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(The Intercept)   Marines who took part in the Jan. 6 insurrection were awarded highly sensitive spy jobs afterwards. This is fine   (theintercept.com) divider line
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vudukungfu [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 12:35:15 PM  
Well, in a world where we have security protocols, you extract what to can from them, terminate them, and move up the ladder, continuing until you have aborted future issues.
A few dead spies can save millions of lives.
 
HotWingConspiracy
2023-02-07 1:51:49 PM  
People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL
 
labman [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 1:52:43 PM  
From TFA:  "At the time of the insurrection, the three men were friends and were all assigned to the Marine Corps Information Operations Center at Quantico, Virginia, about 30 miles south of Washington. The center is involved in psychological warfare training and development for the Marines, among other functions."

So we're they the test subjects?
 
DarkSoulNoHope
2023-02-07 1:55:15 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL


Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!
 
whidbey
2023-02-07 1:56:34 PM  
Kind of disturbing to consider that the Armed Forces would condone their behavior instead of punishing it.
 
Rapmaster2000 [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 1:56:36 PM  
I like to sit on my hand until it falls asleep and then masturbate.  I call it a spy job.
 
LL316
2023-02-07 1:56:38 PM  
What's the definition of a terrorist?
 
saturn badger [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 1:57:08 PM  
The reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.

Start with "all of the above" and go from there.
 
DarkSoulNoHope
2023-02-07 1:57:30 PM  
But after The Intercept independently discovered that all three Marines had been given new intelligence assignments following the insurrection, the Corps confirmed that they were all transferred to new roles after January 6, 2021, and provided information about their assignments at the time of the insurrection. Abate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.

"Good job almost overthrowing the US Government, we think you did a good enough job that we're promoting you! But next time make sure you overthrow the government, do that and we'll make you a colonel!"
 
Clash City Farker
2023-02-07 1:58:20 PM  
What did they know and when did they know it?
 
Michael J Faux
2023-02-07 1:58:33 PM  
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Dr. Bison
2023-02-07 1:58:46 PM  
What's more, the Pentagon's efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military.

Well, duh.
 
Fooshards
2023-02-07 1:59:06 PM  
This country needs to rip the bandaid off, and soon.  Taxonomy is important - LABEL THESE ACTS AS TERRORISM, HIGH TREASON.  No kiddie gloves.  Go after the leaders, the enablers, the bankrollers; and don't stop until the prisons are literally full.
 
AppleOptionEsc
2023-02-07 1:59:30 PM  

LL316: What's the definition of a terrorist?


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ZMugg [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 2:00:36 PM  

whidbey: Kind of disturbing to consider that the Armed Forces would condone their behavior instead of punishing it.


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Nothing new... sadly.
 
Dr Dreidel
2023-02-07 2:01:15 PM  

vudukungfu: Well, in a world where we have security protocols, you extract what to can from them, terminate them, and move up the ladder, continuing until you have aborted future issues.
A few dead spies can save millions of lives.


Yeah but now abortion is basically illegal, so we have to let spies and other ne'er do wells complete their terms before the state neglects them to death.

// how often do well?
// ne'er
 
sigdiamond2000
2023-02-07 2:01:19 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL

Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!


I like how you guys think giving up is some kind of strategy.
 
CarnySaur [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 2:01:39 PM  
The military is so woke now!
 
WithinReason
2023-02-07 2:02:07 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL


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PvtStash
2023-02-07 2:02:36 PM  
the only thing legit left under the sun is if you bring it to the table yourself.
 
Bith Set Me Up
2023-02-07 2:03:31 PM  
"Law enforcement is part of the problem. So empowering law enforcement is not the solution. Law enforcement already has the power to address violent crime. They're choosing not to. What Congress needs to do and what the new administration needs to do is get to the bottom of why they're choosing not to."

https://truthout.org/articles/empowering-law-enforcement-is-not-the-solution-says-former-fbi-agent/
 
sigdiamond2000
2023-02-07 2:03:59 PM  

PvtStash: the only thing legit left under the sun is if you bring it to the table yourself.


