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(Colorado Springs Gazette)   With no CRT to oppose, Colorado Spring parents turn to SEL to angry up the blood   (gazette.com) divider line
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baka-san [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 8:45:41 PM  
From what I saw before the paywall slammed shut

I have no issues with this
 
2fardownthread [recently expired TotalFark]
2023-02-07 9:12:12 PM  
The Gazette riles Colo Springs residents on a regular basis. I can't recall any time when there has not been some real or perceived scandal, threat, debacle, crime, with all of the attendant letters from busybodies. Everybody cares, but strangely, nobody there can really be said to have a "stake" in this stuff.

The Springs is a weird place and it always has been. It is a bizarre nexus of Tesla, Heinlein, the AF Academy, the Olympic Training Center, NORAD, Ft. Carson, Megachurches, The caves in Manitou, Pikes Peak.

But biker gangs, dive bars, and ranch and horse people living out in the forest. Plenty of that too.And lots of suburbia.

My guess is that someone is casting SEL as mind control or humanism, which they feel should not be taught in schools. Just as meditation and yoga are anti-Christian, etc. The people who actually use public schools are mostly in favor of it. All of the busybodies and home-schoolers want to tell educators what to do. The usual.
 
hubiestubert [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 10:08:27 PM  
"How DARE they help kids grow past the damage that we've worked HARD at inflicting on them!"
 
Notabunny [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 10:43:50 PM  
Shave Every Llama?
 
Another Government Employee
2023-02-07 10:45:43 PM  
"It's hard to learn if you're not regulated."

By whose definition?

/ Another brick in the wall
 
WTP 2
2023-02-07 10:46:19 PM  
well, it is hard to find a fat back TV anymore....
 
morg
2023-02-07 10:47:10 PM  
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replacementcool
2023-02-07 10:49:37 PM  

baka-san: From what I saw before the paywall slammed shut

I have no issues with this


"Proponents say SEL is a positive way of developing people skills and managing one's own feelings, thus decreasing violent behavior, depression and anxiety among young students. At Colorado Springs District 11's Wilson Elementary, suspensions have decreased and academic success has improved since the school bolstered SEL programming and counseling in recent years, according to Bristol."


oh yeah sounds farking evil. i'd farking hate my kid being taught this disgusting evil shiat.

/s
 
replacementcool
2023-02-07 10:50:54 PM  

baka-san: From what I saw before the paywall slammed shut

I have no issues with this


"Liu and like-minded individuals say emotional development is best left to parents rather than teachers, who are overburdened as is. If an instructor lacks proper experience or training, she said, the programing could veer into critical race theory teachings on social justice and equality. Liu further described SEL as a behavioral psychology tool to transform children's core values and attitudes."

oh wait, no, you just agree with  right wing idiots.
 
gamergirl23
2023-02-07 10:55:00 PM  

replacementcool: baka-san: From what I saw before the paywall slammed shut

I have no issues with this

"Liu and like-minded individuals say emotional development is best left to parents rather than teachers, who are overburdened as is. If an instructor lacks proper experience or training, she said, the programing could veer into critical race theory teachings on social justice and equality. Liu further described SEL as a behavioral psychology tool to transform children's core values and attitudes."

oh wait, no, you just agree with  right wing idiots.


It's basically how not to be an asshole, which seems to be their core demographic. You can see how upsetting that must be for them.
 
moothemagiccow
2023-02-07 10:58:49 PM  
god if i had that social emotional learning i probably wouldn't be trolling on this godforsaken website right now
 
NobleHam
2023-02-07 11:02:13 PM  
Empathy is a threat to their politics.
 
WTP 2
2023-02-07 11:02:22 PM  
Morg, that is a monitor, but i give you points for it !!
 
odinsposse
2023-02-07 11:08:29 PM  
"Nobody taught me healthy mental skills when I was a kid so I need to sabotage these kids now."

-Moderate non-radicals who have common sense
 
Thoreny
2023-02-07 11:09:18 PM  
FTA

At Colorado Springs District 11's Wilson Elementary, suspensions have decreased and academic success has improved since the school bolstered SEL programming and counseling in recent years

It may be strange. It may be different. But if it works, then I'm all for it.
 
