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(NBC News)   "Centrist" Republicans act like far right lunatic Republicans. Maybe the author thinks "centrist' refers to geography   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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abb3w [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 10:32:53 AM  
Centrist, measured between what extremes, on what scale?
 
sinner4ever
2023-02-07 11:06:39 AM  
MSNBC and all the other corporate media organizations call McCarthy moderate now.
 
Blathering Idjut
2023-02-07 11:07:12 AM  
"I think it's DOA," Bacon told reporters in the Capitol. "Because the president's got to make some compromises with Republicans. For him to say my way or the highway - no way."

No, he really doesn't.  Pass a clean debt extension then sit down and shut up republicans.
 
HotWingConspiracy
2023-02-07 11:09:19 AM  
Ultraconservative Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., said Republicans are crafting a specific spending-cut plan that can get 218 votes and could land in the next few weeks.

LOL
 
feltrider [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 11:10:08 AM  
A lot of people fail to understand Republicans motivations during the hostage negotiations around the debt ceiling: they want to shoot the hostage.

Republicans want the federal government to fail. The only thing that prevents them from pursuing it actively is that while their voters support Republican policy positions, the fallout would likely turn them against the party.

So we're in a game where they want to shoot the hostage, and make it look like Democrats fault.
 
Another Government Employee
2023-02-07 11:10:21 AM  
That is a chess move, not an ideological one.
 
hobnail
2023-02-07 11:10:47 AM  
Centerist.

Pet peeve.
 
fiddlehead
2023-02-07 11:11:05 AM  
"I think it's DOA," Bacon told reporters in the Capitol. "Because the president's got to make some compromises with Republicans. For him to say my way or the highway - no way."

No. Pay your farking debts.
 
anuran
2023-02-07 11:11:08 AM  

abb3w: Centrist, measured between what extremes, on what scale?


Nonononono! Fark Centrists have assured me that the truth is always found in the Center. If Republican Centrists are actual fascists, the Golden Center has to be somewhere between Reagan Democrats and Hitler. Anything else would be divisive.
 
sinner4ever
2023-02-07 11:11:11 AM  

Blathering Idjut: "I think it's DOA," Bacon told reporters in the Capitol. "Because the president's got to make some compromises with Republicans. For him to say my way or the highway - no way."

No, he really doesn't.  Pass a clean debt extension then sit down and shut up republicans.


In Pa. we have had a Republican majority and a Democratic Governor. The Republicans came out and said that any tax increases were off the table. Wolf would never tell them that increasing taxes on the working class was off the table so that is all we got.

It is always the wages slaves that need to give in to the hostage takers.
 
Smelly Pirate Hooker
2023-02-07 11:11:27 AM  
ALL Republicans act and sound like lunatics. Many of them actually ARE lunatics.
 
TofuTheAlmighty [BareFark]
2023-02-07 11:13:30 AM  
Centrist Republican is an oxymoron.
 
Aar1012 [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 11:15:08 AM  
Centrist Republicans?
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astroman05
2023-02-07 11:15:30 AM  
"I think it's DOA," Bacon told reporters in the Capitol. "Because the president's speaker's got to make some compromises with Republicans Democrats. For him to say my way or the highway - no way."

Imagine if this was the quote and the stated position.  Would any Republican take this seriously and change the way they do things?

If not, why should the president or any Democrat seriously consider this as a reasonable position?
 
wademh
2023-02-07 11:15:33 AM  
Just a thought.
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Bag of Hammers
2023-02-07 11:15:39 AM  
How dare the president not rescue us from the stupid, avoidable corner we've backed ourselves into!
 
austerity101 [BareFark]
2023-02-07 11:16:19 AM  
Sure sounds like being a centrist, no matter the letter after your name, is a garbage position that makes you a garbage person.
 
Karma Chameleon
2023-02-07 11:16:21 AM  
Democrats are acting like far right lunatic Republicans?
 
special20 [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 11:17:11 AM  
No matter the degree of their Republicanism, they've been the worst thing that happened to America for the last 60 years.
 
