in Telluride in '92. Was sleeping above the stage they had in the park. Cop came to ask me to leave, nicely. I made sure I left in cuffs.
I hate cops, but sometimes it just us.

/csb
 
Albert911emt [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 5:48:06 PM  
Ruckus? Is that what they're calling Papa John's pizza now?
 
waxbeans [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 5:48:22 PM  

DiDGr8: .
///Either that or cops just pull charges out of a hat (or somewhere else).


Like all days ending in y
 
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2023-03-18 5:57:32 PM  
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Shryke
2023-03-18 5:57:51 PM  
Someone broke in to a Papa John's? Did they leave 4 accordions as well?
 
Spice Must Flow
2023-03-18 5:59:33 PM  

Shryke: Someone broke in to a Papa John's? Did they leave 4 accordions as well?


I'm familiar with that Avengers reference.
 
CruiserTwelve
2023-03-18 6:00:31 PM  
"Authorities arrived on scene and found Sheila Williamson, 61, of Simi Valley inside the business, where she "threw cleaning chemicals throughout the store," according to officials."

Sounds like a hungry crazy homeless woman who broke in expecting to find ready-made pizzas to eat and got mad when she found out she'd have to make her own.
 
meanmutton
2023-03-18 6:02:16 PM  

TheOtherDub: This content is not available in your country/region.
How very interesting. Had way too many of these, recently


Blame your government making rules that are expensive for small news organizations to be able to comply with.
 
CruiserTwelve
2023-03-18 6:02:39 PM  

NM Volunteer: Because cops are lazy bastards and don't want to think or use their brains, so they don't get involved in residential squatting unless someone higher up tells them to.


Or maybe the cops understand the difference between civil and criminal law better than you do.
 
Adolf Oliver Nipples [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 6:04:04 PM  
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Ketchuponsteak
2023-03-18 6:06:24 PM  

BunchaRubes: DiDGr8: How is breaking into Papa Johns and vandalizing it "burglary"?

/And "squatting" is what the other guy is charged with?
//Mayhaps the "journalism" in this article leaves something to be desired.
///Either that or cops just pull charges out of a hat (or somewhere else).

Some people understand what burglary is and others, like you, don't and can't be bothered to use a free dictionary.


"illegal entry of a building with intent to commit a crime, especially theft."

So it only became burglary when he vandalized. I never really thought about what the criminal code for breaking into a building with the intent of not doing anything.
 
LordOfThePings [OhFark]
2023-03-18 6:09:21 PM  
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MOPAR BLUE [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 6:11:37 PM  
I live hear in Simi. My wife knows who this lady is. It's her Ex's Ex.
 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 6:12:58 PM  

Ketchuponsteak: BunchaRubes: DiDGr8: How is breaking into Papa Johns and vandalizing it "burglary"?

/And "squatting" is what the other guy is charged with?
//Mayhaps the "journalism" in this article leaves something to be desired.
///Either that or cops just pull charges out of a hat (or somewhere else).

Some people understand what burglary is and others, like you, don't and can't be bothered to use a free dictionary.

"illegal entry of a building with intent to commit a crime, especially theft."

So it only became burglary when he vandalized. I never really thought about what the criminal code for breaking into a building with the intent of not doing anything.


Breaking and entering. Different jurisdictions have all kinds of different codes for this particular crime. Some places still use the old definition of "burglary" where it has to be a "dwelling place" and it has to be at night. Some, like California and I think New York, have multiple degrees of burglary depending on whether it's day or night and whether a weapon is or is not involved. Some require actual "breaking" so that it isn't burglary if the door was ajar or the suspect had a key and some don't.

In this case, just being in a building without the intent to do anything isn't "burglary" hence why the one guy was just charged with "squatting" or I'm assuming it was trespass.
 
Loucifer
2023-03-18 6:14:38 PM  
The squatter went from free room to free room and board.
 
Prof. Frink [BareFark]
2023-03-18 6:18:04 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: [Fark user image image 300x168]


Glad to see this has been covered.
 
big pig peaches
2023-03-18 6:20:33 PM  

Ketchuponsteak: BunchaRubes: DiDGr8: How is breaking into Papa Johns and vandalizing it "burglary"?

