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(News On 6 Tulsa)   Master-thief accused of embezzling $31,000 from the Wally World cash registers. With bonus master-thief name of Shadymon   (newson6.com) divider line
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2023-02-08 12:43:22 PM  
That's her club name.
 
2023-02-08 1:04:32 PM  
I always thought he was a hero.

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2023-02-08 1:05:03 PM  
Wally World.  There's a name I've not heard in a long time.  A long time.
 
2023-02-08 1:06:13 PM  
Shadymon Patie. Don't recall that Marley album.
 
2023-02-08 1:06:22 PM  
Jfc that site is some shiat 😒
 
2023-02-08 1:06:33 PM  

gnosis301: Wally World.  There's a name I've not heard in a long time.  A long time.


I never knew until recently that it stood for Wal-Mart.
 
2023-02-08 1:07:14 PM  
She's now evolved in to arrestedymon.
 
2023-02-08 1:07:16 PM  
Shadymon sounds like the kind of pokemon you only teach self destruct/explosion and just use to troll people.
 
2023-02-08 1:07:26 PM  
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2023-02-08 1:07:32 PM  

steklo: gnosis301: Wally World.  There's a name I've not heard in a long time.  A long time.

I never knew until recently that it stood for Wal-Mart.


Wally World dad.

Roy G Wally World.
 
2023-02-08 1:08:29 PM  
You'd be fat too if your city is known for its diners and lack of basic infrastructure like public transportation and sidewalks, but went all in on subsidizing car ownership with parking minimums and adding extra lanes.
 
2023-02-08 1:09:26 PM  
They had this all on camera and took months to finally report? Seems that she probably got brazen after getting away with it for so long, someone finally noticed and took the time to go through all the video archives

Things learned
1) Walmart has shiat-tier security practices
2) they don't audit their tills or cash very often
3) if you work on "close up magic" skills you might get away with it
 
2023-02-08 1:12:42 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: 3) if you work on "close up magic" skills you might get away with it


Protip: Just do not wear the cape and tophat during working hours.
 
2023-02-08 1:14:45 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: Things learned


4. You get paid to pick your ass.

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2023-02-08 1:14:58 PM  
Has everyone stopped counting drawers or something?
 
2023-02-08 1:15:50 PM  

Baloo Uriza: You'd be fat too if your city is known for its diners and lack of basic infrastructure like public transportation and sidewalks, but went all in on subsidizing car ownership with parking minimums and adding extra lanes.


True, but the weather here makes walking/bike-riding/skipping/outdoor yoga/double-dutch/etc. unpossible for 26 days out of every month.
 
2023-02-08 1:16:13 PM  

Baloo Uriza: You'd be fat too if your city is known for its diners and lack of basic infrastructure like public transportation and sidewalks, but went all in on subsidizing car ownership with parking minimums and adding extra lanes.


You're about to be killed by a guy who cut the sleeves off a Mickey Mouse shirt.

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2023-02-08 1:16:28 PM  
What Walmart still has employees doing cashier duty?
 
2023-02-08 1:17:25 PM  

Nick Nostril: Shadymon Patie. Don't recall that Marley album.


I ate the sheriff and I also ate the deputy.
 
2023-02-08 1:17:48 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: They had this all on camera and took months to finally report? Seems that she probably got brazen after getting away with it for so long, someone finally noticed and took the time to go through all the video archives

Things learned
1) Walmart has shiat-tier security practices
2) they don't audit their tills or cash very often
3) if you work on "close up magic" skills you might get away with it


#2 is the correct answer. Many large retailers might audit the tills once a week (like Kroger), but I've heard Wally hardly ever does. What probably happened is a co-worker snitched and LP finally decided to review the tapes.
 
2023-02-08 1:18:44 PM  

steklo: The Exit Stencilist: Things learned

4. You get paid to pick your ass.

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Geeze, how long have I been doing it for free like some kind of chump?
 
2023-02-08 1:19:40 PM  

Solty Dog: The Exit Stencilist: 3) if you work on "close up magic" skills you might get away with it

Protip: Just do not wear the cape and tophat during working hours.


"I put on my robe and wizard hat..."
 
2023-02-08 1:23:26 PM  
Tills get audited every day.  They gave her some rope, and let her run with it.
 
2023-02-08 1:24:28 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: They had this all on camera and took months to finally report? Seems that she probably got brazen after getting away with it for so long, someone finally noticed and took the time to go through all the video archives

Things learned
1) Walmart has shiat-tier security practices
2) they don't audit their tills or cash very often
3) if you work on "close up magic" skills you might get away with it


I don't know if there's a threshold for felony charges or whatever, but in Canada, some retailers have taken to documenting habitual shoplifters so as to pursue a greater charge of theft over $5000 (an indictable offense vs a summary conviction.)
 
