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1495 clicks; posted to Entertainment » and Business » on 08 Feb 2023 at 5:35 PM (6 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2023-02-08 5:39:57 PM  
Way ahead of you hoseheads, eh?
 
2023-02-08 5:43:41 PM  
Adding 2 more members for $8 wouldn't be that bad if it let all screens be used at the same time as a way to increase membership.

It's the whole
A letter received by one subscriber Wednesday, titled "Netflix is for a single household," stated they had until Feb. 21 to add a "primary location" to their account.
This allows Netflix to recognize anyone who accesses the account outside the home base.


That's still bullshiat for an online only service for which one of the main initial selling points is that you're not tied down to a location like a cable box.
 
2023-02-08 5:52:52 PM  
Meanwhile, YouTube TV is like "Share us with your family!  Please!  Get your parents to cancel cable!"
 
2023-02-08 5:59:39 PM  
Gotta impress shareholders somehow.
 
2023-02-08 5:59:52 PM  
And for a time, it was good.
 
2023-02-08 6:04:37 PM  
Now it's "Asinine" for a company to expect its customers to pay?
 
2023-02-08 6:09:17 PM  

Mikey1969: Now it's "Asinine" for a company to expect its customers to pay?


You are already paying for multi streams. It is non of their GOD DAMN BUSINESS who or where the 2nd streamer is.
 
2023-02-08 6:15:02 PM  
I will never understand the propensity of Americans to angrily demand the right to throw more money at a corporation to get less.
 
2023-02-08 6:21:10 PM  

mrmaster: Mikey1969: Now it's "Asinine" for a company to expect its customers to pay?

You are already paying for multi streams. It is non of their GOD DAMN BUSINESS who or where the 2nd streamer is.


I don't mind them trying to limit their accounts to be being used by the number of people they say you're paying for. If you're paying for an account which two people should be allowed to stream using then I'd have no problem with them trying to cut off a third trying to stream on the account while the other two are already watching something. That's cheating on the part of the consumers.

That said... who those two people are should be none of Netflix's farking business. Block that third simultaneous stream, sure. Even suspend the account of people who have more folks trying to stream at once than is authorized for the account - that could be structured reasonably to do. But more than that and I think Netflix loses the high ground on it. Deciding where the authorized people can or can't be really isn't any of Netflix's business in my opinion - and there are too many unusual family arrangements or temporary kinds of situations that Netflix isn't going to be able to address with automation.

But I don't have any skin in this game. I never thought subscribing to streaming services was better than just running my own, so I use Plex. HBO and others nuking popular serieses for the tax write offs only reinforces that belief for me.
 
2023-02-08 6:24:07 PM  
If they can afford to buy an extra vowel for colour, they can afford Netflix, eh.
 
2023-02-08 6:25:38 PM  

Mikey1969: Now it's "Asinine" for a company to expect its customers to pay?


For a service they've already sold you at an agreed price? Yes. Not only asinine but probably illegal.
 
2023-02-08 6:33:09 PM  
99% of their content isn't worth the bandwidth to pirate anyway.
 
2023-02-08 6:35:32 PM  
By the way, buying a vowel STILL costs 250 bucks American. No kiss from Richard Dawson, and the name of the game is NOT Family FUD.

I have no real opinion about this. I know people who really enjoy Netflix and people who pay for it but barely watch. Rarely watch. There must be people who have passed their information to thirty or more people. Is Netflix thinking that they are more likely to get more money from a family of four than from a network of 30 frat guys? They might be right. Sigh.
 
2023-02-08 6:43:04 PM  
As a Netflix subscriber, if I get one of these emails I'm going to cancel the service. I pay for 4 simultaneous streams in 4K. I have two houses, and one of the reasons why I subscribe to Netflix is to avoid the cable company BS.

Once Netflix goes through with this, it'll be no more than a glorified cable company.
 
2023-02-08 6:45:05 PM  

SirMadness: I will never understand the propensity of Americans to angrily demand the right to throw more money at a corporation to get less.


Are we looking at the same Americans that made Napster and piracy a thing? A minority of people pay for content.
 
2023-02-08 6:47:16 PM  

mongbiohazard: mrmaster: Mikey1969: Now it's "Asinine" for a company to expect its customers to pay?

You are already paying for multi streams. It is non of their GOD DAMN BUSINESS who or where the 2nd streamer is.

I don't mind them trying to limit their accounts to be being used by the number of people they say you're paying for. If you're paying for an account which two people should be allowed to stream using then I'd have no problem with them trying to cut off a third trying to stream on the account while the other two are already watching something. That's cheating on the part of the consumers.

That said... who those two people are should be none of Netflix's farking business. Block that third simultaneous stream, sure. Even suspend the account of people who have more folks trying to stream at once than is authorized for the account - that could be structured reasonably to do. But more than that and I think Netflix loses the high ground on it. Deciding where the authorized people can or can't be really isn't any of Netflix's business in my opinion - and there are too many unusual family arrangements or temporary kinds of situations that Netflix isn't going to be able to address with automation.