That sounds like too much work. I'd rather just set the table on fire.
 
Wessoman
2023-02-07 2:04:34 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL

Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!


Eeyores are wrong because something is going to happen, but the pollyannas are wrong because what's going to happen is not going to be the rule of law holding people accountable. No, what's going to happen is the US version of the Three Year's War and in the end a lot of fascists are gonna get it right in the neck.
 
whidbey
2023-02-07 2:04:56 PM  

ZMugg: whidbey: Kind of disturbing to consider that the Armed Forces would condone their behavior instead of punishing it.

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Nothing new... sadly.


Yeah but when TFG refused to concede, it seemed like the military was on our side, not his.

Why they would let someone on HIS side skate is kind of disturbing.
 
HotWingConspiracy
2023-02-07 2:05:12 PM  

sigdiamond2000: DarkSoulNoHope: HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL

Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!

I like how you guys think giving up is some kind of strategy.


You sound like you haven't given up, what have you done today to secure jail time for the leaders?
 
I know a guy
2023-02-07 2:05:23 PM  
What a shiathole country this is.
 
Fooshards
2023-02-07 2:06:51 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: "Law enforcement is part of the problem. So empowering law enforcement is not the solution. Law enforcement already has the power to address violent crime. They're choosing not to. What Congress needs to do and what the new administration needs to do is get to the bottom of why they're choosing not to."

https://truthout.org/articles/empowering-law-enforcement-is-not-the-solution-says-former-fbi-agent/


Hint:  Follow the funding to the source.
 
sigdiamond2000
2023-02-07 2:06:59 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: sigdiamond2000: DarkSoulNoHope: HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL

Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!

I like how you guys think giving up is some kind of strategy.

You sound like you haven't given up, what have you done today to secure jail time for the leaders?


Not run interference for them on the internet.
 
JimmyTheHutt
2023-02-07 2:07:17 PM  

whidbey: Kind of disturbing to consider that the Armed Forces would condone their behavior instead of punishing it.


It's almost like the US Military and Intelligence Agencies are staffed and led by pro-fascist authoritarians.

Kind of like law enforcement.
 
Night Train to Wakanda
2023-02-07 2:07:45 PM  
Jim Jordans committee doing its job.

fark that piece of shiat in his child rapIng enabling dick hole.
 
lectos
2023-02-07 2:08:02 PM  
Duh?

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Meatsim1
2023-02-07 2:10:22 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL

Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!


I reject us being called eeyore's when we've been right this entire time. Y'all who think Trump and high level cronies are going to face justice for 1/6 are the one's hoping every indication about what's going (or not going) to happen to those people is wrong.

"Trust the process" is basically "hope for the best" and you know what they say about shiat and hope
 
JimmyTheHutt
2023-02-07 2:11:12 PM  

Wessoman: DarkSoulNoHope: HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL

Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!

Eeyores are wrong because something is going to happen, but the pollyannas are wrong because what's going to happen is not going to be the rule of law holding people accountable. No, what's going to happen is the US version of the Three Year's War and in the end a lot of fascists are gonna get it right in the neck.


Interesting analogy.  I don't think it's going go as well as you do.  I think the results are going to be closer to the Spanish Civil War, only with a nation far more interested in expanding both North and South.
 
HotWingConspiracy
2023-02-07 2:11:13 PM  

sigdiamond2000: HotWingConspiracy: sigdiamond2000: DarkSoulNoHope: HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL

Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!

I like how you guys think giving up is some kind of strategy.

You sound like you haven't given up, what have you done today to secure jail time for the leaders?

Not run interference for them on the internet.


Still desperately holding on this this canard, eh?

You've done nothing, you will do nothing.
 
DarkSoulNoHope
2023-02-07 2:11:36 PM  

sigdiamond2000: HotWingConspiracy: sigdiamond2000: DarkSoulNoHope: HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL

Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!

