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LucklessWonder [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 11:14:40 AM  
It's always the teams you most expect...
 
cameroncrazy1984 [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 11:35:44 AM  
I knew something was up once Jamie Tartt was sacked from there
 
eagles95
2023-02-06 11:55:21 AM  
Citeh fan here. I honestly am not shocked by this. Everyone knows they have done this. The fun part is if anything happens. I dont think they can bribe their way out of this one. If they cant Venmo some people money, they should settle on a 30 point penalty this season in EPL. I mean, they aren't going to win CL since Pep is gonna Pep and blow a semi final.
 
ElwoodCuse
2023-02-06 11:56:59 AM  
a team that spends money on players? what's that?

/levy out
 
doctorguilty
2023-02-06 12:14:10 PM  
As a City fan myself ... yeah, we'll see what happens.
 
BigMax [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 12:16:56 PM  
Manchester has so much to answer for.
 
Trocadero
2023-02-06 12:34:26 PM  
They'll get fined, not docked points. To prove their point, the Man City owners should write the check and drop it on the ground, make the EPL/FA bend low to pick it up.
 
EqualOpportunityEnslaver
2023-02-06 12:40:07 PM  
People refer to them as Financial Fair Play FC for a reason
 
Zerochance
2023-02-06 12:51:04 PM  
Fining one of the clubs that is actually sitting on an unlimited pile of money is absolutely farking pointless.  Man City is also one of the biggest draws of the Premiere League; they're not going to expel them or relegate them to the Championship.  Money ALWAYS talks.

If the Prem wants to punish them, they should dock a considerable amount of points (something that makes qualifying for a UCL spot a real uphill battle for them), while banning them from a number of transfer market windows.
 
OtherLittleGuy [BareFark]
2023-02-06 12:55:46 PM  

Zerochance: Fining one of the clubs that is actually sitting on an unlimited pile of money is absolutely farking pointless.  Man City is also one of the biggest draws of the Premiere League; they're not going to expel them or relegate them to the Championship.  Money ALWAYS talks.

If the Prem wants to punish them, they should dock a considerable amount of points (something that makes qualifying for a UCL spot a real uphill battle for them), while banning them from a number of transfer market windows.


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Trocadero
2023-02-06 12:59:44 PM  

Zerochance: Fining one of the clubs that is actually sitting on an unlimited pile of money is absolutely farking pointless.  Man City is also one of the biggest draws of the Premiere League; they're not going to expel them or relegate them to the Championship.  Money ALWAYS talks.

If the Prem wants to punish them, they should dock a considerable amount of points (something that makes qualifying for a UCL spot a real uphill battle for them), while banning them from a number of transfer market windows.


They said the same thing about Juve, and they keep coming back. They said the same thing about Barca, and they signed Lewandoski. It's all a farce unless they A) kick them out (which would probably trigger the actual Super League for real this time) or B) force an ownership change like they did to Chelsea/Roman. They ain't doing either, so they'll pay their fines, sign players they're not supposed to, but nobody will care b/c the checks clear (which isn't a given w/ Barca, anymore).
 
drewogatory
2023-02-06 1:13:42 PM  
I mean, they are talking stripping all their titles a la Juve, and relegating them like Rangers. It's kind of an existential crisis for the PL. And it's not like they are a historically big club. This will definitely be more than a transfer ban and a fine.
 
Zerochance
2023-02-06 1:16:09 PM  

Trocadero: Zerochance: Fining one of the clubs that is actually sitting on an unlimited pile of money is absolutely farking pointless.  Man City is also one of the biggest draws of the Premiere League; they're not going to expel them or relegate them to the Championship.  Money ALWAYS talks.

If the Prem wants to punish them, they should dock a considerable amount of points (something that makes qualifying for a UCL spot a real uphill battle for them), while banning them from a number of transfer market windows.

They said the same thing about Juve, and they keep coming back. They said the same thing about Barca, and they signed Lewandoski. It's all a farce unless they A) kick them out (which would probably trigger the actual Super League for real this time) or B) force an ownership change like they did to Chelsea/Roman. They ain't doing either, so they'll pay their fines, sign players they're not supposed to, but nobody will care b/c the checks clear (which isn't a given w/ Barca, anymore).


Those cases are different though.  Juve has FA&FO'd.  They were relegated to Serie B in recent history, they just took a huge points penalty, and their entire board has resigned.

Barça had to take out payday loans and offload their highest earners to sign Lewy, plus they lost Messi because of La Liga salary cap rules they couldn't meet while he was in the squad.  They're badly managed, but they haven't broken any rules like City is being accused of.
 
desertgeek
2023-02-06 1:31:52 PM  
Sigh... talk to me when someone finally has the balls to make any real punishment against them stand after appeals.
 
Vegan T-Rex
2023-02-06 1:50:21 PM  
I like how the Premier League is so very English to its core (well, except for the talent, which is very English in and of itself). Lots of talk about how financial fair play protects the 'have nots' from themselves, when it's functionally a weapon for the old money clubs to protect themselves from a new money club from ever encroaching and upending the age old order (at least, not for too long).
 
