"I'm getting too old for this shiat."

Ragin' Asian: When I say, "Opus", you say, "Dei"!

Opus!

From the article:  It adds that "RTCs are typically categorized by the rejection of the Second Vatican Council (Vatican II) as a valid church council; disdain for most of the popes elected since Vatican II, particularly Pope Francis and Pope John Paul II; and frequent adherence to anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ, and white supremacist ideology. Radical-traditionalist Catholics compose a small minority of overall Roman Catholic adherents and are separate and distinct from 'traditionalist Catholics' who prefer the Traditional Latin Mass and pre-Vatican II teachings and traditions, without the more extremist ideological beliefs and violent rhetoric."

Oh yeah, I remember reading about these nut when I was doing a research paper on Father Leonard Feeney while I was in theology school.  Did I mention that they're nuts?  'Cause that can't be overstressed. The Feeneyites were technically separated from the Church before Vatican II.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Feeney


But the post-Vatican II separatists are even nuttier, particular Pope Michael, the "Dr." Rand Paul of Popes.

David Allen Bawden (September 22, 1959 - August 2, 2022),[1] who took the name Pope Michael, was an American citizen and a conclavist claimant to the papacy. In 1990 Bawden was elected pope by a group of six laypeople, including himself and his parents, who had come to believe that the Catholic Church had apostatized from the Catholic faith since Vatican II, and that there had been no legitimate popes elected since the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bawden

Oh, and what a surprise--the followers of Feeney are pro-Confederacy.

https://catholicism.org/catholicism-south.html

avian: Oh look, the National Review is trying to bash the SPLC. Are they worried they might be added to the SPLC list?
I'll pick the SPLC every time in that comparison.

National Review should have been added to the list a long time ago:

Mr. Kilpatrick [the "Let 'Em Crash" guy] also took aim at the 1965 Voting Rights Act in the April 20, 1965 issue. "Must We Repeal the Constitution to Give the Negro the Vote?" he asked, accusing the bill's supporters of "perverting the Constitution." He thought certain blacks should be given the right to vote but notes, "Over most of this century, the great bulk of Southern Negroes have been genuinely unqualified for the franchise." He also defended segregation as rational for Southerners. "Segregation is a fact, and more than a fact; it is a state of mind. It lies in the Southern subconscious next to man's most elementary instincts, for self-preservation, for survival, for the untroubled continuation of a not intolerable way of life."

.....

In a column written five months before the passage of the 1965 Voting Rights Act and called "The Issue at Selma," [Buckley] called for giving blacks the vote but perhaps restricting the franchise to high school graduates. He sympathized with the Southern position writing, "In much of the South, what is so greatly feared is irresponsible, mobocratic rule, and it is a fear not easily dissipated, because it is well-grounded that if the entire Negro population in the South were suddenly given the vote, and were to use it as a bloc, and pursuant to directives handed down by some of the more demagogic leaders, chaos would ensue." He also warned of "a suddenly enfranchised, violently embittered Negro population which will take the vote and wield it as an instrument of vengeance, shaking down the walls of Jericho even to their foundations, and reawakening the terrible genocidal antagonisms that scarred the Southern psyche during the days of Reconstruction."

avian: Oh look, the National Review is trying to bash the SPLC. Are they worried they might be added to the SPLC list?
I'll pick the SPLC every time in that comparison.

See also:

Mater si, magistra no (literally "Mother yes, teacher no") is a macaronic phrase that means Catholics need not follow all the teachings of the Catholic Church, particularly in regard to economic justice or the rights of workers. It was originally in direct response to the papal encyclical Mater et Magistra of 1961, as a reference to the then-current anti-Castro slogan, "Cuba sí, Castro no."

The phrase is often attributed to William F. Buckley, Jr; although it was first published in Buckley's National Review,[4] the phrase was actually coined by Garry Wills during a telephone conversation with Buckley.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mater_si,_magistra_no

maudibjr: I blame Kennedy

Lindseys Lil Ladybugs: HighOnCraic: From the article:  It adds that "RTCs are typically categorized by the rejection of the Second Vatican Council (Vatican II) as a valid church council; disdain for most of the popes elected since Vatican II, particularly Pope Francis and Pope John Paul II; and frequent adherence to anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ, and white supremacist ideology. Radical-traditionalist Catholics compose a small minority of overall Roman Catholic adherents and are separate and distinct from 'traditionalist Catholics' who prefer the Traditional Latin Mass and pre-Vatican II teachings and traditions, without the more extremist ideological beliefs and violent rhetoric."

