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(BBC-US)   Chinese spy balloon was 200 ft tall and carried a payload the size of a jetliner   (bbc.com) divider line
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2023-02-06 9:00:42 PM  
Bye bye fly spy.
 
2023-02-06 9:03:39 PM  
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2023-02-06 9:10:29 PM  
They have satellites. What data were they trying to get with that, exactly? If they want my Netflix password, I don't even know it.
 
2023-02-06 9:31:00 PM  
"A top Pentagon official said the Chinese was 200-feet tall and had a payload the size of a jetliner"

That's a big Chinese.
 
2023-02-06 9:32:18 PM  

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2023-02-06 9:51:32 PM  
I wonder if it caught me Farking on my phone at work, it was directly overhead and I'm so mad I didn't see it.
 
2023-02-06 10:01:17 PM  
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2023-02-06 10:11:06 PM  

Mugato: They have satellites. What data were they trying to get with that, exactly? If they want my Netflix password, I don't even know it.


Unlike satellites, balloons can hover slowly, at a lower altitude, which might result in better and more detailed pictures.  They can also be harder to detect on some defense systems then satellites.
 
2023-02-06 10:13:27 PM  
Sure would have sucked if we missed.
 
2023-02-06 10:17:35 PM  

kermit the forg: Mugato: They have satellites. What data were they trying to get with that, exactly? If they want my Netflix password, I don't even know it.

Unlike satellites, balloons can hover slowly, at a lower altitude, which might result in better and more detailed pictures.  They can also be harder to detect on some defense systems then satellites.


What are they spying on, though? Unless they plan on going to war with the US tomorrow, it's nothing they can't change in time to make everything they see obsolete.
 
2023-02-06 10:57:50 PM  

RolandTGunner: "A top Pentagon official said the Chinese was 200-feet tall and had a payload the size of a jetliner"

That's a big Chinese.



Yeah, but two hours from now you'll want some more.
 
2023-02-06 10:58:19 PM  
How big is that compared to a small boulder and/or a large boulder?
 
2023-02-06 11:11:28 PM  

RolandTGunner: "A top Pentagon official said the Chinese was 200-feet tall and had a payload the size of a jetliner"

That's a big Chinese.


Must be from the Shangdong region.
 
2023-02-06 11:11:43 PM  
Balloon was one Delaware, with a payload of half a Rhode Island. Good thing that pilot didn't miss.
 
2023-02-06 11:12:46 PM  
Funny...it might have had explosives on it...that didn't detonate when struck by a missile.
 
2023-02-06 11:13:24 PM  
They farked up the 1st subheading below the headline,

Stupid humans
 
2023-02-06 11:15:18 PM  

Mugato: kermit the forg: Mugato: They have satellites. What data were they trying to get with that, exactly? If they want my Netflix password, I don't even know it.

Unlike satellites, balloons can hover slowly, at a lower altitude, which might result in better and more detailed pictures.  They can also be harder to detect on some defense systems then satellites.

What are they spying on, though? Unless they plan on going to war with the US tomorrow, it's nothing they can't change in time to make everything they see obsolete.


IMO they weren't really trying to spy. I think they were mostly testing out the balloons and our response. Although this is apparently at least the fourth one they've sent our way, so maybe the other unnoticed ones did see something interesting?
 
2023-02-06 11:15:45 PM  

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I'm glad they're willing to make reparations for the whole mess. Mighty polite of 'em.
 
2023-02-06 11:18:37 PM  
Will MTG wear a balloon lapel to the SOTU?
 
2023-02-06 11:20:04 PM  

Mugato: They have satellites. What data were they trying to get with that, exactly? If they want my Netflix password, I don't even know it.


For this one they were using the US media to play politics and force some sort of Biden ineptitude narrative.
 
2023-02-06 11:20:28 PM  

mistahtom: Will MTG wear a balloon lapel to the SOTU?


With her JR-15 pin pointing at the balloon pin.
 
2023-02-06 11:21:04 PM  
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2023-02-06 11:23:41 PM  
'It hasn't gotten a lot of attention and I understand there's criticism over the fact that it traversed the United States, but again, we took steps to mitigate whatever collection capability that balloon would have over our sensitive military sites,' he added.  Kirby wouldn't specify what precautions were taken during the balloon's multi-day flyover.

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2023-02-06 11:23:43 PM  

Mugato: kermit the forg: Mugato: They have satellites. What data were they trying to get with that, exactly? If they want my Netflix password, I don't even know it.

