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aleister_greynight [TotalFark]
2023-03-17 6:22:09 PM  
We have an above average population of NIMBYs, I am convinced.
 
whither_apophis [TotalFark]
2023-03-17 6:34:30 PM  
"Oregonians hate two things: density and sprawl" some researcher I read about 15 years ago
 
revrendjim [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-17 6:53:59 PM  

aleister_greynight: We have an above average population of NIMBYs, I am convinced.


It's the same everywhere. My town has a severe housing shortage, but my neighborhood association is fighting tooth and nail to stop a zoning change that would allow higher density housing.
 
Benevolent Misanthrope [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-17 9:15:50 PM  

revrendjim: aleister_greynight: We have an above average population of NIMBYs, I am convinced.

It's the same everywhere. My town has a severe housing shortage, but my neighborhood association is fighting tooth and nail to stop a zoning change that would allow higher density housing.


Well... Yeah. If you intentions landlords and made more multi-family units, you would attract the Wrong Element.
 
Naido [TotalFark]
2023-03-17 9:55:19 PM  
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Lsherm [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 12:09:17 AM  
NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.
 
DHT3
2023-03-18 12:10:21 AM  

Naido: [Fark user image 333x750]


This is so true that it's not even funny!
 
austerity101
2023-03-18 12:13:18 AM  
The Venn diagram of Oregonians complaining we need more housing and Oregonians complaining about new construction is basically O O.
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 12:18:24 AM  

Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.


Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.
 
Nicholas D. Wolfwood [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-18 12:18:45 AM  
When they said "We don't have enough affordable housing", they were rejoicing, not complaining.
 
Stud Gerbil
2023-03-18 12:20:40 AM  
Things haven't changed much over the years.   In the late '60s and '70s they wanted everyone in California to just "move on through" to Seattle and stop only for gas.  Divide the PNW into two states:   Coast to Cascades of both states become one state and everything east of the mountains belongs to Idaho.
 
dustbunnyboo
2023-03-18 12:23:37 AM  
I live in Colorado, where people are angry that other people bought land and paid taxes on that land, sometimes for decades, and now want to develop that land. They're pissed because they may lose their views, because of potential traffic, and because other people dare to build on their own land.
 
olorin604
2023-03-18 12:27:36 AM  
Every farking time.
 
meat0918 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-18 12:31:23 AM  
They didn't ask me, and I'm a Oregon resident.

BUILD! FARKING BUILD HOMES!!!
 
AppleOptionEsc
2023-03-18 12:39:48 AM  

NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.


*laughs in Landlord*

So you want affordable housing AND an extra one time cost of $500 in PVC piping per unit? Sounds like a 2200 rental unit to me. Enjoy your (1) basement washer for 20 tenants.
 
Lsherm [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 12:45:18 AM  

NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.


What the hell does this even mean?
 
Daer21
2023-03-18 12:48:03 AM  

Lsherm: NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.

What the hell does this even mean?


Washing machines are petit bourgeoisie
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 12:48:19 AM  

Lsherm: NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.

What the hell does this even mean?


It means I don't give a shiat about property values, I just want a comfortable little rental apartment or studio apartment where I don't have to pay an entire paycheck and still not get a damned washing machine in the unit.
 
AirForceVet [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-18 12:48:37 AM  
Well, what do you expect? Our population keeps increasing so people require housing.

We are having a lot of housing construction here in north Alabama as well. Old cotton fields, forests, farmland get paved over more than I care for. But, they are reusing previously developed land within the city for housing development.

/I'm just not sure if any of this new stuff is "affordable."
 
austerity101
2023-03-18 12:50:54 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.

*laughs in Landlord*

So you want affordable housing AND an extra one time cost of $500 in PVC piping per unit? Sounds like a 2200 rental unit to me. Enjoy your (1) basement washer for 20 tenants.


This has very "I pay you minimum wage because I legally can't pay you less" energy to it.
 
austerity101
2023-03-18 12:52:59 AM  

Daer21: Lsherm: NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.

What the hell does this even mean?

Washing machines are petit bourgeoisie


He's saying that renters don't really care about a house and a yard and that and we're totally cool with building denser housing. Property values aren't a concern to us because we don't own anything. Because we're not allowed to.
 
astelmaszek
2023-03-18 12:54:33 AM  

AirForceVet: Well, what do you expect? Our population keeps increasing so people require housing.

We are having a lot of housing construction here in north Alabama as well. Old cotton fields, forests, farmland get paved over more than I care for. But, they are reusing previously developed land within the city for housing development.

/I'm just not sure if any of this new stuff is "affordable."


Are the units rented? Then they are affordable.
 