2023-02-08 1:29:14 PM  

JessieL: Geeze, how long have I been doing it for free like some kind of chump?


Note to self: Stek, always pick your ass while at work.
 
2023-02-08 1:34:16 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: They had this all on camera and took months to finally report? Seems that she probably got brazen after getting away with it for so long, someone finally noticed and took the time to go through all the video archives

Things learned
1) Walmart has shiat-tier security practices
2) they don't audit their tills or cash very often
3) if you work on "close up magic" skills you might get away with it


Meh, add in requirements from Legal and HR and 5 months isn't surprising for a corporation that size.  Or they forgot about this person.

My company, which was nowhere near the size of Hell*Mart, once put a guy on "admin leave" (paid) because he was accused of committing a fireable offense (which he didn't do but they wouldn't listen to me).  Normally when such a thing happened the person wouldn't be on admin leave for any longer than it took for the paperwork to get FedExed from corporate to my office.

The powers that be forgot all about him and he was on paid leave for about 10 months.  In theory i should have brought it up but I know the guy didn't do what they accused him of doing and our asshole manager was (and still is) a sociopathic "yes man."
 
2023-02-08 1:34:36 PM  
1) guessing it's pronounced "sha-DI-min" (shadoobie?), like sh-diamond
2) she doesn't look all that big in the pic, certainly not big enough for a headline fat-shame
3) not news, fark, etc.
 
2023-02-08 1:37:46 PM  

listernine: Tills get audited every day.


I once applied for a manager position at Waffle House.

Interviewer: So, among other things, another responsibility is to handle the till. You'll be responsible for anything outstanding or missing.
Me: Uh huh.
Interviewer: You see, we hire people, er, how should I say this? Er, people on government assistance. Not saying anything will go missing, but there's always the chance.

In the end, I did not take the job. No way was I going to be responsible for the till.
 
2023-02-08 1:39:06 PM  
listernine: Tills get audited every day.  They gave her some rope, and let her run with it.

15 times? $31,000? Five months? That's enough rope for a suspension bridge across the Grand Canyon.

TFA also doesn't say that it was her till that she was stealing from ("Officers say other employees reported seeing Shadymon Patie stealing money from the cash registers"). The phrasing makes me wonder if she found a way to sneak money from other cashiers' tills.
 
2023-02-08 1:41:24 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: they don't audit their tills


When they do it's out of the presence/view of the cashier so it's never verified by them. They just come to you some days later and accuse your till of being short and require you to explain it when you never even got to count it yourself to verify it was short.
 
2023-02-08 1:44:43 PM  

steklo: listernine: Tills get audited every day.

I once applied for a manager position at Waffle House.

Interviewer: So, among other things, another responsibility is to handle the till. You'll be responsible for anything outstanding or missing.
Me: Uh huh.
Interviewer: You see, we hire people, er, how should I say this? Er, people on government assistance. Not saying anything will go missing, but there's always the chance.

In the end, I did not take the job. No way was I going to be responsible for the till.


Depending on the state, you can't be held responsible. My job at Walmart tried to get me to pay some register shortage back to them and I flat out refused. Not only illegal, but would have been an admission of guilt for something I wasn't responsible for.
 
2023-02-08 1:55:51 PM  

dbrunker: I always thought he was a hero.

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came here to make this joke. *tiny fist*
 
2023-02-08 1:58:10 PM  

gabethegoat: 2) she doesn't look all that big in the pic, certainly not big enough for a headline fat-shame


Headline fat shame?  What?


waxbeans: Jfc that site is some shiat 😒


You'd think a local news station from Tulsa, OK would be more sophisticated and full of chamber music and waffles.

C18H27NO3: Has everyone stopped counting drawers or something?


I only count thongs, micro-thongs and micro-mini-thongs. Oh and C-thongs, I'll count those too.

It's probably hard to find people to work at Walmart, much less be a competent manager. Whatever lazy-ass manager trainee was supposed to be counting tills probably said, "Oh yeah...I'll count it, sure...yeah" and then just ran the whole thing through a bill counter, then randomly divided the total between all the tills.  That's a whole lot faster than counting all of them individually.

There's actually a convenient tool to do this online...
https://functioncube.com/Functions/Divide-Number

Eventually, corporate did an audit and realized, "Hey, these numbers don't really jive with the sales figures. Hey ratty Walmart in Tulsa, what's going on here? You guys using $100 bills for toilet paper or something?"  And then the jig was up.
 