Unlike satellites, balloons can hover slowly, at a lower altitude, which might result in better and more detailed pictures.  They can also be harder to detect on some defense systems then satellites.

What are they spying on, though? Unless they plan on going to war with the US tomorrow, it's nothing they can't change in time to make everything they see obsolete.


There are other things to sample and surveil than visible light.  And in general, fly-overs can still provide better resolution than satellites due to simple proximity.

Ex: most detailed terrain views (cities) in mapping software come from overflight, not space.
 
2023-02-06 11:25:58 PM  
Not sure why we downed it with a missile. Any air force pilot worth their wings could have put a few shells through the balloon and downed it intact for recovery.
 
2023-02-06 11:30:03 PM  

W_Scarlet: Not sure why we downed it with a missile. Any air force pilot worth their wings could have put a few shells through the balloon and downed it intact for recovery.


They want to minimize any chances it had for scrubbing data. Make it lose power catastrophically, and as long as it doesn't burn completely there will be recoverable data.
 
2023-02-06 11:31:19 PM  
I'm disappointed the wreckage missed the target. We all missed out on a nice Taco Bell payday.
 
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2023-02-06 11:36:13 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: I'm disappointed the wreckage missed the target. We all missed out on a nice Taco Bell payday.


Then we'd have multiple loads the size of a jet airliner.
 
2023-02-06 11:39:55 PM  

newsvertisement: W_Scarlet: Not sure why we downed it with a missile. Any air force pilot worth their wings could have put a few shells through the balloon and downed it intact for recovery.

They want to minimize any chances it had for scrubbing data. Make it lose power catastrophically, and as long as it doesn't burn completely there will be recoverable data.


You said data twice.
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2023-02-06 11:42:00 PM  

Mugato: kermit the forg: Mugato: They have satellites. What data were they trying to get with that, exactly? If they want my Netflix password, I don't even know it.

Unlike satellites, balloons can hover slowly, at a lower altitude, which might result in better and more detailed pictures.  They can also be harder to detect on some defense systems then satellites.

What are they spying on, though? Unless they plan on going to war with the US tomorrow, it's nothing they can't change in time to make everything they see obsolete.


Ma and Pa Kettle's Beef Jerky Emporium.

Just as we feared.
 
2023-02-06 11:42:29 PM  

BafflerMeal: Mugato: kermit the forg: Mugato: They have satellites. What data were they trying to get with that, exactly? If they want my Netflix password, I don't even know it.

Unlike satellites, balloons can hover slowly, at a lower altitude, which might result in better and more detailed pictures.  They can also be harder to detect on some defense systems then satellites.

What are they spying on, though? Unless they plan on going to war with the US tomorrow, it's nothing they can't change in time to make everything they see obsolete.

There are other things to sample and surveil than visible light.  And in general, fly-overs can still provide better resolution than satellites due to simple proximity.

Ex: most detailed terrain views (cities) in mapping software come from overflight, not space.


Less air for the light to pass through/ get distorted by.
 
2023-02-06 11:42:35 PM  

W_Scarlet: Not sure why we downed it with a missile. Any air force pilot worth their wings could have put a few shells through the balloon and downed it intact for recovery.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2023/02/03/busting-that-chinese-balloon-is-harder-than-you-think/
 
2023-02-06 11:43:35 PM  
I thnk that the solar panels doubled as a rudder to stear the balloon, which was very clever, if true, nice design by the Chinese and the white silk very classic, and if not true, then very clever of me.
 
2023-02-06 11:44:13 PM  
American payloads are much larger.
 
2023-02-06 11:48:51 PM  

Lunakki: Mugato: kermit the forg: Mugato: They have satellites. What data were they trying to get with that, exactly? If they want my Netflix password, I don't even know it.

Unlike satellites, balloons can hover slowly, at a lower altitude, which might result in better and more detailed pictures.  They can also be harder to detect on some defense systems then satellites.

What are they spying on, though? Unless they plan on going to war with the US tomorrow, it's nothing they can't change in time to make everything they see obsolete.

IMO they weren't really trying to spy. I think they were mostly testing out the balloons and our response. Although this is apparently at least the fourth one they've sent our way, so maybe the other unnoticed ones did see something interesting?


You don't test response with a balloon carrying that much hardware.
 
2023-02-06 11:50:06 PM  

W_Scarlet: Not sure why we downed it with a missile. Any air force pilot worth their wings could have put a few shells through the balloon and downed it intact for recovery.


