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(The Daily Beast)   Scientists have narrowed down Covid's origins and can confidently state it came from the careless actions of one man. You guessed it: Frank Stallone   (thedailybeast.com) divider line
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Kubo [TotalFark]
2023-03-17 12:34:48 PM  
I knew it.

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Rapmaster2000
2023-03-17 3:13:38 PM  
The magazine's report comes just days after an Economist/YouGov poll showed that nearly two-thirds of Americans favor the lab leak theory over natural occurrence.

Of course they do.  The lab leak "theory" is comforting.  It tells us that this is the cause of a small number of nefarious actors.  It implies that this menace can be contained.

The market theory tells you that you're not safe.  It states that zoonotic viruses can jump from animal to human in millions of places.  MERS came from camels in the ME.  Swine flu can jump from pig to human at any farm or slaughter house.  Hantavirus from rodents.  Bird flu can mutate into something much worse and jump to humans on a chicken farm at any moment.

And believe me, you're not safe.  We were lucky that SARS and MERS got everyone so sick and killed them so quickly.  The next one might be a polio - asymptomatically infecting nearly everyone and permanently crippling only 1%.
 
Kubo [TotalFark]
2023-03-17 4:18:38 PM  

Rapmaster2000: The magazine's report comes just days after an Economist/YouGov poll showed that nearly two-thirds of Americans favor the lab leak theory over natural occurrence.

Of course they do.  The lab leak "theory" is comforting.  It tells us that this is the cause of a small number of nefarious actors.  It implies that this menace can be contained.


Bingo. Reminds me of this scene from Arlington Road (underrated movie, IMHO) related to why we -- people, I mean -- are so easily comforted about explanations related to terrorism, which never has simple explanations.

Arlington Road - Dean Scobee class scene 1080p HD (1999)
Youtube YT4vmnYGVR4
 
olorin604
2023-03-17 5:06:43 PM  
I can't tell if that is a joke or real, what is a "racoon dog."
 
Phil McKraken [OhFark]
2023-03-17 5:07:19 PM  
I still think it was a particular disease spreading pussy grabber.
 
sinko swimo
2023-03-17 5:07:47 PM  
if you ever watch "Barfly" you won't like Frank Stallone's character. Not a nice guy.
 
Walker [TotalFark]
2023-03-17 5:08:12 PM  
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hobnail
2023-03-17 5:08:30 PM  
Is that like a tanuki?

/virus is stored in the balls
 
Phil McKraken [OhFark]
2023-03-17 5:08:31 PM  

olorin604: I can't tell if that is a joke or real, what is a "racoon dog."


There's no way to know.
 
Mrtraveler01
2023-03-17 5:08:33 PM  

Rapmaster2000: The magazine's report comes just days after an Economist/YouGov poll showed that nearly two-thirds of Americans favor the lab leak theory over natural occurrence.

Of course they do.  The lab leak "theory" is comforting.  It tells us that this is the cause of a small number of nefarious actors.  It implies that this menace can be contained.

The market theory tells you that you're not safe.  It states that zoonotic viruses can jump from animal to human in millions of places.  MERS came from camels in the ME.  Swine flu can jump from pig to human at any farm or slaughter house.  Hantavirus from rodents.  Bird flu can mutate into something much worse and jump to humans on a chicken farm at any moment.

And believe me, you're not safe.  We were lucky that SARS and MERS got everyone so sick and killed them so quickly.  The next one might be a polio - asymptomatically infecting nearly everyone and permanently crippling only 1%.


Basically this cartoon:

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Lumbar Puncture
2023-03-17 5:09:21 PM  
I found the first human crossover

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Farkonaut
2023-03-17 5:09:24 PM  
RIP
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Snapper Carr
2023-03-17 5:09:49 PM  

olorin604: I can't tell if that is a joke or real, what is a "racoon dog."


