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1480 clicks; posted to Business » on 06 Feb 2023 at 3:05 PM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2023-02-06 3:22:46 PM  
People with pictures of Monopoly money are using it to get actual Monopoly money. It's a step up, I guess...
 
2023-02-06 3:23:13 PM  
Forget the people who borrow with NFTs as collateral, who the hell is lending with NFTs as collateral?

And when it all collapses, no government bailout.  In fact, all these people should have their dumbass faces posted online, maybe as free NFTs, for everyone to look at and laugh.
 
2023-02-06 3:25:11 PM  

hammettman: Forget the people who borrow with NFTs as collateral, who the hell is lending with NFTs as collateral?

And when it all collapses, no government bailout.  In fact, all these people should have their dumbass faces posted online, maybe as free NFTs, for everyone to look at and laugh.


The government already established it will bail out crypto with Silvergate.  Our real money is going to save these assholes.
 
2023-02-06 3:29:11 PM  

Psychohazard: hammettman: Forget the people who borrow with NFTs as collateral, who the hell is lending with NFTs as collateral?

And when it all collapses, no government bailout.  In fact, all these people should have their dumbass faces posted online, maybe as free NFTs, for everyone to look at and laugh.

The government already established it will bail out crypto with Silvergate.  Our real money is going to save these assholes.


I don't think that's entirely accurate.  https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/not-business-usual-jim-cramer-130000924.html

They got a private loan from a private organization that was defined by the government 90 years ago.  There's no taxpayer money involved.
 
2023-02-06 3:31:26 PM  
I mean, it's the model that Wall St uses.

Do "things" to create synthetic shares of stock, write down that you own X shares of stock, then use that piece of paper to obtain a loan of money based on those shares of stock.  Structure your company assets on that loan such that it cannot be easily repo'ed, then repeat when you have to make a payment.

If anything, this is way more honest, as it's just being done w/ jpegs.
 
2023-02-06 3:32:27 PM  
A bailout (TARP) was unfortunately necessary because of systemic risks to all lenders.  There has been zero fallout from all of these crypto collapses.  Major banks have very little to no crypto exposure.  Jamie Dimon has repeatedly called crypto a scam.  Warren Buffet said he wouldn't buy all the crypto in the world for $10.  I wouldn't worry about TARP II.  If all crypto went away tomorrow, it would only matter to cryptobros.
 
2023-02-06 3:41:16 PM  

hammettman: And when it all collapses, no government bailout.


This is, for the most part, a closed loop that doesn't pose any systemic risk. The mainstream banking system isn't exposed to crypto to nearly the extent it was exposed to subprime mortgages in 2008.

So yeah, no bailout. No reason for one.
 
2023-02-06 3:45:04 PM  
If you give a tangible asset for crypto or an NFT?  This is ALL YOUR FAULT!!!
 
2023-02-06 3:46:42 PM  

hammettman: Forget the people who borrow with NFTs as collateral, who the hell is lending with NFTs as collateral?

And when it all collapses, no government bailout.  In fact, all these people should have their dumbass faces posted online, maybe as free NFTs, for everyone to look at and laugh.


All NFTs are free if you have a copy/paste function
 
2023-02-06 4:13:56 PM  
The should put NFTs on blockchain. Nobody knows what blockchain can do.
 
2023-02-06 4:16:23 PM  

Phil McKraken: The should put NFTs on blockchain. Nobody knows what blockchain can do.


This is funny on a LOT of levels.

//technically correct, the best kind of correct
 
2023-02-06 4:24:12 PM  
just re-arranging the chairs and opening yourself up to be scammed.

doesn't matter what you say you have in NFT or crypto coins unless you can exchange them for fiat currency, and most often when there is a run the stable coin exchange stops it before they run out of hard currency
 
2023-02-06 4:29:26 PM  
I'm impressed that enough idiots are willing to take monkey clip art as collateral for loans. Even specialized collateral loans (like backed by art or a collection) have higher standards than that.

You deserve to lose money if you're that dumb.
 
2023-02-06 4:33:21 PM  
It's the circle of grift.
 
2023-02-06 4:46:23 PM  

Phil McKraken: The should put NFTs on blockchain. Nobody knows what blockchain can do.


Amateur. The real magic happens when you put the blockchain on the blockchain. I call it BlockSquared.
 
2023-02-06 5:02:50 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Warren Buffet said he wouldn't buy all the crypto in the world for $10.


Buffet was not exagerrating, it does absolutely make literal sense.

If you or I were able to literally obtain ownership of all existing crypto overnight, what would happen? Well, since crypto actually produces NOTHING, and is based on NOTHING, and is backed by NOTHING, why would even a single person in the world continue to want to buy into our crypto if we owned it all? It would be way easier, and cost almost nothing, for others to just start another 1000 crypto brands in no time at all, none of which we would have any ownership in, much less a monopoly.

A complete monopoly in crypto would be instantly worthless, in the same way creating a new currency in your basement and being the only owner of said currency would be worthless.

Now, imagine that instead of all owing all the existing deregulated crypto, somebody owned all the tech sector stocks. One person owning all those stocks would never result in the value instantly going to zero, would never result in complete loss of interest in those stocks by investors. WHY? Its because stocks are based on brick and mortar businesses and patents that have underlying VALUE and make MONEY.