Oh yeah, I remember reading about these nut when I was doing a research paper on Father Leonard Feeney while I was in theology school.  Did I mention that they're nuts?  'Cause that can't be overstressed. The Feeneyites were technically separated from the Church before Vatican II.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Feeney


But the post-Vatican II separatists are even nuttier, particular Pope Michael, the "Dr." Rand Paul of Popes.

David Allen Bawden (September 22, 1959 - August 2, 2022),[1] who took the name Pope Michael, was an American citizen and a conclavist claimant to the papacy. In 1990 Bawden was elected pope by a group of six laypeople, including himself and his parents, who had come to believe that the Catholic Church had apostatized from the Catholic faith since Vatican II, and that there had been no legitimate popes elected since the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bawden

Oh, and what a surprise--the followers of Feeney are pro-Confederacy.

https://catholicism.org/catholicism-south.html

I'm really tired and don't feel like looking it all back up but the Anti-drag show nut lady that opened her Twitter yap after the North Carolina substation shootings/power outage is an adherent to one of these radical Catholic fringe groups as described in the article.

This is my shocked face.

BitwiseShift: The term "Social Justice Warrior" was coined by the Catholic church to counter their own anti Semitic trash priest. Father Coughlin was spewing to a very large radio audience in the 1930s.

The Germans had the sense to ban Hitler from radio (and commercial passenger flights)  in the early 1930s.  America went on to create Facebook and Twitter and let the propaganda money flow.


Here's Couglin's updated business model.

"RTCs are typically categorized by the rejection of the Second Vatican Council (Vatican II) as a valid church council; disdain for most of the popes elected since Vatican II, particularly Pope Francis and Pope John Paul II; and frequent adherence to anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ, and white supremacist ideology. Radical-traditionalist Catholics compose a small minority of overall Roman Catholic adherents and are separate and distinct from 'traditionalist Catholics' who prefer the Traditional Latin Mass and pre-Vatican II teachings and traditions, without the more extremist ideological beliefs and violent rhetoric.

Actually, the "social justice" movement within the Catholic Church began way before Coughlin.

Catholic social teaching, commonly abbreviated CST, is an area of Catholic doctrine concerning matters of human dignity and the common good in society. The ideas address oppression, the role of the state, subsidiarity, social organization, concern for social justice, and issues of wealth distribution. Its foundations are widely considered to have been laid by Pope Leo XIII's 1891 encyclical letter Rerum novarum, which advocated economic distributism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_social_teaching

Program for social reconstruction[edit]
Aside from his influential texts A Living Wage and Distributive Justice, and a number of other political and economic pamphlets, Ryan authored the "Program for Social Reconstruction" in 1919, a text that was adopted by the Administrative Committee of the National Catholic War Council as a statement of their social and economic objectives and became the Bishops' Program of Social Reconstruction.^[25] A number of authors have cited the text as a blueprint for the New Deal legislation, though others have also stated that such connections have been exaggerated.^[15] However direct Ryan's influence was on the New Deal, the text offered liberal social reforms that emphasized an active role for the state in promoting social justice, many of which were enacted during President Franklin D. Roosevelt's administration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Ryan

See also:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadragesimo_anno  (1931)

As far as Coughlin goes:

The most celebrated and notorious Catholic of the New Deal era was radio priest Charles Coughlin, the Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly of his day. On his weekly nationwide radio broadcast, the Detroit-based Coughlin was a staunch FDR supporter during the initial years of Roosevelt's presidency. He approved of the first phase of the New Deal, the National Recovery Act, which rejected laissez-faire capitalism and endeavored to replace it with a managed economy that balanced opposing social interests -- echoing Catholic economic doctrines propounded by Pope Leo XIII in his 1891 encyclical Rerum Novarum and by Pius XI in his 1931 Quadragesimo Anno. By 1935, however, Coughlin had split with Roosevelt over the issue of America's recognition of the World Court (the very kind of issue that today's talk-show fascisti also love to demagogue). The cosmopolitanism of the New Deal and the new CIO was increasingly unbearable to the anti-Semitic Coughlin, and by 1936 he was attacking "Franklin Double-Crossing Roosevelt" in every broadcast.

But Roosevelt also had allies within the Catholic hierarchy, and he made sure to showcase them whenever possible. Foremost among these was Monsignor John A. Ryan, a professor of political science and moral theology at Catholic University and the longtime director of the Social Action Department of the National Catholic Welfare Council. Inspired by Rerum Novarum, Ryan helped create a distinctly Catholic brand of American economic progressivism. (His dissertation, completed in 1906, was titled "A Living Wage.") In 1936, in an address he called "Roosevelt Safeguards America," Ryan took to the airwaves to denounce Coughlin's attacks on the president. Ryan also delivered the invocation at FDR's 1937 and 1945 inaugurals.

https://prospect.org/features/god-new-deal/