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Beta Tested
2023-02-09 7:38:39 AM  
It's been the top seller on Steam for like a month and it isn't even out yet.  I don't think the boycott is working.
 
capt.snicklefritz [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-09 7:41:03 AM  
That'll show her.
 
Copperbelly watersnake
2023-02-09 7:44:09 AM  
THAT'S what got everyone so upset? I don't follow social media so by the time I heard about all the controversy it had become the Comment That Shall Not Be Named. People made it sound like she had labeled trans people rapists trying to sneak into women's restrooms.

I'm a Prius driving Unitarian Universalist, but even I find the term people who menstruate a bit ridiculous.
 
Jaws_Victim
2023-02-09 7:44:15 AM  
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I'm having a lot of fun playing it. I'm not going to let anyone tell me my morals or values for buying a video game.
 
AAAAGGGGHHHH
2023-02-09 7:45:53 AM  
Try as they might, the militants just can't seem to un-billionaire JK. She sits there in an actual castle on top of a mountain of gold like a dragon.
 
whereisian
2023-02-09 7:51:47 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: THAT'S what got everyone so upset? I don't follow social media so by the time I heard about all the controversy it had become the Comment That Shall Not Be Named. People made it sound like she had labeled trans people rapists trying to sneak into women's restrooms.

I'm a Prius driving Unitarian Universalist, but even I find the term people who menstruate a bit ridiculous.


I'm having a very similar reaction over here.

Granted, I believe in separating the art from the artist. Otherwise I would have to hate James Brown, and that man was goddamn funky.
 
born_yesterday [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 7:53:21 AM  

Jaws_Victim: [Fark user image image 425x411]

I'm having a lot of fun playing it. I'm not going to let anyone tell me my morals or values for buying a video game.


Does it let you enter your initials for a high score? Here's yours: WORSETHANHITLER
 
padraig
2023-02-09 7:54:20 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: THAT'S what got everyone so upset? I don't follow social media so by the time I heard about all the controversy it had become the Comment That Shall Not Be Named. People made it sound like she had labeled trans people rapists trying to sneak into women's restrooms.

I'm a Prius driving Unitarian Universalist, but even I find the term people who menstruate a bit ridiculous.


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Spartapuss
2023-02-09 7:56:02 AM  
In fact, Warner Bros was so concerned about the potential for a fan boycott that it issued a statement in September 2020 making it clear the Scottish author "is not directly involved in the creation of the game".

However, she will have received money from licensing her intellectual property to the developers.

So, she already got paid?
 
weddingsinger [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 7:58:28 AM  
They mention JK Rowling's anti-trans beliefs but left out that she promised to donate profits from the game to anti-trans causes.

They ignored the anti-semitism accusations entirely.

The last thing I'll note is this originally got attention when the lead developer was outed as a Gamergater, publicly defending sexual harrassers, that sort of thing. He got pushed out... I wanna say 2020?
 
AppleOptionEsc
2023-02-09 8:12:19 AM  

weddingsinger: They mention JK Rowling's anti-trans beliefs but left out that she promised to donate profits from the game to anti-trans causes.

They ignored the anti-semitism accusations entirely.

The last thing I'll note is this originally got attention when the lead developer was outed as a Gamergater, publicly defending sexual harrassers, that sort of thing. He got pushed out... I wanna say 2020?


People in general don't care. And I mean for most things.

Chick-fil-A? Don't care, hungry
Overwatch? Don't care, monkey brain
Diablo Immortal? Yes, I have phone, monkey brain
Football guy a rapist? Don't care, made big play
Amazon? Don't want to wait 3 days
Air BnB? Don't care, want cheap hotel
SouthWest? Don't care. Need vacation.

This controversy is about as long lived as the next big game release. Once all the vTubers and streamers find the next big game to play for content, no one will care anymore. The only controversy is that people care now. It happens every HP release, and it dies everytime it's 1 week old. More people want their content than they want to appear like they care.
 
Last Man on Earth
2023-02-09 8:20:33 AM  

Beta Tested: It's been the top seller on Steam for like a month and it isn't even out yet.  I don't think the boycott is working.


