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Lambskincoat [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 3:09:44 PM  
I would have lost my mind, I hope she gets a billion dollars. Private prisons, what a stupid f#cking idea.
 
RolandTGunner [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 5:32:49 PM  
Only 72 hours? Lloyd Henreid is not impressed.
 
Kalyco Jack
2023-02-07 5:36:01 PM  

Lambskincoat: I would have lost my mind, I hope she gets a billion dollars. Private prisons, what a stupid f#cking idea.


It was a courthouse. Private security at a courthouse is just government being cheapskates.
 
whither_apophis [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 5:39:48 PM  
72 year old janitors, what a country
 
Walker [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 5:40:10 PM  
Only in America does a 72-year-old still have to be a janitor.
Maybe she can retire when she wins the lawsuit.
 
Optimus Primate [OhFark]
2023-02-07 5:40:39 PM  

RolandTGunner: Only 72 hours? Lloyd Henreid is not impressed.


These obscure references will not Stand!
 
uncoveror
2023-02-07 5:42:32 PM  
Sue for their gross assets, cubed.
 
quo vadimus
2023-02-07 5:43:54 PM  
Wow. I figured they were just being lazy and skipping rounds. No: they were being lazy and skipping rounds, AND had an open log with someone expected to sign out on Friday night.

Fast forward: Allied Universal Security has declared bankruptcy and is hereby dissolved. Orange County has awarded Allied's former contract to a newcomer in the field: Alliance Worldwide Security.
 
The Exit Stencilist
2023-02-07 5:45:18 PM  

Kalyco Jack: Lambskincoat: I would have lost my mind, I hope she gets a billion dollars. Private prisons, what a stupid f#cking idea.

It was a courthouse. Private security at a courthouse is just government being cheapskates.


No shiat, especially since this was a County Court, so they have full access to the Sheriff's Dept and most defintiely use Sheriffs as Bailiffs and Courthouse Security during the day.

Sounds to me like they went with cheap ass security outfit for overnight security and all they did was sit around playing on their phone. There is no way they were doing room to room roves as they should be doing at least 2-3 times during the night, or they would have seen the poor lady or at least heard her banging on the door when they entered the courtroom
 
The Dog Ate My Homework
2023-02-07 5:47:39 PM  

Walker: Only in America does a 72-year-old still have to be a janitor.
Maybe she can retire when she wins the lawsuit.


Well, not ONLY in America. Not by a long shot. But the company we have in that category is nothing to be proud of.
 
BunchaRubes
2023-02-07 5:48:52 PM  
Sucks to be her, but who other than her lawyer is saying the security company was supposed to perform patrols during hours the courthouse isn't open?

"Her driver's license is still sitting there, her log is unsigned," McAfee explained. "They've a system in place. How did they blow through so many stop signs?"

"Huh, Libia's license is still here.  Did she go home with the keys again?"

If they are supposed to go through each floor of the courthouse, there should be a log on each floor that shows they walked this floor at this time."

If.

That's coming from a lawyer that works for Anidjar & Levine, personal injury attorneys.  It's all good, man.
 
Red Shirt Blues
2023-02-07 5:50:42 PM  
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steklo [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 5:53:01 PM  
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smells like Teen Spirit in here...
 
dbirchall [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 5:54:26 PM  
Poor pooch, ain't gonna be able to sit for a month after being screwed like that.
 
The Exit Stencilist
2023-02-07 5:57:05 PM  

BunchaRubes: Sucks to be her, but who other than her lawyer is saying the security company was supposed to perform patrols during hours the courthouse isn't open?


