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corq [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-18 5:31:58 AM  
FTA:

"According to the report, a bicyclist was observed in the middle of a roadway without bicycle lights."

Welp, that's a beating...

"A traffic stop was then conducted and the bicyclist was placed in to custody after "several physical strikes, taser deployment and OC spray deployment," according to the report.

So thus far, cops responded to a misdemeanor infraction and citation opportunity by escalating...but I digress:

According to the troopers' initial report, 0.5 grams of "suspected fentanyl/heroin" was found in a clear container in the bicyclist's backpack."

Apparently field test kits are out of fashion, so as law enforcement, "we're just gonna wing it."

Fine police work Lou, et al...

I'm gonna surmise the bicyclist was potentially being an arse, but this was a citation offense the cops incited into extra charges, so fark 'em.
 
Xai
2023-03-18 6:47:15 AM  
Charged the officers? he must have been white.
 
Nana's Vibrator
2023-03-18 6:52:47 AM  
Cut them all some slack.  Drinking lead enriched water makes you dumb, belligerent, and dangerous.  Like a cyclist or police officer.
 
Badafuco [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-18 6:59:12 AM  
F*ck cops.
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2023-03-18 7:00:12 AM  
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Ilikebackpacks
2023-03-18 7:01:22 AM  
Never root for the pigs.
 
GregInIndy
2023-03-18 7:01:27 AM  

corq: FTA:

"According to the report, a bicyclist was observed in the middle of a roadway without bicycle lights."

Welp, that's a beating...

"A traffic stop was then conducted and the bicyclist was placed in to custody after "several physical strikes, taser deployment and OC spray deployment," according to the report.

So thus far, cops responded to a misdemeanor infraction and citation opportunity by escalating...but I digress:

According to the troopers' initial report, 0.5 grams of "suspected fentanyl/heroin" was found in a clear container in the bicyclist's backpack."

Apparently field test kits are out of fashion, so as law enforcement, "we're just gonna wing it."

Fine police work Lou, et al...

I'm gonna surmise the bicyclist was potentially being an arse, but this was a citation offense the cops incited into extra charges, so fark 'em.


You completely omit the part where he tries to take off on them so they have to chase him down.

Yes, the use of force in response was extreme.
 
Habitual Cynic
2023-03-18 7:05:00 AM  
The real miracle is there was 0.5 grams of fentanyl and NO COPS WERE HARMED.
 
GregInIndy
2023-03-18 7:05:07 AM  
He flees on the bike, they tackle him to the ground, he then tries to fight them on the ground by writhing, kicking & punching at them, the 3rd cop arrives & jumps in, and that's when they decide to beat & tase the hell out of him.

Cops deserve to be in trouble, but that guy's no helpless innocent either.
 
sinko swimo
2023-03-18 7:05:33 AM  
no wonder they beat the bicyclist. look at all the traffic he was messing with.

we are past the point where cops should be voted into office. by people who know them and feel they would be fair and just in their duties. because hiring rando mush mouths and giving them a Bat Man belt full of weapons and restraints ain't working out.
 
Samsonite Swan [OhFark]
2023-03-18 7:09:14 AM  
Subby says they beat a guy ON a bicycle but he couldn't have sustained a beating while remaining on a bicycle... so they technically beat him OFF the bicycle.
 
Tokin42
2023-03-18 7:10:22 AM  

GregInIndy: He flees on the bike, they tackle him to the ground, he then tries to fight them on the ground by writhing, kicking & punching at them, the 3rd cop arrives & jumps in, and that's when they decide to beat & tase the hell out of him.

Cops deserve to be in trouble, but that guy's no helpless innocent either.


The punishment for not having a light on your bicycle isn't beaten, tased, and pepper sprayed.
 
fuzzybacchus
2023-03-18 7:11:19 AM  

sinko swimo: no wonder they beat the bicyclist. look at all the traffic he was messing with.

we are past the point where cops should be voted into office. by people who know them and feel they would be fair and just in their duties. because hiring rando mush mouths and giving them a Bat Man belt full of weapons and restraints ain't working out.


STOP RESISTING

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kmgenesis23
2023-03-18 7:20:28 AM  

Tokin42: GregInIndy: He flees on the bike, they tackle him to the ground, he then tries to fight them on the ground by writhing, kicking & punching at them, the 3rd cop arrives & jumps in, and that's when they decide to beat & tase the hell out of him.