I'm not sure I see your point.  No, it's far from universal, and plenty of people are getting it anyway.  That describes every boycott ever.  A boycott isn't "I'm going to make it impossible for anyone to buy this", it's "I'm not going to buy it, tell people about it, and do my best to encourage other people to hold off as well."  A lot of people won't listen, but others might.  I can't stop her from getting anyone else's money, but I can damn well stop her from getting my money, and I can use the platforms available to me to urge other people to take that same stand.
 
MythDragon [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 8:43:44 AM  
I hope it lets you make your character with breasts and a big ol floppy dong like in Cyberpunk.

Not enough games let you do that.
 
likefunbutnot [OhFark]
2023-02-09 8:52:31 AM  
People are spoiling the game on Tumblr, at least in the queer-inclusive part of it I see. I think that's perfectly fine. Anything that might cost the people involved in this a sale.

Joanne is a miserable and intransigent bigot. Her money and prestige as the architect of so many childhoods give her a megaphone from which to  hate, but if any one or two small acts cost her reputation or a few sales, I support that.

I'm a real life asterisk in discussion of gender as binary, because I have a pesky extra chromosome. I'm male, but it's enough that there ARE intermediate expressios of gender that are conveniently forgotten that make arguments about trans inclusive important to me. Let people be who they say they are. It's no one's job to police your genitals, where you put them or what sort of package you wrap around them. Transwomen physically attacking other women in women's spaces is vanishingly rare (although one of the best known cases is convict in the UK) and finding men who are just willing to walk in to a bathroom to hurt someone are incredibly common. The issue that should RIGHTLY be of concern is the latter, not the former. It makes a lot more sense to spend effort trying to prevent cisgender males from engaging in terrible behavior than in bigotry against people who already have a rough path set before them.
 
ModernLuddite
2023-02-09 8:53:13 AM  
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padraig
2023-02-09 9:07:14 AM  

ModernLuddite: [Fark user image image 850x923]


Yeah, I sometimes roll my eyes at some weaponized accusation of anti-Semitism, but this is pretty surely intentional.

Although bogus accusations of anti-Semitism usually come from the right
 
Last Man on Earth
2023-02-09 9:14:59 AM  

likefunbutnot: Joanne is a miserable and intransigent bigot. Her money and prestige as the architect of so many childhoods give her a megaphone from which to hate, but if any one or two small acts cost her reputation or a few sales, I support that.


Yeah, that's the part that makes it tricky.  I don't necessarily begrudge people who decide to buy the game anyway.  Hell, I'd imagine there are plenty of trans people who plan to get it anyway.  The fact is, for a large part of two generations, Harry Potter was their gateway to reading, to fantasy stories and settings, and to geekdom in general.  For all the problems the stories have in hindsight (both culturally and in worldbuilding flaws), I don't think it's a stretch to say that the Geek Renaissance that Millennials and Gen Z have experienced had some of its earliest roots in HP.  Those stories and that setting mean a hell of a lot to a whole lot of people, you can't switch those memories off so easily, and I would certainly never want people to.

At the same time, the idea of "separate the art from the artist" gets a lot tougher when the artist openly boasts about how she views buying her stuff as support for her horrible views.  I get people saying "but my contribution is so small in the grand scheme, it doesn't even make a difference, and the memories are so valuable and important to me," but you could say the same about recycling, voting, and any other form of collective action.  Something as simple as abstaining from buying one video game, where the person behind it actively seeks to promote hatred and views sales as support, feels like a bare minimum when it comes to allyship.
 
anuran
2023-02-09 9:21:39 AM  

weddingsinger: They mention JK Rowling's anti-trans beliefs but left out that she promised to donate profits from the game to anti-trans causes.


I have heard that, but never seen a source. Got one?
 
Marcos P
2023-02-09 9:25:54 AM  
I saw someone made a website where you can enter a streamers name to see if they played Harry Potter so you can boycott them. That's really weird.
 
Glorious Golden Ass [OhFark]
2023-02-09 9:28:29 AM  
If there's one thing people are good at, it's ignoring hate if having to buy something else slightly inconveniences them.

Look how little reaction their was to Amazon doubling down on it's commitment to profit from antisemitism.  You certainly didn't care enough to actually cancel your prime membership and buy from somewhere else.
 