/And "squatting" is what the other guy is charged with?
//Mayhaps the "journalism" in this article leaves something to be desired.
///Either that or cops just pull charges out of a hat (or somewhere else).

Some people understand what burglary is and others, like you, don't and can't be bothered to use a free dictionary.

"illegal entry of a building with intent to commit a crime, especially theft."

So it only became burglary when he vandalized. I never really thought about what the criminal code for breaking into a building with the intent of not doing anything.


 Breaking and entering.
 
gnosis301
2023-03-18 6:30:16 PM  
Women!
 
Exhume me for National Pop Goes the Weasel Day
2023-03-18 6:36:59 PM  

MOPAR BLUE: I live hear in Simi. My wife knows who this lady is. It's her Ex's Ex.


What?
 
Sleeper_agent
2023-03-18 6:37:02 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: [Fark user image 300x168]


Does anyone else have the experience where they look at a picture like this and see older people? I'm considerably older than the people in these photos, though the people themselves are older than me, so the people in the photos also look forever older than me, even though I know I look roughly like Grizzly Adams right now and they look like children/young adults.
 
Subtonic
2023-03-18 6:37:17 PM  
Homeless people should squat in rent a car garages as God intended. They're there for a reason, people.
 
Subtonic
2023-03-18 6:40:10 PM  

Sleeper_agent: Adolf Oliver Nipples: [Fark user image 300x168]

Does anyone else have the experience where they look at a picture like this and see older people? I'm considerably older than the people in these photos, though the people themselves are older than me, so the people in the photos also look forever older than me, even though I know I look roughly like Grizzly Adams right now and they look like children/young adults.


Relax. Just chill old man, we're gonna get you back to the home and a nice warm bed. No, the nurses aren't stealing your medication. Just calm down, buddy. Go with the nice men here. Everything is gonna be okay.
 
ClavellBCMI [OhFark]
2023-03-18 6:43:00 PM  

big pig peaches: Ketchuponsteak: BunchaRubes: DiDGr8: How is breaking into Papa Johns and vandalizing it "burglary"?

/And "squatting" is what the other guy is charged with?
//Mayhaps the "journalism" in this article leaves something to be desired.
///Either that or cops just pull charges out of a hat (or somewhere else).

Some people understand what burglary is and others, like you, don't and can't be bothered to use a free dictionary.

"illegal entry of a building with intent to commit a crime, especially theft."

So it only became burglary when he vandalized. I never really thought about what the criminal code for breaking into a building with the intent of not doing anything.

Breaking and entering.


Breaking and entering = gaining entry into a building or other piece property by bypassing whatever locking mechanisms were in place on said building or piece of property at the place you entered said building or piece of property without permission to enter said building or piece of property. Burglary = removing or attempting to remove the contents of a building or other piece of property you did not have the permission to remove the contents of.
 
Sleeper_agent
2023-03-18 6:43:03 PM  

Subtonic: Sleeper_agent: Adolf Oliver Nipples: [Fark user image 300x168]

Does anyone else have the experience where they look at a picture like this and see older people? I'm considerably older than the people in these photos, though the people themselves are older than me, so the people in the photos also look forever older than me, even though I know I look roughly like Grizzly Adams right now and they look like children/young adults.

Relax. Just chill old man, we're gonna get you back to the home and a nice warm bed. No, the nurses aren't stealing your medication. Just calm down, buddy. Go with the nice men here. Everything is gonna be okay.


They said! They said there would be pudding before the bath! No! Only Alice can change my catheter, she knows the special way.
 
Uncontrolled_Jibe
2023-03-18 6:48:14 PM  

Exhume me for National Pop Goes the Weasel Day: I don't understand why the cops arrested the squatter in this case and not the many other cases of squatters in homes. In those cases it is always a civil mater. Because it was a vacant business? Or maybe just cop logic.


GED in law?
https://www.justia.com/criminal/offenses/other-crimes/criminal-trespass/#:~:text=Trespassing%20can%20have%20both%20civil,trespasser%20also%20may%20face%20charges.

