whither_apophis: More anti-Americanism in the PL

/and the team sucks too

This. American coaches get nowhere near the leeway to turn a team around that British, European or South American coaches get.

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/and the team sucks too

This. American coaches get nowhere near the leeway to turn a team around that British, European or South American coaches get.

Are you serious? Managers of teams in relegation battles get fired. See Lampard, Frank. British soccer legend, lasted a year at Everton.

Yes they said Marsch wasn't in trouble on Premiere League Live, but the USA! USA! hype for anything American in the PL is getting to be a bit much.

Yes, it's very true and there are receipts to back it up. There is a clear anti-American bias as far as managers and coaches go in Europe. You don't completely turn a team around in a year.

They fired Bob Bradley at Swansea after relentless press over things like calling it a game instead of a match, a starting lineup instead of a "first XI" practice instead of training, etc.

There have been any number of stories calling Marsch Ted Lasso simply because he's an American manager.

How is the anti-American manager bias not blindingly obvious at this point?

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/and the team sucks too

This. American coaches get nowhere near the leeway to turn a team around that British, European or South American coaches get.

Are you serious? Managers of teams in relegation battles get fired. See Lampard, Frank. British soccer legend, lasted a year at Everton.

Yes they said Marsch wasn't in trouble on Premiere League Live, but the USA! USA! hype for anything American in the PL is getting to be a bit much.

Yes, it's very true and there are receipts to back it up. There is a clear anti-American bias as far as managers and coaches go in Europe. You don't completely turn a team around in a year.

They fired Bob Bradley at Swansea after relentless press over things like calling it a game instead of a match, a starting lineup instead of a "first XI" practice instead of training, etc.

There have been any number of stories calling Marsch Ted Lasso simply because he's an American manager.

How is the anti-American manager bias not blindingly obvious at this point?

LOL, are there any American managers qualified to coach in the Prem even? No.

There are plenty of Americans coaching as assistants and managers throughout the world who never get opportunities to manage in Europe, yet the teams teams in England in particular keep recycling the same managers over and over hoping for different results after their last failures.

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/and the team sucks too

This. American coaches get nowhere near the leeway to turn a team around that British, European or South American coaches get.

Are you serious? Managers of teams in relegation battles get fired. See Lampard, Frank. British soccer legend, lasted a year at Everton.

Yes they said Marsch wasn't in trouble on Premiere League Live, but the USA! USA! hype for anything American in the PL is getting to be a bit much.

Yes, it's very true and there are receipts to back it up. There is a clear anti-American bias as far as managers and coaches go in Europe. You don't completely turn a team around in a year.

They fired Bob Bradley at Swansea after relentless press over things like calling it a game instead of a match, a starting lineup instead of a "first XI" practice instead of training, etc.

There have been any number of stories calling Marsch Ted Lasso simply because he's an American manager.

How is the anti-American manager bias not blindingly obvious at this point?

Marsch and Bradley would be two of the three American managers in Premier League history.  Not a whole lot of receipts there. Did Bradley get a quick ax, maybe, but it's not like that doesn't happen.  Ted Lasso references about Marsch...that might be the nicest, lamest bad thing to be said about a manager in PL history.

Except it's not the lamest. The anti-American "yanks don't know football" thing is a played out trope in England. The insinuation is that Marsch, with success in Germany, is a bumbling but lovable guy who knows nothing about the game. Marsch is undoubtedly better than Lampard as a manager, with a list of credentials to prove, yet I guarantee Lampard gets a top flight job in England again before Marsch. I'd bet my house on it. Lampard will get a chance because he's British; Marsch won't because "yanks don't know football." That cannot be denied by any serious person.

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/and the team sucks too

This. American coaches get nowhere near the leeway to turn a team around that British, European or South American coaches get.

Are you serious? Managers of teams in relegation battles get fired. See Lampard, Frank. British soccer legend, lasted a year at Everton.

Yes they said Marsch wasn't in trouble on Premiere League Live, but the USA! USA! hype for anything American in the PL is getting to be a bit much.

Yes, it's very true and there are receipts to back it up. There is a clear anti-American bias as far as managers and coaches go in Europe. You don't completely turn a team around in a year.

They fired Bob Bradley at Swansea after relentless press over things like calling it a game instead of a match, a starting lineup instead of a "first XI" practice instead of training, etc.

There have been any number of stories calling Marsch Ted Lasso simply because he's an American manager.

How is the anti-American manager bias not blindingly obvious at this point?

LOL, are there any American managers qualified to coach in the Prem even? No.

There are plenty of Americans coaching as assistants and managers throughout the world who never get opportunities to manage in Europe, yet the teams teams in England in particular keep recycling the same managers over and over hoping for different results after their last failures.

I mean, so what?

Are you dense? The point is that they're getting opportunities because they're British; not because they're better.

Much like white coaches in the NFL and NBA consistently get jobs over more qualified minority candidates.

