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MikeyFuccon
2023-03-18 1:07:09 AM  
With a septic tank here and a septic tank there
Here a tank, there a tank, everywhere a septic tank
A house went up on McDonald Creek, Eieio
 
BigBurrito [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-18 1:20:32 AM  
Out of stater, who thought MT is a republican paradise with no oversight, or yocal who couldn't be bothered?

Hmmm.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 1:21:34 AM  
Apart from their original sin, that place looked like the wish.com version of itself, somewhere between chateau and run-down motel.
 
kevinatilusa
2023-03-18 1:25:38 AM  
Pet peeve here: "Old MacDonald had a farm" is 7 syllables.  "A house goes up on McDonald Creek" is 9.  If you try and sing the latter to the tune of the former, it just doesn't work.  Ditto with trying to fit "Conservation district says it's got to go" (11 syllables) into "And on that farm he had a ___" (8 syllables).
 
BigBurrito [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-18 1:27:08 AM  

433: Apart from their original sin, that place looked like the wish.com version of itself, somewhere between chateau and run-down motel.


I wouldn't think a local architect would be foolish enough to site a house so close to the river, and then foolish enough to not apply for the land use permit. Montana has some reasonable stream and river setbacks due to a few egregious houses built in the 80's.

I am thinking a cheesy purchased plan from one of the online catalogs, an unlicensed G.C., and a trash landowner.
 
Some Junkie Cosmonaut
2023-03-18 1:31:28 AM  

kevinatilusa: Pet peeve here: "Old MacDonald had a farm" is 7 syllables.  "A house goes up on McDonald Creek" is 9.  If you try and sing the latter to the tune of the former, it just doesn't work.  Ditto with trying to fit "Conservation district says it's got to go" (11 syllables) into "And on that farm he had a ___" (8 syllables).


MacDonald creek has a new house.   Law says that house has to go

/meter repair complete
 
NINEv2
2023-03-18 1:36:12 AM  

BigBurrito: 433: Apart from their original sin, that place looked like the wish.com version of itself, somewhere between chateau and run-down motel.

I wouldn't think a local architect would be foolish enough to site a house so close to the river, and then foolish enough to not apply for the land use permit. Montana has some reasonable stream and river setbacks due to a few egregious houses built in the 80's.

I am thinking a cheesy purchased plan from one of the online catalogs, an unlicensed G.C., and a trash landowner.


I'd go with yes. There was something similar near Red Lodge. A house south of town (right) along Rock Creek was listed for $2.1m, and then after the flooding in June the listing came down. Hm. Wonder why.
 
BigBurrito [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-18 1:52:20 AM  

NINEv2: BigBurrito: 433: Apart from their original sin, that place looked like the wish.com version of itself, somewhere between chateau and run-down motel.

I wouldn't think a local architect would be foolish enough to site a house so close to the river, and then foolish enough to not apply for the land use permit. Montana has some reasonable stream and river setbacks due to a few egregious houses built in the 80's.

I am thinking a cheesy purchased plan from one of the online catalogs, an unlicensed G.C., and a trash landowner.

I'd go with yes. There was something similar near Red Lodge. A house south of town (right) along Rock Creek was listed for $2.1m, and then after the flooding in June the listing came down. Hm. Wonder why.


To be fair, that was some major flooding last year, and even with a 200' setback would have still been catastrophic.

Is the railcar cafe place still there? I may need a pork chop sandwich this summer.
 
acouvis
2023-03-18 2:01:46 AM  

BigBurrito: 433: Apart from their original sin, that place looked like the wish.com version of itself, somewhere between chateau and run-down motel.

I wouldn't think a local architect would be foolish enough to site a house so close to the river, and then foolish enough to not apply for the land use permit. Montana has some reasonable stream and river setbacks due to a few egregious houses built in the 80's.

I am thinking a cheesy purchased plan from one of the online catalogs, an unlicensed G.C., and a trash landowner.


Probably some idiot who thought it'd be denied if they applied but it'd be allowed if it was already done.

No sympathy.
 
Tom Marvolo Bombadil
2023-03-18 2:06:45 AM  
The spelling is wrong Subby.  Wait until Ronald hears...

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NINEv2
2023-03-18 2:29:25 AM  

BigBurrito: NINEv2: BigBurrito: 433: Apart from their original sin, that place looked like the wish.com version of itself, somewhere between chateau and run-down motel.

I wouldn't think a local architect would be foolish enough to site a house so close to the river, and then foolish enough to not apply for the land use permit. Montana has some reasonable stream and river setbacks due to a few egregious houses built in the 80's.

I am thinking a cheesy purchased plan from one of the online catalogs, an unlicensed G.C., and a trash landowner.