Decorus
2023-02-09 9:31:39 AM  
Yes the game is so anti trans that the owner of the 3 broomsticks is Trans and your character in the game can be trans.

The reason I don't support a boycott is pretty simple if I didn't buy something based on the fact that someone some where did bad things and is involved or will profit from what I purchase, I wouldn't be able to ever buy or do anything. That organic tomato I bought well the farmer who grew it uses illegals to pick it. That pack of almonds is helping destroy the water supply of the state of California. Going to Walmart is supporting the genocide of Muslims by China.
 
kryptoknightmare
2023-02-09 9:39:53 AM  
fark that game and everybody who buys that game. JK Rowling is an unapologetic, unrepentant asshole who is using her not-insignificant wealth and enormous influence to publicly campaign against transgender people, to oppose them having equal rights and access to healthcare, to slander and vilify them as pedophiles and as a threat to the safety of children and cis women.

Imagine being okay with supporting that piece of shiat, because you just can't not play a video game. Play another video game, for god's sake. Also, play one that isn't embarrassingly lame, like everything else related to Harry Potter
 
Olympic Trolling Judge
2023-02-09 9:47:24 AM  

ModernLuddite: [Fark user image image 850x923]


So it's true to the source material, is what you're saying.
 
oopsboom
2023-02-09 9:50:54 AM  
if anyone is unclear on the scope of Rowlings anti-trans twitter tirades, give this a read through
https://www.glamour.com/story/a-complete-breakdown-of-the-jk-rowling-transgender-comments-controversy
she has stated pretty horrible opinions on this topic.  repeatedly.

there's also another groups of people who have issues with the books directly.  for instance the treatment of slavery in HP (house elves).  they are initially introduced as an enslaved race.  and then after the first one is freed theres just...nothing.  after fans raised this issue and wanted some kind of followup she adds some biatcharacters who are freed slaves who liked being enslavedand has a major character explain that thats "just how they are" eg that it is their racial nature to want to be slaves and freeing them is/was wrong.  and then we get a whole book where a major character trying to free the slaves is played for laughs and scorned by every other character.

thats pretty solidly the exact opposite of what we should be teaching kids about slavery?
 
madgonad [OhFark]
2023-02-09 9:57:09 AM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: Try as they might, the militants just can't seem to un-billionaire JK. She sits there in an actual castle on top of a mountain of gold like a dragon.


She unbillionaired herself.

The only billionaire to lose that status due to donations while still alive. She is also one of the most liberal philanthropists. She is as liberal as they come with the exception of her TERF views.
 
mjbok
2023-02-09 9:57:34 AM  

Decorus: The reason I don't support a boycott is pretty simple if I didn't buy something based on the fact that someone some where did bad things and is involved or will profit from what I purchase, I wouldn't be able to ever buy or do anything.


This is very true.
 
oopsboom
2023-02-09 9:58:22 AM  
actually, as a separate thing, Rowling having shiat writing and putting herself in a corner then getting mad when the readers point that out, and turning the next book into revenge porn against the readers is a common theme.

readers asked what happened to the other house elf slaves after dobby was freed...
so she wrote that they all turned into depressed alcoholics from NOT being enslaved

readers asked why they didnt use the time turner things to save that cedric kid
so she wrote a non-canon play where they did and cedric (being saved) became evil and helped voldemort win
then she wrote in the next canon book the most ham handed thing ever "every time turner in the world is stored in one cabinet in a room and it falls over and they all break"

this happens over and over.  she write something immensely stupid - some massive world building loophole. readers point it out to her.  and 1 or 2 books later it gets a giant middle finger 'fix' to retcon it out of the story.
 
Mad_Radhu
2023-02-09 10:00:54 AM  
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Lumbar Puncture
2023-02-09 10:02:16 AM  

Beta Tested: It's been the top seller on Steam for like a month and it isn't even out yet.  I don't think the boycott is working.


It's a large budget highly produced game of a massively popular IP, plus it's not like it has a lot of competition otherwise, what else came out in the last month on Steam? Dead Space remake?

Yeah it was always going to be the top seller on release regardless of any boycott of the game.

