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(Slate)   Problem: states' rights includes states protecting abortion access. The lunatic right's solution: have a single openly partisan activist judge summarily declare the pill illegal nationwide   (slate.com) divider line
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fatassbastard [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 12:15:05 AM  
Oh GAWD I hope they do this!! The blue wave in 2024 would be historically epic.
 
studebaker hoch
2023-02-07 12:46:52 AM  
An attack on same-sex marriage would be the second airplane.
 
Bootleg [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 2:21:00 AM  

fatassbastard: Oh GAWD I hope they do this!! The blue wave in 2024 would be historically epic.


I mean... I'd rather they not do it and there still be a blue wave, personally.
 
felching pen [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 2:53:46 AM  
It would have a catastrophic effect if it opened all medications that are riskier than mifopristone to easy class action suits. Thank Dog the pharmacy company can open its massive wallet and unleash a kind of hell that will have these morons craving an afternoon in the Texas sun.

And fark you, morons, for making me cheer for Big Pharma's lawyers.
 
Mr. Coffee Nerves [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 6:09:19 AM  
So, the lesson they took from the 2022 elections was "Clearly, we didn't try to ban abortion *hard* enough?"
 
enry [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 6:12:36 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: So, the lesson they took from the 2022 elections was "Clearly, we didn't try to ban abortion *hard* enough?"


Every time they lose an election they do some research to try and figure out why they lost.  Then they toss that report and say it's because they weren't conservative enough.
 
baka-san [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 7:32:26 AM  
Oh god these fukers

/side note, shouldn't it be " pharmaceutical abortions" and not " medicine, abortion"
//just kinda bothering me
 
AdmirableSnackbar [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 7:40:34 AM  

Bootleg: fatassbastard: Oh GAWD I hope they do this!! The blue wave in 2024 would be historically epic.

I mean... I'd rather they not do it and there still be a blue wave, personally.


"I hope they do this" is an unconscionable statement, because it will harm and kill people and ultimately voting out Republicans isn't enough to change our policies for the better. That statement is essentially "I hope they do this so that abortion gets banned so my team will be in charge and won't do anything to fix it." Disgusting.
 
raerae1980 [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 7:56:50 AM  

fatassbastard: Oh GAWD I hope they do this!! The blue wave in 2024 would be historically epic.


Are you female?  This is a weird thing to cheer for, btw...
 
brokenbiscuits [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 8:03:04 AM  

enry: Mr. Coffee Nerves: So, the lesson they took from the 2022 elections was "Clearly, we didn't try to ban abortion *hard* enough?"

Every time they lose an election they do some research to try and figure out why they lost.  Then they toss that report and say it's because they weren't conservative enough.


The conderpative rank and foul depend on confirmation bias to keep their cognitive dissonance at bay.

The upper.crust will always look for what is more cruel. They want the drooling hordes blessed with the self-righteous fury that used to only come from religious or racial zealotry. All because of political ideology: fascist or everything else.

/ Fear is a powerful motivator but it is nowhere  near as effective as hatred.
// People will march in the streets for a message but they will burn a city for spite.
 
hubiestubert [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 8:06:11 AM  
Why do I think that there are going to be exceptions for certain people? You know, the right people?
 
iheartscotch
2023-02-07 8:14:37 AM  
What happens when one state or one municipality just ignores that one judge?

Not a god damn thing. That is what happens to that one state or one municipal.
 
HotWingConspiracy
2023-02-07 8:14:55 AM  
The US has always done great keeping outlawed drugs out of the hands of its citizens.
 
kmgenesis23
2023-02-07 8:15:33 AM  

iheartscotch: What happens when one state or one municipality just ignores that one judge?

Not a god damn thing. That is what happens to that one state or one municipal.


The courts are illegitimate. Time to start ignoring them. Force a constitutional crisis and start over.
 
Koodz
2023-02-07 8:16:31 AM  

fatassbastard: Oh GAWD I hope they do this!! The blue wave in 2024 would be historically epic.


It'll mobilize some women on the blue side, but women on the red side will keep pulling the R lever.
 
cfreak [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 8:17:59 AM  
Isn't this drug used for a lot of things that aren't abortion?

Also it's time for sane America to simply ignore the illegitimate courts.
 
GardenWeasel [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 8:20:42 AM  

kmgenesis23: Force a constitutional crisis and start over.


That will be even worse. The craziest of the red state crazies would control a ConCon.
 
Thingster
2023-02-07 8:22:30 AM  
Taking cues from the left on gun control and judge shopping.

A lot of the nationwide injunctions come out of Hawaii and the Ninth Circuit, since they know it's friendly courts to their cause.
 
