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(Daily Record (UK))   The terrifying history of Scotland's 'Massacre Cave' where an entire island died. Subby read the article but still doesn't understand how some clan fit an entire island in that little cave   (dailyrecord.co.uk) divider line
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vudukungfu [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 7:12:17 AM  
Bet there is a No Smoking sign in it
 
MythDragon
2023-02-06 8:21:25 AM  
Subby, ask your mom how they all fit in there.  She knows.

/zing
 
WilderKWight
2023-02-06 8:29:42 AM  
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capt.snicklefritz [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 8:33:25 AM  
Not nearly as fabulous as the Mascara Cave.
 
Glockenspiel Hero [OhFark]
2023-02-06 8:34:55 AM  
Likely the most famous inhabitants of the island were the clan of MacDonald, who lived there for hundreds of years until they met a grizzly end at the hands of a rival clan in 1577.

*Twitch*
 
thealgorerhythm
2023-02-06 8:35:29 AM  
And that's how you Scotch an Eigg.
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 8:37:16 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: Likely the most famous inhabitants of the island were the clan of MacDonald, who lived there for hundreds of years until they met a grizzly end at the hands of a rival clan in 1577.

*Twitch*


Hey if a rival clan brings over bears from the New World, I don't think anything good will come of it.
 
FLMountainMan
2023-02-06 8:38:52 AM  
Ronald MacDonald seeks reparations from the Highlander?
 
Northern
2023-02-06 8:45:02 AM  
The MacLoud's were battered and fried in hot oil alive like so many Mars bars.
 
starlost
2023-02-06 8:45:03 AM  
I saw a documentary about it.
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BitwiseShift
2023-02-06 8:52:38 AM  
Clann in Scot Gaelic means children.  So we've carried on the tradition in the New World, but use schools instead of caves.
 
NobleHam
2023-02-06 8:53:57 AM  
Well, that's certainly a story people tell, but there's not a lot of evidence that it actually happened.
 
OtherLittleGuy [BareFark]
2023-02-06 8:55:43 AM  

starlost: I saw a documentary about it.
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NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 8:57:01 AM  

NobleHam: Well, that's certainly a story people tell, but there's not a lot of evidence that it actually happened.


Welcome to 90% of local/regional history.  Museums have a tough job trying to figure out what actually happened in history, and what was a myth invented in the past 100-150 years to make people feel better about themselves.
 
I just lurk here
2023-02-06 9:01:03 AM  
Does it have full orchestration, 4 part harmony, and photos with circles and arrows and diagrams?
 
nytmare
2023-02-06 9:03:47 AM  

capt.snicklefritz: Not nearly as fabulous as the Mascara Cave.


The Macarena cave is a fate worse than death.
 
mrparks
2023-02-06 9:04:32 AM  

NM Volunteer: NobleHam: Well, that's certainly a story people tell, but there's not a lot of evidence that it actually happened.

Welcome to 90% of local/regional history.  Museums have a tough job trying to figure out what actually happened in history, and what was a myth invented in the past 100-150 years to make people feel better about themselves.


Is the story behind the Apache Death Cave true?
 
carkiller
2023-02-06 9:12:28 AM  
Can't make an omelet...
 
Brainsick
2023-02-06 9:17:35 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: Likely the most famous inhabitants of the island were the clan of MacDonald, who lived there for hundreds of years until they met a grizzly end at the hands of a rival clan in 1577.

*Twitch*


Oh cmon, it's fine to use grizzly or grisly, rite? Pouring over old history, some times you have to pump the breaks on modern thinking, irregardless of the cultural differences their would be.
 
beezeltown [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 9:17:52 AM  
Seen near cave:
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thealgorerhythm
2023-02-06 9:21:11 AM  

NM Volunteer: NobleHam: Well, that's certainly a story people tell, but there's not a lot of evidence that it actually happened.

Welcome to 90% of local/regional history.  Museums have a tough job trying to figure out what actually happened in history, and what was a myth invented in the past 100-150 years to make people feel better about themselves.


The Tulsa Chamber of Commerce is your community partner for diversity, for over 100 years.
 
Target Builder
2023-02-06 9:21:33 AM  
"Died"

That's some pretty serious passive voice in the author's title.
 
Abe Vigoda's Ghost
2023-02-06 9:32:50 AM  
'Massacre Cave' is the name of my 'Hole' cover band.
 
The Irresponsible Captain [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 9:40:44 AM  
A Massacre Cave? With four-part harmony? (And feeling?)
 
qorkfiend [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 9:42:10 AM  

NM Volunteer: NobleHam: Well, that's certainly a story people tell, but there's not a lot of evidence that it actually happened.

Welcome to 90% of local/regional history.  Museums have a tough job trying to figure out what actually happened in history, and what was a myth invented in the past 100-150 years to make people feel better about themselves.


That's more for historians than museums.
 
baronbloodbath [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 9:44:39 AM  
I'm descended from the MacLeods on my father's side so I'm getting a kick.

Hugh MacLeod left Scotland for the New World after his family was slaughtered by a mysterious stranger from the east known only as the Kurgan. His only known relative was a brother who was banished from the clan for witchcraft. At least, that's what I was able to find on Ancestry. This one dude Duncan keeps hiatting me up to ask about swords and shiat. He's like a cousin or something.
 
johnphantom
2023-02-06 9:51:20 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: Likely the most famous inhabitants of the island were the clan of MacDonald, who lived there for hundreds of years until they met a grizzly end at the hands of a rival clan in 1577.