Decorus: The reason I don't support a boycott is pretty simple if I didn't buy something based on the fact that someone some where did bad things and is involved or will profit from what I purchase, I wouldn't be able to ever buy or do anything. That organic tomato I bought well the farmer who grew it uses illegals to pick it. That pack of almonds is helping destroy the water supply of the state of California. Going to Walmart is supporting the genocide of Muslims by China


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madgonad [OhFark]
2023-02-09 10:02:56 AM  

kryptoknightmare: fark that game and everybody who buys that game. JK Rowling is an unapologetic, unrepentant asshole who is using her not-insignificant wealth and enormous influence to publicly campaign against transgender people, to oppose them having equal rights and access to healthcare, to slander and vilify them as pedophiles and as a threat to the safety of children and cis women.

Imagine being okay with supporting that piece of shiat, because you just can't not play a video game. Play another video game, for god's sake. Also, play one that isn't embarrassingly lame, like everything else related to Harry Potter


That is a lie. She fully supports providing resources and support for trans individuals. She just doesn't believe a transwoman is the same thing as a woman. If you ever mocked Rachel Dolezal (and the whole country did) you are a hypocrite on this issue.
 
Fano
2023-02-09 10:04:30 AM  

Last Man on Earth: likefunbutnot: Joanne is a miserable and intransigent bigot. Her money and prestige as the architect of so many childhoods give her a megaphone from which to hate, but if any one or two small acts cost her reputation or a few sales, I support that.

Yeah, that's the part that makes it tricky.  I don't necessarily begrudge people who decide to buy the game anyway.  Hell, I'd imagine there are plenty of trans people who plan to get it anyway.  The fact is, for a large part of two generations, Harry Potter was their gateway to reading, to fantasy stories and settings, and to geekdom in general.  For all the problems the stories have in hindsight (both culturally and in worldbuilding flaws), I don't think it's a stretch to say that the Geek Renaissance that Millennials and Gen Z have experienced had some of its earliest roots in HP.  Those stories and that setting mean a hell of a lot to a whole lot of people, you can't switch those memories off so easily, and I would certainly never want people to.

At the same time, the idea of "separate the art from the artist" gets a lot tougher when the artist openly boasts about how she views buying her stuff as support for her horrible views.  I get people saying "but my contribution is so small in the grand scheme, it doesn't even make a difference, and the memories are so valuable and important to me," but you could say the same about recycling, voting, and any other form of collective action.  Something as simple as abstaining from buying one video game, where the person behind it actively seeks to promote hatred and views sales as support, feels like a bare minimum when it comes to allyship.


What's even worse is that the Potter fandom, seemed to have a lot of people that were encouraged to be their best true selves and feel comfortable coming out as gay or trans or whatever their being was. The fanfic community most certainly was. I feel like it was even a strong element of the transformation of public opinion in the 90s and 2000s.
And then it turns out Rowling wasn't inclusive at all. It would be like Morrisey giving money to rounding up Mexicans.
 
LowbrowDeluxe
2023-02-09 10:07:34 AM  

madgonad: kryptoknightmare: fark that game and everybody who buys that game. JK Rowling is an unapologetic, unrepentant asshole who is using her not-insignificant wealth and enormous influence to publicly campaign against transgender people, to oppose them having equal rights and access to healthcare, to slander and vilify them as pedophiles and as a threat to the safety of children and cis women.

Imagine being okay with supporting that piece of shiat, because you just can't not play a video game. Play another video game, for god's sake. Also, play one that isn't embarrassingly lame, like everything else related to Harry Potter

That is a lie. She fully supports providing resources and support for trans individuals. She just doesn't believe a transwoman is the same thing as a woman. If you ever mocked Rachel Dolezal (and the whole country did) you are a hypocrite on this issue.


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oopsboom
2023-02-09 10:08:15 AM  

madgonad: That is a lie. She fully supports providing resources and support for trans individuals. She just doesn't believe a transwoman is the same thing as a woman. If you ever mocked Rachel Dolezal (and the whole country did) you are a hypocrite on this issue.


thank you for that perfect description of a person funding seperate but equal water fountains
 
Last Man on Earth
2023-02-09 10:13:45 AM  

mjbok: Decorus: The reason I don't support a boycott is pretty simple if I didn't buy something based on the fact that someone some where did bad things and is involved or will profit from what I purchase, I wouldn't be able to ever buy or do anything.

This is very true.