Cops deserve to be in trouble, but that guy's no helpless innocent either.

The punishment for not having a light on your bicycle isn't beaten, tased, and pepper sprayed.


I argue it's not unreasonable to flee considering that cops might beat the hell out of you or kill you regardless.
 
GregInIndy
2023-03-18 7:22:28 AM  

Tokin42: GregInIndy: He flees on the bike, they tackle him to the ground, he then tries to fight them on the ground by writhing, kicking & punching at them, the 3rd cop arrives & jumps in, and that's when they decide to beat & tase the hell out of him.

Cops deserve to be in trouble, but that guy's no helpless innocent either.

The punishment for not having a light on your bicycle isn't beaten, tased, and pepper sprayed.


Fleeing while detained then fighting the cops however may result in being on the receiving end of a few punches back while being subdued and taken into custody.
 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 7:23:25 AM  
Ryan, Cody, and Justin?  Sounds more like a boy band than state troopers
 
FormlessOne
2023-03-18 7:23:57 AM  

GregInIndy: He flees on the bike, they tackle him to the ground, he then tries to fight them on the ground by writhing, kicking & punching at them, the 3rd cop arrives & jumps in, and that's when they decide to beat & tase the hell out of him.

Cops deserve to be in trouble, but that guy's no helpless innocent either.


Don't think anyone said he was - but, last time I checked, "kicking a prone person in the face" isn't normal procedure. Neither is "punching him in the face to get him to roll onto his back" or "drilling him in the face while he's on his back" but, here we are.
 
Sin_City_Superhero
2023-03-18 7:25:05 AM  
Bicyclists are annoying, but cops are dangerous and unhinged.  So while you don't have to root FOR the cyclist, I think it's fair to root AGAINST the cops.
 
GregInIndy
2023-03-18 7:26:30 AM  

FormlessOne: GregInIndy: He flees on the bike, they tackle him to the ground, he then tries to fight them on the ground by writhing, kicking & punching at them, the 3rd cop arrives & jumps in, and that's when they decide to beat & tase the hell out of him.

Cops deserve to be in trouble, but that guy's no helpless innocent either.

Don't think anyone said he was - but, last time I checked, "kicking a prone person in the face" isn't normal procedure. Neither is "punching him in the face to get him to roll onto his back" or "drilling him in the face while he's on his back" but, here we are.


I agree. They beat & abused him after he was subdued. They deserve to lose their jobs.
 
FormlessOne
2023-03-18 7:27:08 AM  
...and, of course, every single timestamp vanished. Feh.

Person was beaten, Tased, and OC sprayed to force compliance. None of those cops were at risk. A Taser is supposed to be a non-lethal alternative to lethal force, not a farking cattle prod. OC spray is meant to disable a potentially dangerous person, not a punishment.
 
FormlessOne
2023-03-18 7:29:12 AM  

GregInIndy: FormlessOne: GregInIndy: He flees on the bike, they tackle him to the ground, he then tries to fight them on the ground by writhing, kicking & punching at them, the 3rd cop arrives & jumps in, and that's when they decide to beat & tase the hell out of him.

Cops deserve to be in trouble, but that guy's no helpless innocent either.

Don't think anyone said he was - but, last time I checked, "kicking a prone person in the face" isn't normal procedure. Neither is "punching him in the face to get him to roll onto his back" or "drilling him in the face while he's on his back" but, here we are.

I agree. They beat & abused him after he was subdued. They deserve to lose their jobs.


Yep. I'd ask why it took half a year to arraign them, given that they were suspended mere days after the incident, though.
 
GregInIndy
2023-03-18 7:33:13 AM  

FormlessOne: GregInIndy: FormlessOne: GregInIndy: He flees on the bike, they tackle him to the ground, he then tries to fight them on the ground by writhing, kicking & punching at them, the 3rd cop arrives & jumps in, and that's when they decide to beat & tase the hell out of him.

Cops deserve to be in trouble, but that guy's no helpless innocent either.