Chompachangas
2023-02-07 8:22:47 AM  
I don't want to sound like a crazy person but I think it's possible that the judicuary has just a bit too much power.
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 8:23:05 AM  
Simple solution to that judge: Biden takes a page from Lincoln's book and orders the FDA to ignore the judge.
 
Kuroshin
2023-02-07 8:23:43 AM  

kmgenesis23: iheartscotch: What happens when one state or one municipality just ignores that one judge?

Not a god damn thing. That is what happens to that one state or one municipal.

The courts are illegitimate. Time to start ignoring them. Force a constitutional crisis and start over.


You want United Jesus States of Christamerica?

Because that's how you get United Jesus States of Christamerica.
 
GameSprocket
2023-02-07 8:24:20 AM  
Let's hope that it is still a long way from no national right to abortion to a national ban.

But with this SCOTUS, who knows?
 
mrwknd
2023-02-07 8:24:30 AM  
GOP keeps claiming the impossible "imaginations" for their society to generate a more enthusiastic Fascist base.

No, single "judge" cannot mandate an opinion based in religious bias. Once America realizes the truth reactionary judges will be a thing of the past.

Yes, a temporary "ban" may happen, but under what call, banning the pill after many years of medical, and scientific, observations, for a "judge" to block it's use will be catastrophic to science and education.

/This judge should be able to show merit without a religious bias or just STFU, or be disbarred, tarred and feathered for subjugating his bias onto all.
 
Eunice's Social Calendar [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 8:24:32 AM  
the first r daughter that dies when the green m&m she thought was an abortion pill turns out to be fentanyl made back stage at drag queen story hour during the goat sacrifice act then they'll really regret it.  In fact, I'm in!  skip the overdose part though...I'm not an animal.
 
HotWingConspiracy
2023-02-07 8:26:13 AM  

Thingster: Taking cues from the left on gun control and judge shopping.

A lot of the nationwide injunctions come out of Hawaii and the Ninth Circuit, since they know it's friendly courts to their cause.


LOL yeah that's been going great.
 
Eunice's Social Calendar [TotalFark]
2023-02-07 8:27:49 AM  

Thingster: Taking cues from the left on gun control and judge shopping.

A lot of the nationwide injunctions come out of Hawaii and the Ninth Circuit, since they know it's friendly courts to their cause.


lol...well they're doing a bang up job on that gun control thing I'll tell ya...whatever...i know judge shopping is a thing...but good lord thats a silly statement.
 
RasIanI
2023-02-07 8:30:22 AM  

mrwknd: GOP keeps claiming the impossible "imaginations" for their society to generate a more enthusiastic Fascist base.

No, single "judge" cannot mandate an opinion based in religious bias. Once America realizes the truth reactionary judges will be a thing of the past.

Yes, a temporary "ban" may happen, but under what call, banning the pill after many years of medical, and scientific, observations, for a "judge" to block it's use will be catastrophic to science and education.

/This judge should be able to show merit without a religious bias or just STFU, or be disbarred, tarred and feathered for subjugating his bias onto all.


This entire "case" is a study in what would happen if conservatives had national supermajorities - law and jurisprudence based on what happens in their fevered imaginations.

A judge operating on established legal principles would've kiboshed this immediately.
 
Dr. Nick Riviera
2023-02-07 8:30:25 AM  
You know guys, I'm starting to think that maybe, just maybe, there's an outside chance that not voting for Hillary in 2016 was a mistake.
 
Hagbardr
2023-02-07 8:30:31 AM  
At what point do we realize that the rule of law is a social construct that requires a vast majority of society to believe in it for it to be effective? If they're going to play Calvinball with the law, at what point do we ignore it entirely?
 
ArcadianRefugee
2023-02-07 8:30:51 AM  
I'm gathering this will be a successful as the fed ban on weed, to which a few states (like California) said "fark you".
 
kpaxoid
2023-02-07 8:31:04 AM  
Let us return to a time where women are allowed control of their bodies by mathematics, but not by physics or chemistry. (Bertrand Russell)

\ assuming the males of the species allow even THAT
 
HotWingConspiracy
2023-02-07 8:31:16 AM  

mrwknd: /This judge should be able to show merit without a religious bias or just STFU, or be disbarred, tarred and feathered for subjugating his bias onto all.


Here's what will really happen - he will ban the pill and the reasoning doesn't even matter. Work as a judge as long as he likes, until the day he dies if that's what he wants. Should he retire, it's time to collect the winnings by sitting on boards of right wing groups.
 
HansoSparxx
2023-02-07 8:31:59 AM  

fatassbastard: Oh GAWD I hope they do this!! The blue wave in 2024 would be historically epic.


wtf???  Are magats attempting reverse psycology or something? LOL
 
Publikwerks
2023-02-07 8:33:10 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: You know guys, I'm starting to think that maybe, just maybe, there's an outside chance that not voting for Hillary in 2016 was a mistake.