Poldana
2023-02-06 2:16:21 PM  
As an American who is new to football, I'm finding the stuff that doesn't happen on the pitch just as interesting as what happens on. But then I do follow MLB year round too.
 
Cyrene Valantion
2023-02-06 2:21:02 PM  
As a counterpoint to all the "they won't do anything"

Rangers were dumped all the way to the very bottom of the Scottish pyramid for doing less than city are accused of.
 
drewogatory
2023-02-06 2:22:10 PM  

Cyrene Valantion: As a counterpoint to all the "they won't do anything"

Rangers were dumped all the way to the very bottom of the Scottish pyramid for doing less than city are accused of.


And Rangers are a big club.
 
ElwoodCuse
2023-02-06 2:42:29 PM  
they already had the court of arbitration for sport overturn their champions league ban, won't they just run crying there again?
 
drewogatory
2023-02-06 2:45:30 PM  

ElwoodCuse: they already had the court of arbitration for sport overturn their champions league ban, won't they just run crying there again?


Can't this time.
 
Kelwen
2023-02-06 2:53:50 PM  
I expect a crippling punishment of 1000£ fine, a stern warning,and being forced to wear their away 3rd kit for the remainder of the season
 
The Third Man [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 2:58:08 PM  

Cyrene Valantion: As a counterpoint to all the "they won't do anything"

Rangers were dumped all the way to the very bottom of the Scottish pyramid for doing less than city are accused of.


What Rangers did was very different though.  They ran up huge debts and couldn't pay their tax bills.  Yes, there were other financial shenanigans going on, but the major issue was that they owed the Government a lot of money that they couldn't afford to pay--close to £50 million in 2010.  A club like Man City could just sell a few players to make up that cash, but Rangers didn't have those kinds of assets.

Originally Rangers went into administration to try to reorganize to pay their debts, but 1) they were so deep in debt no amount of deck-chair moving was going to save that Titanic, and 2) they got sold (for one pound) to a shady guy named David Whyte who the SFA deemed "not fit or proper" to run a club.

So the Government actually liquidated Rangers.  The Rangers club of pre-2012 no longer exists.  This, rather than any misdeeds they got up to, is the reason they got kicked down to the fourth tier of Scottish football.  The New Rangers (which the rest of us sometimes call "Sevco") were treated like any other new club which applied to fill a gap in the Scottish Professional League...a gap, of course, created by the liquidation of Old Rangers.  Technically any other Scottish club not in the SFL could have applied to join (and I think at least one tried), but the Scottish FA kindly allowed Sevco to be the only applicant.  And just like Annan Athletic or Peterhead or Elgin City before them, the new club started at the fourth step.

This is not the same situation as Man City.  For starters, there's no chance they'll be liquidated like Old Rangers were.  And there's no precedent for anyone being kicked out of the Premier League.  I'm thinking Man City will probably get a points deduction and a transfer ban.  The transfer ban will really be the worst punishment...look how a relatively short transfer ban has discombobulated Chelsea.  Current players will leave Man City if they don't think the club will compete in Europe...a long transfer ban means they will leave and City will have no replacements.
 
ElwoodCuse
2023-02-06 2:58:15 PM  

drewogatory: ElwoodCuse: they already had the court of arbitration for sport overturn their champions league ban, won't they just run crying there again?

Can't this time.


why not?
 
The Third Man [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 3:06:34 PM  
Er...the shady guy was Craig Whyte, not David.  Sorry to any David Whytes out there.
 
drewogatory
2023-02-06 3:10:11 PM  

The Third Man: Cyrene Valantion: As a counterpoint to all the "they won't do anything"

Rangers were dumped all the way to the very bottom of the Scottish pyramid for doing less than city are accused of.

What Rangers did was very different though.  They ran up huge debts and couldn't pay their tax bills.  Yes, there were other financial shenanigans going on, but the major issue was that they owed the Government a lot of money that they couldn't afford to pay--close to £50 million in 2010.  A club like Man City could just sell a few players to make up that cash, but Rangers didn't have those kinds of assets.

Originally Rangers went into administration to try to reorganize to pay their debts, but 1) they were so deep in debt no amount of deck-chair moving was going to save that Titanic, and 2) they got sold (for one pound) to a shady guy named David Whyte who the SFA deemed "not fit or proper" to run a club.

So the Government actually liquidated Rangers.  The Rangers club of pre-2012 no longer exists.  This, rather than any misdeeds they got up to, is the reason they got kicked down to the fourth tier of Scottish football.  The New Rangers (which the rest of us sometimes call "Sevco") were treated like any other new club which applied to fill a gap in the Scottish Professional League...a gap, of course, created by the liquidation of Old Rangers.  Technically any other Scottish club not in the SFL could have applied to join (and I think at least one tried), but the Scottish FA kindly allowed Sevco to be the only applicant.  And just like Annan Athletic or Peterhead or Elgin City before them, the new club started at the fourth step.