Any security outfit, that's who. Performing roves is a basic and very important part of the job. Without roves, all you have is a guy sitting in one spot, staring off into space all night, while who knows what else is going on in other parts of the grounds or building. You have a log book to record your roves and anything you might notice while on them. This is a separate log from the desk log for guests etc

Moreover, they had a log book for the janitorial and maintenance staff. It showed her still on the log, not signed out the entire damned weekend after clocking in on Friday night, so they definitely should have gone out looking for her when she didn't sign out as expected at 10pm. Doubly so since she had her keys and ID at the front desk contingent upon her sign-out

Surprising you would rush to the defense of a rent-a-cop, I could only imagine the amount of contortions, groveling and boot-licking you'd do if the Murdering Bastards in Blue were involved
 
leeksfromchichis [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 5:59:21 PM  

Walker: Only in America does a 72-year-old still have to be a janitor.
Maybe she can retire when she wins the lawsuit.


That's not only America, but we should definitely just get rid of the idea of work to live as a society.
 
milizard
2023-02-07 6:01:02 PM  
What else is there to do when working security but walk around the place once in a while? How lazy can you be?
 
Any Pie Left
2023-02-07 6:03:24 PM  
Allied swallowed G4S and is now the voltron of security companies.

I asked a buddy in the industry once, why some of the guards they hire for government buildings were so... bad.
She told me, essentially, the building gets a huge break on their fire insurance if there's a live, breathing body at the front desk. A break that more than pays for the minimum wage level seat-fillers I used to see glued to the state-owned security monitor computers, apparently guarding Youtube and Amazon Prime from people coming into the building. Because they sure as shiat weren't watching the parking lot cameras.
 
maxandgrinch [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 6:04:43 PM  
A cell that can't be unlocked by just anyone from the inside? That's just crazy talk.

Who designs this stuff and how do they get away with it
 
Tyrone Slothrop
2023-02-07 6:06:44 PM  
Oh, they did their job all right. It's just that their job isn't running a safe prison system.
 
Jeff5
2023-02-07 6:08:21 PM  

Kalyco Jack: Lambskincoat: I would have lost my mind, I hope she gets a billion dollars. Private prisons, what a stupid f#cking idea.

It was a courthouse. Private security at a courthouse is just government being cheapskates.


That's the beauty of privatizing governmental functions, this almost certainly costs more than using county employees would. The company makes a profit on every level, the guard, the guard's supervisor, the supervisor's vehicle, corporate office space.

Taxpayers pay more and get less: It's the American Way!
 
Tyrone Slothrop
2023-02-07 6:08:50 PM  

Walker: Only in America does a 72-year-old still have to be a janitor.
Maybe she can retire when she wins the lawsuit.


There are Farkers who have bragged they never plan on retiring. As if working for all your life is something to be admired.

/as opposed to Farkers who would like to retire, but will never be able to do so.
 
Ivo Shandor [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 6:10:18 PM  

maxandgrinch: A cell that can't be unlocked by just anyone from the inside? That's just crazy talk.

Who designs this stuff and how do they get away with it


It should stay unlocked until someone on the outside locks it, or it should have been locked in the first place so that the janitor couldn't enter.
 
monkeyboycjc [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 6:11:20 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: BunchaRubes: Sucks to be her, but who other than her lawyer is saying the security company was supposed to perform patrols during hours the courthouse isn't open?


Any security outfit, that's who. Performing roves is a basic and very important part of the job. Without roves, all you have is a guy sitting in one spot, staring off into space all night, while who knows what else is going on in other parts of the grounds or building. You have a log book to record your roves and anything you might notice while on them. This is a separate log from the desk log for guests etc

Moreover, they had a log book for the janitorial and maintenance staff. It showed her still on the log, not signed out the entire damned weekend after clocking in on Friday night, so they definitely should have gone out looking for her when she didn't sign out as expected at 10pm. Doubly so since she had her keys and ID at the front desk contingent upon her sign-out

Surprising you would rush to the defense of a rent-a-cop, I could only imagine the amount of contortions, groveling and boot-licking you'd do if the Murdering Bastards in Blue were involved

I work security/doorman on the weekends. So much this.
 
Jeff5
2023-02-07 6:12:45 PM  

Jeff5: Kalyco Jack: Lambskincoat: I would have lost my mind, I hope she gets a billion dollars. Private prisons, what a stupid f#cking idea.

