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BigMax [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 2:45:23 AM  
"I'll show you guys!  I'm going to record a project where each of you will be entitled to songwriting royalties!!"
 
FlashHarry [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 6:57:08 AM  
Roger Waters is like George Lucas. Yes, he had the vision, but it was much better executed by other people.
 
Carter Pewterschmidt [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 7:18:42 AM  
A reboot of DSOTM and a reboot of Fawlty Towers? Is nothing sacred?
 
raerae1980 [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 7:32:06 AM  
He just sounds so bitter anymore.
 
Glitchwerks
2023-02-09 7:47:58 AM  
Roger Waters really seems quite content to burn everything he ever did to the ground before he dies.
 
gunsmack
2023-02-09 7:49:52 AM  
We get it, you haven't written anything worth a sh*t in decades.
 
Fear the Clam
2023-02-09 8:01:08 AM  
This time I'm gonna autotune that lady on "The Great Gig in the Sky."
 
thesharkman
2023-02-09 8:01:24 AM  

gunsmack: We get it, you haven't written anything worth a sh*t in decades.


Well maybe he needs something new to tour behind after doing "The Wall" so many times
 
FlashHarry [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 8:01:41 AM  
Barrett was Floyd's early voice, Gilmour was its later voice. That must drive Waters nuts.
 
FLMountainMan
2023-02-09 8:14:42 AM  

FlashHarry: Roger Waters is like George Lucas. Yes, he had the vision, but it was much better executed by other people.


Maybe Bob Dylan would be a more direct analogy.
 
CarnySaur [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 8:14:42 AM  
In related news, MGM is going to be remaking The Wizard of Oz.
 
H31N0US
2023-02-09 8:16:36 AM  

BigMax: "I'll show you guys!  I'm going to record a project where each of you will be entitled to songwriting royalties!!"


They'll be rich with tens of dollars.
 
EdgeRunner [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-09 8:17:13 AM  
"Of course we were a band, there were four of us, we all contributed - but it's my project and I wrote it. So... blah!"

Truly the rebuttal of a master wordsmith.
 
sleze
2023-02-09 8:22:09 AM  
Why would you yell at PRISM.  I used to love it!

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rockymountainrider
2023-02-09 8:22:37 AM  
If he has a problem with Prism, then they will fly in on their Space Ship Superstar and let Armageddon Take him away.
 
bluorangefyre [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-09 8:24:35 AM  
I honestly don't see Robert Plant in a hurry to redo any Led Zeppelin album in the studio, even if he's done different arrangements of the songs live.

Maybe this is what pissed off David Gilmour's wife?
 
drewogatory
2023-02-09 8:27:48 AM  

gunsmack: We get it, you haven't written anything worth a sh*t in decades.


Since Animals. 45 farking years.  All these guys (except Nick) can fark right off at this point. The Wall and The Final Cut should have been Waters solo albums from the beginning and Gilmour has never done shiat on his own worth listening to, he's just not quite as much of an asshole. Floyd died in 1977.
 
DoctorCal
2023-02-09 9:13:38 AM  
You ever try to do that inhaling scream thing?
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2023-02-09 9:19:41 AM  

DoctorCal: You ever try to do that inhaling scream thing?


Jackson Jeffrey Jackson
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DoctorCal
2023-02-09 9:26:39 AM  

LewDux: DoctorCal: You ever try to do that inhaling scream thing?

[YouTube video: Jackson Jeffrey Jackson]


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Thanks for sharing
 
Dr Jack Badofsky
2023-02-09 9:39:24 AM  
It sucked then, and will suck even more redone.
 
freakingmoron
2023-02-09 9:45:11 AM  
You know when you've done something, certainly if you create a piece of music, you then hear it with fresh ears when you play it for somebody else. And at that point I thought to myself, "Wow, this is a pretty complete piece of work", and I had every confidence that people would respond to it. - Roger Waters 2006


"Because not enough people recognised what it's about, what it was I was saying then," Waters said in an interview with The Telegraph- Roger Waters 2023

How completely lacking a sense of self-awareness does a person have to be to not recognize that they are attempting to rewrite their own reality? Is he trying to gaslight himself?