There's an undeniable bias in both situations.

drewogatory: I mean, I don't disagree, I'm just confused as to why it bothers you. I find it funny myself.

Expressing a point =/= "bothering me."

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/and the team sucks too

This. American coaches get nowhere near the leeway to turn a team around that British, European or South American coaches get.

Are you serious? Managers of teams in relegation battles get fired. See Lampard, Frank. British soccer legend, lasted a year at Everton.

Yes they said Marsch wasn't in trouble on Premiere League Live, but the USA! USA! hype for anything American in the PL is getting to be a bit much.

Yes, it's very true and there are receipts to back it up. There is a clear anti-American bias as far as managers and coaches go in Europe. You don't completely turn a team around in a year.

They fired Bob Bradley at Swansea after relentless press over things like calling it a game instead of a match, a starting lineup instead of a "first XI" practice instead of training, etc.

There have been any number of stories calling Marsch Ted Lasso simply because he's an American manager.

How is the anti-American manager bias not blindingly obvious at this point?

Marsch and Bradley would be two of the three American managers in Premier League history.  Not a whole lot of receipts there. Did Bradley get a quick ax, maybe, but it's not like that doesn't happen.  Ted Lasso references about Marsch...that might be the nicest, lamest bad thing to be said about a manager in PL history.

Except it's not the lamest. The anti-American "yanks don't know football" thing is a played out trope in England. The insinuation is that Marsch, with success in Germany, is a bumbling but lovable guy who knows nothing about the game. Marsch is undoubtedly better than Lampard as a manager, with a list of credentials to prove, yet I guarantee Lampard gets a top flight job in England again before Marsch. I'd bet my house on it. Lampard will get a chance because he's British; Marsch won't because "yanks don't know football." Th ...

Once again, there is nothing anti-American about the Marsch firing.  It happens to teams in relegation fights. Just look at who Marsch replaced, Marcelo Bielsa. His resume is a little more impressive than Marsch's.  (That's not a slight on Marsch who is still relatively young as a coach.) Bielsa is a legend in Leeds, managed them to 9th on their return to the Pl, but when he found himself in a relegation fight the next season, boom! Replaced by Marsch.

How long did they give him as a manager to bring in his own players and impose his own style of play to have success?

Now how long did they give March to do the same?

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/and the team sucks too

This. American coaches get nowhere near the leeway to turn a team around that British, European or South American coaches get.

Are you serious? Managers of teams in relegation battles get fired. See Lampard, Frank. British soccer legend, lasted a year at Everton.

Yes they said Marsch wasn't in trouble on Premiere League Live, but the USA! USA! hype for anything American in the PL is getting to be a bit much.

Yes, it's very true and there are receipts to back it up. There is a clear anti-American bias as far as managers and coaches go in Europe. You don't completely turn a team around in a year.

They fired Bob Bradley at Swansea after relentless press over things like calling it a game instead of a match, a starting lineup instead of a "first XI" practice instead of training, etc.

There have been any number of stories calling Marsch Ted Lasso simply because he's an American manager.

How is the anti-American manager bias not blindingly obvious at this point?

Marsch and Bradley would be two of the three American managers in Premier League history.  Not a whole lot of receipts there. Did Bradley get a quick ax, maybe, but it's not like that doesn't happen.  Ted Lasso references about Marsch...that might be the nicest, lamest bad thing to be said about a manager in PL history.

Except it's not the lamest. The anti-American "yanks don't know football" thing is a played out trope in England. The insinuation is that Marsch, with success in Germany, is a bumbling but lovable guy who knows nothing about the game. Marsch is undoubtedly better than Lampard as a manager, with a list of credentials to prove, yet I guarantee Lampard gets a top flight job in England again before Marsch. I'd bet my house on it. Lampard will get a chance because he's British; Marsc ...

A year, same amount of time as Lampard. For the last time, managers of teams in relegation battles get fired.

Lampard's resume is paltry compared to Marsch. Not a great flex you're trying to make there.

Marsch never got an actual opportunity to implement his playing style with his players; something his CV warramts.

"FoR tHe LaSt TiMe," Derp. If he were British he'd have been given more time and we all know it. Except for you, apparently.

drewogatory: And that CV puts to rest your "Americans never get a chance", because it sounds like he DID in fact get promoted over his head. One season in a top flight league (MLS might as well be AYSO) as a farking assistant normally doesn't get you a Prem job.

How many seasons did Lampard have when he managed Chelsea.

What about Gerrard?

Exactly.

You've proven my point. English managers get longer opportunities despite not having any qualifications other than being English. Marsch's past success warranted longer. If he were English, he'd have gotten longer.

Cajnik: Didn't Leeds just go grab an American benchwarmer from Juventus on deadline day? Sucks for that kid (if my memory serves me right)

Weston McKennie was hardly a "bench warmer" at Juve. He was consistently starting, even while being played out of position.