Aar1012 [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 11:17:18 AM  

astroman05: "I think it's DOA," Bacon told reporters in the Capitol. "Because the president's speaker's got to make some compromises with Republicans Democrats. For him to say my way or the highway - no way."

Imagine if this was the quote and the stated position.  Would any Republican take this seriously and change the way they do things?

If not, why should the president or any Democrat seriously consider this as a reasonable position?


Because the GOP things their majority was the result of divine intervention and that to go against them is to go against their Orange God?
 
mojo_the_helper_monkey
2023-02-07 11:17:41 AM  

feltrider: A lot of people fail to understand Republicans motivations during the hostage negotiations around the debt ceiling: they want to shoot the hostage.

Republicans want the federal government to fail. The only thing that prevents them from pursuing it actively is that while their voters support Republican policy positions, the fallout would likely turn them against the party.

So we're in a game where they want to shoot the hostage, and make it look like Democrats fault.


They really don't though.  A default would hurt their donors a lot, along with the personal fortunes of a lot of GQP members of Congress.

They're using Nixon's Madman Theory to try and convince the Dems and our shiatty political media that they would totally kill the hostage, because that is the only way they get the concessions they want.

Obama fell for it in 2011, but the Dems learned their lesson after that, and didn't take the GQP's threats seriously in 2013 or 2015.  The GQP eventually caved because they were never "willing to kill the hostage."

Our shiatty political media never learned this, though.  Or, more likely, they decided to forget what happened in 2013 and 2015 because months of breathless coverage of a possible default drives more clicks than just spending one or two afternoons calling out the GQP's bullshiat and moving on.
 
JimmyTheHutt
2023-02-07 11:19:37 AM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: ALL Republicans act and sound like lunatics. Many of them actually ARE lunatics.


All Republicans are fascists and terrorists.  All of them.  Every single elected official.  Every single pundit.  Every single Republican voter.
 
RasIanI
2023-02-07 11:19:40 AM  
"Because the president's got to make some compromises with Republicans. For him to say my way or the highway - no way."

YOU'RE the one in charge of the House and its agenda!
 
NuclearPenguins [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 11:20:32 AM  
Somehow we all knew this thread would attract the Fark Progressive Brain Trust™
 
cloverock70
2023-02-07 11:21:18 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Somehow we all knew this thread would attract the Fark Progressive Brain Trust™


What's updog?
 
oyster_popsicles
2023-02-07 11:21:36 AM  

Karma Chameleon: Democrats are acting like far right lunatic Republicans?


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mistahtom
2023-02-07 11:22:24 AM  
Everyone is a centrist if they're deluded enough.
 
NutWrench
2023-02-07 11:22:56 AM  
Republicans and Democrats have been moving steadily to the right for the last 40 years. So now, the Democrats have moved into the middle and the Republicans have moved all the way into an insane asylum.

Republicans want you to believe that Obama and Biden are "socialists." They're not even liberal. They're both boring, middle-of-the-road corporatists. We haven't had an actual progressive president since Jimmy Carter and that was 50 years ago.
 
Nana's Vibrator
2023-02-07 11:22:59 AM  
This is where the 20 holdouts seems staged.  You had 200 Republicans on his side the whole time but nothing is working with them.  The only actionable crap you hear is from the far right dipsh*ts.  They're going to continue to hold McCarthy pretend hostage for debt resolution and you will end up with a worse country because of them.  Again.
 
misanthropicsob [OhFark]
2023-02-07 11:24:26 AM  
Centrists is far right lunacy. See also: Joe Manchin, Kyrsten Sinema, Liz Cheney, Susan Collins, etc.

The now labeled far right lunatics have fallen off the edge of sanity.
 
houginator
2023-02-07 11:26:10 AM  

mojo_the_helper_monkey: feltrider: A lot of people fail to understand Republicans motivations during the hostage negotiations around the debt ceiling: they want to shoot the hostage.