He's not drinking his own bathwater, he's Waters-boarding himself.
 
FlashHarry [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 9:45:43 AM  

FLMountainMan: Maybe Bob Dylan would be a more direct analogy.


maybe, but he doesn't revisit his stuff to "improve" it like GL and RW have.
 
DoctorCal
2023-02-09 10:28:47 AM  
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browntimmy
2023-02-09 10:49:39 AM  
It sounds like it would be a nightmare to be in a band with this guy.
 
fragMasterFlash [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-09 10:56:11 AM  
Roger needs some "new" old material to lipsync on tour for the next 40 years? F that guy, and F you if you still pay him to recycle PF classics.
 
Coco LaFemme [OhFark]
2023-02-09 11:11:00 AM  

drewogatory: gunsmack: We get it, you haven't written anything worth a sh*t in decades.

Since Animals. 45 farking years.  All these guys (except Nick) can fark right off at this point. The Wall and The Final Cut should have been Waters solo albums from the beginning and Gilmour has never done shiat on his own worth listening to, he's just not quite as much of an asshole. Floyd died in 1977.


That's an outright lie.

His first solo album is really good. His second, not so much. On an Island? Goddamn masterpiece. Rattle That Lock is also good, but nowhere as good as On an Island.
 
H31N0US
2023-02-09 11:17:51 AM  

drewogatory: gunsmack: We get it, you haven't written anything worth a sh*t in decades.

Since Animals. 45 farking years.  All these guys (except Nick) can fark right off at this point. The Wall and The Final Cut should have been Waters solo albums from the beginning and Gilmour has never done shiat on his own worth listening to, he's just not quite as much of an asshole. Floyd died in 1977.


I like the pros and cons of hitchhiking, and I also like momentary lapse of reason.
 
drewogatory
2023-02-09 11:32:24 AM  

Coco LaFemme: drewogatory: gunsmack: We get it, you haven't written anything worth a sh*t in decades.

Since Animals. 45 farking years.  All these guys (except Nick) can fark right off at this point. The Wall and The Final Cut should have been Waters solo albums from the beginning and Gilmour has never done shiat on his own worth listening to, he's just not quite as much of an asshole. Floyd died in 1977.

That's an outright lie.

His first solo album is really good. His second, not so much. On an Island? Goddamn masterpiece. Rattle That Lock is also good, but nowhere as good as On an Island.


Counterpoint: David Gilmour and About Face were mediocre at best and the newer stuff is crap. Now are the worse than Momentary or Division Bell? Probably not, but that's not saying much. And the tour for Momentary sucked.
 
Coco LaFemme [OhFark]
2023-02-09 11:54:34 AM  

drewogatory: Coco LaFemme: drewogatory: gunsmack: We get it, you haven't written anything worth a sh*t in decades.

Since Animals. 45 farking years.  All these guys (except Nick) can fark right off at this point. The Wall and The Final Cut should have been Waters solo albums from the beginning and Gilmour has never done shiat on his own worth listening to, he's just not quite as much of an asshole. Floyd died in 1977.

That's an outright lie.

His first solo album is really good. His second, not so much. On an Island? Goddamn masterpiece. Rattle That Lock is also good, but nowhere as good as On an Island.

Counterpoint: David Gilmour and About Face were mediocre at best and the newer stuff is crap. Now are the worse than Momentary or Division Bell? Probably not, but that's not saying much. And the tour for Momentary sucked.


AMLoR and The Division Bell are better than The Wall and The Final Cut put together, IMO. Yeah, Lapse is 80s to the max, what with the synthesizers and drum machines, but aside from maybe 3 or 4 songs, The Wall is garbage. It's Roger Waters masturbating for two whole albums. The Final Cut is unlistenable crap. The Division Bell has some hokey moments, but Cluster One, Poles Apart, and High Hopes are exceptional.
 
drewogatory
2023-02-09 11:56:16 AM  

Coco LaFemme: drewogatory: Coco LaFemme: drewogatory: gunsmack: We get it, you haven't written anything worth a sh*t in decades.