6nome
2023-02-07 11:09:56 PM  

2fardownthread: The Gazette riles Colo Springs residents on a regular basis. I can't recall any time when there has not been some real or perceived scandal, threat, debacle, crime, with all of the attendant letters from busybodies. Everybody cares, but strangely, nobody there can really be said to have a "stake" in this stuff.

The Springs is a weird place and it always has been. It is a bizarre nexus of Tesla, Heinlein, the AF Academy, the Olympic Training Center, NORAD, Ft. Carson, Megachurches, The caves in Manitou, Pikes Peak.

But biker gangs, dive bars, and ranch and horse people living out in the forest. Plenty of that too.And lots of suburbia.

My guess is that someone is casting SEL as mind control or humanism, which they feel should not be taught in schools. Just as meditation and yoga are anti-Christian, etc. The people who actually use public schools are mostly in favor of it. All of the busybodies and home-schoolers want to tell educators what to do. The usual.


I have a cousin that just ragequit living in Colorado Springs because it's becoming too liberal and "turning into a hellhole like California".
 
GodComplex
2023-02-07 11:11:16 PM  
This has been a core lesson in elementary schools around here for a decade, if not more. I swear these folk just need to yell at clouds to justify the lack of Matlock reruns.
 
Thoreny
2023-02-07 11:11:28 PM  

6nome: have a cousin that just ragequit living in Colorado Springs because it's becoming too liberal and "turning into a hellhole like California"


ROFL

Colorado Springs is like one of the most conservative parts of the state. Hell, last time I was there in 2019 they didn't have any dispensaries selling weed.
 
big pig peaches
2023-02-07 11:12:34 PM  
Are "parents" not a thing anymore?
 
Thoreny
2023-02-07 11:13:55 PM  

big pig peaches: Are "parents" not a thing anymore?


Parents are terrible. Especially with their own children. Do you know how many parents get steaming hot mad at the teacher when their children bring home a bad report card?
 
mikaloyd [OhFark]
2023-02-07 11:14:14 PM  

Another Government Employee: "It's hard to learn if you're not regulated."

By whose definition?



The Regulators' definition I suppose.
It must be true. They said so.
 
My Sober Alt
2023-02-07 11:14:36 PM  
That might have benefitted me when I was in school.
 
Fark_Guy_Rob
2023-02-07 11:18:07 PM  
Meh. Personally SEL sounds like a bunch of crap. I'm glad I'm old and don't have to deal with school anymore.
 
foo monkey
2023-02-07 11:18:51 PM  
They should go get some weed at a recreational dispensary and chill out.

Oh wait, Colorado Springs doesn't zone for recreational dispensaries, because they're weirdos.
 
Jumpthruhoops
2023-02-07 11:20:38 PM  

mikaloyd: Another Government Employee: "It's hard to learn if you're not regulated."

By whose definition?


The Regulators' definition I suppose.
It must be true. They said so.


And now the Warren G song is in my head. I should go to bed.
 
goodluckwiththat [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 11:30:16 PM  
meanwhile, out here on the western slope, Lauren Butthurt still is my rep <yay>.
/did not see the SOTU, don't need to see the hecklers, don't need to see Sara Hucksterbee lie.
 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 11:32:13 PM  

big pig peaches: Are "parents" not a thing anymore?


Parents have never been a thing. Teachers don't know about teaching, parents can't parent, and don't even get me started on the things that workers don't know about their own jobs.
 
Shamrock1
2023-02-07 11:43:36 PM  
Go to any school board meeting and you're likely to encounter someone screeching that SEL is really a sneaky way for "groomers" to turn students into CRT-loving, Fauci-worshipping transgender communists.

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moothemagiccow
2023-02-07 11:44:35 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Meh. Personally SEL sounds like a bunch of crap. I'm glad I'm old and don't have to deal with school anymore.


It's like an hour a week for K-2. I'd rank it at P.E. level, just above the music class that teaches you what a violin is but not how to play it
 
Be polite walk on the right
2023-02-07 11:44:47 PM  
Cathode Ray Tubes -- or CRT, for short -- were large, deep, heavy closed-glass vaccuum tubes that could produce moving picture-images on the rounded end and were used for watching pornography before flat-screen LCDs were available
 
BolloxReader [OhFark]
2023-02-07 11:44:51 PM  
If schools aren't letting me program my own bigotries and hatreds and callousness into my kids to perpetuate my biases for another generation that's a violation of my God-given rights as a parent!