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bzdrummer
2023-03-17 5:10:03 PM  
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Lumbar Puncture
2023-03-17 5:10:34 PM  

olorin604: I can't tell if that is a joke or real, what is a "racoon dog."


Part of a sub species, like the "up dog"
 
Free Radical
2023-03-17 5:10:36 PM  
THE DAWGS ESCAPED FROM THE WHOO HAHN LAB!
 
I Browse [TotalFark]
2023-03-17 5:11:04 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: Maybe don't buy questionable, room temperature meat from open air markets located in slums.


Now

you tell me...
 
Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs
2023-03-17 5:11:08 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: Rapmaster2000: The magazine's report comes just days after an Economist/YouGov poll showed that nearly two-thirds of Americans favor the lab leak theory over natural occurrence.

Of course they do.  The lab leak "theory" is comforting.  It tells us that this is the cause of a small number of nefarious actors.  It implies that this menace can be contained.

The market theory tells you that you're not safe.  It states that zoonotic viruses can jump from animal to human in millions of places.  MERS came from camels in the ME.  Swine flu can jump from pig to human at any farm or slaughter house.  Hantavirus from rodents.  Bird flu can mutate into something much worse and jump to humans on a chicken farm at any moment.

And believe me, you're not safe.  We were lucky that SARS and MERS got everyone so sick and killed them so quickly.  The next one might be a polio - asymptomatically infecting nearly everyone and permanently crippling only 1%.

Maybe don't buy questionable, room temperature meat from open air markets located in slums.


Yes, I am sure that people do that out of preference and not because they live in said slums.

You didn't make good choices, you had good choices to pick from.
 
czei [BareFark]
2023-03-17 5:11:12 PM  

olorin604: I can't tell if that is a joke or real, what is a "racoon dog."


When a male raccoon is so horny it'll screw whatever it can find first?
 
Ophaelin
2023-03-17 5:11:32 PM  
raccoon dogs, pig bats, whatever...

Contagion Ending
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Lumbar Puncture
2023-03-17 5:11:48 PM  
Does this mean right wing nut will start saying WHO let the dogs out?
 
Black_Lazerus
2023-03-17 5:12:27 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: I found the first human crossover

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It'sa me coughing Mario
 
Ivo Shandor [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-17 5:12:33 PM  
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You little bastards. This is all your fault.
 
misanthropicsob [OhFark]
2023-03-17 5:13:10 PM  
For those who don't know what a Tanuki is, I have a ballsy documentary for you.

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Mr. Shabooboo
2023-03-17 5:13:14 PM  
His name will go down in history, Hitler, Stalin,Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Frank Stallone....
 
Kubo [TotalFark]
2023-03-17 5:13:22 PM  
Racoon dog?

But enough about your mom.

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Farkonaut
2023-03-17 5:13:25 PM  
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Walker [TotalFark]
2023-03-17 5:13:26 PM  

olorin604: I can't tell if that is a joke or real, what is a "racoon dog."


You know that "fake fur" you see on coats?
It's raccoon dog.

https://thefurbearers.com/blog/raccoon-dog-fur-being-sold-as-fake-fur/
 
Jensaarai
2023-03-17 5:13:56 PM  
Raccoon Dogs

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Pictured: Covid goes airborne for the first time.
 
WTP 2
2023-03-17 5:15:56 PM  
OK. OK right it could have happened that way, or, now just hear me out,
it could have been that someone from the lab gave it to one of the animals that were a few thousand feet away and downwind from the same lab. my money is on the lab.
there are 126,720,000 feet around the world and the lab is about 10 miles away...coincidence...probably not.
 
6nome
2023-03-17 5:15:57 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: olorin604: I can't tell if that is a joke or real, what is a "racoon dog."

Part of a sub species, like the "up dog"


What's up dog?
 
pheelix
2023-03-17 5:17:18 PM  
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Mouser
2023-03-17 5:17:49 PM  
A new analysis of samples collected from a Wuhan seafood market has suggested for the first time a concrete link between some of the wild animals being illegally sold there and the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic, The Atlantic reported on Thursday. The evidence points to raccoon dogs as the likely culprit, according to the analysis, which found that the animals may have been carrying and shedding the virus near the end of 2019.