Since Animals. 45 farking years.  All these guys (except Nick) can fark right off at this point. The Wall and The Final Cut should have been Waters solo albums from the beginning and Gilmour has never done shiat on his own worth listening to, he's just not quite as much of an asshole. Floyd died in 1977.

That's an outright lie.

His first solo album is really good. His second, not so much. On an Island? Goddamn masterpiece. Rattle That Lock is also good, but nowhere as good as On an Island.

Counterpoint: David Gilmour and About Face were mediocre at best and the newer stuff is crap. Now are the worse than Momentary or Division Bell? Probably not, but that's not saying much. And the tour for Momentary sucked.

AMLoR and The Division Bell are better than The Wall and The Final Cut put together, IMO. Yeah, Lapse is 80s to the max, what with the synthesizers and drum machines, but aside from maybe 3 or 4 songs, The Wall is garbage. It's Roger Waters masturbating for two whole albums. The Final Cut is unlistenable crap. The Division Bell has some hokey moments, but Cluster One, Poles Apart, and High Hopes are exceptional.


I absolutely hate both The Wall and The Final Cut.
 
Jackpot777
2023-02-09 12:02:32 PM  
Slight tangent, but this is what happened when American radio pandered to Baby Boomers for too long. Someone here said Pink Floyd died in 1977? Well, Classic Rock radio stations acted like the vast majority of British acts that hadn't made it by 1977 didn't exist. They acted like every British guitarist since died in a plague. So they've been playing what Boomers listened to: Genesis, Floyd, The Who, Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton and that core audience is dying of old age. But everything that Generation X and after were into for the decades after? Didn't get a play.

They'd be playing "Another Brick In The Wall Part Two" for the zillionth time after forty years, but absolutely sweet f*ck all from The Cure's album Disintegration (like "Fascination Street") for the last thirty years or Oasis with "D'You Know What I Mean?" for twenty years. As a result, the rest of the English-speaking world knows considers acts like The Cure and Oasis (and Blur, Sisters Of Mercy, Status Quo, Pulp, Elastica, The Jam, Mansun, The Clash, The Stone Roses, Suede) to be classic rock acts but success in America is dictated by radio play and radio play is dictated by advertisers. So radio stations pandered played a game of 'Member This? to the most possible people for almost half a f*cking century now and it has stagnated the pool.

These rock stations held off for so long, they skipped the incredible eras from Punk to Britpop and now they seem to be dipping into playing milquetoast bands that all tried to sound like Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam (Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Alice in Chains, Candlebox, Silverchair, etc.) but ended up sounding like bad impersonations of the Swedish Chef from The Muppet Show. Worse, they all sound interchangeable.

So what's the result of American radio, and by association the American music industry, playing it by a formula meant to appeal to Indeed.com and AutoZone?

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This. This is the result.
 
drewogatory
2023-02-09 12:36:13 PM  
People who get most of their music from commercial radio just don't really give a shiat about music. But,OTOH, I disappeared up the ass of my own "collection" as soon as it was big enough to do so, so I have some ridiculous blind spots for someone who listens to music 14 hours a day everyday.
 
Ken VeryBigLiar
2023-02-09 12:57:23 PM  
Yes Roger, you've been banging on for decades it's about whether humans can be humane to each other. And WYWH is about absence, and on and bloody on...
 
Ed Grubermann [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 1:33:42 PM  

raerae1980: He just sounds so bitter anymore.


Welcome to the last thirty years.
 
EdgeRunner [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-09 1:55:45 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Yes Roger, you've been banging on for decades it's about whether humans can be humane to each other. And WYWH is about absence, and on and bloody on...