/No it's not
//You aren't entitled to poison your kids
\|/three as is tradition
 
moothemagiccow
2023-02-07 11:45:44 PM  
If I had to describe SEL I'd say it's Dear Abby for five-year-olds
 
foo monkey
2023-02-07 11:51:05 PM  

2fardownthread: The Gazette riles Colo Springs residents on a regular basis. I can't recall any time when there has not been some real or perceived scandal, threat, debacle, crime, with all of the attendant letters from busybodies. Everybody cares, but strangely, nobody there can really be said to have a "stake" in this stuff.

The Springs is a weird place and it always has been. It is a bizarre nexus of Tesla, Heinlein, the AF Academy, the Olympic Training Center, NORAD, Ft. Carson, Megachurches, The caves in Manitou, Pikes Peak.

But biker gangs, dive bars, and ranch and horse people living out in the forest. Plenty of that too.And lots of suburbia.

My guess is that someone is casting SEL as mind control or humanism, which they feel should not be taught in schools. Just as meditation and yoga are anti-Christian, etc. The people who actually use public schools are mostly in favor of it. All of the busybodies and home-schoolers want to tell educators what to do. The usual.


Needs a couple tablespoons of Libertarianism to account for the sprawl and shiatty road maintenance, but otherwise dead-on.
 
Dinodork [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 11:51:16 PM  

2fardownthread: The Gazette riles Colo Springs residents on a regular basis. I can't recall any time when there has not been some real or perceived scandal, threat, debacle, crime, with all of the attendant letters from busybodies. Everybody cares, but strangely, nobody there can really be said to have a "stake" in this stuff.

The Springs is a weird place and it always has been. It is a bizarre nexus of Tesla, Heinlein, the AF Academy, the Olympic Training Center, NORAD, Ft. Carson, Megachurches, The caves in Manitou, Pikes Peak.

But biker gangs, dive bars, and ranch and horse people living out in the forest. Plenty of that too.And lots of suburbia.

My guess is that someone is casting SEL as mind control or humanism, which they feel should not be taught in schools. Just as meditation and yoga are anti-Christian, etc. The people who actually use public schools are mostly in favor of it. All of the busybodies and home-schoolers want to tell educators what to do. The usual.


Hey you leave my manitou and our cave witches out of this.

The Gazette is an Anchutz enterprise. That's all that really needs to be said.
 
chitownmike
2023-02-08 12:05:09 AM  

WTP 2: Morg, that is a monitor, but i give you points for it !!


Cathode Ray Tube
 
WTP 2
2023-02-08 12:19:50 AM  

chitownmike: WTP 2: Morg, that is a monitor, but i give you points for it !!

Cathode Ray Tube


yep.
 
olorin604
2023-02-08 12:24:17 AM  
So does picking fights with anonymous strangers on an internet message board mean I have social emotional learning or need it??
 
James T. Kirk
2023-02-08 12:32:37 AM  

moothemagiccow: If I had to describe SEL I'd say it's Dear Abby for five-year-olds


I usually say it's what Mr Rogers did before anybody had a name for it.
 
olorin604
2023-02-08 12:34:06 AM  

Be polite walk on the right: Cathode Ray Tubes -- or CRT, for short -- were large, deep, heavy closed-glass vaccuum tubes that could produce moving picture-images on the rounded end and were used for watching pornography before flat-screen LCDs were available


I can't believe I used to haul those things around for lan parties.

The monitor and tower basically took up the back seat of my car.
 
neapoi [TotalFark]
2023-02-08 12:49:57 AM  
No farking shiat republicans don't like emotional learning. To a one: they are unintelligent subhuman pieces of dog shiat.
 
Mrtraveler01
2023-02-08 12:53:50 AM  

6nome: 2fardownthread: The Gazette riles Colo Springs residents on a regular basis. I can't recall any time when there has not been some real or perceived scandal, threat, debacle, crime, with all of the attendant letters from busybodies. Everybody cares, but strangely, nobody there can really be said to have a "stake" in this stuff.

