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(Guardian)   The Church of England may stop referring to God as "he" and use gender-neutral terms instead. Alanis Morissette still unimpressed   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2023-02-08 7:58:12 AM  
Still waiting for some changes too.

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2023-02-08 8:06:51 AM  
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Sees what Smitty did there
 
2023-02-08 8:09:59 AM  
Muslims have been using a gender neutral name the whole time! Allah has no gender nor other attributes to us, yet we use "he" just because it's easier.
 
2023-02-08 8:10:37 AM  
Oooh, this will go up the asses of RWNJs, sideways. I give it my full support on that basis alone.
 
2023-02-08 8:10:45 AM  
I think it's weird and counterintuitive to have a gendered god, but the manual is pretty specific that the christian god is male.
 
2023-02-08 8:11:53 AM  
If God is omnipotent, God is also Omnisexual.
 
2023-02-08 8:13:00 AM  
"Her noodly appendage" just doesn't sound right.
 
TWX
2023-02-08 8:14:23 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: If God is omnipotent, God is also Omnisexual.


I thought that was Zeus.  I mean, figuring the maiden had a swan fetish...
 
2023-02-08 8:16:21 AM  
Old religious tent revival joke ... punch line: "First of all, she's black."
 
2023-02-08 8:16:42 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: If God is omnipotent, God is also Omnisexual.


Probably omnivorous too.
 
2023-02-08 8:17:30 AM  
They gonna revise the Lord's Prayer?
Our Parent, who art in Hebben,
Allah be thy name.
 
2023-02-08 8:18:53 AM  
Why does god need a spaceship penis?

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2023-02-08 8:18:59 AM  
Sexuality implies a female deity and you can't have that. Can you?

/CoE does believe that Jesus is part of God though and it did take a gender on Earth according to their dogma.
 
2023-02-08 8:19:49 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: I think it's weird and counterintuitive to have a gendered god, but the manual is pretty specific that the christian god is male.


Depends which god. Priapus is pretty clearly male. Laksmi is female. Adonai not so much
 
2023-02-08 8:20:57 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: If God is omnipotent, God is also Omnisexual.


You forgot "omniscient", so I guess we can lay off all that praying, too.
 
2023-02-08 8:22:07 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: I think it's weird and counterintuitive to have a gendered god, but the manual is pretty specific that the christian god is male.


...the manual written exclusively by males? I'd like a second opinion, please.
 
2023-02-08 8:24:10 AM  
English already has a gender neutral pronoun - "it", but is somehow considered disrespectful or something and all this other bullshiat isn't.
 
2023-02-08 8:25:27 AM  

Flowery Twats: HotWingConspiracy: I think it's weird and counterintuitive to have a gendered god, but the manual is pretty specific that the christian god is male.

...the manual written exclusively by males? I'd like a second opinion, please.


They believe it's the direct word of god. Nobody can stop you from writing your own bible though, lots of people have done it.
 
2023-02-08 8:26:42 AM  
Farkie does not check out?

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2023-02-08 8:27:25 AM  
How aboot you refer to your majik cloud person however you want and leave the rest of us out of it
 
2023-02-08 8:27:43 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Flowery Twats: HotWingConspiracy: I think it's weird and counterintuitive to have a gendered god, but the manual is pretty specific that the christian god is male.

...the manual written exclusively by males? I'd like a second opinion, please.

They believe it's the direct word of god. Nobody can stop you from writing your own bible though, lots of people have done it.


Well, maybe once it was, but it's been translated and rearranged quite a few times. To say nothing of the editing. But logic and facts have no place in religion. Thankfully, it's a free country, and they can believe anything they want, as long as they don't try to prevent others from doing the same thing.
 
2023-02-08 8:27:50 AM  

bostonguy: Still waiting for some changes too.

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How Adam got Eve...

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2023-02-08 8:28:15 AM  
She thinks this is ironic, like rain on your wedding day.
 
2023-02-08 8:28:34 AM  
The same questions have been kicking around the Episcopal Church in the US for the last several years. The issue isn't ripe enough to make a decision. But I expect this will be the next screaming match from the more conservative branches of the denomination.
 