Ravage [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-18 12:55:08 AM  
They are building a huge development in our town. Like a 10% increase in the size of the city.
I am all for it, with one caveat. The sewer system is already overburdened. This is because the old sewer lines are below the water table and are old clay tiles. In the winter water ingresses through the tile pipes and then has to be processed by the treatment facility.
If not for this issue, the new construction by itself would not overburdon the treatment plant. As it stands, it is a problem.
The city needs to dig up the old lines and replace them with new ones.  New development should be charged a fee that would apply to this cost.
 
astelmaszek
2023-03-18 12:57:12 AM  

austerity101: Daer21: Lsherm: NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.

What the hell does this even mean?

Washing machines are petit bourgeoisie

He's saying that renters don't really care about a house and a yard and that and we're totally cool with building denser housing. Property values aren't a concern to us because we don't own anything. Because we're not allowed to.


They are allowed to own whatever they want and can afford to buy.
 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 12:57:46 AM  
We don't want people living near us. That's why we live in huge houses with no setback.
 
SurelyShirley
2023-03-18 12:58:46 AM  

aleister_greynight: We have an above average population of NIMBYs, I am convinced.


I was going to post something about that, and I'm glad I get to respond to the boobies.
In Bend, we have a group that calls itself YIMBYs. Then again, some of us tend to be slightly too idealistic, progressive and positive thinking.

In general, you're right, though. Nobody around here wants to see the homeless all over the place, yet those same people don't want increased (spending on) housing, including "affordable" housing, or spend any kind of money to address the homeless issue. Something about "I worked hard for the downpayment on my tract home and I don't want anyone else to get a better deal than me, just like my student loan"

We live way outside of Bend and way outside of any actual town, but in the closest town to us, there is major construction going on. General housing, senior housing, low income housing, commercial buildings etc., and most folks around here consider it the "Californication" of Oregon, while they'd rather see us included in "Greater Idaho" aka, the 4th Reich.
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 1:02:41 AM  

astelmaszek: austerity101: Daer21: Lsherm: NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.

What the hell does this even mean?

Washing machines are petit bourgeoisie

He's saying that renters don't really care about a house and a yard and that and we're totally cool with building denser housing. Property values aren't a concern to us because we don't own anything. Because we're not allowed to.

They are allowed to own whatever they want and can afford to buy.


But then again, you think Navajo people "choose" to live in poverty, so maybe you should keep your garbage opinions to yourself.
 
astelmaszek
2023-03-18 1:02:50 AM  

austerity101: Daer21: Lsherm: NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.

What the hell does this even mean?

Washing machines are petit bourgeoisie

He's saying that renters don't really care about a house and a yard and that and we're totally cool with building denser housing. Property values aren't a concern to us because we don't own anything. Because we're not allowed to.


Outside of some stupid shiat I've seen in TX, there literally is nothing in US law on federal or. State level preventing anyone from buying whatever property they want to buy. There are literally hundreds of federal and state agencies making it as easy as it could possibly be to buy your own place with as little as 3% down. If you can't pull off the down payment under these conditions you literally are not in a business of a owning anything. This is coming from a guy with no mortgage that does everything on what he owns other than cleaning and lawn mowing. Owning shiat is a responsibility and an expense.
 
astelmaszek
2023-03-18 1:08:58 AM  

NM Volunteer: astelmaszek: austerity101: Daer21: Lsherm: NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.

What the hell does this even mean?

Washing machines are petit bourgeoisie

He's saying that renters don't really care about a house and a yard and that and we're totally cool with building denser housing. Property values aren't a concern to us because we don't own anything. Because we're not allowed to.

They are allowed to own whatever they want and can afford to buy.

But then again, you think Navajo people "choose" to live in poverty, so maybe you should keep your garbage opinions to yourself.


They do. They really effing do. Go off to school,  move off the shiat land the reservation is, join society, move on. Like millions of Mexicans have when they moved here to make a good living. Like I said, I hire two of them, husband and a wife team. Love them to death. They make my life easy. I help them with taxes and other issues. So does another friend of mine. Last year their combined income was just a bit north of 105k in Iowa. They are doing great and they are not citizens yet. So any Navajo from
NM is choosing simply not to do great.
 
Telephone Sanitizer Second Class
2023-03-18 1:11:06 AM  

aleister_greynight: We have an above average population of NIMBYs, I am convinced.


As an Oregon resident, I'm getting really tired of all these NIMBYs in my back yard.
 
Lsherm [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 1:12:37 AM  

Daer21: Washing machines are petit bourgeoisie


I think you re being cruel.
 
astelmaszek
2023-03-18 1:14:58 AM  

NM Volunteer: astelmaszek: austerity101: Daer21: Lsherm: NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.

What the hell does this even mean?

Washing machines are petit bourgeoisie

He's saying that renters don't really care about a house and a yard and that and we're totally cool with building denser housing. Property values aren't a concern to us because we don't own anything. Because we're not allowed to.

They are allowed to own whatever they want and can afford to buy.