It was a courthouse. Private security at a courthouse is just government being cheapskates.

That's the beauty of privatizing governmental functions, this almost certainly costs more than using county employees would. The company makes a profit on every level, the guard, the guard's supervisor, the supervisor's vehicle, corporate office space.

Taxpayers pay more and get less: It's the American Way!


Think of it, if they were using new-hire cops for a training/screening period to see if they can follow procedures (make your rounds, write down anomalies, don't beat anybody to death with that thing), supervised by the shift supervisor already on duty with little to do, spread across the city and county, who's making money on that?
 
DuneClimber
2023-02-07 6:15:13 PM  
This could be the basis for a Stephen King novel.
 
OilfieldDrunk [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 6:16:13 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Walker: Only in America does a 72-year-old still have to be a janitor.
Maybe she can retire when she wins the lawsuit.

There are Farkers who have bragged they never plan on retiring. As if working for all your life is something to be admired.

/as opposed to Farkers who would like to retire, but will never be able to do so.


I fully accept that me never wanting to retire is a mental health issue. I didn't work from March 21-May 1st going through the hiring process for my new job after moving. I made renovating my house my job during that time. Grandma just retired at 90 something. She worked so she wouldn't be bored. In this case no one is working as a janitor for fun though
 
no_tan_lines
2023-02-07 6:21:15 PM  

uncoveror: Sue for their gross assets, cubed.


In October 2021, Allied Universal completed a US$5.1 billion takeover of British security firm G4S, creating a combined company of 800,000 employees, with revenues of more than US$18 billion.[4]
 
DanInKansas
2023-02-07 6:22:16 PM  
Them boys might as well get the checkbook out right now, because there is no way they're winning this one at trial.
 
DanInKansas
2023-02-07 6:25:37 PM  

Kalyco Jack: Lambskincoat: I would have lost my mind, I hope she gets a billion dollars. Private prisons, what a stupid f#cking idea.

It was a courthouse. Private security at a courthouse is just government being cheapskates.


Remember, the phrase "public-private partnership" always means "transferring wealth from taxpayers to ownership while decreasing wages and benefits."
 
GloomCookie613
2023-02-07 6:27:41 PM  

BunchaRubes: Sucks to be her, but who other than her lawyer is saying the security company was supposed to perform patrols during hours the courthouse isn't open?

"Her driver's license is still sitting there, her log is unsigned," McAfee explained. "They've a system in place. How did they blow through so many stop signs?"

"Huh, Libia's license is still here.  Did she go home with the keys again?"

If they are supposed to go through each floor of the courthouse, there should be a log on each floor that shows they walked this floor at this time."

If.

That's coming from a lawyer that works for Anidjar & Levine, personal injury attorneys.  It's all good, man.

"Huh, Libia's license is still here. Did she go home with the keys again?"


But don't, like, go check or anything. Ya know... THEIR FARKING JOB?
 
houstondragon
2023-02-07 6:29:03 PM  

Any Pie Left: Allied swallowed G4S and is now the voltron of security companies.

I asked a buddy in the industry once, why some of the guards they hire for government buildings were so... bad.
She told me, essentially, the building gets a huge break on their fire insurance if there's a live, breathing body at the front desk. A break that more than pays for the minimum wage level seat-fillers I used to see glued to the state-owned security monitor computers, apparently guarding Youtube and Amazon Prime from people coming into the building. Because they sure as shiat weren't watching the parking lot cameras.


I worked for Allied for a couple of years when the economy was total shiat, and can firmly attest they do NOT want people who are actually following their policies.

The amount of heat and backlash when uncovering the bullshiat at one posting reminded me why I didn't need to work there. And it's full of would be wanna-cops itching to flex their "authoritah"
 
Tom Marvolo Bombadil
2023-02-07 6:38:22 PM  

milizard: What else is there to do when working security but walk around the place once in a while?