How farking hungry do you have to be to look at a raccoon dog and think, "Them's good eatin'"?
 
AppleOptionEsc
2023-03-17 5:18:27 PM  

6nome: Lumbar Puncture: olorin604: I can't tell if that is a joke or real, what is a "racoon dog."

Part of a sub species, like the "up dog"

What's up dog?


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Be polite walk on the right
2023-03-17 5:21:03 PM  
get ur asswipes off the Iron Curtain Raid1atore

stop eating your own shiat
 
Bennie Crabtree
2023-03-17 5:21:07 PM  
The way "geneticists" are throwing every species under the bus with Covid is beginning to make me think that either "genetics" is a completely batshiat false science, or that Covid did not begin in non-human hosts.

Bats are rodents (but not rats by any epidemiological comparison), so why would they host a virus that infects deer and dogs and cats and humans? The mink farm infections make sense for rodents.

But now...racoon dogs? It's a canine infection?

But at some point the claims are too diverse to be plausible, and I think I've hit my limit of imbecilic genetic markers. The search for a non-human origin is some kind of scapegoat and now labs are jsut trying to publish-or-perish by throwing useless papers at a problem regardless of the ethical implications of sowing confusion.
 
Gin Buddy
2023-03-17 5:21:49 PM  

WTP 2: OK. OK right it could have happened that way, or, now just hear me out,
it could have been that someone from the lab gave it to one of the animals that were a few thousand feet away and downwind from the same lab. my money is on the lab.
there are 126,720,000 feet around the world and the lab is about 10 miles away...coincidence...probably not.


I mean, if I turn on the evening news and they're showing zombies walking around Atlanta, I'm going to think the CDC is somehow involved no matter who denies it.
 
Gestalt
2023-03-17 5:22:16 PM  
I'm not going to criticize anyone's cuisine, but tanukis just don't strike me as gourmet hot pot.
 
PirateKing [OhFark]
2023-03-17 5:22:23 PM  
I am reminded of a thought:

Privilege makes you believe that success is a matter of making good choices, instead of being a matter of having good choices.

I'm sure the people who get their food at the wet markets do it for the dirty thrill, right?
 
Bennie Crabtree
2023-03-17 5:22:37 PM  

WTP 2: OK. OK right it could have happened that way, or, now just hear me out,
it could have been that someone from the lab gave it to one of the animals that were a few thousand feet away and downwind from the same lab. my money is on the lab.
there are 126,720,000 feet around the world and the lab is about 10 miles away...coincidence...probably not.


Or it could have mutated inside human lungs. There is no compelling reason that either another species or a lab has to be the origin.
 
HighlanderRPI
2023-03-17 5:22:42 PM  
Sounds like bat soup is back on the menu, boys!
 
groppet
2023-03-17 5:22:54 PM  

Rapmaster2000: The magazine's report comes just days after an Economist/YouGov poll showed that nearly two-thirds of Americans favor the lab leak theory over natural occurrence.

Of course they do.  The lab leak "theory" is comforting.  It tells us that this is the cause of a small number of nefarious actors.  It implies that this menace can be contained.

The market theory tells you that you're not safe.  It states that zoonotic viruses can jump from animal to human in millions of places.  MERS came from camels in the ME.  Swine flu can jump from pig to human at any farm or slaughter house.  Hantavirus from rodents.  Bird flu can mutate into something much worse and jump to humans on a chicken farm at any moment.

And believe me, you're not safe.  We were lucky that SARS and MERS got everyone so sick and killed them so quickly.  The next one might be a polio - asymptomatically infecting nearly everyone and permanently crippling only 1%.