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HighOnCraic
2023-02-07 8:33:18 AM  
It's almost as if "states' rights" was a phony excuse from the beginning, and even the people that originally used it weren't sincere about it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ableman_v._Booth

/Almost...
 
GoldSpider
2023-02-07 8:34:21 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: You know guys, I'm starting to think that maybe, just maybe, there's an outside chance that not voting for Hillary in 2016 was a mistake.


They're also not particularly inspired by Biden, so we could be in for another round of the same.
 
Copperbelly watersnake
2023-02-07 8:34:25 AM  

hubiestubert: Why do I think that there are going to be exceptions for certain people? You know, the right people?


The politicians and wealthy donors pushing this stuff will just quietly fly their mistresses off to sane countries.
 
HansoSparxx
2023-02-07 8:35:53 AM  

HighOnCraic: It's almost as if "states' rights" was a phony excuse from the beginning, and even the people that originally used it weren't sincere about it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ableman_v._Booth

/Almost...


This is why I'm starting to think that we're all being drugged into complacencey...  We KNOW this to be true - and yet, we still cling to the fantasy for some reason.
 
qorkfiend
2023-02-07 8:35:59 AM  

GardenWeasel: kmgenesis23: Force a constitutional crisis and start over.

That will be even worse. The craziest of the red state crazies would control a ConCon.


Also how does one "force a constitutional crisis"
 
someonelse
2023-02-07 8:36:29 AM  

Thingster: Taking cues from the left on gun control and judge shopping.

A lot of the nationwide injunctions come out of Hawaii and the Ninth Circuit, since they know it's friendly courts to their cause.


LOL, sure. Guns are so controlled.
 
qorkfiend
2023-02-07 8:36:50 AM  

mrwknd: GOP keeps claiming the impossible "imaginations" for their society to generate a more enthusiastic Fascist base.

No, single "judge" cannot mandate an opinion based in religious bias. Once America realizes the truth reactionary judges will be a thing of the past.

Yes, a temporary "ban" may happen, but under what call, banning the pill after many years of medical, and scientific, observations, for a "judge" to block it's use will be catastrophic to science and education.

/This judge should be able to show merit without a religious bias or just STFU, or be disbarred, tarred and feathered for subjugating his bias onto all.


And if none of that happens and they still issue the ban?
 
GoldSpider
2023-02-07 8:39:04 AM  
I'd been expecting a constant stream of articles covering daily incidents of women unnecessarily being killed/irreparably harmed because of Dobbs, with it inevitably resulting in a popular revolt against these laws, and... nothing.
 
qorkfiend
2023-02-07 8:39:27 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: I'm gathering this will be a successful as the fed ban on weed, to which a few states (like California) said "fark you".


Which was something of a cold comfort to all of the people not in California who ended up in jail for possession
 
FnkyTwn
2023-02-07 8:39:52 AM  
Next stop, condoms and birth control!
 
AdmirableSnackbar [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-07 8:40:16 AM  

mrwknd: GOP keeps claiming the impossible "imaginations" for their society to generate a more enthusiastic Fascist base.

No, single "judge" cannot mandate an opinion based in religious bias. Once America realizes the truth reactionary judges will be a thing of the past.

Yes, a temporary "ban" may happen, but under what call, banning the pill after many years of medical, and scientific, observations, for a "judge" to block it's use will be catastrophic to science and education.

/This judge should be able to show merit without a religious bias or just STFU, or be disbarred, tarred and feathered for subjugating his bias onto all.


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jntaylor63
2023-02-07 8:42:17 AM  
The Civil War should have the been the end of this "state's rights" crap.  We are either a nation or not.
 
moresugar
2023-02-07 8:42:43 AM  

iheartscotch: What happens when one state or one municipality just ignores that one judge?

Not a god damn thing. That is what happens to that one state or one municipal.


What will happen is what's happening now with abortion.  Doctors will be afraid to prescribe the morning-after pill and pharmacists won't dispense it because they're afraid of lawsuits and afraid that their insurance won't cover them if they do prescribe or dispense it and something goes wrong.
 
ditka80
2023-02-07 8:42:52 AM  
I think the logical retaliatory step would be to outlaw acetaminophen under legal similar standing.
 
I know a guy
2023-02-07 8:42:54 AM  

fatassbastard: Oh GAWD I hope they do this!! The blue wave in 2024 would be historically epic.


I know, right? The Republicans might do so badly they could win even more seats in the House.
 
dodecahedron [OhFark]
2023-02-07 8:43:32 AM  
Subby misleads. "The pill" is the established shorthand for the birth control pill. What the article refers to is the abortion pill, not the birth control pill.
 
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