Is it, though?  "If you can't do everything, you shouldn't do anything" rings true to you?  "You must pay equal attention to all problems at all times" is an absurd parody of reasoning.  Let's scale the argument up to admittedly-absurd heights:  Do you know how many WWII-era soldiers were also really racist?  Conversely, how many opposed white supremacist movements at home, but the reaction to the Nazis was "that's an ocean away"?  Obviously the ideal would be "don't hate Black people and fight the Nazis," but one is better than neither.

This is a way to refrain from contributing to real harm in a very direct way, by refraining from one very simple thing that doesn't even really create a hardship or lacking for themselves.  Could people do more?  Sure.  Should they do more?  Again, that would be lovely.  Should the fact that they aren't doing more mean they therefore shouldn't do anything?  That's just absurd.
 
lilplatinum
2023-02-09 10:19:11 AM  

oopsboom: actually, as a separate thing, Rowling having shiat writing and putting herself in a corner then getting mad when the readers point that out, and turning the next book into revenge porn against the readers is a common theme.

readers asked what happened to the other house elf slaves after dobby was freed...
so she wrote that they all turned into depressed alcoholics from NOT being enslaved

readers asked why they didnt use the time turner things to save that cedric kid
so she wrote a non-canon play where they did and cedric (being saved) became evil and helped voldemort win
then she wrote in the next canon book the most ham handed thing ever "every time turner in the world is stored in one cabinet in a room and it falls over and they all break"

this happens over and over.  she write something immensely stupid - some massive world building loophole. readers point it out to her.  and 1 or 2 books later it gets a giant middle finger 'fix' to retcon it out of the story.


I'd don't know what's sadder, her writing or the fact that millions of ostensible adults actually consume it and other children's/ya literature so voraciously.
 
mjbok
2023-02-09 10:22:42 AM  

Last Man on Earth: Is it, though? "If you can't do everything, you shouldn't do anything" rings true to you? "You must pay equal attention to all problems at all times" is an absurd parody of reasoning.


How do you pick what offenses are acceptable?  Can't do HP stuff because of JK and transphobia anti-semitism.  Is misogyny and beating women okay?  Nope.  Say goodbye to The Beatles and Bond.

lilplatinum: I'd don't know what's sadder, her writing or the fact that millions of ostensible adults actually consume it and other children's/ya literature so voraciously.


Anything that got (or gets) more people reading is a good thing.
 
pueblonative
2023-02-09 10:23:49 AM  

Marcos P: I saw someone made a website where you can enter a streamers name to see if they played Harry Potter so you can boycott them. That's really weird.


It got taken down  havetheystreamedthatwizardgame   put it in your url

if you don't like JK Rowling's views and want to express it with a boycott that's your right.  But as soon as you start expanding your boycott to secondary targets  you're gonna have a lot of people looking at you as a self righteous twat (especially when this is over a video game)

*Note: universal "you" not specific you.
 
HotWingConspiracy
2023-02-09 10:26:57 AM  

oopsboom: actually, as a separate thing, Rowling having shiat writing and putting herself in a corner then getting mad when the readers point that out, and turning the next book into revenge porn against the readers is a common theme.

readers asked what happened to the other house elf slaves after dobby was freed...
so she wrote that they all turned into depressed alcoholics from NOT being enslaved

readers asked why they didnt use the time turner things to save that cedric kid
so she wrote a non-canon play where they did and cedric (being saved) became evil and helped voldemort win
then she wrote in the next canon book the most ham handed thing ever "every time turner in the world is stored in one cabinet in a room and it falls over and they all break"

this happens over and over.  she write something immensely stupid - some massive world building loophole. readers point it out to her.  and 1 or 2 books later it gets a giant middle finger 'fix' to retcon it out of the story.


I heard an interview with an actor that played the role of a dad on some stupid Nickelodeon show. He said one time he noticed a glaring plot hole in one of the episodes and brought it up the the head writer. The writer stared at him incredulously, and reminded him they're writing a show for stupid kids that don't care about plot holes. It doesn't matter, the target audience doesn't care. If you care, you're not the target audience.
 