I'd go with yes. There was something similar near Red Lodge. A house south of town (right) along Rock Creek was listed for $2.1m, and then after the flooding in June the listing came down. Hm. Wonder why.

To be fair, that was some major flooding last year, and even with a 200' setback would have still been catastrophic.

Is the railcar cafe place still there? I may need a pork chop sandwich this summer.


They were right in the flooded area but I didn't go up this year so I don't know. Ricardo and fam moved La Palmitas into the old Mas Taco location and helped feed the relief workers and sandbaggers. Best carnitas I've ever had. Cattail bakery and Babcock and Miles dodged the worst of it too.

/YBRA member
//may be joining the board soon
 
iammoistvonlipwig
2023-03-18 2:38:20 AM  
Surprised Rip didn't blow this one up. Been watching that documentary with fiance. Is this part of season 6?
 
untoldforce
2023-03-18 3:07:25 AM  
I love the process. You need a 310 permit for construction. Since they didn't get a 310 permit, the government is going to force them to deconstruct the house. The irony is that a 310 permit is required for deconstruction.

/the cycle of 310 permits continues
 
Some Junkie Cosmonaut
2023-03-18 3:52:58 AM  

untoldforce: I love the process. You need a 310 permit for construction. Since they didn't get a 310 permit, the government is going to force them to deconstruct the house. The irony is that a 310 permit is required for deconstruction.

/the cycle of 310 permits continues


And they'll make them pay for one too.  Which is why you shouldn't build shiat without a permit in areas that require it
 
Diocletian's Last Cabbage [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 4:28:05 AM  
Housing construction prevention trifecta imminent?
 
sinko swimo
2023-03-18 5:04:32 AM  
why do people get pissed off after 3/4 of the money is spent and the place is nearly done? they could have spoke up when ground was being broken. but noooooo, is more fun to watch someone suffer.
 
ketkarsa
2023-03-18 6:05:53 AM  
Subby, you got a genuine LOL from me.
 
kp1230
2023-03-18 7:02:18 AM  

BigBurrito: Out of stater, who thought MT is a republican paradise with no oversight, or yocal who couldn't be bothered?

Hmmm.


Even worse, from the perspective of many Montanans, the couple is from California. This article has more information. My local paper posted this article on Facebook. There were comments from what you'd think would be wide-open space loving people who live here saying "Zomg, government overreach."
 
PerpetualPeristalsis
2023-03-18 7:11:02 AM  
"Photos taken during an on-site inspection show the house currently stands at three stories, with two decks."

I wonder which three stories?
 
cyferhax
2023-03-18 7:42:16 AM  

sinko swimo: why do people get pissed off after 3/4 of the money is spent and the place is nearly done? they could have spoke up when ground was being broken. but noooooo, is more fun to watch someone suffer.


because the idiots building the place could have gotten the required permit before breaking ground?
 
bibliophile42 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-18 8:34:32 AM  

kp1230: BigBurrito: Out of stater, who thought MT is a republican paradise with no oversight, or yocal who couldn't be bothered?

Hmmm.

Even worse, from the perspective of many Montanans, the couple is from California. This article has more information. My local paper posted this article on Facebook. There were comments from what you'd think would be wide-open space loving people who live here saying "Zomg, government overreach."


So they could pay an engineer to evaluate the stream bank but not a free permit? No sympathy here.
 
HotLonelyTeenageGirl
2023-03-18 9:00:19 AM  

kevinatilusa: Pet peeve here: "Old MacDonald had a farm" is 7 syllables.  "A house goes up on McDonald Creek" is 9.  If you try and sing the latter to the tune of the former, it just doesn't work.  Ditto with trying to fit "Conservation district says it's got to go" (11 syllables) into "And on that farm he had a ___" (8 syllables).


So here is a neat thing about music and rhythym

Quarter notes can become two 8th notes, which can become two 16th notes, which can become 2 32nd notes.

You just follow a tempo and it doesn't matter how many syllables the sentence you read has!
 
Discordulator
2023-03-18 10:34:21 AM  

HotLonelyTeenageGirl: kevinatilusa: Pet peeve here: "Old MacDonald had a farm" is 7 syllables.  "A house goes up on McDonald Creek" is 9.  If you try and sing the latter to the tune of the former, it just doesn't work.  Ditto with trying to fit "Conservation district says it's got to go" (11 syllables) into "And on that farm he had a ___" (8 syllables).

So here is a neat thing about music and rhythym

Quarter notes can become two 8th notes, which can become two 16th notes, which can become 2 32nd notes.

You just follow a tempo and it doesn't matter how many syllables the sentence you read has!


That's not how rhythm works.