They hit the balloon with the missile, not the payload.
 
2023-02-06 11:51:15 PM  

King Something: How big is that compared to a small boulder and/or a large boulder?


Smaller than a small boulder, larger than a large one.
 
2023-02-06 11:51:37 PM  
Now I don't believe in balloons or the Chinese.
 
2023-02-06 11:51:47 PM  
It was bigger than any of us can possibly imagine.
It was YUGE.
It was bigger than Hillary's EMAILS!

But seriously, this thing was under the watch and probably getting jammed and radio intercepted by ISR aircraft from the time it entered CONUS airspace. They going to let this thing just float over the ICBM bases, Whiteman AFB, Fort Bragg and the US ballistic missile sub bases unchallenged. Not on your azz.

Just wait until the right wingers find out about GOOGLE EARTH.
 
2023-02-06 11:52:43 PM  
Um are we sure this was unmanned?

Seems like you could fit a bunch of ppl in this thing for a few weeks
 
2023-02-06 11:56:17 PM  
You could put a lot of anchor babies in that.
 
2023-02-06 11:59:07 PM  

Mugato: They have satellites. What data were they trying to get with that, exactly? If they want my Netflix password, I don't even know it.


Imagine if it had been a nuke.
 
2023-02-06 11:59:16 PM  

Mugato: kermit the forg: Mugato: They have satellites. What data were they trying to get with that, exactly? If they want my Netflix password, I don't even know it.

Unlike satellites, balloons can hover slowly, at a lower altitude, which might result in better and more detailed pictures.  They can also be harder to detect on some defense systems then satellites.

What are they spying on, though? Unless they plan on going to war with the US tomorrow, it's nothing they can't change in time to make everything they see obsolete.


Sometimes spying isn't about looking for something specific.  You look for whatever you can find, then put the pieces together with all the other stuff you've found and see if it amounts to something interesting.  Say one spy finds out Lockheed Martin uses a specific screw as part of regularly-scheduled maintenance of an aircraft.  Then another, unrelated spy, finds out a huge shipment of these oddly-specific screws are being sent to Kuwait.  Then your spy balloon confirms there are no aircraft of that model stationed in Kuwait.  None of that information is classified, but put it all together and maybe it means the USAF is mobilizing a shiat-load of aircraft to Kuwait, which means a pending military action of which you were not aware, which *is* classified.

And like kermit said, the balloons can loiter.  The longer you can stay in one place, the more pictures you can take and the more signals you can intercept.   That means higher-fidelity data and pattern detection.

Maybe after all that, you get absolutely no actionable information.  However, you did test the perimeter and cause a fair amount of civil unrest, which ain't nothing.
 
2023-02-07 12:01:36 AM  

Samfucious: Mugato: They have satellites. What data were they trying to get with that, exactly? If they want my Netflix password, I don't even know it.

Imagine if it had been a nuke.


Imagine if it had been a giant whale with rabies and it was a zombie and hangry.... scary stuff
 
2023-02-07 12:07:09 AM  
I'm less interested in what instruments it had and more in how they were getting data back from it.

Connected to a sat?  Piggybacking on our cell towers?  Backdoors in Chinese made iPhones?
 
2023-02-07 12:10:33 AM  

SomeAmerican: I'm less interested in what instruments it had and more in how they were getting data back from it.

Connected to a sat?  Piggybacking on our cell towers?  Backdoors in Chinese made iPhones?


Radio to Satellite probably
 
2023-02-07 12:13:33 AM  

DustBunny: Um are we sure this was unmanned?

Seems like you could fit a bunch of ppl in this thing for a few weeks


It would serve absolutely zero purpose to have people onboard, with all the food and life support needed for it. That's just taking up space and weight for whatever other equipment you can stuff into that.
 
2023-02-07 12:13:51 AM  
The Swalwell / Biden contract carried through to completion.....once the next balloon carries across.
 
2023-02-07 12:20:25 AM  

RolandTGunner: "A top Pentagon official said the Chinese was 200-feet tall and had a payload the size of a jetliner"

That's a big Chinese.


And yet some people thought it was a good idea to shoot it down while it was still over land.
 
2023-02-07 12:21:35 AM  

Neondistraction: RolandTGunner: "A top Pentagon official said the Chinese was 200-feet tall and had a payload the size of a jetliner"

That's a big Chinese.

And yet some people thought it was a good idea to shoot it down while it was still over land.


The military knew it was coming before it hit the U.S. border.
 
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