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(Law and Crime)   Mexican soap opera star sentenced to five years in prison for fatally punching a man during a road rage incident in Miami. Unclear if the sentence will be served by him or his long lost identical twin brother who's recently awaken from a coma   (lawandcrime.com) divider line
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pastramithemosterotic
2023-02-07 12:36:43 PM  
it bet it was hermano...
 
Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 12:37:25 PM  
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SPARC Pile [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 12:39:33 PM  
That would be the least weird thing in a telenovela.

Telenovelas Are Hell: Amigas Y Rivales
Youtube -LCVmyElYuo
 
BunchaRubes
2023-02-07 12:40:40 PM  
Bravo, subby, great headline.  A+++, would laugh again.
 
Red Shirt Blues
2023-02-07 12:42:58 PM  
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Dadoody
2023-02-07 12:43:04 PM  
When will these idiots learn?

Punching someone in Florida will get you prison for years.

Shooting warning shots in Florida will get you 20 years MINIMUM. 

If you're going to attack someone in Florida, you need to shoot to kill in order to be able to legally defend yourself. 

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LordOfThePings [OhFark]
2023-02-07 12:43:12 PM  
Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique?
 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 12:44:20 PM  
Cue overly dramatic organ music.
 
Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 12:44:43 PM  
When I heard the news, I was all like...
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LewDux [OhFark]
2023-02-07 12:47:07 PM  
Looks more like accident
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qlenfg
2023-02-07 12:47:30 PM  
Great description, subby! +1, would buy again.
 
Last Man on Earth
2023-02-07 12:50:34 PM  
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Jim_Tressel's_O-Face
2023-02-07 12:50:43 PM  

LewDux: Looks more like accident
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That was more choreographed than a Young Bucks match.
 
New Rising Sun
2023-02-07 12:52:19 PM  
Cualquier razón para publicar:

Que Hora Es? Part 1
Youtube 4cKGyOE_jOI
 
genner
2023-02-07 12:54:56 PM  
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Fano
2023-02-07 12:56:01 PM  
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HighlanderRPI
2023-02-07 12:56:32 PM  
¿QUUUUUUUUE?

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austerity101
2023-02-07 12:57:04 PM  
Fatally punching a man sounds like you punch them and they die from the punch. He died from hitting his head on the pavent after being punched.  The punch caused his death, but the punch itself was not fatal.
 
hardinparamedic [OhFark]
2023-02-07 12:57:31 PM  
"¡Ay, ay, ay, no es bueno!"

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BrerRobot
2023-02-07 12:57:58 PM  
"He was such a joyful person, very caring to everyone," the victim's son Juan Ricardo Hernandez Jr. said, translated from Spanish, according to NBC Miami. "A beautiful person, there are no words to describe who my father was."

OK so not joyful or caring or beautiful.
 
tmyk [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 12:59:43 PM  
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sleze
2023-02-07 1:02:25 PM  
I always thought it was Jorge...

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The Exit Stencilist
2023-02-07 1:07:28 PM  
The hunt for the real killer
GOB Tracks Down "Hermano" | Arrested Development
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Aviron [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 1:11:04 PM  

austerity101: Fatally punching a man sounds like you punch them and they die from the punch. He died from hitting his head on the pavent after being punched.  The punch caused his death, but the punch itself was not fatal.


That is kinda what it sounds like, but not. When one performs an action? You're also responsible for the reaction(or post-action).
The punch was not supposed to be fatal, but it directly caused the fall and death. Hence the "Involuntary Manslaughter". That what it was. So the punch..."technically", did kill him. Obviously not on purpose, but, he kill him.
Be curious to know more about the precursor though. (No not really. Don't care that much).
 
Rapmaster2000 [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 1:12:58 PM  
Nothing good ever comes out of road rage.  The best case scenario is you get yourself all worked up and nothing happens.  Much more common scenarios are you crash your car, get beat up, get shot, or get arrested.
 
Rattrap007
2023-02-07 1:16:30 PM  
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Are we sure it was.. Chad?

Lights, Camera.. Homicido.
 
Geotpf
2023-02-07 1:18:22 PM  

austerity101: Fatally punching a man sounds like you punch them and they die from the punch. He died from hitting his head on the pavent after being punched.  The punch caused his death, but the punch itself was not fatal.