Guess we found Subby, though.
 
Al Tsheimers
2023-03-18 10:46:07 AM  

kp1230: BigBurrito: Out of stater, who thought MT is a republican paradise with no oversight, or yocal who couldn't be bothered?

Hmmm.

Even worse, from the perspective of many Montanans, the couple is from California. This article has more information. My local paper posted this article on Facebook. There were comments from what you'd think would be wide-open space loving people who live here saying "Zomg, government overreach."


The people, and government, of MT don't take kindly to outsiders. As a non-resident, I have had to deal with them, and they make paperwork a real PITA. Filing a state tax return has some unique rules for non-residents that other states do not.
 
almostsane [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 10:55:26 AM  

sinko swimo: why do people get pissed off after 3/4 of the money is spent and the place is nearly done? they could have spoke up when ground was being broken. but noooooo, is more fun to watch someone suffer.


Complaints were coming in from the moment the illegal construction began.
Not sure why you think the lawbreakers are being made to suffer for having to remove their illegal construction but the asshats deserve to suffer.  The damage they caused won't be easily repaired.
 
Snort
2023-03-18 11:33:46 AM  
How bad can it be?

*sees picture*

That's stupid on so many levels.  One minor flood and you have a new houseboat.

Permitting exists for reasons.  Mostly so you don't become a burden to the community with your shenanigans.
 
kp1230
2023-03-18 11:45:57 AM  

Al Tsheimers: kp1230: BigBurrito: Out of stater, who thought MT is a republican paradise with no oversight, or yocal who couldn't be bothered?

Hmmm.

Even worse, from the perspective of many Montanans, the couple is from California. This article has more information. My local paper posted this article on Facebook. There were comments from what you'd think would be wide-open space loving people who live here saying "Zomg, government overreach."

The people, and government, of MT don't take kindly to outsiders. As a non-resident, I have had to deal with them, and they make paperwork a real PITA. Filing a state tax return has some unique rules for non-residents that other states do not.


There is a special category of dislike reserved for Californians, though. I've lived in Montana for eleven years, and when I'm asked where I'm from, I'm glad that I can say that I moved here from Wyoming, where I lived for several years, and leave out that I lived most of my life in Southern California. And I get why there is the hatred, but I moved away from California for a reason, and I've no desire to make Montana like California.

/Though a Trader Joe's would be nice.
 
almostsane [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 12:10:50 PM  

kp1230: Al Tsheimers: kp1230: BigBurrito: Out of stater, who thought MT is a republican paradise with no oversight, or yocal who couldn't be bothered?

Hmmm.

Even worse, from the perspective of many Montanans, the couple is from California. This article has more information. My local paper posted this article on Facebook. There were comments from what you'd think would be wide-open space loving people who live here saying "Zomg, government overreach."

The people, and government, of MT don't take kindly to outsiders. As a non-resident, I have had to deal with them, and they make paperwork a real PITA. Filing a state tax return has some unique rules for non-residents that other states do not.

There is a special category of dislike reserved for Californians, though. I've lived in Montana for eleven years, and when I'm asked where I'm from, I'm glad that I can say that I moved here from Wyoming, where I lived for several years, and leave out that I lived most of my life in Southern California. And I get why there is the hatred, but I moved away from California for a reason, and I've no desire to make Montana like California.

/Though a Trader Joe's would be nice.


Unfortunately, it seems as though most of the Californians moving here just want to recreate what they've left: every Californian that has moved to my road, a non-maintained dirt road, immediately starts campaigning for the road to be paved 🤦  I tell them if they want a paved road, move to one.  They also let their dogs run loose, despite that it's against the law, and whine when the dog is shot for harassing livestock or wildlife.  And when you try to tell them anything their response is "well, that's how we do it in California".
 
JAYoung
2023-03-18 12:31:11 PM  
Meanwhile, down on Flathead Lake, a 519-foot-long bridge to a private island is currently being disassembled.
The state Supreme Court ruled the permit for its construction issued by the country commissioners was invalid.
 
HotLonelyTeenageGirl
2023-03-18 12:32:28 PM  

Discordulator: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: kevinatilusa: Pet peeve here: "Old MacDonald had a farm" is 7 syllables.  "A house goes up on McDonald Creek" is 9.  If you try and sing the latter to the tune of the former, it just doesn't work.  Ditto with trying to fit "Conservation district says it's got to go" (11 syllables) into "And on that farm he had a ___" (8 syllables).

So here is a neat thing about music and rhythym

Quarter notes can become two 8th notes, which can become two 16th notes, which can become 2 32nd notes.

You just follow a tempo and it doesn't matter how many syllables the sentence you read has!

That's not how rhythm works.