But I don't have any skin in this game. I never thought subscribing to streaming services was better than just running my own, so I use Plex. HBO and others nuking popular serieses for the tax write offs only reinforces that belief for me.


You know they changed the account definition to say it was for people of a single household when they decided they were going to do this, right?

If you opened a Netflix account before this stupid cash grab, they were very clear on what you were paying for -

"The plan you choose will determine the video quality and the number of screens you can watch Netflix on at the same time. "

https://web.archive.org/web/20220906004713/https://help.netflix.com/en/node/24926
 
2023-02-08 6:49:11 PM  

Fonaibung: SirMadness: I will never understand the propensity of Americans to angrily demand the right to throw more money at a corporation to get less.

Are we looking at the same Americans that made Napster and piracy a thing? A minority of people pay for content.


I wouldn't go that far. Most people pay, they don't pirate. Take a random sample of ordinary Americans and few of them would even know how to pirate stuff. The few folks that have asked me how I do it generally don't make it past two sentences of the explanation before they lose interest, because most folks aren't very technically savvy, so it sounds like mostly gibberish to them.
 
2023-02-08 6:50:09 PM  

untoldforce: As a Netflix subscriber, if I get one of these emails I'm going to cancel the service. I pay for 4 simultaneous streams in 4K. I have two houses, and one of the reasons why I subscribe to Netflix is to avoid the cable company BS.

Once Netflix goes through with this, it'll be no more than a glorified cable company.


Don't be insulting.  Cable companies have local news and live sports.
 
2023-02-08 6:50:30 PM  

SMB2811: mongbiohazard: mrmaster: Mikey1969: Now it's "Asinine" for a company to expect its customers to pay?

You are already paying for multi streams. It is non of their GOD DAMN BUSINESS who or where the 2nd streamer is.

I don't mind them trying to limit their accounts to be being used by the number of people they say you're paying for. If you're paying for an account which two people should be allowed to stream using then I'd have no problem with them trying to cut off a third trying to stream on the account while the other two are already watching something. That's cheating on the part of the consumers.

That said... who those two people are should be none of Netflix's farking business. Block that third simultaneous stream, sure. Even suspend the account of people who have more folks trying to stream at once than is authorized for the account - that could be structured reasonably to do. But more than that and I think Netflix loses the high ground on it. Deciding where the authorized people can or can't be really isn't any of Netflix's business in my opinion - and there are too many unusual family arrangements or temporary kinds of situations that Netflix isn't going to be able to address with automation.

But I don't have any skin in this game. I never thought subscribing to streaming services was better than just running my own, so I use Plex. HBO and others nuking popular serieses for the tax write offs only reinforces that belief for me.

You know they changed the account definition to say it was for people of a single household when they decided they were going to do this, right?

If you opened a Netflix account before this stupid cash grab, they were very clear on what you were paying for -

"The plan you choose will determine the video quality and the number of screens you can watch Netflix on at the same time. "

https://web.archive.org/web/20220906004713/https://help.netflix.com/en/node/24926


Yes, I'm of the same mind on this.

If all they wanted to do was limit excess simultaneous streams I'd have a hard time finding any fault in that, but that's not what they're doing so fark 'em.
 
2023-02-08 6:51:00 PM  
What's asinine is Farkers who think being anti-consumer is a principled position.
 
2023-02-08 6:55:55 PM  
I steal instead. much easier and cheaper.
 
2023-02-08 7:02:50 PM  

Fonaibung: SirMadness: I will never understand the propensity of Americans to angrily demand the right to throw more money at a corporation to get less.

Are we looking at the same Americans that made Napster and piracy a thing? A minority of people pay for content.


That was aimed primarily at the large number of comments I see on articles like this one sarcastically indicating something like "HoW DaRe a CoMpAnY ChAeRg U 4 sRvCes!!1"

Last I checked, the price of Netflix wasn't farking "free."
 
2023-02-08 7:05:12 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: I steal instead. much easier and cheaper.


Not to mention better quality and user experience.
 
2023-02-08 7:09:49 PM  

2fardownthread: If they can afford to buy an extra vowel for colour, they can afford Netflix, eh.


Yeah but they got it half price for removing the letter Z from their alphabet.
 
2023-02-08 7:12:14 PM  
Is that $7.99 in real money or Canadian?
 
2023-02-08 7:23:59 PM  
Yeah, got this email and decided to cancel. They have every right to determine their business model and I have every right to say fark it, I'm going elsewhere with my $20/month.
 
2023-02-08 7:25:08 PM  
Well at least there will be more seeds as former netflix sharers decide to pay the iron price...
 
2023-02-08 7:25:16 PM  
Don't cross the streams!
 