The Springs is a weird place and it always has been. It is a bizarre nexus of Tesla, Heinlein, the AF Academy, the Olympic Training Center, NORAD, Ft. Carson, Megachurches, The caves in Manitou, Pikes Peak.

But biker gangs, dive bars, and ranch and horse people living out in the forest. Plenty of that too.And lots of suburbia.

My guess is that someone is casting SEL as mind control or humanism, which they feel should not be taught in schools. Just as meditation and yoga are anti-Christian, etc. The people who actually use public schools are mostly in favor of it. All of the busybodies and home-schoolers want to tell educators what to do. The usual.

I have a cousin that just ragequit living in Colorado Springs because it's becoming too liberal and "turning into a hellhole like California".


So they basically lost their shiat when In-N-Out opened there huh?
 
Wine Sipping Elitist [TotalFark]
2023-02-08 1:14:58 AM  
"You can't learn if you're not regulated," Wilson Elementary School counselor Cassidy Bristol said. "That's just the truth. You can't."

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Warren G approves
 
pollyprepper
2023-02-08 1:17:04 AM  
It seems unnecessary, children do not need to be taught how to exist in their own thoughts. They should spend that money teaching kids how to spot predatory behavior in other people. We aren't doing our kids any favors controlling so much of their childhood.
 
TorpedoOrca
2023-02-08 1:17:48 AM  
They taught me social emotional learnings!

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My god! Show me on the doll where they taught you empathy
 
Biscuit Tin [TotalFark]
2023-02-08 2:06:19 AM  
Political and religious conservatives share this underlying belief: There is no right action in this world except that action which benefits you and those exactly like you. Any attempt to understand "the other" will lead to the weakening and eventual murder of you and your tribe. Thus do they hate and fear SEL.
 
Gordon Bennett [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-08 2:27:14 AM  
Teachers also use the time for "Random Acts of Kindness" lessons, which helps "schools create a culture of kindness,"

*gasp*

If an instructor lacks proper experience or training, she said, the programing could veer into critical race theory teachings on social justice and equality.

Oh, no! They might accidentally teach our babies about justice and equality! How dare they interfere with our efforts to groom them into becoming the same sort of monsters that we are?
 
replacementcool
2023-02-08 2:52:24 AM  

pollyprepper: It seems unnecessary, children do not need to be taught how to exist in their own thoughts. They should spend that money teaching kids how to spot predatory behavior in other people. We aren't doing our kids any favors controlling so much of their childhood.


You mean teaching kids about consent in comprehensive sex education programs?


Republicans don't like that either, because that makes kids harder to rape.
 
GreenSun
2023-02-08 2:54:53 AM  
YES TO EQUALITY.

YES TO KINDNESS.

NO TO EQUITY.

NO TO VICTIMHOOD.
 
AgentKGB [TotalFark]
2023-02-08 3:02:52 AM  

Shamrock1: Go to any school board meeting and you're likely to encounter someone screeching that SEL is really a sneaky way for "groomers" to turn students into CRT-loving, Fauci-worshipping transgender communists.

[Fark user image 425x685]


It's not just limited to America either. When I worked in the school system, my school district embraced a lot of the ACE teachings for working with kids who had suffered trauma.

https://www.graduateprogram.org/2020/07/adverse-childhood-experiences-how-they-impact-learning/

That type of thing.

Certain Reich-wing nutjob parents shiat their pants. *rolls eyes*
 
MacWizard
2023-02-08 3:12:58 AM  

big pig peaches: Are "parents" not a thing anymore?


From TFA -- School counselors say SEL programming has only become more important since COVID-19 sent kids home for extended periods of time, depriving them of socialization skills that typically develop at their respective stages in life.

"A lot of them came back with super low compassion," Bristol said, citing survey data collected from students after returning to in-person instruction.

Students had for more than a year been taught to avoid touching others. Masks further complicated matters by obscuring a person's face, making it hard to interpret what emotion they might be feeling.

For a year they were at home. Their parents did not help them learn compassion or empathy, since they came back with less of an ability to display those things. Thinking back on my own youth, those were skills that I learned from social interaction, much more than from anything my parents ever taught me. And let's be honest, some parents aren't particularly gifted with compassion or empathy in the first place, so expecting them to teach those things to their children is a stretch.
 
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