Guess we found Subby, though.


I would almost care about your need for pedantry, but I am too busy playing in my "40 year old professional with no kids" recording studio on my drums.
 
NINEv2
2023-03-18 12:32:47 PM  

kp1230: BigBurrito: Out of stater, who thought MT is a republican paradise with no oversight, or yocal who couldn't be bothered?

Hmmm.

Even worse, from the perspective of many Montanans, the couple is from California. This article has more information. My local paper posted this article on Facebook. There were comments from what you'd think would be wide-open space loving people who live here saying "Zomg, government overreach."


I have a soft spot for Glacier, so anyone who tries building within the park can get bent. I also can't imagine what they paid for that plot. Oh well. Dumbasses.
 
Discordulator
2023-03-18 1:01:18 PM  

NINEv2: kp1230: BigBurrito: Out of stater, who thought MT is a republican paradise with no oversight, or yocal who couldn't be bothered?

Hmmm.

Even worse, from the perspective of many Montanans, the couple is from California. This article has more information. My local paper posted this article on Facebook. There were comments from what you'd think would be wide-open space loving people who live here saying "Zomg, government overreach."

I have a soft spot for Glacier, so anyone who tries building within the park can get bent. I also can't imagine what they paid for that plot. Oh well. Dumbasses.


HotLonelyTeenageGirl: Discordulator: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: kevinatilusa: Pet peeve here: "Old MacDonald had a farm" is 7 syllables.  "A house goes up on McDonald Creek" is 9.  If you try and sing the latter to the tune of the former, it just doesn't work.  Ditto with trying to fit "Conservation district says it's got to go" (11 syllables) into "And on that farm he had a ___" (8 syllables).

So here is a neat thing about music and rhythym

Quarter notes can become two 8th notes, which can become two 16th notes, which can become 2 32nd notes.

You just follow a tempo and it doesn't matter how many syllables the sentence you read has!

That's not how rhythm works.

Guess we found Subby, though.

I would almost care about your need for pedantry, but I am too busy playing in my "40 year old professional with no kids" recording studio on my drums.


I'm not sure which of those is supposed to be a flex, I say from my "44 year old professional with no kids" art studio.

I guess you have to be on the drums in 26 minutes, or something?

Lighten up, Francis. It was a dig at Subby more than anything. Unless you are subby. Then it is a dig at you.
 
I May Be Crazy But...
2023-03-18 1:27:25 PM  

sinko swimo: why do people get pissed off after 3/4 of the money is spent and the place is nearly done? they could have spoke up when ground was being broken. but noooooo, is more fun to watch someone suffer.


I wonder if there's a way they could have avoided anyone being able to stop them on a whim for not having a permit when they were almost done building.

Probably not.
 
NINEv2
2023-03-18 1:47:43 PM  

Discordulator: NINEv2: kp1230: BigBurrito: Out of stater, who thought MT is a republican paradise with no oversight, or yocal who couldn't be bothered?

Hmmm.

Even worse, from the perspective of many Montanans, the couple is from California. This article has more information. My local paper posted this article on Facebook. There were comments from what you'd think would be wide-open space loving people who live here saying "Zomg, government overreach."

I have a soft spot for Glacier, so anyone who tries building within the park can get bent. I also can't imagine what they paid for that plot. Oh well. Dumbasses.

HotLonelyTeenageGirl: Discordulator: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: kevinatilusa: Pet peeve here: "Old MacDonald had a farm" is 7 syllables.  "A house goes up on McDonald Creek" is 9.  If you try and sing the latter to the tune of the former, it just doesn't work.  Ditto with trying to fit "Conservation district says it's got to go" (11 syllables) into "And on that farm he had a ___" (8 syllables).

So here is a neat thing about music and rhythym

Quarter notes can become two 8th notes, which can become two 16th notes, which can become 2 32nd notes.

You just follow a tempo and it doesn't matter how many syllables the sentence you read has!

That's not how rhythm works.

Guess we found Subby, though.

I would almost care about your need for pedantry, but I am too busy playing in my "40 year old professional with no kids" recording studio on my drums.

I'm not sure which of those is supposed to be a flex, I say from my "44 year old professional with no kids" art studio.

I guess you have to be on the drums in 26 minutes, or something?

Lighten up, Francis. It was a dig at Subby more than anything. Unless you are subby. Then it is a dig at you.


A flex? Uh... no. Just no sympathy for the homeowner.
 
stuffy
2023-03-18 1:51:00 PM  
Looks like that river might take care of removing the house on its own.
 
morg
2023-03-19 8:56:28 AM  
WhoTF builds that close to water? The whole house will be downriver within a year or two anyway.
 
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