Republicans want the federal government to fail. The only thing that prevents them from pursuing it actively is that while their voters support Republican policy positions, the fallout would likely turn them against the party.

So we're in a game where they want to shoot the hostage, and make it look like Democrats fault.

They really don't though.  A default would hurt their donors a lot, along with the personal fortunes of a lot of GQP members of Congress.

They're using Nixon's Madman Theory to try and convince the Dems and our shiatty political media that they would totally kill the hostage, because that is the only way they get the concessions they want.

Obama fell for it in 2011, but the Dems learned their lesson after that, and didn't take the GQP's threats seriously in 2013 or 2015.  The GQP eventually caved because they were never "willing to kill the hostage."

Our shiatty political media never learned this, though.  Or, more likely, they decided to forget what happened in 2013 and 2015 because months of breathless coverage of a possible default drives more clicks than just spending one or two afternoons calling out the GQP's bullshiat and moving on.


This is the same GOP that tried to provoke a constitutional crisis and overthrow our government to keep Trump in office, even if it meant inciting an armed mob to possibly kill them.  I no longer doubt that the vast majority of them are willing to kill the hostage, but the jury is still out on whether or not they are all willing to drink the Kool-Aid.
 
special20 [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 11:28:36 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: This is where the 20 holdouts seems staged.  You had 200 Republicans on his side the whole time but nothing is working with them.  The only actionable crap you hear is from the far right dipsh*ts.  They're going to continue to hold McCarthy pretend hostage for debt resolution and you will end up with a worse country because of them.  Again.


It's hilarious as well as glaringly obvious that some of those "independent" voters are seeing that the GQP under Qevin is doing NOTHING to help working Americans. I hope this is reflected in 2024 by another red drip.
 
RasIanI
2023-02-07 11:31:06 AM  

NutWrench: Republicans and Democrats have been moving steadily to the right for the last 40 years. So now, the Democrats have moved into the middle and the Republicans have moved all the way into an insane asylum.

Republicans want you to believe that Obama and Biden are "socialists." They're not even liberal. They're both boring, middle-of-the-road corporatists. We haven't had an actual progressive president since Jimmy Carter and that was 50 years ago.


Someone did an academic analysis of Obama's presidency on a strictly ideological basis, based on his actual actions in office, and it aligned neatly with Ronald Reagan.

Obama was no socialist.
 
sinner4ever
2023-02-07 11:32:45 AM  

RasIanI: NutWrench: Republicans and Democrats have been moving steadily to the right for the last 40 years. So now, the Democrats have moved into the middle and the Republicans have moved all the way into an insane asylum.

Republicans want you to believe that Obama and Biden are "socialists." They're not even liberal. They're both boring, middle-of-the-road corporatists. We haven't had an actual progressive president since Jimmy Carter and that was 50 years ago.

Someone did an academic analysis of Obama's presidency on a strictly ideological basis, based on his actual actions in office, and it aligned neatly with Ronald Reagan.

Obama was no socialist.


He himself said that he would have been a Republican in the 80's.
 
severedtoe
2023-02-07 11:33:06 AM  
the Nihilist growing inside me is thinking, the use of unfettered, unlimited cash in our political system, combined with willful deception by too many bad actors in the media, have made the us ungovernable.  its only a matter of time before we collapse.
 
Shaggy_C
2023-02-07 11:33:14 AM  
Centrist Republicans: Biden should negotiate with us in good faith on key areas we can agree to cut so that we can pass this as a bipartisan bill.

Far Right Republicans: We demand to slash and burn the entire United States budget except for the military.

There is some nuance there, should you choose to see it.
 
Aquapope
2023-02-07 11:34:03 AM  
No, Don Bacon (R - Tantrum) is not ruling out a small group of GOP acting reasonably and passing a clean Bill.  He's ruling out him being in that group and warning all the other GOP members to fall in line or they're in for a world of shiat.  6 of his colleagues is all it takes.
 