Don't think anyone said he was - but, last time I checked, "kicking a prone person in the face" isn't normal procedure. Neither is "punching him in the face to get him to roll onto his back" or "drilling him in the face while he's on his back" but, here we are.

I agree. They beat & abused him after he was subdued. They deserve to lose their jobs.

Yep. I'd ask why it took half a year to arraign them, given that they were suspended mere days after the incident, though.


Because cop unions are really farking good. They know the cops are losing their jobs and are essentially getting them extended paid time off to transition into mall security after they deal with the charges.
 
Lsherm [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 7:46:25 AM  
corq: I'm gonna surmise the bicyclist was potentially being an arse

Watch the video. This guy wasn't begging for a beating but he wasn't helping himself, either. He immediately tried to take off when they asked him what's up. Just a general pro-tip: If the police stop you, immediately trying to run away looks like suspicious behavior.

That said, this video ended the way all videos end when cops think they're disrespected: they beat the hell out of the guy. I won't even say "for no reason" - because the cyclist was giving them plenty of reasons - but they are officers and they should know better.
 
Tyrone Slothrop [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 7:53:22 AM  
Almost never side with the cops. They are inherently untrustworthy.
 
Tyrone Slothrop [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 7:56:53 AM  

sinko swimo: no wonder they beat the bicyclist. look at all the traffic he was messing with.

we are past the point where cops should be voted into office. by people who know them and feel they would be fair and just in their duties. because hiring rando mush mouths and giving them a Bat Man belt full of weapons and restraints ain't working out.


"Those who know them" are likely to be the same regressive mouth breathers that yearn for a police state same as the cop.

\the best indication that a person shouldn't be a cop is they answer "yes" to the question "do you want to be a cop?"
 
kmgenesis23
2023-03-18 7:57:50 AM  

Lsherm: corq: I'm gonna surmise the bicyclist was potentially being an arse

Watch the video. This guy wasn't begging for a beating but he wasn't helping himself, either. He immediately tried to take off when they asked him what's up. Just a general pro-tip: If the police stop you, immediately trying to run away looks like suspicious behavior.

That said, this video ended the way all videos end when cops think they're disrespected: they beat the hell out of the guy. I won't even say "for no reason" - because the cyclist was giving them plenty of reasons - but they are officers and they should know better.


Disrespecting a cop is reason for a beating? Pretty sure even SCOTUS disagrees with that take.
 
Tyrone Slothrop [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 7:59:42 AM  

kmgenesis23: Lsherm: corq: I'm gonna surmise the bicyclist was potentially being an arse

Watch the video. This guy wasn't begging for a beating but he wasn't helping himself, either. He immediately tried to take off when they asked him what's up. Just a general pro-tip: If the police stop you, immediately trying to run away looks like suspicious behavior.

That said, this video ended the way all videos end when cops think they're disrespected: they beat the hell out of the guy. I won't even say "for no reason" - because the cyclist was giving them plenty of reasons - but they are officers and they should know better.

Disrespecting a cop is reason for a beating? Pretty sure even SCOTUS disagrees with that take.


Have you seen the current SC?
 
Tom Marvolo Bombadil
2023-03-18 8:05:08 AM  
plot twist:

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kmgenesis23
2023-03-18 8:05:25 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: kmgenesis23: Lsherm: corq: I'm gonna surmise the bicyclist was potentially being an arse

Watch the video. This guy wasn't begging for a beating but he wasn't helping himself, either. He immediately tried to take off when they asked him what's up. Just a general pro-tip: If the police stop you, immediately trying to run away looks like suspicious behavior.

That said, this video ended the way all videos end when cops think they're disrespected: they beat the hell out of the guy. I won't even say "for no reason" - because the cyclist was giving them plenty of reasons - but they are officers and they should know better.

Disrespecting a cop is reason for a beating? Pretty sure even SCOTUS disagrees with that take.

Have you seen the current SC?


I have. But even our current court would not go so far as to overturn that precedent. Freeze Peach and all.

I don't encourage struggling/fighting cops, that's a bad way to go. But disrespect away at all times. Flip them off when you see them, call them names, etc. And if you can get arrested for doing just that, sue the shiat outta them. No qualified immunity for clearly established violations.
 