My money is on "watch porn on your phone".
 
olorin604
2023-02-07 6:38:40 PM  

monkeyboycjc: The Exit Stencilist: BunchaRubes: Sucks to be her, but who other than her lawyer is saying the security company was supposed to perform patrols during hours the courthouse isn't open?

Any security outfit, that's who. Performing roves is a basic and very important part of the job. Without roves, all you have is a guy sitting in one spot, staring off into space all night, while who knows what else is going on in other parts of the grounds or building. You have a log book to record your roves and anything you might notice while on them. This is a separate log from the desk log for guests etc

Moreover, they had a log book for the janitorial and maintenance staff. It showed her still on the log, not signed out the entire damned weekend after clocking in on Friday night, so they definitely should have gone out looking for her when she didn't sign out as expected at 10pm. Doubly so since she had her keys and ID at the front desk contingent upon her sign-out

Surprising you would rush to the defense of a rent-a-cop, I could only imagine the amount of contortions, groveling and boot-licking you'd do if the Murdering Bastards in Blue were involved

I work security/doorman on the weekends. So much this.


Not arguing, but wouldnt that kind of thing be laid out in the contract between allied and the courthouse?
 
Klippoklondike [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 6:39:59 PM  
Basic rounds involve checking every cell, even empty cells.  That is absolutely awful, I feel horrible for her.  Hope she gets paaaaaaiiiiiiiiiid.
 
Northern
2023-02-07 6:49:32 PM  

whither_apophis: 72 year old janitors, what a country


This.
She should get damages, plus overtime pay for the full amount of her weekly 40 plus 72 hours.
Also, why can't she retire?
 
GloomCookie613
2023-02-07 6:54:11 PM  

Northern: whither_apophis: 72 year old janitors, what a country

This.
She should get damages, plus overtime pay for the full amount of her weekly 40 plus 72 hours.
Also, why can't she retire?


Smarted for first line. Laughed bc of the last line.
 
Bill_Wick's_Friend
2023-02-07 7:20:47 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Walker: Only in America does a 72-year-old still have to be a janitor.
Maybe she can retire when she wins the lawsuit.

There are Farkers who have bragged they never plan on retiring. As if working for all your life is something to be admired.

/as opposed to Farkers who would like to retire, but will never be able to do so.


I love what I do
I'm good at it
I get paid well
I sit at a desk so I'm not breaking my body every day
My industry has a rather casual and lax attitude towards liquor and drugs
There are a ton of fun perks to my job

I am certainly slowing down and taking more vacations and longer long weekends as I get older and have more disposable income, but retire?  Why?  I've been at this for 25 years and success can be graphed on a logarithmic scale.  I easily have another 25 years to go.  Why would I quit when it just keeps getting better

/planning to drop dead at my desk at 87
//whiskey glass in-hand
 
BunchaRubes
2023-02-07 8:01:37 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: BunchaRubes: Sucks to be her, but who other than her lawyer is saying the security company was supposed to perform patrols during hours the courthouse isn't open?

Any security outfit, that's who. Performing roves is a basic and very important part of the job. Without roves, all you have is a guy sitting in one spot, staring off into space all night, while who knows what else is going on in other parts of the grounds or building. You have a log book to record your roves and anything you might notice while on them. This is a separate log from the desk log for guests etc

Moreover, they had a log book for the janitorial and maintenance staff. It showed her still on the log, not signed out the entire damned weekend after clocking in on Friday night, so they definitely should have gone out looking for her when she didn't sign out as expected at 10pm. Doubly so since she had her keys and ID at the front desk contingent upon her sign-out

Surprising you would rush to the defense of a rent-a-cop, I could only imagine the amount of contortions, groveling and boot-licking you'd do if the Murdering Bastards in Blue were involved


There's nothing you can tell me about it, the Infosec team I created years ago had physical security stuffed up under us.

"Performing roves is a basic and very important part of the job."Not with every client it isn't.