That is quite a pedantic argument.
 
ifky
2023-02-07 1:18:29 PM  
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stringbad [BareFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 1:21:31 PM  
1. Love me a good soap, so headline so good.
2. I have a 6'4'' friend who got stopped by a road rager. He unfolded himself from the smallish car he was driving when confronted, and the rager calmed down quickly.
3. He keeps telling me I have SMS (Small Man Syndrome). I'm nearly over it :) 5'7''
 
proteus_b
2023-02-07 1:22:22 PM  
Surprising that this guy went to jail for this in Florida. Some asshole road rages at him, he defends himself, he ends up in prison for five years. Isn't this what "Stand your Ground" laws were supposed to prevent? Note that the "victim" had been in a physical fight just two hours before he started the one which got him killed, a fact which was prevented from being presented at trial.
 
misanthropicsob [OhFark]
2023-02-07 1:29:26 PM  

proteus_b: Surprising that this guy went to jail for this in Florida. Some asshole road rages at him, he defends himself, he ends up in prison for five years. Isn't this what "Stand your Ground" laws were supposed to prevent? Note that the "victim" had been in a physical fight just two hours before he started the one which got him killed, a fact which was prevented from being presented at trial.


He was Mexican in Florida.
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2023-02-07 1:34:46 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Nothing good ever comes out of road rage.


Catatonia - Road Rage (Official Music Video)
Youtube U_bL0EqlDEk
 
austerity101
2023-02-07 1:35:05 PM  

Aviron: austerity101: Fatally punching a man sounds like you punch them and they die from the punch. He died from hitting his head on the pavent after being punched.  The punch caused his death, but the punch itself was not fatal.

That is kinda what it sounds like, but not. When one performs an action? You're also responsible for the reaction(or post-action).
The punch was not supposed to be fatal, but it directly caused the fall and death. Hence the "Involuntary Manslaughter". That what it was. So the punch..."technically", did kill him. Obviously not on purpose, but, he kill him.
Be curious to know more about the precursor though. (No not really. Don't care that much).


Oh, I never said he wasn't responsible. Just that to me "fatal punch" suggests that the punch, directly, caused death.

If you said someone was fatally shot, but what happened is that they were shot in the shoulder and then fell off a building and plummeted to their death, it seems like a weird way of phrasing it, even if the shooter is still culpable for their death (and they are).
 
misanthropicsob [OhFark]
2023-02-07 1:35:42 PM  

LewDux: Rapmaster2000: Nothing good ever comes out of road rage.

[YouTube video: Catatonia - Road Rage (Official Music Video)]


Is this meant to be a rebuttal?
 
morg
2023-02-07 1:35:49 PM  

LewDux: Looks more like accident
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That's up there with the Turkish actor getting shot gif.
 
dryknife
2023-02-07 1:37:58 PM  
Actually, the victim, Juan is the one that has a twin brother, Jamal.
They say if you've seen Juan, you've seen Jamal
 
The Exit Stencilist
2023-02-07 1:39:00 PM  

Rattrap007: [Fark user image image 425x325]
Are we sure it was.. Chad?

Lights, Camera.. Homicido.


That's not how you hold a martini!
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2023-02-07 1:41:45 PM  

misanthropicsob: LewDux: Rapmaster2000: Nothing good ever comes out of road rage.

[YouTube video: Catatonia - Road Rage (Official Music Video)]

Is this meant to be a rebuttal?


yes, lovely R's
 
edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 1:43:05 PM  
Punching out old guy: that's minus 25 points right off.
 
El_Dan
2023-02-07 1:46:47 PM  

proteus_b: Surprising that this guy went to jail for this in Florida. Some asshole road rages at him, he defends himself, he ends up in prison for five years. Isn't this what "Stand your Ground" laws were supposed to prevent? Note that the "victim" had been in a physical fight just two hours before he started the one which got him killed, a fact which was prevented from being presented at trial.


Appears the key fact is that he punched the guy when he was walking away.
 