2023-02-08 2:09:33 PM  

El_Dan: She's now evolved in to arrestedymon.


way to ruin the brand, Shady!
 
2023-02-08 2:16:20 PM  

khatores: Headline fat shame?  What?


The headline had the last sentence removed sometime after it went green.
 
2023-02-08 2:19:15 PM  

gabethegoat: 1) guessing it's pronounced "sha-DI-min" (shadoobie?), like sh-diamond
2) she doesn't look all that big in the pic, certainly not big enough for a headline fat-shame
3) not news, fark, etc.


Shasilk must be pretty upset about this.
 
2023-02-08 2:22:34 PM  
Once, when I was a cashier at Walmart, a manager sending me on my lunch break asked if a certain cashier had bought any gift cards from me. I said No and went to lunch.

When I returned from lunch I learned the police had come to arrest her, she refused to cooperate, so they dragged her out handcuffed, past my register. And I missed it all.

Apparently, when she got sent to another register to cover breaks, she figured nobody could te
 
2023-02-08 2:42:51 PM  

Another Government Employee: The Exit Stencilist: They had this all on camera and took months to finally report? Seems that she probably got brazen after getting away with it for so long, someone finally noticed and took the time to go through all the video archives

Things learned
1) Walmart has shiat-tier security practices
2) they don't audit their tills or cash very often
3) if you work on "close up magic" skills you might get away with it

#2 is the correct answer. Many large retailers might audit the tills once a week (like Kroger), but I've heard Wally hardly ever does. What probably happened is a co-worker snitched and LP finally decided to review the tapes.


Know how I know you have never worked a cash register?
 
2023-02-08 3:23:32 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: They had this all on camera and took months to finally report? Seems that she probably got brazen after getting away with it for so long, someone finally noticed and took the time to go through all the video archives

Things learned
1) Walmart has shiat-tier security practices
2) they don't audit their tills or cash very often
3) if you work on "close up magic" skills you might get away with it


How long would it take to pay people to try to go over old surveillance footage "just in case" to try to catch thieves?  How many people would you need?  How brain destroying would that be and how good would the people you'd need to hire and pay accordingly need to be to spot it all the time?  No one but casinos goes over every minute of every cashier's footage every day, it's just not feasible economically or personnel-wise.  Maybe they should have spotted an indicator otherwise, but expecting a company of any sort to peer at every bit of every surveillance camera's footage from every day is just flat out silly.  The people the casinos do employ to do it live are expensive as hell and have a nutty burnout rate.  That kind of thing is rationally for when you already suspect something specifically by other indicators, and need confirmation - not for IDing thieves from zero.  That's your money people, generally - they tell you something's fishy, THEN you go back and go over surveillance.  And in a large company pulling in a lot of cash, yeah that can take a while to get to the point of "Ok this is a problem, something farky."  Inevitable, but it can take a bit
 
2023-02-08 3:51:21 PM  

chitownmike: Another Government Employee: The Exit Stencilist: They had this all on camera and took months to finally report? Seems that she probably got brazen after getting away with it for so long, someone finally noticed and took the time to go through all the video archives

Things learned
1) Walmart has shiat-tier security practices
2) they don't audit their tills or cash very often
3) if you work on "close up magic" skills you might get away with it

#2 is the correct answer. Many large retailers might audit the tills once a week (like Kroger), but I've heard Wally hardly ever does. What probably happened is a co-worker snitched and LP finally decided to review the tapes.

Know how I know you have never worked a cash register?


Worked in retail accounting (including sales audit and LP) before I was a government drone. It is supposed to be done daily, but the larger organizations (like Kroger where my wife works) end up doing it weekly. I've heard Wally isn't exactly on the ball with cash management from former employees.

Once LP is notified, it isn't that hard to see the various cash palming techniques on video. But the cameras are honestly not monitored that closely unless there is a tip.
 
2023-02-08 4:15:17 PM  

mrmopar5287: Depending on the state, you can't be held responsible.


Very interesting. The hiring manager kept reinforcing that I would be responsible for the till.

I wonder if in GA, if it's permissible?
 
2023-02-08 4:23:00 PM  

steklo: mrmopar5287: Depending on the state, you can't be held responsible.

Very interesting. The hiring manager kept reinforcing that I would be responsible for the till.

I wonder if in GA, if it's permissible?


Not anymore. There was a court case in the mid 90s that cemented it.
 
2023-02-08 4:36:14 PM  

steklo: mrmopar5287: Depending on the state, you can't be held responsible.