2023-02-08 8:29:00 AM  

luddite v2.0: How aboot you refer to your majik cloud person however you want and leave the rest of us out of it


And yet here you are going out of your way to comment on it.
 
2023-02-08 8:29:17 AM  

Flowery Twats: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: If God is omnipotent, God is also Omnisexual.

You forgot "omniscient", so I guess we can lay off all that praying, too.


Of course I forgot omniscient, I'm not omniscient!
 
2023-02-08 8:29:21 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: I think it's weird and counterintuitive to have a gendered god, but the manual is pretty specific that the christian god is male.


Yep, I also regularly read Oglaf.  He's also circumcised, and he is really homophobic.
 
2023-02-08 8:29:26 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Muslims have been using a gender neutral name the whole time! Allah has no gender nor other attributes to us, yet we use "he" just because it's easier.


That is just complete and utter bullshiat. They use HE because they believe God is male. And the way all religions, including Islam, regards women only reinforces that fact.

All religions suck giant donkey dicks when it comes to women. There is no way you will ever convince me that any man truly believes God is genderless. There's no way religion could do to women what it has done if a vast majority of men weren't power mad assholes using a male God as an excuse for their tyranny
 
2023-02-08 8:29:52 AM  

AnotherDeadBard: Why does god need a spaceship penis?


Ask Zeus what he did with his.
 
2023-02-08 8:31:12 AM  
I'm not practicing.
When I was (born Jewish, raised protestant), I never actually thought of God as a "he".
God is.....God.
Not "he".
Not "she"
Just God.
 
2023-02-08 8:33:04 AM  

bostonguy: Farkie does not check out?

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Jews score pretty high on Knowing Stuff About Other Religions tests.

/along with Jesuits, atheists and...Mormons?
 
2023-02-08 8:34:52 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Muslims have been using a gender neutral name the whole time! Allah has no gender nor other attributes to us, yet we use "he" just because it's easier.


a 15 second review of the quran contradicts your statement.
 
2023-02-08 8:36:18 AM  

Hermione_Granger: DarkSoulNoHope: Muslims have been using a gender neutral name the whole time! Allah has no gender nor other attributes to us, yet we use "he" just because it's easier.

That is just complete and utter bullshiat. They use HE because they believe God is male. And the way all religions, including Islam, regards women only reinforces that fact.

All religions suck giant donkey dicks when it comes to women. There is no way you will ever convince me that any man truly believes God is genderless. There's no way religion could do to women what it has done if a vast majority of men weren't power mad assholes using a male God as an excuse for their tyranny


Most of the Eastern religious totems are depicted as male as well. Somewhere in our lizard brains, authority of all kinds is perceived to be a mile trait.
 
2023-02-08 8:37:44 AM  
The Anglicans talk a big game, but guess what their stance is on same sex marriage?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/18/church-of-england-bishops-refuse-to-back-gay-marriage

There are pockets of sane Anglicans, like my local parish in Canada, but there are also like 3 of 4 splinter groups that are varying levels of crazy (and some Anglicans who just said "fark it" and became Catholic......but the priests can still be married. It's super weird.).

Anyway, marriage isn't a sacrament in Anglicanism like it is in Catholicism, so I don't really get the big deal. Though I also don't get the big deal in Catholicism. They don't allow divorce, but you can have some bishops check and see if your marriage was REALLY Catholic and give you an annulment......which is NOT a divorce. NOT.

There are also a few translations of the Bible that use gender neutral terms where appropriate, replacing the use of "man" in the sense of "humanity", that sort of thing. I can't remember what gender God is in the Hebrew, but in Islam "Allah" is actually a gender neutral term - in a language with a masculine and feminine grammatical gender, that word is a special case. So take that as you will.

And don't get me started on Christ as Sophia.......
 
2023-02-08 8:39:05 AM  

elaw: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: If God is omnipotent, God is also Omnisexual.

Probably omnivorous too.


Somebody didn't read their Old Testament.  I Am is a straight up carnivore.  Just ask Cain.
 
