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Pocket Ninja [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 2:54:01 PM  
The bill also maintains a list of jobs kids under 18 can't hold, such as working in slaughterhouses, meatpacking or rendering plants; mining; operating power-driven metal forming, punching or shearing machines; operating band or circular saws, guillotine shears or paper balers; or being involved in roofing operations or demolition work.

Oh, well that makes sense. At least they're not allowing...

In an entirely new section, however, the bill would allow the Iowa Workforce Development and state Department of Education heads to make exceptions to any of the prohibited jobs for teens 14-17 "participating in work-based learning or a school or employer-administered, work-related program."

Oh. Oh, I see. Well, at least exceptions have to be related to official training programs that can ensure responsibility on the part of the business/employer for anything that might...

The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence. A business also would be free of civil liability if a student is hurt because of the teen's negligence on the job - or is injured traveling to or from work.

Oh. No civil liability, huh? But surely there's got to be some sort of penalty if the business in question...

A company could face fines of up to $10,000 for violations under the bill...

Ah, there we go. I knew there had to be some teeth there to protect the children from overt...

...but the state's labor commissioner could reduce or waive the penalty.

Oh. Wow, OK. Gosh, I wonder who Iowa's labor commissioner is. Hopefully someone with a proven track record of really standing up for the safety of people in his state. I can't imagine...

Rod Roberts, the former Carroll state legislator who serves as Iowa's labor commissioner, says Iowa will not adhere to the Biden administration's vaccine mandate for employers with 100 or more people working for them. Bottom line: the state standards are strong enough, Roberts said.

Oh. OK, then. This is fine.
 
WGJ [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 3:26:35 PM  
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They cast their votes, they knew what they were getting into. I say let em crash.
 
Mr. Coffee Nerves [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 3:40:25 PM  
The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence.

We're not *monsters* -- I mean, when we asked Little Timmy to get in there with his small hands to dislodge that ear of corn from the ThreshMaster 5000 and he got sucked in, we didn't even ask his family to pay for the damage his shockingly sturdy bones caused to the whirling blades.
 
koder [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 3:44:29 PM  
If you never had a chance to find out how kiddie fingers tasted during The Jungle times, you're about to find out.
 
King Something [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 3:59:45 PM  
But remember, it's the Democrat Party [sic] and their job-killing regulations which are bad for America.
 
Ambivalence [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 4:18:40 PM  

Pocket Ninja: The bill also maintains a list of jobs kids under 18 can't hold, such as working in slaughterhouses, meatpacking or rendering plants; mining; operating power-driven metal forming, punching or shearing machines; operating band or circular saws, guillotine shears or paper balers; or being involved in roofing operations or demolition work.

Oh, well that makes sense. At least they're not allowing...

In an entirely new section, however, the bill would allow the Iowa Workforce Development and state Department of Education heads to make exceptions to any of the prohibited jobs for teens 14-17 "participating in work-based learning or a school or employer-administered, work-related program."

Oh. Oh, I see. Well, at least exceptions have to be related to official training programs that can ensure responsibility on the part of the business/employer for anything that might...

The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence. A business also would be free of civil liability if a student is hurt because of the teen's negligence on the job - or is injured traveling to or from work.

Oh. No civil liability, huh? But surely there's got to be some sort of penalty if the business in question...

A company could face fines of up to $10,000 for violations under the bill...

Ah, there we go. I knew there had to be some teeth there to protect the children from overt...

...but the state's labor commissioner could reduce or waive the penalty.

Oh. Wow, OK. Gosh, I wonder who Iowa's labor commissioner is. Hopefully someone with a proven track record of really standing up for the safety of people in his state. I can't imagine...

Rod Roberts, the former Carroll state legislator who serves as Iowa's labor commissioner, says Iowa will not adhere to the Biden administration's vaccine mandate for employers with 100 or more people working for them. Bottom line: the state standards are strong enough, Roberts said.

Oh ...


oh yeah, that article was quite the journey. "Oh, this isn't too bad." "Wait, what?" "What the hell?"
 
Barricaded Gunman
2023-02-07 4:22:19 PM  

Pocket Ninja: The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence.


This right here is simply amazing to me.
 
fiddlehead
2023-02-07 4:23:45 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: Pocket Ninja: The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence.

This right here is simply amazing to me.


Ditto, holy shiat.
 
mainsail
2023-02-07 4:24:26 PM  
Holy Fark, everything can be exempted or waived. I can't see this being abused at all.
 