This is not the same situation as Man City.  For starters, there's no chance they'll be liquidated like Old Rangers were.  And there's no precedent for anyone being kicked out of the Premier League.  I'm thinking Man City will probably get a points deduction and a transfer ban.  The transfer ban will really be the worst punishment...look how a relative ...


There's rumbling that there are taxation issues, but certainly nothing they couldn't pay off, even with a huge penalty.
 
Hillbilly Jim
2023-02-06 3:20:39 PM  

BigMax: Manchester has so much to answer for.


You should hear how she talks about you.
 
eagles95
2023-02-06 4:07:55 PM  

ElwoodCuse: they already had the court of arbitration for sport overturn their champions league ban, won't they just run crying there again?


Per a different article, this issue can't go to COA as it pertains to a domestic league. It can go to an independent arbiter from the EPL. I think they should take a 25 point hit for EPL season and focus on blowing UCL in the finals instead of semifinal

/Citeh fan
 
Norfolking Chance
2023-02-06 4:15:16 PM  

The Third Man: Cyrene Valantion: As a counterpoint to all the "they won't do anything"

Rangers were dumped all the way to the very bottom of the Scottish pyramid for doing less than city are accused of.

What Rangers did was very different though.  They ran up huge debts and couldn't pay their tax bills.  Yes, there were other financial shenanigans going on, but the major issue was that they owed the Government a lot of money that they couldn't afford to pay--close to £50 million in 2010.  A club like Man City could just sell a few players to make up that cash, but Rangers didn't have those kinds of assets.

Originally Rangers went into administration to try to reorganize to pay their debts, but 1) they were so deep in debt no amount of deck-chair moving was going to save that Titanic, and 2) they got sold (for one pound) to a shady guy named David Whyte who the SFA deemed "not fit or proper" to run a club.

So the Government actually liquidated Rangers.  The Rangers club of pre-2012 no longer exists.  This, rather than any misdeeds they got up to, is the reason they got kicked down to the fourth tier of Scottish football.  The New Rangers (which the rest of us sometimes call "Sevco") were treated like any other new club which applied to fill a gap in the Scottish Professional League...a gap, of course, created by the liquidation of Old Rangers.  Technically any other Scottish club not in the SFL could have applied to join (and I think at least one tried), but the Scottish FA kindly allowed Sevco to be the only applicant.  And just like Annan Athletic or Peterhead or Elgin City before them, the new club started at the fourth step.

This is not the same situation as Man City.  For starters, there's no chance they'll be liquidated like Old Rangers were.  And there's no precedent for anyone being kicked out of the Premier League.  I'm thinking Man City will probably get a points deduction and a transfer ban.  The transfer ban will really be the worst punishment...look how a relative ...


Ranger's tax issues were trying to use complex offshore trusts to pay most of a players salary, instead of putting it through the books and paying tax on it (both employers taxes and deducting the appropriate employees taxes).

They lost the case and the judges ruled that these trusts should have been taxed as salary and that is why Rangers had a decade's worth of tax due (plus fines for late payment and shenanigans).

The reason why it blew up in the face of Rangers and not other clubs was the quality of tax advice and fine hairs of legalities. Every club uses all sorts of tricks like image rights and pension contributions to reduce a players tax bill but they are better at making sure take avoidance doesn't become tax evasion.

Even in tax affairs, the SPL is behind in the skill of the EPL.
 
Zerochance
2023-02-06 4:24:51 PM  

The Third Man: a long transfer ban means they will leave and City will have no replacements.


I could also see Pep bailing.  No transfers and no UCL football is too much to ask for a manager of his caliber.
 
Jairzinho
2023-02-06 4:30:19 PM  
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doctorguilty
2023-02-06 4:47:41 PM  

Jairzinho: Stolen from Twitter
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I'll give them that one, well done.
 
saywhonow
2023-02-06 8:48:55 PM  
But, you know, the real problem was Russian ownership of a team. It's cool if oil barons from the middle east do it through shell companies and fraud. The only difference here is that Roman had his money frozen and couldn't cut a check to buy his way out of it. I hate to say nothing will happen, but I really don't see the PL doing anything that might interrupt their cash flow or clout throughout the European football world. We'll see if they actually have any teeth, though.
 
Mad Canadian
2023-02-07 1:08:47 AM  
Knock 30 points off, put them on par with Southampton, and if they can't escape the Relegation Delegation with a little less than half a season to go, well, enjoy playing Preston North End and Wigan next season...
 
Kelwen
2023-02-07 2:09:34 PM  

Mad Canadian: Knock 30 points off, put them on par with Southampton, and if they can't escape the Relegation Delegation with a little less than half a season to go, well, enjoy playing Preston North End and Wigan next season...


You leave Preston out of this...this is the year we get promoted...please...
 
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