But can he be decent to his own former bandmates? Or anyone else? Waters has always been part of the problem wailing that everyone else isn't being the solution.
 
DoctorCal
2023-02-09 2:00:04 PM  
Opinions clearly vary.

There are probably farkers who would say Draw the Line is really where Aerosmith started to hit their creative peak.
 
drewogatory
2023-02-09 2:10:46 PM  

DoctorCal: Opinions clearly vary.

There are probably farkers who would say Draw the Line is really where Aerosmith started to hit their creative peak.


Every time they come up someone will claim that Pump or Get a Grip "kicks ass".
 
El Rich-o
2023-02-09 2:24:19 PM  

drewogatory: DoctorCal: Opinions clearly vary.

There are probably farkers who would say Draw the Line is really where Aerosmith started to hit their creative peak.

Every time they come up someone will claim that Pump or Get a Grip "kicks ass".


Joe Perry and Steven Tyler both suffered massive drug overdoses towards the end of recording Night in the Ruts. They were comatose for 6 or 7 years before they both miraculously awakened at the same time. They recorded Done With Mirrors and promptly dropped dead.
 
Telephone Sanitizer Second Class
2023-02-09 2:27:50 PM  
Screw that guy. I choose to remember Pink Floyd with a good bassist and Dave Gilmour in peak form.

Pink Floyd - "One of These Days" Delicate Sound of Thunder 2019
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The_Six_Fingered_Man
2023-02-09 2:31:47 PM  

BigMax: "I'll show you guys!  I'm going to record a project where each of you will be entitled to songwriting royalties!!"


If he rewrites the music, I am not sure that the others have a leg to stand on. All of the lyrics were originally written by Waters.

That said, even though Pink Floyd is my most favorite band ever to play music, this is something that I just cannot get behind. Waters has been an absolute ahole to everyone. He's pissed that Gilmour and Mason did that Ukraine special, he's probably pissed that they have been getting most of the accolades surrounding the 50th anniversary, and he's doing this out of spite, which seems to be his standard operating mode lately.

Kinda makes me angry, because DSoTM is second only to The Wall for me and I would love to hear it again "for the first time." But I am not going to listen to this because of Waters. Douche.
 
DoctorCal
2023-02-09 3:15:27 PM  

drewogatory: DoctorCal: Opinions clearly vary.

There are probably farkers who would say Draw the Line is really where Aerosmith started to hit their creative peak.

Every time they come up someone will claim that Pump or Get a Grip "kicks ass".


Draw the Line... so I did.
When your 14 year old fanboys know you released a pile of feces...
 
drewogatory
2023-02-09 3:21:13 PM  

DoctorCal: drewogatory: DoctorCal: Opinions clearly vary.

There are probably farkers who would say Draw the Line is really where Aerosmith started to hit their creative peak.

Every time they come up someone will claim that Pump or Get a Grip "kicks ass".

Draw the Line... so I did.
When your 14 year old fanboys know you released a pile of feces...


I've only ever liked Get Your Wings (which I actually like quite a bit) and Rocks. It turns out that's all the Aerosmith I've ever needed.  I'm not sure what other bands have one record I really like and a bunch I don't care about but there must be others. I should figure it out sometime.
 
phishrace
2023-02-09 3:39:39 PM  

FlashHarry: FLMountainMan: Maybe Bob Dylan would be a more direct analogy.

maybe, but he doesn't revisit his stuff to "improve" it like GL and RW have.


Jimmy Page has been improving his earlier work forever without asking people to look at him. He's actually pretty good at it. Soft touch.
 
DreamyAltarBoy
2023-02-09 3:51:49 PM  
All I've got is a great big "Fark you tankie!"
 
DoctorCal
2023-02-09 4:05:50 PM  

drewogatory: DoctorCal: drewogatory: DoctorCal: Opinions clearly vary.

There are probably farkers who would say Draw the Line is really where Aerosmith started to hit their creative peak.

Every time they come up someone will claim that Pump or Get a Grip "kicks ass".