WhackingDay
2023-02-07 4:25:16 PM  
"The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence. A business also would be free of civil liability if a student is hurt because of the teen's negligence on the job - or is injured traveling to or from work."

Great work. Really superb. I'm sure this will be fine.
 
Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist
2023-02-07 4:25:21 PM  

koder: If you never had a chance to find out how kiddie fingers tasted during The Jungle times, you're about to find out.


"You know where you are? You're in the jungle baby, you're gonna die!"
- Upton Sinclair, probably
 
Snapper Carr
2023-02-07 4:25:26 PM  
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LUXURY!
 
olorin604
2023-02-07 4:25:36 PM  
It would be nice to be treated as human beings, but American workers need to get used to being a capital assest, an easily replaced one that does not need to be maintained or protected. What, do you want dividends to go down and deprove the real people their excess.
 
Lumbar Puncture
2023-02-07 4:28:13 PM  

Hinged: Let the kids work if they want to and they have the free time.

What's wrong with that?


How else can we keep up with China? Sneakers don't make themselves.
 
Zerochance
2023-02-07 4:28:19 PM  
The party of deranged, greedy, sociopathic farkwads.

Best part is, their braindead voters will go along with getting farked to trigger the libs.
 
Cheron
2023-02-07 4:28:57 PM  
Great I look forward to being served by an apprentice getting $3/hr less than an adult would. Who will get leadoff just before they turn 18
 
Gin Buddy
2023-02-07 4:29:50 PM  

Pocket Ninja: The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence. A business also would be free of civil liability if a student is hurt because of the teen's negligence on the job - or is injured traveling to or from work.


Hinged: Let the kids work if they want to and they have the free time.

What's wrong with that?



Sounds like somebody who owns a sweatshop. Are you posting from China or Nepal?
 
Fista-Phobia
2023-02-07 4:30:08 PM  
Right-wing regressive garbage continue their race to the bottom.
 
Frederf
2023-02-07 4:30:11 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: Pocket Ninja: The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence.

This right here is simply amazing to me.


I'm confused by why even have 'negligence' as a term if it means nothing.
 
Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 4:30:16 PM  
But the kids still get their 15 minute cigarette break for every four hours worked, right?  So, what's everybody complaining about?
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DarkSoulNoHope
2023-02-07 4:30:33 PM  

fiddlehead: Barricaded Gunman: Pocket Ninja: The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence.

This right here is simply amazing to me.

Ditto, holy shiat.


Thirded. Are businesses exempt from civil liability if an adult is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence according to current Iowa law?!
 
kkinnison [OhFark]
2023-02-07 4:30:45 PM  
The law will pass. And be waiting for the SCOTUS to remove the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 before it will take affect
 
SomeAmerican
2023-02-07 4:31:17 PM  
In an entirely new section, however, the bill would allow the Iowa Workforce Development and state Department of Education heads to make exceptions to any of the prohibited jobs for teens 14-17 "participating in [an] employer-administered, work-related program."

So... kids 14 to 17 can't work in prohibited jobs, unless the job is "employer administered" and "work related".

Ummm... what jobs aren't?
 
zetar
2023-02-07 4:31:18 PM  
This is what a completely GQP controlled state looks like. All senators, representatives, both houses and everything from governor down are GQP.

/ Obama carried Iowa twice
// The Iowa Democratic Party is really incompetent
/// Glad they lost the caucuses.
 
MrSplifferton
2023-02-07 4:31:24 PM  
It says 16-17 year olds can serve alcohol.  Will they also only be female and wear skimpy outfits?  Farking Republicans are so transparent with their grossness.
 
tinderfitles
2023-02-07 4:31:46 PM  

Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: But the kids still get their 15 minute cigarette break for every four hours worked, right?  So, what's everybody complaining about?
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born_yesterday [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 4:32:49 PM  

Pocket Ninja: The bill also maintains a list of jobs kids under 18 can't hold, such as working in slaughterhouses, meatpacking or rendering plants; mining; operating power-driven metal forming, punching or shearing machines; operating band or circular saws, guillotine shears or paper balers; or being involved in roofing operations or demolition work.

Oh, well that makes sense. At least they're not allowing...

In an entirely new section, however, the bill would allow the Iowa Workforce Development and state Department of Education heads to make exceptions to any of the prohibited jobs for teens 14-17 "participating in work-based learning or a school or employer-administered, work-related program."