Yellow Beard
2023-03-18 8:05:26 AM  
Cops in jail and cyclist had his arse whipped..........sounds like a win win.
 
clawsoon
2023-03-18 8:12:10 AM  

GregInIndy: You completely omit the part where he tries to take off on them so they have to decided to chase him down.


FTFY
 
GregInIndy
2023-03-18 8:15:52 AM  

clawsoon: GregInIndy: You completely omit the part where he tries to take off on them so they have to decided to chase him down.

FTFY


The notion that anyone has the option or right to simply not be detained by police is some bizarre Sovereign Citizen type shiat.
 
kmgenesis23
2023-03-18 8:21:26 AM  

GregInIndy: clawsoon: GregInIndy: You completely omit the part where he tries to take off on them so they have to decided to chase him down.

FTFY

The notion that anyone has the option or right to simply not be detained by police is some bizarre Sovereign Citizen type shiat.


The notion that cops can beat hell out of you for not wanting to be detained by a couple lunkheads for an equipment violation is some fascist type shiat.
 
GregInIndy
2023-03-18 8:27:37 AM  

kmgenesis23: GregInIndy: clawsoon: GregInIndy: You completely omit the part where he tries to take off on them so they have to decided to chase him down.

FTFY

The notion that anyone has the option or right to simply not be detained by police is some bizarre Sovereign Citizen type shiat.

The notion that cops can beat hell out of you for not wanting to be detained by a couple lunkheads for an equipment violation is some fascist type shiat.


Tell me what you think should happen when cops go to detain a person and that person attempts to flee and/or attacks the cops when prevented from fleeing.
 
kmgenesis23
2023-03-18 8:31:31 AM  
Depends on the offense. Is the person suspected of being armed/dangerous or committing a serious offense? Chase em down. Tase if necessary to subdue. But you don't get to beat them when they're down.

Equipment violation? Follow them home and write a ticket if it's so damned important.
 
BitwiseShift
2023-03-18 8:43:43 AM  
Subby forgot to mention that one of the cops was a vegan.
 
Hey Nurse! [OhFark]
2023-03-18 8:45:15 AM  

BitwiseShift: Subby forgot to mention that one of the cops was a vegan.


Why don't cops eat pork?

Professional courtesy
 
GoldSpider
2023-03-18 9:04:00 AM  
Let me save everyone here a little time.

"Law enforcement is fascism."

You're welcome.
 
GregInIndy
2023-03-18 9:08:55 AM  

kmgenesis23: Depends on the offense. Is the person suspected of being armed/dangerous or committing a serious offense? Chase em down. Tase if necessary to subdue. But you don't get to beat them when they're down.

Equipment violation? Follow them home and write a ticket if it's so damned important.


A big part of the reason a person is getting pulled over on a bicycle with no lights in the middle of the night is that cops know that people doing so are quite often testing car doors and either stealing out of cars or stealing cars themselves.
 
GoldSpider
2023-03-18 9:16:45 AM  

GregInIndy: kmgenesis23: Depends on the offense. Is the person suspected of being armed/dangerous or committing a serious offense? Chase em down. Tase if necessary to subdue. But you don't get to beat them when they're down.

Equipment violation? Follow them home and write a ticket if it's so damned important.

A big part of the reason a person is getting pulled over on a bicycle with no lights in the middle of the night is that cops know that people doing so are quite often testing car doors and either stealing out of cars or stealing cars themselves.


The people who like to point out that police don't prevent crime are the same people who say that police shouldn't hassle people who are acting suspiciously.
 
ChrisDe
2023-03-18 9:18:11 AM  

Samsonite Swan: Subby says they beat a guy ON a bicycle but he couldn't have sustained a beating while remaining on a bicycle... so they technically beat him OFF the bicycle.


If they beat him off, that opens up a whole set of new charges.
 
clawsoon
2023-03-18 9:23:28 AM  

GregInIndy: clawsoon: GregInIndy: You completely omit the part where he tries to take off on them so they have to decided to chase him down.

FTFY

The notion that anyone has the option or right to simply not be detained by police is some bizarre Sovereign Citizen type shiat.


I'm coming at this from more of a proportionality viewpoint.  The punishment - including the punishment dished out by the police before the courts have a say - should be proportional to the crime.  A broken taillight, to take a canonical example, should never lead to a broken head.
 