Without roves, all you have is a guy sitting in one spot, staring off into space all night monitoring a bank of security cameras.FTFY.

I could only imagine the amount of contortions, groveling and boot-licking you'd do if the Murdering Bastards in Blue were involved

Oh, you.

Now wash your hands, mom said dinner's ready in 5 and if you're not up here in 3 you get locked in the basement.  Again.
 
lizaardvark
2023-02-07 8:05:37 PM  

Walker: Only in America does a 72-year-old still have to be a janitor.
Maybe she can retire when she wins the lawsuit.


I gather that you'd like to force her to retire. Perhaps that is not what she has in mind.
 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 8:08:03 PM  

BunchaRubes: Sucks to be her, but who other than her lawyer is saying the security company was supposed to perform patrols during hours the courthouse isn't open?

"Her driver's license is still sitting there, her log is unsigned," McAfee explained. "They've a system in place. How did they blow through so many stop signs?"

"Huh, Libia's license is still here.  Did she go home with the keys again?"

If they are supposed to go through each floor of the courthouse, there should be a log on each floor that shows they walked this floor at this time."

If.

That's coming from a lawyer that works for Anidjar & Levine, personal injury attorneys.  It's all good, man.


If.

They are, he knows it, and the settlement negotiations are about how many zeroes need to be behind the one to keep him from filing those documents.

Allied Universal didnt get those rich creamy government contracts because they do a half-assed job.
 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 8:10:35 PM  

houstondragon: Any Pie Left: Allied swallowed G4S and is now the voltron of security companies.

I asked a buddy in the industry once, why some of the guards they hire for government buildings were so... bad.
She told me, essentially, the building gets a huge break on their fire insurance if there's a live, breathing body at the front desk. A break that more than pays for the minimum wage level seat-fillers I used to see glued to the state-owned security monitor computers, apparently guarding Youtube and Amazon Prime from people coming into the building. Because they sure as shiat weren't watching the parking lot cameras.

I worked for Allied for a couple of years when the economy was total shiat, and can firmly attest they do NOT want people who are actually following their policies.

The amount of heat and backlash when uncovering the bullshiat at one posting reminded me why I didn't need to work there. And it's full of would be wanna-cops itching to flex their "authoritah"


I know guys who worked for both companies. G4S was just Blackwater on the cheap.
 
Red Shirt Blues
2023-02-07 8:22:21 PM  

Northern: whither_apophis: 72 year old janitors, what a country

This.
She should get damages, plus overtime pay for the full amount of her weekly 40 plus 72 hours.
Also, why can't she retire?
 
GORDON
2023-02-07 8:26:47 PM  
The security guard who has the sweet job of sleeping in his chair all night unsupervised is about to get in trouble
 
RandyJohnson
2023-02-07 8:28:01 PM  

whither_apophis: 72 year old janitors, what a country


You seem to have a problem with this. Please explain why this is a problem and provide a solution.
 
vudukungfu [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 8:41:10 PM  
Outside of court and paperwork, she is retired now
 
morg
2023-02-07 8:46:52 PM  
Locking yourself in a holding cell feels like an 80s tv trope. She's lucky there wasn't quicksand in there.
 
OtherLittleGuy [BareFark]
2023-02-07 8:55:22 PM  
Ultra rare "72-year-old locked up in Florida under dubious circumstances" trifecta now in play.
 
My Sober Alt
2023-02-07 8:57:39 PM  
30 years ago I had a 20 year old neighbor living with his mother who wanted to get a job as a security guard and I think he eventually did.  I wouldn't trust him to guard anything that I would be too upset about if it got stolen.

At least he wanted to get a job.  He kind of hung out with a bad crowd including me - and his friend who tried to sell me a car stereo that I'm sure was stolen and I'm also sure would have been stolen out of my car too if I had bought it.
 
cefm
2023-02-07 9:12:06 PM  
Also what dumbass Times Square New Years Eve participants sign up for voluntarily.
 
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