Oh. Oh, I see. Well, at least exceptions have to be related to official training programs that can ensure responsibility on the part of the business/employer for anything that might...

The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence. A business also would be free of civil liability if a student is hurt because of the teen's negligence on the job - or is injured traveling to or from work.

Oh. No civil liability, huh? But surely there's got to be some sort of penalty if the business in question...

A company could face fines of up to $10,000 for violations under the bill...

Ah, there we go. I knew there had to be some teeth there to protect the children from overt...

...but the state's labor commissioner could reduce or waive the penalty.

Oh. Wow, OK. Gosh, I wonder who Iowa's labor commissioner is. Hopefully someone with a proven track record of really standing up for the safety of people in his state. I can't imagine...

Rod Roberts, the former Carroll state legislator who serves as Iowa's labor commissioner, says Iowa will not adhere to the Biden administration's vaccine mandate for employers with 100 or more people working for them. Bottom line: the state standards are strong enough, Roberts said.

Oh. OK, then. This is fine.


Excellent post

How in dafuq can you exempt business from labor safety practices?These people are utter f*cking garbage.
 
krebshack
2023-02-07 4:32:58 PM  
The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence.
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Lumbar Puncture
2023-02-07 4:33:01 PM  

SomeAmerican: In an entirely new section, however, the bill would allow the Iowa Workforce Development and state Department of Education heads to make exceptions to any of the prohibited jobs for teens 14-17 "participating in [an] employer-administered, work-related program."

So... kids 14 to 17 can't work in prohibited jobs, unless the job is "employer administered" and "work related".

Ummm... what jobs aren't?


Can't just volunteer at the slaughterhouse for fun like we used to in the good old days.
 
gilgigamesh
2023-02-07 4:34:14 PM  

Hinged: Let the kids work if they want to and they have the free time.

What's wrong with that?


Are your kids doing anything right now?

My gutters are about 45 feet up and need a cleaning. Lord knows I'm not crazy enough to climb up there myself.

Tell them there's a shiny quarter in it for them, assuming they do a good job.
 
hlehmann
2023-02-07 4:35:32 PM  
Once again, all living Republicans are subhuman filth.
 
Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist
2023-02-07 4:36:17 PM  

hlehmann: Once again, all living Republicans are subhuman filth.


The dead ones are pieces of shiat, too.
 
Evil Mackerel
2023-02-07 4:37:31 PM  
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AmbassadorBooze
2023-02-07 4:38:07 PM  
Have the government give money to every Persxn from age 14 to 21.  Make it equal to the median income of the state they live in.  But if they work at all, they lose the income.  Then the overmasters have to hire old people.  Old people who are used to median income.

Problem solved.
 
Ophaelin
2023-02-07 4:38:53 PM  
In the 1970s I was 16 and landed an apprentice job in a full service butcher department at a mom and pop grocery store.  It was a union shop so I made a scale wage of $15/hour.  It was damned hard work with walk in meat lockers, sides of beef on meat hooks, giant slicers and band saws and sinks full of cleavers and sharp knives.  But it paid $15/hour almost forty years ago so there's that.
 
MarciusDecimus
2023-02-07 4:41:03 PM  
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groppet
2023-02-07 4:41:38 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: fiddlehead: Barricaded Gunman: Pocket Ninja: The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence.

This right here is simply amazing to me.

Ditto, holy shiat.

Thirded. Are businesses exempt from civil liability if an adult is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence according to current Iowa law?!


Not yet but I am sure they are working on it and trying to get them to legalize paying people in company script that can only be spent at the company store for inflated rates.
 
jst3p
2023-02-07 4:41:51 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: Pocket Ninja: The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence.

This right here is simply amazing to me.


Corporations are people. They mostly resemble rich white male people. We can't start holding rich white people responsible for the damage they cause now!
 
gochuck
2023-02-07 4:43:03 PM  
I don't see how a state law is going to exempt itself from the FLSA child hazardous orders... But then again, Calvinball.
 
TommyDeuce [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 4:44:04 PM  

gochuck: I don't see how a state law is going to exempt itself from the FLSA child hazardous orders... But then again, Calvinball.


Just have to shop he inevitable lawsuit to the right Judge.
 
jst3p
2023-02-07 4:44:40 PM  

TommyDeuce: gochuck: I don't see how a state law is going to exempt itself from the FLSA child hazardous orders... But then again, Calvinball.