Here Comes Everybody
2023-02-07 11:34:29 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Ultraconservative Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., said Republicans are crafting a specific spending-cut plan that can get 218 votes and could land in the next few weeks.

LOL


Will it be accompanied by the Republican Health Care Plan That's Better Than Obamacare? Only been waiting 13 years for that one.
 
King Something [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 11:35:16 AM  
A "centrist" Republican is one who hasn't openly called for trans people to be Final Solution'd.
 
The Lone Gunman
2023-02-07 11:35:54 AM  
Centrist Republican == anti-abortion, pro-gun, pro-tax cuts, anti-LGBTQ+, pro-abstinence only education, "states rights," Ivy League educated but quizzically anti-college and laughed about trafficking Latinos to blue states BUT...and this is crucial...once said that Trump really should be nicer.
 
moothemagiccow
2023-02-07 11:37:23 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Somehow we all knew this thread would attract the Fark Progressive Brain Trust™


It's like we hate Republicans more than you do
 
Guntram Shatterhand [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 11:37:46 AM  
That's nice.  So when are your donors going to show up and speak to you very slowly with small words and you'll back down again?
 
Murkanen
2023-02-07 11:37:58 AM  

feltrider: A lot of people fail to understand Republicans motivations during the hostage negotiations around the debt ceiling: they want to shoot the hostage.

Republicans want the federal government to fail. The only thing that prevents them from pursuing it actively is that while their voters support Republican policy positions, the fallout would likely turn them against the party.

So we're in a game where they want to shoot the hostage, and make it look like Democrats fault.


The debt ceiling is unconstitutional anyway.  The Federal government is required to pay its debts, so the only thing foot stomping by the Republicans does is speed up the dollar's demise as the global reserve currency.  Countries generally want that to be something stable, and the US is increasingly unstable as years go on.
 
moothemagiccow
2023-02-07 11:39:58 AM  

Here Comes Everybody: HotWingConspiracy: Ultraconservative Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., said Republicans are crafting a specific spending-cut plan that can get 218 votes and could land in the next few weeks.

LOL

Will it be accompanied by the Republican Health Care Plan That's Better Than Obamacare? Only been waiting 13 years for that one.


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Phaedrus the Vague [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 11:40:06 AM  
Ultraconservative Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., said [...]
"We're gonna get specific. We're just working through it. Gotta get 218 votes," he said. "It's gonna be on paper."

Gonna, gotta, Gotti.
Vagueness, not specifics, are the GQP's  go-to. Their specific agenda is unpopular, full-stop.
That's why they did that ridiculous Sophie's Choice BS last month, trying to force Democrats to choose the budget hostages to shoot.

I don't see 218 of them agreeing to anything reasonable.
Maybe when the markets plummet they will wise up. I hope.
 
cocozilla
2023-02-07 11:40:47 AM  
They love calling these right-wing loons "centrists".... Like they always call the most lunatic Fringe of Republicans "firebrands"


Corporate media, bunch of spineless failures
 
cocozilla
2023-02-07 11:42:59 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Somehow we all knew this thread would attract the Fark Progressive Brain Trust™


Somehow we knew this thread would attract the centrist apologists...
 
sinner4ever
2023-02-07 11:43:50 AM  

cocozilla: They love calling these right-wing loons "centrists".... Like they always call the most lunatic Fringe of Republicans "firebrands"


Corporate media, bunch of spineless failures


That is the system. The billionaires give billions to the candidates for the election that is mandated to be spent on media,owned by billionaires.It is a circle of corruption.
 
asmodeus224
2023-02-07 11:44:20 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Ultraconservative Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., said Republicans are crafting a specific spending-cut plan that can get 218 votes and could land in the next few weeks.

LOL


Well for the GOP it is still infrastructure week, sooooooo
 
DarwiOdrade [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 11:44:22 AM  
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