I like how you guys think giving up is some kind of strategy.

You sound like you haven't given up, what have you done today to secure jail time for the leaders?

Not run interference for them on the internet.


You think pointing out the problem of fascists not being held accountable for their crimes is running interference for those fascists?! You know, no matter what we type in here, the people who carry the handcuffs and judge them guilty and put them in jail, aren't impeded from doing their jobs, they just need to have the willingness to do their jobs.
 
HotWingConspiracy
2023-02-07 2:13:35 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: sigdiamond2000: HotWingConspiracy: sigdiamond2000: DarkSoulNoHope: HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL

Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!

I like how you guys think giving up is some kind of strategy.

You sound like you haven't given up, what have you done today to secure jail time for the leaders?

Not run interference for them on the internet.

You think pointing out the problem of fascists not being held accountable for their crimes is running interference for those fascists?! You know, no matter what we type in here, the people who carry the handcuffs and judge them guilty and put them in jail, aren't impeded from doing their jobs, they just need to have the willingness to do their jobs.


Can't you see that we're the true opinion shapers here? People hang on our every word. I needed a follow up act after I personally denied Hillary Clinton the presidency by simply posting on fark dot com.
 
LL316
2023-02-07 2:13:56 PM  

Meatsim1: DarkSoulNoHope: HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL

Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!

I reject us being called eeyore's when we've been right this entire time. Y'all who think Trump and high level cronies are going to face justice for 1/6 are the one's hoping every indication about what's going (or not going) to happen to those people is wrong.

"Trust the process" is basically "hope for the best" and you know what they say about shiat and hope


Not one single person thought anyone at the top would see justice by this point. Every reasonable person knew/knows that it will take years before they get to that level. So congrats, you're prediction was the exact same thing as mine up till this point.
 
RasIanI
2023-02-07 2:14:10 PM  

whidbey: ZMugg: whidbey: Kind of disturbing to consider that the Armed Forces would condone their behavior instead of punishing it.

[Fark user image 600x477]
Nothing new... sadly.

Yeah but when TFG refused to concede, it seemed like the military was on our side, not his.

Why they would let someone on HIS side skate is kind of disturbing.


Well, apparently they've been monitoring him for about a year, and now his security clearance has come up for renewal. So now he's being asked questions. Idk what happens from here, but my guess is that there might be issues with that security clearance on top of that federal indictment.
 
whither_apophis [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 2:14:11 PM  

whidbey: Kind of disturbing to consider that the Armed Forces would condone their behavior instead of punishing it.


Look up the history of Mexican cartels and MS-13. The US' fingerprints are all
over them
 
foo monkey
2023-02-07 2:14:12 PM  
They weren't charged until last month, long after they were transferred to the sensitive positions. Article states all three had training and experience in that area, so they likely already had clearances and jobs in intelligence.  The outrage here should be that it took two years to hold them accountable, not some made-up shiat that they were knowingly put into sensitive positions while having pending felony charges.
 
DarkSoulNoHope
2023-02-07 2:15:28 PM  

Meatsim1: DarkSoulNoHope: HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL

Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!

I reject us being called eeyore's when we've been right this entire time. Y'all who think Trump and high level cronies are going to face justice for 1/6 are the one's hoping every indication about what's going (or not going) to happen to those people is wrong.

"Trust the process" is basically "hope for the best" and you know what they say about shiat and hope


Your sarcasm detector is broken.
 
DarkSoulNoHope
2023-02-07 2:17:56 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Meatsim1: DarkSoulNoHope: HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL

Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!

I reject us being called eeyore's when we've been right this entire time. Y'all who think Trump and high level cronies are going to face justice for 1/6 are the one's hoping every indication about what's going (or not going) to happen to those people is wrong.

"Trust the process" is basically "hope for the best" and you know what they say about shiat and hope

Your sarcasm detector is broken.