Last Man on Earth
2023-02-09 10:35:36 AM  

Fano: What's even worse is that the Potter fandom, seemed to have a lot of people that were encouraged to be their best true selves and feel comfortable coming out as gay or trans or whatever their being was. The fanfic community most certainly was. I feel like it was even a strong element of the transformation of public opinion in the 90s and 2000s.
And then it turns out Rowling wasn't inclusive at all. It would be like Morrisey giving money to rounding up Mexicans.


That definitely can't be underestimated.  It goes hand in hand with the fantasy/geek fandom generally:  Exploring new, mysterious worlds comes with the chance to be your truest self, and to explore other versions of what that self might look like.  As a cis guy, I can't speak to it firsthand, but how many LGBT people explored their identity or orientation for the first time through playing someone "else" in the safe, comfortably fictional lens of D&D or WoW?

Harry Potter's existence in the "real world" invited self-insertion and the idea of actually being whisked away to this new place for a whole lot of young people, a place where people who didn't feel like they fit in could be accepted and loved.  That was powerful enough for geeky/bookish kids, I can only imagine how it must have hit for people who were genuinely struggling with their identity.  That's a large part of what makes her stances hurt so badly on an emotional level for people; it feels like a fundamental betrayal for them.  It's like Cosby's darkness coming to light, or Atticus Finch being a Klansman in that manuscript Lee's family released against her wishes.
 
Lumbar Puncture
2023-02-09 10:38:24 AM  

mjbok: How do you pick what offenses are acceptable?  Can't do HP stuff because of JK and transphobia anti-semitism.  Is misogyny and beating women okay?  Nope.  Say goodbye to The Beatles and Bond


Oddly enough people manage to do this all the time! People manage in different ways to separate art from artist or product from company, or don't, on a case by case basis every day. Some folks don't buy a Harry Potter game because it's creator is a bigot and that effects their ability to enjoy the product. Other people can still condemn the actions of an artist, like Michael Jackson, but still enjoy the music made.

I like pro wrestling and I can't rewatch a Chris Benoit match and enjoy it. There's a rock band whose lead singer engaged fans for him to get their toddler age kids for sex, can't unknow that factoid and certainly not going to listen to that band ever again. At least one Farker wont go see Avatar 2 just because they dislike the type of movies Cameron chooses to make now. Tucker Carson hated that M&Ms mascot no longer wore high heels. Plenty of people said they would boycott the NFL for supporting black lives.

There's plenty of reasons people don't buy stuff. Rowling being a bigot is one of them for some people. I know, I know, 'butwhatabout another artist'? That doesn't matter, each person makes their own decision for how they spend their money and your justifications and excuses for why you do so don't apply to someone else. Spend your money, enjoy your purchase, and maybe  don't discourage someone else is saying 'I wish things were better' just because there's a lot of bad in the world.
 
Last Man on Earth
2023-02-09 10:40:01 AM  

pueblonative: if you don't like JK Rowling's views and want to express it with a boycott that's your right. But as soon as you start expanding your boycott to secondary targets you're gonna have a lot of people looking at you as a self righteous twat (especially when this is over a video game)

*Note: universal "you" not specific you.


I'll definitely agree with that much.  There are times it might be understandable, but for this, just not watching that particular stream would be more than sufficient.  Hell, signal-boosting aside, it seems like streamers are a way to show the game and the story in a way that still minimizes what Rowling actually gets.
 
mofa [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 10:41:03 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: weddingsinger: They mention JK Rowling's anti-trans beliefs but left out that she promised to donate profits from the game to anti-trans causes.

They ignored the anti-semitism accusations entirely.

The last thing I'll note is this originally got attention when the lead developer was outed as a Gamergater, publicly defending sexual harrassers, that sort of thing. He got pushed out... I wanna say 2020?

People in general don't care. And I mean for most things.

Chick-fil-A? Don't care, hungry
Overwatch? Don't care, monkey brain
Diablo Immortal? Yes, I have phone, monkey brain
Football guy a rapist? Don't care, made big play
Amazon? Don't want to wait 3 days
Air BnB? Don't care, want cheap hotel
SouthWest? Don't care. Need vacation.

This controversy is about as long lived as the next big game release. Once all the vTubers and streamers find the next big game to play for content, no one will care anymore. The only controversy is that people care now. It happens every HP release, and it dies everytime it's 1 week old. More people want their content than they want to appear like they care.