If it's zoned commercial, you cannot occupy a business as a residence.   A business without a license can be seized and shut down.
 
jim32rr [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 6:51:12 PM  

MOPAR BLUE: I live hear in Simi. My wife knows who this lady is. It's her Ex's Ex.


Sounds like that threesome is coming together for you, congrats
 
johnryan51 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-18 7:06:07 PM  
Didn't a thief turn in Anne Frank's family?
 
sex_and_drugs_for_ian [BareFark]
2023-03-18 7:11:41 PM  

Sleeper_agent: Adolf Oliver Nipples: [Fark user image 300x168]

Does anyone else have the experience where they look at a picture like this and see older people? I'm considerably older than the people in these photos, though the people themselves are older than me, so the people in the photos also look forever older than me, even though I know I look roughly like Grizzly Adams right now and they look like children/young adults.


Not so much with that pic, even though all three of them are a couple years older than me.

Definitely with pics of old MLB players from the 30s 40s and 50s though.

Also with world war vet pics from the time, but those guys had an excuse for looking older than their years.
 
Gentlequiet
2023-03-18 7:41:16 PM  
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Iowan73
2023-03-18 7:44:11 PM  

DiDGr8: How is breaking into Papa Johns and vandalizing it "burglary"?

/And "squatting" is what the other guy is charged with?
//Mayhaps the "journalism" in this article leaves something to be desired.
///Either that or cops just pull charges out of a hat (or somewhere else).


Breaking into a home or residence is burglary.
 
Kit Fister [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 8:01:13 PM  

Exhume me for National Pop Goes the Weasel Day: I don't understand why the cops arrested the squatter in this case and not the many other cases of squatters in homes. In those cases it is always a civil mater. Because it was a vacant business? Or maybe just cop logic.


Let me help you.

Cop 101: "You're poor and homeless? That's an arresting." followed by "Go be poor somewhere else, hippie."
 
Kit Fister [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 8:01:57 PM  

Uncontrolled_Jibe: Exhume me for National Pop Goes the Weasel Day: I don't understand why the cops arrested the squatter in this case and not the many other cases of squatters in homes. In those cases it is always a civil mater. Because it was a vacant business? Or maybe just cop logic.

GED in law?
https://www.justia.com/criminal/offenses/other-crimes/criminal-trespass/#:~:text=Trespassing%20can%20have%20both%20civil,trespasser%20also%20may%20face%20charges.

If it's zoned commercial, you cannot occupy a business as a residence.   A business without a license can be seized and shut down.


well, there go my dreams of buying a neat old brick factory building and converting it into a house.
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 8:16:26 PM  

CruiserTwelve: NM Volunteer: Because cops are lazy bastards and don't want to think or use their brains, so they don't get involved in residential squatting unless someone higher up tells them to.

Or maybe the cops understand the difference between civil and criminal law better than you do.


Criminal trespassing is a civil matter?
 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 8:32:34 PM  

NM Volunteer: CruiserTwelve: NM Volunteer: Because cops are lazy bastards and don't want to think or use their brains, so they don't get involved in residential squatting unless someone higher up tells them to.

Or maybe the cops understand the difference between civil and criminal law better than you do.

Criminal trespassing is a civil matter?


Can be, sure. Trespass can be a crime or a tort, depending on whether anything inside was damaged or if the owner wants to press charges. It could just be a fine or a couple days in jail.
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 8:56:35 PM  

Gyrfalcon: NM Volunteer: CruiserTwelve: NM Volunteer: Because cops are lazy bastards and don't want to think or use their brains, so they don't get involved in residential squatting unless someone higher up tells them to.

Or maybe the cops understand the difference between civil and criminal law better than you do.

Criminal trespassing is a civil matter?

Can be, sure. Trespass can be a crime or a tort, depending on whether anything inside was damaged or if the owner wants to press charges. It could just be a fine or a couple days in jail.


Either way, squatters should just be trespassed out of people's houses, instead of cops shrugging their shoulders and telling the displaced homeowners that it is a civil matter.
 
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