2023-02-08 7:26:49 PM  

tricycleracer: Meanwhile, YouTube TV is like "Share us with your family!  Please!  Get your parents to cancel cable!"


What? When I first signed up for YouTube TV it was $50/month with no streaming limits. It's now $70 and they only allow 4 streams.
 
2023-02-08 7:33:49 PM  

Elzar: Well at least there will be more seeds as former netflix sharers decide to pay the iron price...


Ahhhh, the iron price. There's always a price.

I may not pay for Netflix or Hulu, but I still have to shell out somewhat regular infusions of cash on hardware. In the end I actually doubt I'm saving money vs just subscribing to a couple services. But I get a lot more bang for the buck, functionality, and control over the library. HBO pulled Westworld? No worries. Nobody I'm subscribed to carrying a show or movies I really want? No worries. They're wanting to geofence my account? lolz, no worries. Offline viewing isn't possible? No worries. Want something really obscure? No worries (once I find it).

But I still gotta pay. I got servers, and they need maintaining and upgrading. I got proxy services to maintain. There's always a price. Least my friends get it cheap.
 
2023-02-08 7:45:11 PM  
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2023-02-08 8:55:06 PM  

mongbiohazard: Fonaibung: SirMadness: I will never understand the propensity of Americans to angrily demand the right to throw more money at a corporation to get less.

Are we looking at the same Americans that made Napster and piracy a thing? A minority of people pay for content.

I wouldn't go that far. Most people pay, they don't pirate. Take a random sample of ordinary Americans and few of them would even know how to pirate stuff. The few folks that have asked me how I do it generally don't make it past two sentences of the explanation before they lose interest, because most folks aren't very technically savvy, so it sounds like mostly gibberish to them.


Technically, it's "pirating" to use a VPN but fark companies for region locking content.
 
2023-02-08 9:05:56 PM  

leeksfromchichis: Technically, it's "pirating" to use a VPN but fark companies for region locking content.


Cause it's a heave-ho! hi-ho!
Coming down the plains
Stealing wheat and barley
And all the other grains

Canadian Horse Pirates - BronyCAN 2015 [♫ The Last Saskatchewan Pirate ♫]
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And it's a ho-hey! hi-hey!
Farmers bar your doors
When you see the Jolly Roger
On Regina's mighty shores!
 
2023-02-08 10:11:58 PM  
I paid for four screens so could share with my parents (+1 residence). I travel a lot. We only rarely watch due to limited and ever-canceling selections.

I didn't care about the monthly fee before, but Netflix has made me 'notice' the payment value with their changing terms.

Shocklingly, I think I am canceling.
 
2023-02-08 10:16:01 PM  

mrmaster: Mikey1969: Now it's "Asinine" for a company to expect its customers to pay?

You are already paying for multi streams. It is non of their GOD DAMN BUSINESS who or where the 2nd streamer is.


Like, remember when you used to rent DVDs? Did it matter how many people you invited to watch them over at your place?
/my lawn, get off it
 
2023-02-08 10:33:25 PM  
They ought to rent combo stick PCs with custom Netflix OS / hardware tokens.  The physical device either plays the stream into a video port on your screen, or it plugs into your computer to authorize access to the web site.  Give it the ability to pre-cache a few hours' worth of content for road trips - now your kids can have Netflix in the back seat while you drive.

Then it wouldn't matter if you moved, were on vacation in a hotel, visiting friends or family - one concurrent stream per rented device.
 
2023-02-08 10:45:57 PM  
They've implemented this today in New Zealand too (and I believe Spain and Portugal). I think if they fail to lose revenue in these countries they will move on to larger markets next. We're a testbed.

Now of course Netflix is hoping that paying customers will stay on board and only the people who they've shared accounts with will stop using the service or get their own accounts. But this is making a lot of people question how much they actually use the service and whether it's worth keeping. Especially as Netflix is ruthless when it comes to cancelling new shows, so why get invested in new content in the first place? If you're no longer letting friends or family down by cancelling, that may be once less thing that keeps you subscribing.
 
2023-02-09 12:27:18 AM  
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2023-02-09 12:33:09 AM  
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We're disinclined to acquiesce to these companies' requests.
 
2023-02-09 1:31:07 AM  

thisispete: They've implemented this today in New Zealand too (and I believe Spain and Portugal). I think if they fail to lose revenue in these countries they will move on to larger markets next. We're a testbed.



Netflix isn't using these countries as a test bed. they already did it in a number of Latin American countries. This is the start of the worldwide rollout.

The results from Latin America were a lot of people dropped Netflix in the short term, but over time\ people cam crawling back.
 
2023-02-09 10:40:27 AM  
I hadn't thought about how much Netflix costs vs how much I use it for quite a while, but this news made me look at my account options. I ended up downgrading my account. The savings will pay for my Xbox Game Pass. Thanks Netflix Canada!
 
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