But then again, you think Navajo people "choose" to live in poverty, so maybe you should keep your garbage opinions to yourself.


I have another Mexican neighbor. Just a street down from my fancy section. People biatch about his trucks and trailers parked in the street. I don't give an ef. Put 7 kids through private school with his roofing company. Angelo rocks. I helped him navigate immigration for 20 years. He is a citizen now. Started with shiat. I started with $50 bucks in my pocket in 1993. If the citizen Navajo cannot figure their shiat out that is literally their problem.
 
Mr.Insightful
2023-03-18 1:16:33 AM  
Not just Oregonians. Bottom of the horseshoe fauxgressives do this all over, and then lie about what they're doing:

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astelmaszek
2023-03-18 1:16:43 AM  

NM Volunteer: astelmaszek: austerity101: Daer21: Lsherm: NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.

What the hell does this even mean?

Washing machines are petit bourgeoisie

He's saying that renters don't really care about a house and a yard and that and we're totally cool with building denser housing. Property values aren't a concern to us because we don't own anything. Because we're not allowed to.

They are allowed to own whatever they want and can afford to buy.

But then again, you think Navajo people "choose" to live in poverty, so maybe you should keep your garbage opinions to yourself.


Sorry if us immigrants can't help feel sorry for you shiat.
 
astelmaszek
2023-03-18 1:32:18 AM  

NM Volunteer: astelmaszek: austerity101: Daer21: Lsherm: NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.

What the hell does this even mean?

Washing machines are petit bourgeoisie

He's saying that renters don't really care about a house and a yard and that and we're totally cool with building denser housing. Property values aren't a concern to us because we don't own anything. Because we're not allowed to.

They are allowed to own whatever they want and can afford to buy.

But then again, you think Navajo people "choose" to live in poverty, so maybe you should keep your garbage opinions to yourself.


Here is my house, I paid $220K for it in 2006 after working my ass off and saving for years. Took me another 17 years to finish iat. I replaced every bit of wire, plumbing, window and door in it myself. I hired out some other things, made some wonderful Mexican friends in the process. Ef American citizens who can't pull it off. I moved here in 1993 with $50 in my pocket at 14 and zero English. And even after listening to fark assholes such as yourself I still vote Democrat because I don't think kids should go hungry while trying to learn but please, don't try to make me feel sorry for reservation drunks eating gas station pizza while trying to score their next hit of meth. You can't.

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meat0918 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-18 1:33:20 AM  

SurelyShirley: aleister_greynight: We have an above average population of NIMBYs, I am convinced.

I was going to post something about that, and I'm glad I get to respond to the boobies.
In Bend, we have a group that calls itself YIMBYs. Then again, some of us tend to be slightly too idealistic, progressive and positive thinking.

In general, you're right, though. Nobody around here wants to see the homeless all over the place, yet those same people don't want increased (spending on) housing, including "affordable" housing, or spend any kind of money to address the homeless issue. Something about "I worked hard for the downpayment on my tract home and I don't want anyone else to get a better deal than me, just like my student loan"

We live way outside of Bend and way outside of any actual town, but in the closest town to us, there is major construction going on. General housing, senior housing, low income housing, commercial buildings etc., and most folks around here consider it the "Californication" of Oregon, while they'd rather see us included in "Greater Idaho" aka, the 4th Reich.


I've seen the Bend YIMBYs on the Oregon subreddit a bit lately.

I'm all for this surge in housing. Use the goddamn land that in the UGBs that is supposedly for infill as actual infill instead of protecting it because "reasons". (Note this doesn't mean bulldoze actual protected land...)

I was really glad to see two new apartment complexes going in nearby where I used to work. There's bus access, it's walkable to a few big box stores (yeah, Walmart, but it's something), and you're on the freeway in 2 minutes. Plus it's next to a natural area that is protected and won't get developed.

Not so happy a 1 bed/1 bath was going for $1750, not that I'm selling my house anytime soon and would need to rent at these insane prices.

//Eugene resident.
//Lucked out and my mortgage is about half that rent price....
// three slashies for the humblebrag
 
scalpod
2023-03-18 1:35:06 AM  
After years of paying for unused jail space on the gubmint dime, and watching so many newly built office spaces sitting unused?

Weird.
 
scalpod
2023-03-18 1:36:54 AM  

scalpod: After years of paying for unused jail space on the gubmint dime, and watching so many newly built office spaces sitting unused?

Weird.


I know, I know, it was eventually used. EVENTUALLY
 
inner ted
2023-03-18 1:41:07 AM  

NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.

What the hell does this even mean?

It means I don't give a shiat about property values, I just want a comfortable little rental apartment or studio apartment where I don't have to pay an entire paycheck and still not get a damned washing machine in the unit.