Well, to be exact, the sarcastic part was using the term Eeyore, though if that needs to be spelled out, the joke has failed.
 
sinner4ever
2023-02-07 2:18:31 PM  

foo monkey: They weren't charged until last month, long after they were transferred to the sensitive positions. Article states all three had training and experience in that area, so they likely already had clearances and jobs in intelligence.  The outrage here should be that it took two years to hold them accountable, not some made-up shiat that they were knowingly put into sensitive positions while having pending felony charges.


They were kept and moved around through different sensitive positions after admitting to trying to overthrow the government to their superiors.
This article isn't an indictment on them, it is an indictment on the superiors who thought trying to overthrow the government was fine.
 
freetomato [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 2:19:43 PM  
Why on earth are these seditious pieces of trump still in uniform? One admits he was there during his security clearance interview, FFS.

"Among the UCMJ's so-called "punitive articles" is the seemingly pertinent offense of sedition. According to Article 94(a)(2), anyone subject to the UCMJ who, "with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against the authority is guilty of sedition."
 
Wessoman
2023-02-07 2:25:34 PM  

JimmyTheHutt: Wessoman: DarkSoulNoHope: HotWingConspiracy: People still think the leaders are going to jail LOL

Here's another Eeyore looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion about what it means about insurrection convictions!

Eeyores are wrong because something is going to happen, but the pollyannas are wrong because what's going to happen is not going to be the rule of law holding people accountable. No, what's going to happen is the US version of the Three Year's War and in the end a lot of fascists are gonna get it right in the neck.

Interesting analogy.  I don't think it's going go as well as you do.  I think the results are going to be closer to the Spanish Civil War, only with a nation far more interested in expanding both North and South.


Well I use the Three Years War analogy because unlike the US civil war, the Three Years war was a genuine battle between liberal and conservative ideas on the "social direction" of Mexico, with the Liberals dominating the coasts and the conservatives taking vast rural areas. And yes, the conservative strategy hinged largely on foreign support, which seems about right.

Just like history shows us, this consistent double standard for conservative anti-government forces will only embolden them and lead to war. And the conservatives will lose- Sure they have "God" on their side and a lot of monied interests, they simply don't have the numbers among the populace or enough leaders in the military. But just like the three years war, our economy will be completely wrecked.
 
austerity101
2023-02-07 2:26:51 PM  
Hey, did you know the government, especially the military, is run by a bunch of fascists and people who are A-OK with fascism? Because it is.
 
Alebak
2023-02-07 2:28:20 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: "Law enforcement is part of the problem. So empowering law enforcement is not the solution. Law enforcement already has the power to address violent crime. They're choosing not to. What Congress needs to do and what the new administration needs to do is get to the bottom of why they're choosing not to."

https://truthout.org/articles/empowering-law-enforcement-is-not-the-solution-says-former-fbi-agent/


This is the crux of the whole issue, and the particularly the scary part to me.

Parts of the government, from individual officials, to whole alphabet agencies, are pretty openly choosing a side, and the response that we can see is almost nonexistent. Like on a smaller scale the Capitol police openly had dudes wishing the Jan 6th attack had worked, and biatched out their own who was awarded a medal for getting hurt trying to stop it. On the wider scale ICE is basically a hostile goon squad with drones that we have the privilege of paying for who have basically already gone rogue when anyone who isn't a Republican is in charge.

It doesn't seem like there's a plan for this, which seems weird because there's a lot of people in the government who will be in the crosshairs at this rate and have good reason to not let shiat go crazy.
 
Blathering Idjut
2023-02-07 2:30:17 PM  
Why aren't these farkers swinging from a gallows?
 
The Reverend Sam Hill [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 2:34:40 PM  
But...but...but...CHINESE BALLOON! Look, guys, CHINESE BALLOON! Let's go Brandon!
 
kmgenesis23
2023-02-07 2:37:17 PM  
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