2023-02-08 8:39:53 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Flowery Twats: HotWingConspiracy: I think it's weird and counterintuitive to have a gendered god, but the manual is pretty specific that the christian god is male.

...the manual written exclusively by males? I'd like a second opinion, please.

They believe it's the direct word of god. Nobody can stop you from writing your own bible though, lots of people have done it.


The people who think it's the "direct word of God" are reading an edited version translated away from its original language, and won't address the inherent contradictions within the text. I don't believe I care too much what they think about which gender 1/3 of the grouping of entities is, and support the idea that a church that predates most of those sects is re-examining it.
 
2023-02-08 8:40:22 AM  
Gender is only important if there's more than one of you.
 
2023-02-08 8:40:24 AM  
We capitalize God's pronouns, subby.  If there were ever a time in history to get that right, it's now.

/Now you f*cked up
 
2023-02-08 8:40:25 AM  

TWX: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: If God is omnipotent, God is also Omnisexual.

I thought that was Zeus.  I mean, figuring the maiden had a swan fetish...


Or she was into golden showers.

/What?!
//It's a perfectly cromulent myth!
///Look it up!
 
2023-02-08 8:42:21 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: If God is omnipotent, God is also Omnisexual.


It just hit him that this means God is Slaneesh.
 
2023-02-08 8:44:05 AM  
..."And on the Eighth Day, God grew lonely, so He They divided Himself Themself into myriad equal parts, so that He They might have Friends."
 
2023-02-08 8:44:09 AM  
It's too late for me.  I already converted to The Satanic Temple.

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2023-02-08 8:45:38 AM  
Meh...how do you refer to your phone? "It" is appropriate. When referring to a tornado, "it" is appropriate. When referring to a song, "it" is appropriate. Therefore, when referring to an ephemeral idea (like "God", zeitgeist, ennui, "the Force," etc.), "it" is appropriate.
 
2023-02-08 8:48:28 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: Sexuality implies a female deity and you can't have that. Can you?


Not anymore anyway.
 
2023-02-08 8:51:48 AM  

functionisalwaystaken: Somebody didn't read their Old Testament.  I Am is a straight up carnivore.  Just ask Cain.


If I remember correctly, Jewish tradition -- a midrash or something from then Talmud? -- teaches that people were herbivores before the Flood. But others might know more than I.

The (terrible!) movie Noah (2014) hinted at it, I believe. Russell Crowe's family were herbivores or vegans or something, and the evil band of men who attacked them ate meat. Or something like that.
 
2023-02-08 8:52:06 AM  
Do the Easter Bunny next.
 
2023-02-08 8:53:22 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: DarkSoulNoHope: Muslims have been using a gender neutral name the whole time! Allah has no gender nor other attributes to us, yet we use "he" just because it's easier.

a 15 second review of the quran contradicts your statement.


Were you reading it in English, by any chance?

Arabic grammar is......different.
 
2023-02-08 8:53:27 AM  
🎵Tell me all your thoughts on God
'Cause I'd really like to meet her
And ask her why we're who we are
Tell me all your thoughts on God
'Cause I'm on my way to see her
So tell me am I very far,
Am I very far now?🎵
 
2023-02-08 8:56:29 AM  

Another Government Employee: Hermione_Granger: DarkSoulNoHope: Muslims have been using a gender neutral name the whole time! Allah has no gender nor other attributes to us, yet we use "he" just because it's easier.

That is just complete and utter bullshiat. They use HE because they believe God is male. And the way all religions, including Islam, regards women only reinforces that fact.

All religions suck giant donkey dicks when it comes to women. There is no way you will ever convince me that any man truly believes God is genderless. There's no way religion could do to women what it has done if a vast majority of men weren't power mad assholes using a male God as an excuse for their tyranny

Most of the Eastern religious totems are depicted as male as well. Somewhere in our lizard brains, authority of all kinds is perceived to be a mile trait.


Objection your Honor: The Tao is beyond gods and has no gender. Male and female, associated with Yang and Yin are clearly defined as equal and opposite. When they are out of balance, trouble happens.
 
2023-02-08 8:56:35 AM  
Deck chairs on the Titanic.
 
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