Plus I think that number jumped a bunch after that report last month from the DOE about they were confident it came from a lab but not 100% and other branches of the govt were wishy washy about it as well. The covidiots probably went nuts over that.
One thing I have learned in my life is mother nature is the best lab in the world and the shiat she can come up with can be worse than any man made stuff.
 
replacementcool
2023-03-17 5:23:12 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: The way "geneticists" are throwing every species under the bus with Covid is beginning to make me think that either "genetics" is a completely batshiat false science, or that Covid did not begin in non-human hosts.

Bats are rodents (but not rats by any epidemiological comparison), so why would they host a virus that infects deer and dogs and cats and humans? The mink farm infections make sense for rodents.

But now...racoon dogs? It's a canine infection?

But at some point the claims are too diverse to be plausible, and I think I've hit my limit of imbecilic genetic markers. The search for a non-human origin is some kind of scapegoat and now labs are jsut trying to publish-or-perish by throwing useless papers at a problem regardless of the ethical implications of sowing confusion.


hey everyone, look at the idiot who doesn't know shiat about genetics.
 
Petey4335
2023-03-17 5:23:15 PM  

6nome: Lumbar Puncture: olorin604: I can't tell if that is a joke or real, what is a "racoon dog."

Part of a sub species, like the "up dog"

What's up dog?


Nuthin', G.
 
oldfarthenry [TotalFark]
2023-03-17 5:24:11 PM  
B-b-but raccoons & dogs are sworn enemies! Did two of them hook up in some Romeo & Juliette romance to make babies?
 
Be polite walk on the right
2023-03-17 5:24:14 PM  

6nome: Lumbar Puncture: olorin604: I can't tell if that is a joke or real, what is a "racoon dog."

Part of a sub species, like the "up dog"

What's up dog?


MNMD U?¿
 
Vlad_the_Inaner
2023-03-17 5:26:08 PM  
Racoon dogs have magic powers

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/Magical
 
Tokin42
2023-03-17 5:26:22 PM  
From the NY Times article....


"The jumbling together of genetic material from the virus and the animal does not prove that a raccoon dog itself was infected. And even if a raccoon dog had been infected, it would not be clear that the animal had spread the virus to people. Another animal could have passed the virus to people, or someone infected with the virus could have spread the virus to a raccoon dog."

Sounds legit. They haven't found a raccoon dog with covid, don't know if any of them had it, but since they were in the vicinity they could have done it. That's enough evidence for some I guess.
 
Ivo Shandor [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-03-17 5:26:52 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: The way "geneticists" are throwing every species under the bus with Covid is beginning to make me think that either "genetics" is a completely batshiat false science, or that Covid did not begin in non-human hosts.

Bats are rodents (but not rats by any epidemiological comparison), so why would they host a virus that infects deer and dogs and cats and humans? The mink farm infections make sense for rodents.

But now...racoon dogs? It's a canine infection?

But at some point the claims are too diverse to be plausible, and I think I've hit my limit of imbecilic genetic markers. The search for a non-human origin is some kind of scapegoat and now labs are jsut trying to publish-or-perish by throwing useless papers at a problem regardless of the ethical implications of sowing confusion.


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doctorguilty
2023-03-17 5:28:08 PM  

replacementcool: Bennie Crabtree: The way "geneticists" are throwing every species under the bus with Covid is beginning to make me think that either "genetics" is a completely batshiat false science, or that Covid did not begin in non-human hosts.

Bats are rodents (but not rats by any epidemiological comparison), so why would they host a virus that infects deer and dogs and cats and humans? The mink farm infections make sense for rodents.

But now...racoon dogs? It's a canine infection?

But at some point the claims are too diverse to be plausible, and I think I've hit my limit of imbecilic genetic markers. The search for a non-human origin is some kind of scapegoat and now labs are jsut trying to publish-or-perish by throwing useless papers at a problem regardless of the ethical implications of sowing confusion.

hey everyone, look at the idiot who doesn't know shiat about genetics.


He's certainly living up to his tag.
 
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