You just described property values
 
astelmaszek
2023-03-18 1:44:40 AM  

NM Volunteer: astelmaszek: austerity101: Daer21: Lsherm: NM Volunteer: Lsherm: NIMBY. Everyone becomes conservative when it comes to property values.

No one is truly Jesus liberal.

Except for us renters, property values mean nothing.  So we're down with apartments as long as they have washing machines in each unit.

What the hell does this even mean?

Washing machines are petit bourgeoisie

He's saying that renters don't really care about a house and a yard and that and we're totally cool with building denser housing. Property values aren't a concern to us because we don't own anything. Because we're not allowed to.

They are allowed to own whatever they want and can afford to buy.

But then again, you think Navajo people "choose" to live in poverty, so maybe you should keep your garbage opinions to yourself.


And I spend enough time on Wind River reservation to lose all respect for the natives. Most of them are one level removed from MAGA crowd. Drunk, methed up losers biatching about everything under the sun would be a really accurate description of 90% of native people living around Pinedale. And damn, most of them could have been millionaires if they just decided to stick weld for 5 years cause the going rate for a stick welder was $250k a year for anyone willing to survive the winter on the Jonah field in WY. But no, it was mostly methed up white dudes doing the work, dropping like flies in -40F, spending their money getting the native women liquired up so their native boyfriends could collect 90% of the money.
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 1:49:00 AM  
Laughter out loud, out of touch white guy ranting about the "natives".  Tell us more, Clive Bundy.
 
bittermang
2023-03-18 1:49:17 AM  
Who invited the Ghost of Andrew Jackson to the thread about affordable housing, and why are we biatching about natives again?
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 1:52:36 AM  

bittermang: Who invited the Ghost of Andrew Jackson to the thread about affordable housing, and why are we biatching about natives again?


European guy thinks income and wealth inequality is just because people don't work hard enough, and therefore they don't deserve washing machines.
 
astelmaszek
2023-03-18 1:57:59 AM  

NM Volunteer: Laughter out loud, out of touch white guy ranting about the "natives".  Tell us more, Clive Bundy.


Keep it up and eventually everyone will lose the last ounce of empathy they have. I've done more work and helped more people than you ever can with shiat talk because I have money. Anymore, I just help the kids. The adults with their superstitions and religions are no different than the evangelicals. I'm sorry, I didn't choose the term "native", it is a term they chose for themselves. Help me out here, what is the crime rate in Riverton? Run entirely by the Wind River tribe. Effing heaven. Meth, meth and more meth while they invest more money attempting to connect to invented "history". All makes for good stories and zero progress.
 
astelmaszek
2023-03-18 2:02:33 AM  

NM Volunteer: bittermang: Who invited the Ghost of Andrew Jackson to the thread about affordable housing, and why are we biatching about natives again?

European guy thinks income and wealth inequality is just because people don't work hard enough, and therefore they don't deserve washing machines.


Maybe a $500 ESAB stick welder would be good first investment instead of the washing machine. Never met anyone who can weld in the field who's kids go hungry. Never, not once. And it's a skill everyone can learn. My 7 year old can do it fairly proficiently and I highly doubt he'll ever have to use it to make a living but knowing that he knows how to makes me sleep well at night.
 
astelmaszek
2023-03-18 2:05:24 AM  

NM Volunteer: bittermang: Who invited the Ghost of Andrew Jackson to the thread about affordable housing, and why are we biatching about natives again?

European guy thinks income and wealth inequality is just because people don't work hard enough, and therefore they don't deserve washing machines.


Been teaching him how to TIG as well so his future kids can also enjoy some fun every now and then in case he falls through.
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-03-18 2:07:37 AM  
We should all become welders.  Fark teaching, we can weld books.  Fark farming and ranching, we can eat welded metal.  Then we can whine about the stroppy natives while thinking that being richer than people in poverty makes us morally superior.
 
astelmaszek
2023-03-18 2:11:36 AM  

NM Volunteer: We should all become welders.  Fark teaching, we can weld books.  Fark farming and ranching, we can eat welded metal.  Then we can whine about the stroppy natives while thinking that being richer than people in poverty makes us morally superior.


I'm sorry, you ever done any ranching or is your knowledge mostly theoretical in that area, as it seems in all others? Because there is shiat ton of welding involved In making them fences and cattle gates, BTW, I don't weld for a living, anymore, cause you know, it's hard, back breaking work.
 
astelmaszek
2023-03-18 2:12:50 AM  

NM Volunteer: We should all become welders.  Fark teaching, we can weld books.  Fark farming and ranching, we can eat welded metal.  Then we can whine about the stroppy natives while thinking that being richer than people in poverty makes us morally superior.


But I still can, with the best of them.
 
astelmaszek
2023-03-18 2:14:11 AM  
My point is, teach your kids and it's amazing what can happen. Or biatch.
 
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