Very interesting. The hiring manager kept reinforcing that I would be responsible for the till.

I wonder if in GA, if it's permissible?


Probably they just fire you if you don't make good on any cash shortage. It's illegal, but what are you going to do about it?
 
2023-02-08 5:26:54 PM  

listernine: Tills get audited every day.  They gave her some rope, and let her run with it.


One retail job I had, you were only allowed to go over $5 short three times before getting fired - a $20 short you only could do once - a $100 short got a personal visit from the head of company security. I can't imagine they would let anyone go until they had $31k.
 
2023-02-08 5:38:36 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: The Exit Stencilist: They had this all on camera and took months to finally report? Seems that she probably got brazen after getting away with it for so long, someone finally noticed and took the time to go through all the video archives

Things learned
1) Walmart has shiat-tier security practices
2) they don't audit their tills or cash very often
3) if you work on "close up magic" skills you might get away with it

How long would it take to pay people to try to go over old surveillance footage "just in case" to try to catch thieves?  How many people would you need?  How brain destroying would that be and how good would the people you'd need to hire and pay accordingly need to be to spot it all the time?  No one but casinos goes over every minute of every cashier's footage every day, it's just not feasible economically or personnel-wise.  Maybe they should have spotted an indicator otherwise, but expecting a company of any sort to peer at every bit of every surveillance camera's footage from every day is just flat out silly.  The people the casinos do employ to do it live are expensive as hell and have a nutty burnout rate.  That kind of thing is rationally for when you already suspect something specifically by other indicators, and need confirmation - not for IDing thieves from zero.  That's your money people, generally - they tell you something's fishy, THEN you go back and go over surveillance.  And in a large company pulling in a lot of cash, yeah that can take a while to get to the point of "Ok this is a problem, something farky."  Inevitable, but it can take a bit


Jfc. This again.  You can't say no one wants to work and also say we can't hire that many people.  STFU
 
2023-02-08 5:57:59 PM  

waxbeans: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: The Exit Stencilist: They had this all on camera and took months to finally report? Seems that she probably got brazen after getting away with it for so long, someone finally noticed and took the time to go through all the video archives

Things learned
1) Walmart has shiat-tier security practices
2) they don't audit their tills or cash very often
3) if you work on "close up magic" skills you might get away with it

How long would it take to pay people to try to go over old surveillance footage "just in case" to try to catch thieves?  How many people would you need?  How brain destroying would that be and how good would the people you'd need to hire and pay accordingly need to be to spot it all the time?  No one but casinos goes over every minute of every cashier's footage every day, it's just not feasible economically or personnel-wise.  Maybe they should have spotted an indicator otherwise, but expecting a company of any sort to peer at every bit of every surveillance camera's footage from every day is just flat out silly.  The people the casinos do employ to do it live are expensive as hell and have a nutty burnout rate.  That kind of thing is rationally for when you already suspect something specifically by other indicators, and need confirmation - not for IDing thieves from zero.  That's your money people, generally - they tell you something's fishy, THEN you go back and go over surveillance.  And in a large company pulling in a lot of cash, yeah that can take a while to get to the point of "Ok this is a problem, something farky."  Inevitable, but it can take a bit

Jfc. This again.  You can't say no one wants to work and also say we can't hire that many people.  STFU


Agreed, people without the most basic understanding of economics and apparently lacking in interactions with the real world being placated is also the most important thing in my book.
 
2023-02-08 6:12:02 PM  

WoodyHayes: waxbeans: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: The Exit Stencilist: They had this all on camera and took months to finally report? Seems that she probably got brazen after getting away with it for so long, someone finally noticed and took the time to go through all the video archives

Things learned
1) Walmart has shiat-tier security practices
2) they don't audit their tills or cash very often
3) if you work on "close up magic" skills you might get away with it

How long would it take to pay people to try to go over old surveillance footage "just in case" to try to catch thieves?  How many people would you need?  How brain destroying would that be and how good would the people you'd need to hire and pay accordingly need to be to spot it all the time?  No one but casinos goes over every minute of every cashier's footage every day, it's just not feasible economically or personnel-wise.  Maybe they should have spotted an indicator otherwise, but expecting a company of any sort to peer at every bit of every surveillance camera's footage from every day is just flat out silly.  The people the casinos do employ to do it live are expensive as hell and have a nutty burnout rate.  That kind of thing is rationally for when you already suspect something specifically by other indicators, and need confirmation - not for IDing thieves from zero.  That's your money people, generally - they tell you something's fishy, THEN you go back and go over surveillance.  And in a large company pulling in a lot of cash, yeah that can take a while to get to the point of "Ok this is a problem, something farky."  Inevitable, but it can take a bit

Jfc. This again.  You can't say no one wants to work and also say we can't hire that many people.  STFU

Agreed, people without the most basic understanding of economics and apparently lacking in interactions with the real world being placated is also the most important thing in my book.