I want to hate Amazon, but last night around 11 PM I noticed that the elastic band on my mattress pad had finally given out after like 12 years, so I ordered a replacement. It was delivered at 4:30 AM, literally before any retail store could even open for me to buy one.
 
pueblonative
2023-02-09 10:43:19 AM  
Ok, now you really aren't helping
https://www.dexerto.com/hogwarts-legacy/hogwarts-legacy-protestors-are-hijacking-the-games-hashtag-with-spoilers-2056277/
 
Bslim [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 10:44:16 AM  

Decorus: Yes the game is so anti trans that the owner of the 3 broomsticks is Trans and your character in the game can be trans.

The reason I don't support a boycott is pretty simple if I didn't buy something based on the fact that someone some where did bad things and is involved or will profit from what I purchase, I wouldn't be able to ever buy or do anything. That organic tomato I bought well the farmer who grew it uses illegals to pick it. That pack of almonds is helping destroy the water supply of the state of California. Going to Walmart is supporting the genocide of Muslims by China.


Nobody is forcing you to support/not support a boycott or any other goddamned thing.
You realize that, right.

NOBODY IS FORCING ANYONE

Some people want to, those are not you.
 
EqualOpportunityEnslaver
2023-02-09 10:45:59 AM  

madgonad: The only billionaire to lose that status due to donations while still alive.


Yvon Chouinard may like a word
 
Last Man on Earth
2023-02-09 10:46:31 AM  
This is kind of tangential to the topic, but if you're interested in a group of comedians and performers exploring the kind of setting at play (loving it while still ripping on it for comedy) and also unambiguously saying "fark TERFs", I'm just gonna signal-boost this:

The Chosen Ones (Ep. 1) | Misfits and Magic [Full Episode]
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Dromaeosaur
2023-02-09 10:47:35 AM  

Last Man on Earth: Beta Tested: It's been the top seller on Steam for like a month and it isn't even out yet.  I don't think the boycott is working.

I'm not sure I see your point.  No, it's far from universal, and plenty of people are getting it anyway.  That describes every boycott ever.  A boycott isn't "I'm going to make it impossible for anyone to buy this", it's "I'm not going to buy it, tell people about it, and do my best to encourage other people to hold off as well."  A lot of people won't listen, but others might.  I can't stop her from getting anyone else's money, but I can damn well stop her from getting my money, and I can use the platforms available to me to urge other people to take that same stand.


It's weird. When you tell them you don't care if it still does gangbusters, just that you don't want your money to enrich someone you despise, they switch to calling you names and telling you how stupid you are. It's the whole South Park ethos that got seared into the smooth brains of certain people in the aughts and tens: If you care about something, you're stupid. If you care enough to change something you do, you're really stupid. If you care enough to want others to change, you're the stupidest motherfarker to ever be called human.

Selective nihilism mixed with the need to feel superior.
 
Dromaeosaur
2023-02-09 10:52:21 AM  

Decorus: Yes the game is so anti trans that the owner of the 3 broomsticks is Trans and your character in the game can be trans.

The reason I don't support a boycott is pretty simple if I didn't buy something based on the fact that someone some where did bad things and is involved or will profit from what I purchase, I wouldn't be able to ever buy or do anything. That organic tomato I bought well the farmer who grew it uses illegals to pick it. That pack of almonds is helping destroy the water supply of the state of California. Going to Walmart is supporting the genocide of Muslims by China.


Congrats on discovering capitalism. Literally nothing you require to participate in society was made free of human exploitation and misery. you can either pick and choose the things you actually can control, i.e., not giving your money directly to horrible people, or you can lean into the nihilism and let it gnaw your personality into a pizza cutter; All edge, no point.
 
Last Man on Earth
2023-02-09 11:03:43 AM  
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replacementcool
2023-02-09 11:03:46 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: THAT'S what got everyone so upset? I don't follow social media so by the time I heard about all the controversy it had become the Comment That Shall Not Be Named. People made it sound like she had labeled trans people rapists trying to sneak into women's restrooms.

I'm a Prius driving Unitarian Universalist, but even I find the term people who menstruate a bit ridiculous.


That's not even close the only thing she's said, she's been saying vile shiat about trans people for years now
 
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