Just have to shop he inevitable lawsuit to the right Judge.


Or eventually SCOTUS.
 
George Santos' taint
2023-02-07 4:45:14 PM  

hlehmann: Once again, all living Republicans are subhuman filth.


Even Arnold?
 
SomeAmerican
2023-02-07 4:45:24 PM  
They could probably save themselves a lot of time and effort by just passing a bill that says any resident of their state that is biologically under 18 is considered 18 for legal purposes.
 
kidgenius
2023-02-07 4:45:55 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: Pocket Ninja: The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence.

This right here is simply amazing to me.


Just like you can't sign a contract which removes some of your rights, im not sure how you can remove civil liabilities from a company which could be proved to be acting negligent.  It's not fathomable
 
jst3p
2023-02-07 4:46:51 PM  

George Santos' taint: hlehmann: Once again, all living Republicans are subhuman filth.

Even Arnold?


I am told by top Republicans that he is a RINO.
 
Chief Superintendent Lookout
2023-02-07 4:48:03 PM  

Pocket Ninja: The bill also maintains a list of jobs kids under 18 can't hold, such as working in slaughterhouses, meatpacking or rendering plants; mining; operating power-driven metal forming, punching or shearing machines; operating band or circular saws, guillotine shears or paper balers; or being involved in roofing operations or demolition work.

Oh, well that makes sense. At least they're not allowing...

In an entirely new section, however, the bill would allow the Iowa Workforce Development and state Department of Education heads to make exceptions to any of the prohibited jobs for teens 14-17 "participating in work-based learning or a school or employer-administered, work-related program."

Oh. Oh, I see. Well, at least exceptions have to be related to official training programs that can ensure responsibility on the part of the business/employer for anything that might...

The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence. A business also would be free of civil liability if a student is hurt because of the teen's negligence on the job - or is injured traveling to or from work.

Oh. No civil liability, huh? But surely there's got to be some sort of penalty if the business in question...

A company could face fines of up to $10,000 for violations under the bill...

Ah, there we go. I knew there had to be some teeth there to protect the children from overt...

...but the state's labor commissioner could reduce or waive the penalty.

Oh. Wow, OK. Gosh, I wonder who Iowa's labor commissioner is. Hopefully someone with a proven track record of really standing up for the safety of people in his state. I can't imagine...

Rod Roberts, the former Carroll state legislator who serves as Iowa's labor commissioner, says Iowa will not adhere to the Biden administration's vaccine mandate for employers with 100 or more people working for them. Bottom line: the state standards are strong enough, Roberts said.

Oh. OK, then. This is fine.


Children learn responsibility and a trade.  You namby pamby libs are never happy.
 
born_yesterday [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 4:48:45 PM  

kkinnison: The law will pass. And be waiting for the SCOTUS to remove the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 before it will take affect


This guy gets it
 
gilgigamesh
2023-02-07 4:49:02 PM  

Hinged: DarkSoulNoHope: fiddlehead: Barricaded Gunman: Pocket Ninja: The bill exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence.

This right here is simply amazing to me.

Ditto, holy shiat.

Thirded. Are businesses exempt from civil liability if an adult is sickened, injured or killed due to the company's negligence according to current Iowa law?!


Here is what it actually says:

4.A business that accepts a secondary student in a work-based learning program shall not be subject to civil liability for any claim for bodily injury to the student or sickness or death by accident of the student arising from the business's negligent act or omission during the student's participation in the work-based learning program at the business or work site.

5.This section shall not be construed to provide immunity for a student or business for civil liability arising from gross negligence or willful misconduct.


That seems pretty contradictory and the whole bill appears to be in the middle of an editing process anyway.

But go ahead and coninue with your rage.


It seems a lot less contradictory when you realize that negligence, gross negligence and willful misconduct are all different things, each with a very specific legal definition.
 
born_yesterday [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 4:49:43 PM  

MrSplifferton: It says 16-17 year olds can serve alcohol.  Will they also only be female and wear skimpy outfits?  Farking Republicans are so transparent with their grossness.


Not those peanuts...the ones at the bottom...
 
koder [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 4:52:09 PM  

Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: koder: If you never had a chance to find out how kiddie fingers tasted during The Jungle times, you're about to find out.

"You know where you are? You're in the jungle baby, you're gonna die!"
- Upton Sinclair, probably


How much you wanna bet that if they get away with this, they will brazenly coopt "Welcome to The Jungle" as a campaign song?
 
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