Hire people.
Actually hire people.
Now go run in traffic.
 
2023-02-08 6:14:52 PM  

Mr. Tweedy: One retail job I had, you were only allowed to go over $5 short three times before getting fired - a $20 short you only could do once - a $100 short got a personal visit from the head of company security.


That was probably a retail job where the cashier themself was one of the people counting the till at the start and end of a shift so they could double check it. That's basically SOP - one cashier works one till and they verify it at the start of their shift and then it's counted at the end of their shift. Thus, they are responsible for the cash (and checks, and coupons, etc.).

Walmart doesn't do this. When I worked there (admittedly, years ago) the cash office was a sealed room that was a mystery to any cashier. It was only cash office employees and maybe managers who had access. Walmart would hand you a blue zipper bank bag through a chute from the cash office and that was your money to start an empty till on a register. Then, a few times a day, a couple of people had a shopping card with a locked plywood box bolted to it and they would walk down the line of checkout registers to reset them all. Your register would generate a journal, all the cash and stuff was zipped into a bank back, and it was put into the locked plywood box. They would hand you a new bank bag to reset your register. All those bank bags were then taken to the cash office and it was counted out of the hands and sight of the cashiers. In other words, the cashier never had a chance to verify the cash count in their drawer because it was all just bundled up and taken away from them to be counted later, in private, with the cashier not being present.

If there was any shortages you might find out about it some days later. A manager would come to you with a paper form telling you there was a shortage and you had to write on the form why there was a shortage. This created problems because there was no way to verify if the people in the cash office counted it correctly, or if they shorted the drawer themselves. It was just random, a few days later, and you suddenly have to explain where $2 or $5 or $10 went and you probably had zero idea where it went. You could point out that you didn't get to count the drawer yourself to even verify if there was any cash missing and they just didn't care.

Basically, Walmart did this to fire people when they wanted. They'd tell you you had a few shortages and that was discipline leading up to being fired.

I worked in automotive and would routinely refuse to "jump on a register" to check some people out because it meant my name got attached to a cash drawer that multiple people were dipping into. If there was a shortage, it could be because of someone else and suddenly it's now my problem as well. There were a few times where there was like $5 short and it was a drawer with 2-5 people who had worked it during the day and now I had to explain where the $5 went because I used the register once to check out someone who paid for tires with a credit card (the drawer would still pop open to deposit the credit slip in the till).
 
2023-02-08 6:46:38 PM  

Mr. Tweedy: Baloo Uriza: You'd be fat too if your city is known for its diners and lack of basic infrastructure like public transportation and sidewalks, but went all in on subsidizing car ownership with parking minimums and adding extra lanes.

True, but the weather here makes walking/bike-riding/skipping/outdoor yoga/double-dutch/etc. unpossible for 26 days out of every month.


I was talking about Tulsa, not Needles.  The weather in Tulsa is nearly perfect for outdoor activity all the time.  Last week was rather shiatty but today?  Meh, just throw a raincape or poncho on and send it.  The big part is the infrastructure, though.  If you wouldn't send your kid out to bike to school or your grandma out to walk to the store on a street or yourself drunk to walk or wobble home on, then that street design is bad and the city should feel bad for not completing it.

Meanwhile the IDL and 75/44 projects were broken down in such a way and over such a length of time to obscure the total cost and time to completion.  By the time all is said and done it'll be at least $5.5 billion and 15 years since both projects started.  And one of those projects, the IDL, is half wasted given that the USDOT has recommended I 244 for demolition.

We could have had a quality start to a subway system or built a busway-based BRT system that would make Eugene, Oregon's EmX look like the OKC Streetcar for that kind of money.  And unlike the interchange projects, a good rapid bus network on dedicated lanes would actually fix traffic and improve safety.
 
2023-02-08 6:47:40 PM  

WoodyHayes: Baloo Uriza: You'd be fat too if your city is known for its diners and lack of basic infrastructure like public transportation and sidewalks, but went all in on subsidizing car ownership with parking minimums and adding extra lanes.

You're about to be killed by a guy who cut the sleeves off a Mickey Mouse shirt.

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You mean Steve?  I play poker with him at the Dirty Knuckle.
 
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