BunchaRubes
2023-02-07 1:51:54 PM  

austerity101: Fatally punching a man sounds like you punch them and they die from the punch. He died from hitting his head on the pavent after being punched.  The punch caused his death, but the punch itself was not fatal.


Okay, so guns don't kill people.
 
proteus_b
2023-02-07 1:55:55 PM  

misanthropicsob: proteus_b: Surprising that this guy went to jail for this in Florida. Some asshole road rages at him, he defends himself, he ends up in prison for five years. Isn't this what "Stand your Ground" laws were supposed to prevent? Note that the "victim" had been in a physical fight just two hours before he started the one which got him killed, a fact which was prevented from being presented at trial.

He was Mexican in Florida.


Wasn't the original ground-stander also?

And if he punched the guy while walking away, sure it's preferable to not do that. But I'm also not outraged about him only serving five years about it either. The other guy could have gotten back in his car. He could have refrained from getting out of his car and hitting the other guy's car and threatening his family. It sounds like Mr. Lyle is remorseful about the death. It doesn't sound like the family of Mr. Hernandez has acknowledged that the main reason that Mr. Hernandez was killed is because he was a violent person who went around threatening the public until someone finally put him in his place.
 
Incog_Neeto
2023-02-07 2:07:18 PM  
5 years for killing a guy cause you were mad about their driving.   He's not even white, but I guess exceptions are made for rich minorities.
 
chitownmike
2023-02-07 2:10:48 PM  

austerity101: Fatally punching a man sounds like you punch them and they die from the punch. He died from hitting his head on the pavent after being punched.  The punch caused his death, but the punch itself was not fatal.


That's like saying someone wasn't killed in a car accident they were simply impaled on a steering column
 
elgrancerdo
2023-02-07 2:14:41 PM  
Five long years.  What is the wife going to do during that time?

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Ana Araujo will be visiting her stomping grounds:
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Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 3:18:21 PM  

Geotpf: austerity101: Fatally punching a man sounds like you punch them and they die from the punch. He died from hitting his head on the pavent after being punched.  The punch caused his death, but the punch itself was not fatal.

That is quite a pedantic argument.


It's a valid legal argument. And also a valid bar question. At issue is the puncher's state of mind when he threw the punch. If you want to get really pedantic, but also really understand the issue, was the guy intending to "kill" the person, did he not care if the person died or not, was he defending himself in a flurry of punches, or was it just a friendly/hostile mutual combat situation like in any bar fight anywhere?

Now in this case, chasing down an old man and sucker-punching him kind of destroys any argument that this was a "self-defense" or "mutual combat" situation, but there's room there for a good defense attorney to argue lack of intent to kill or harm (as clearly happened).
 
SpectroBoy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 3:23:33 PM  

BunchaRubes: austerity101: Fatally punching a man sounds like you punch them and they die from the punch. He died from hitting his head on the pavent after being punched.  The punch caused his death, but the punch itself was not fatal.

Okay, so guns don't kill people.



Falling out of a 10th story windows doesn't kill you either.

Now we are all smrt
 
misanthropicsob [OhFark]
2023-02-07 3:29:10 PM  

proteus_b: misanthropicsob: proteus_b: Surprising that this guy went to jail for this in Florida. Some asshole road rages at him, he defends himself, he ends up in prison for five years. Isn't this what "Stand your Ground" laws were supposed to prevent? Note that the "victim" had been in a physical fight just two hours before he started the one which got him killed, a fact which was prevented from being presented at trial.

He was Mexican in Florida.

Wasn't the original ground-stander also?


Angry Grandpa was Cuban.
 
Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 3:47:13 PM  

dryknife: Actually, the victim, Juan is the one that has a twin brother, Jamal.
They say if you've seen Juan, you've seen Jamal


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LOLITROLU
2023-02-07 3:48:35 PM  

SpectroBoy: BunchaRubes: austerity101: Fatally punching a man sounds like you punch them and they die from the punch. He died from hitting his head on the pavent after being punched.  The punch caused his death, but the punch itself was not fatal.

Okay, so guns don't kill people.


Falling out of a 10th story windows doesn't kill you either.

Now we are all smrt


Throwing. Not falling.
Throwing someone out of a 10th story window doesn't kill them.  The sidewalk does that.

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