Draw the Line... so I did.
When your 14 year old fanboys know you released a pile of feces...

I've only ever liked Get Your Wings (which I actually like quite a bit) and Rocks. It turns out that's all the Aerosmith I've ever needed.  I'm not sure what other bands have one record I really like and a bunch I don't care about but there must be others. I should figure it out sometime.


I started to fade even at Rocks. Even now it's hard to put my finger on why. High expectations is certainly part of it.

El Rich-o: drewogatory: DoctorCal: Opinions clearly vary.

There are probably farkers who would say Draw the Line is really where Aerosmith started to hit their creative peak.

Every time they come up someone will claim that Pump or Get a Grip "kicks ass".

Joe Perry and Steven Tyler both suffered massive drug overdoses towards the end of recording Night in the Ruts. They were comatose for 6 or 7 years before they both miraculously awakened at the same time. They recorded Done With Mirrors and promptly dropped dead.


By the time they became individually and collectively coherent again, worlds of better music had opened to me and they were completely irrelevant. Without looking it up, I can't even tell whether you're joking because Done with Mirrors is an album where Billy Krespo is there instead of Joe Perry, or if it's the album with s hiats, videos starring Alicia Silverstone, and sold 47 million copies.
 
Truthman
2023-02-09 4:08:03 PM  

drewogatory: gunsmack: We get it, you haven't written anything worth a sh*t in decades.

Since Animals. 45 farking years.  All these guys (except Nick) can fark right off at this point. The Wall and The Final Cut should have been Waters solo albums from the beginning and Gilmour has never done shiat on his own worth listening to, he's just not quite as much of an asshole. Floyd died in 1977.


Agree 100%
 
hammettman
2023-02-09 4:12:35 PM  
Is this simply a way to cash in with new buyers of the album and reap the entirety of the profits?  If he has the lyric credit and records new music, it all goes to him, right?
 
kermit the forg [TotalFark]
2023-02-09 4:23:34 PM  

Jackpot777: Slight tangent, but this is what happened when American radio pandered to Baby Boomers for too long. Someone here said Pink Floyd died in 1977? Well, Classic Rock radio stations acted like the vast majority of British acts that hadn't made it by 1977 didn't exist. They acted like every British guitarist since died in a plague. So they've been playing what Boomers listened to: Genesis, Floyd, The Who, Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton and that core audience is dying of old age. But everything that Generation X and after were into for the decades after? Didn't get a play.

They'd be playing "Another Brick In The Wall Part Two" for the zillionth time after forty years, but absolutely sweet f*ck all from The Cure's album Disintegration (like "Fascination Street") for the last thirty years or Oasis with "D'You Know What I Mean?" for twenty years. As a result, the rest of the English-speaking world knows considers acts like The Cure and Oasis (and Blur, Sisters Of Mercy, Status Quo, Pulp, Elastica, The Jam, Mansun, The Clash, The Stone Roses, Suede) to be classic rock acts but success in America is dictated by radio play and radio play is dictated by advertisers. So radio stations pandered played a game of 'Member This? to the most possible people for almost half a f*cking century now and it has stagnated the pool.

These rock stations held off for so long, they skipped the incredible eras from Punk to Britpop and now they seem to be dipping into playing milquetoast bands that all tried to sound like Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam (Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Alice in Chains, Candlebox, Silverchair, etc.) but ended up sounding like bad impersonations of the Swedish Chef from The Muppet Show. Worse, they all sound interchangeable.

So what's the result of American radio, and by association the American music industry, playing it by a formula meant to appeal to Indeed.com and AutoZone?

[Fark user image image 640x478]

This. This is the result.


Dude, just look for a streaming service you like and play what you want.  You can play (almost) any album now; you don't even need to think about terrestrial radio anymore.  Sure it sucks, but there are viable alternatives now
 
DoctorCal
2023-02-09 4:35:39 PM  
Pol Pot and Idi Amin were both in The Yardbirds at one point.
 
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