You can't just replace an existing company's brick-and-mortar holding and patents, without huge sums of money. But any ol' crypto bro can create a "new" deregulated crypto product with no money, and almost no time required.

Why would anybody put money into something that has literally nothing supporting its value?
 
2023-02-06 5:22:29 PM  
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2023-02-06 5:47:12 PM  
I swear if I wasn't basically honest I'd start up a coin called Ponzicoin ($PONZI) with the promise that early investors will get 25% yearly interest.  Pay off the first 100 investors and then rug pull

Sure, someone will try and sue but it's going to be kind of hard to claim I wasn't upfront with the scheme
 
2023-02-06 6:25:10 PM  

Arkanaut: Phil McKraken: The should put NFTs on blockchain. Nobody knows what blockchain can do.

Amateur. The real magic happens when you put the blockchain on the blockchain. I call it BlockSquared.


You are going to have to take that up with him
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2023-02-06 6:33:31 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: I swear if I wasn't basically honest I'd start up a coin called Ponzicoin ($PONZI) with the promise that early investors will get 25% yearly interest.  Pay off the first 100 investors and then rug pull

Sure, someone will try and sue but it's going to be kind of hard to claim I wasn't upfront with the scheme


Too late:

https://www.coinbase.com/price/ponzicoin
 
2023-02-06 6:42:56 PM  

chitownmike: Arkanaut: Phil McKraken: The should put NFTs on blockchain. Nobody knows what blockchain can do.

Amateur. The real magic happens when you put the blockchain on the blockchain. I call it BlockSquared.

You are going to have to take that up with him
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Dang, missed a perfect opportunity for a celebrity endorsement.
 
2023-02-06 7:33:46 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: I swear if I wasn't basically honest I'd start up a coin called Ponzicoin ($PONZI) with the promise that early investors will get 25% yearly interest.  Pay off the first 100 investors and then rug pull

Sure, someone will try and sue but it's going to be kind of hard to claim I wasn't upfront with the scheme


OptionC: Glockenspiel Hero: I swear if I wasn't basically honest I'd start up a coin called Ponzicoin ($PONZI) with the promise that early investors will get 25% yearly interest.  Pay off the first 100 investors and then rug pull

Sure, someone will try and sue but it's going to be kind of hard to claim I wasn't upfront with the scheme

Too late:

https://www.coinbase.com/price/ponzicoin


This guy made out like a bandit:
https://uetoken.com/
 
2023-02-06 7:34:38 PM  

OptionC: Glockenspiel Hero: I swear if I wasn't basically honest I'd start up a coin called Ponzicoin ($PONZI) with the promise that early investors will get 25% yearly interest.  Pay off the first 100 investors and then rug pull

Sure, someone will try and sue but it's going to be kind of hard to claim I wasn't upfront with the scheme

Too late:

https://www.coinbase.com/price/ponzicoin


Heh- I love the market cap on that

$588.76

There's no million attached to that- every PONZI combined is worth $588.76

/Which is exactly $588.76 more than it's actually worth
 
2023-02-06 7:42:38 PM  

Fooshards: I mean, it's the model that Wall St uses.

Do "things" to create synthetic shares of stock, write down that you own X shares of stock, then use that piece of paper to obtain a loan of money based on those shares of stock.  Structure your company assets on that loan such that it cannot be easily repo'ed, then repeat when you have to make a payment.

If anything, this is way more honest, as it's just being done w/ jpegs.


The whole of crypto/web3 is modeled after the shadow banking regime that led to the 2008 crash. iat's like a Fisher Price My First Wall Street playset.
 
2023-02-06 7:58:03 PM  
i think in court we should take the POV that play money is play money and if you were willing to lend play money, they can print new play money to pay you back in.
yall have fun playing with your play money and your play rights to art works.
Sucks to be a chump that traded real money for play money, but what can you do, that's was their freedumb rights being exercised.
If they can prove a willful intent to defraud them cause they were easy gullible targets might be their best recoup route i'd imagine. in a hopeful decent world anyway.
 
2023-02-06 10:30:32 PM  
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2023-02-07 1:53:39 AM  

sirrerun: Fooshards: I mean, it's the model that Wall St uses.

Do "things" to create synthetic shares of stock, write down that you own X shares of stock, then use that piece of paper to obtain a loan of money based on those shares of stock.  Structure your company assets on that loan such that it cannot be easily repo'ed, then repeat when you have to make a payment.

If anything, this is way more honest, as it's just being done w/ jpegs.

The whole of crypto/web3 is modeled after the shadow banking regime that led to the 2008 crash. iat's like a Fisher Price My First Wall Street playset.


It sure is a good thing that those entities were all closed up and barred from doing business after 08 then, right?  This country sure would look stupid if those same entities were still allowed to be in charge of the majority of the backbone of market structure.

//Just a minute, my producers are telling me something in my earpiece...
 
2023-02-07 2:11:41 AM  
How many unicorn fart can I borrow using my magical beans as collaterals ?

/Bad analogy, actually. In the story, the beans were actually magical, and made Jack very rich
 
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