Tom-Servo
2023-03-18 9:34:39 AM  
FTFA:
"According to the report, a bicyclist was observed in the middle of a roadway without bicycle lights."

100% on the cops side on this one.
 
GregInIndy
2023-03-18 9:42:35 AM  

Tom-Servo: FTFA:
"According to the report, a bicyclist was observed in the middle of a roadway without bicycle lights."

100% on the cops side on this one.


I'm not.

Stop him? Detain him? Prevent him from fleeing? Subdue & arrest him if he flees? Check ID and cite him? Great. All for it.

Beat & abuse him after he's subdued? Hell no. You get a guy in custody it becomes your absolute responsibility to protect them and keep them safe. Cops do not get to vent their anger at having to chase someone down by beating or abusing a suspect. Even if that suspect hit them earlier. That's just an assault.
 
Bruscar
2023-03-18 9:56:37 AM  

GregInIndy: He flees on the bike, they tackle him to the ground, he then tries to fight them on the ground by writhing, kicking & punching at them, the 3rd cop arrives & jumps in, and that's when they decide to beat & tase the hell out of him.

Cops deserve to be in trouble, but that guy's no helpless innocent either.


I can't wish enough bad things on you at the moment. Yours' is a world where you cannot even conceive of simply letting others simply live their lives. Riding a bike, walking down the road, buying groceries: all these things make an individual subject to being stopped, detained, searched, and harassed by LEO in your mind. Anyone who resists being treated like an already convicted inmate in his own community deserves to be tasered and beaten.

I'm just so sick of people like you who, for the most part, refuse to watch videos like this and when they do watch them always, ALWAYS have an excuse for the fascist and violent behavior of LEO at the ready. Seriously, prostate cancer is too good for you.
 
Yellow Beard
2023-03-18 9:58:24 AM  

Bruscar: GregInIndy: He flees on the bike, they tackle him to the ground, he then tries to fight them on the ground by writhing, kicking & punching at them, the 3rd cop arrives & jumps in, and that's when they decide to beat & tase the hell out of him.

Cops deserve to be in trouble, but that guy's no helpless innocent either.

I can't wish enough bad things on you at the moment. Yours' is a world where you cannot even conceive of simply letting others simply live their lives. Riding a bike, walking down the road, buying groceries: all these things make an individual subject to being stopped, detained, searched, and harassed by LEO in your mind. Anyone who resists being treated like an already convicted inmate in his own community deserves to be tasered and beaten.

I'm just so sick of people like you who, for the most part, refuse to watch videos like this and when they do watch them always, ALWAYS have an excuse for the fascist and violent behavior of LEO at the ready. Seriously, prostate cancer is too good for you.


Wow, tell us how you really feel....lol
 
dennysgod
2023-03-18 10:12:41 AM  
According to the report, a bicyclist was observed in the middle of a roadway without bicycle lights.


Really?

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Lsherm [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 10:22:40 AM  

kmgenesis23: Disrespecting a cop is reason for a beating? Pretty sure even SCOTUS disagrees with that take.


If you watch the video, the beating doesn't start until well after they have the guy on the ground but he's still trying to get away. That's still not a reason to beat him, but in general, if two cops are already on top of you trying to get away is just going to escalate things. You can't win the fight at that point, and it always ends poorly.

That said, they didn't need to whale on the guy. They could have managed to cuff him without the beating but I'm not going to pretend the victim was in any way cooperating or helping himself in the situation. He tried to run, got caught, then fought once he was apprehended.  All of that doesn't justify the beating, but it explains it. You can't win an argument with a cop on the street, as a society we've given them too much power. The time to argue is in court.
 
The Brains
2023-03-18 10:56:34 AM  

Ilikebackpacks: Never root for the pigs.


Are field and wildlife cops pigs to you?

Or should we let rednecks poach all the animals?
 
The Brains
2023-03-18 10:58:21 AM  

sinko swimo: no wonder they beat the bicyclist. look at all the traffic he was messing with.

we are past the point where cops should be voted into office. by people who know them and feel they would be fair and just in their duties. because hiring rando mush mouths and giving them a Bat Man belt full of weapons and restraints ain't working out.


I'm in favor of the "Grandmas With Shotguns" method but people look at you funny when you say that
 
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