*Twitch*


They meant "Grisly" end. Humans don't make very good cooking meat.
 
thenewflesh
2023-02-06 9:51:24 AM  
"The men were miraculously rescued by their clan, who swore revenge on the MacDonalds. The chief of Clan MacLeod reportedly ordered his men to take the island by storm."

Well, I mean, if you're going to be attacked by immortals like Connor...
 
leviosaurus [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 9:53:22 AM  
From the wiki page:

Serious doubts remain about the veracity of the tale; in later times a minister of Eigg stated "the less I enquired into its history ... the more I was likely to feel I knew something about it".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eigg#Massacre_and_pillage

/That's a beautiful statement. Modern political knowledge in a nutshell.
 
Dadoody
2023-02-06 10:00:41 AM  
Clan MacDonald's Revenge!

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pdieten
2023-02-06 10:11:26 AM  

Brainsick: Glockenspiel Hero: Likely the most famous inhabitants of the island were the clan of MacDonald, who lived there for hundreds of years until they met a grizzly end at the hands of a rival clan in 1577.

*Twitch*

Oh cmon, it's fine to use grizzly or grisly, rite? Pouring over old history, some times you have to pump the breaks on modern thinking, irregardless of the cultural differences their would be.


Username checks out
 
Sentient
2023-02-06 10:21:24 AM  

NobleHam: Well, that's certainly a story people tell, but there's not a lot of evidence that it actually happened.


True, but the tale certainly fits Scottish clan traditions.
 
big pig peaches
2023-02-06 10:27:02 AM  

johnphantom: Glockenspiel Hero: Likely the most famous inhabitants of the island were the clan of MacDonald, who lived there for hundreds of years until they met a grizzly end at the hands of a rival clan in 1577.

*Twitch*

They meant "Grisly" end. Humans don't make very good cooking meat.


Sounds like they were smoked.

Low and slow will turn the toughest meat into delicious, tender barbecue.
 
cravak
2023-02-06 10:31:54 AM  

nytmare: capt.snicklefritz: Not nearly as fabulous as the Mascara Cave.

The Macarena cave is a fate worse than death.


This is true in the 90s I worked in a sports memorabilia shop in Cesar's palace for a while and they had the statues dancing every 15 minutes to it  and it was a nightmare
 
Barricaded Gunman
2023-02-06 10:32:49 AM  
Legend states that men from Clan MacLeod wound up on the island following a violent storm. While on the island, they abused the local women, which resulted in the MacDonalds casting them out to sea. The men were miraculously rescued by their clan, who swore revenge on the MacDonalds.

The lesson is that when you capture a group of assholes who assaulted your home and family, you don't let them regroup and try again, you cut off their f*cking heads and dump their bodies into the ocean without ceremony.

It's what we would have done here in America if the fate of the January 6th insurrectionists had been left up to me.
 
Wessoman
2023-02-06 10:36:24 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: 'Massacre Cave' is the name of my 'Hole' cover band.


I mean, it's a much better name than the original band.

Ask Kurt Cobain.
 
Someone Else's Alt [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 10:36:26 AM  

leviosaurus: From the wiki page:

Serious doubts remain about the veracity of the tale; in later times a minister of Eigg stated "the less I enquired into its history ... the more I was likely to feel I knew something about it".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eigg#Massacre_and_pillage

/That's a beautiful statement. Modern political knowledge in a nutshell.


The Scots love a good mythology. My maternal grandfather migrated from Scotland in the 1930s. He had lots of great stories about the 'history' of our people and land in Scotland. I have been there a few times for work and twice for vacation as recently as last year. The highlands, Sky and the outer islands are an almost mystical place, farms and small villages, ancient castle ruins everywhere, mythical sounding places to visit like the Fairy Pool and The Fairy Glenn, which really does look like Faries still live there among the small hills.

Sorting out history from 'legend' is difficult in a place where few people knew how to read and write and clan loyalties and grudges lasted centuries even into modern times.

Picture I took of The Fairy Glenn.
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One of The Fairy Pools
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Dunnottar Castle, where William Wallace "apparently' captured the English garrison, imprisoned 4,000 soldiers in the chapel and burn them alive inside. I was in the chapel pictured here, it could have held maybe 500 people if you stacked them 2 deep.
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leviosaurus [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 10:39:54 AM  
Someone Else's Alt:

Dunnottar Castle, where William Wallace "apparently' captured the English garrison, imprisoned 4,000 soldiers in the chapel and burn them alive inside. I was in the chapel pictured here, it could have held maybe 500 people if you stacked them 2 deep.


Maybe people were a lot smaller back then?

/Great pictures! Thanks for sharing
 
Someone Else's Alt [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 10:50:40 AM  

leviosaurus: Someone Else's Alt:

Dunnottar Castle, where William Wallace "apparently' captured the English garrison, imprisoned 4,000 soldiers in the chapel and burn them alive inside. I was in the chapel pictured here, it could have held maybe 500 people if you stacked them 2 deep.


Maybe people were a lot smaller back then?

/Great pictures! Thanks for sharing


One of the best pictures I think I took, and I took hundreds, Kilt Falls, Isle of Skye.
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NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 10:58:53 AM  

qorkfiend: NM Volunteer: NobleHam: Well, that's certainly a story people tell, but there's not a lot of evidence that it actually happened.

Welcome to 90% of local/regional history.  Museums have a tough job trying to figure out what actually happened in history, and what was a myth invented in the past 100-150 years to make people feel better about themselves.

That's more for historians than museums.


And the average person does not read historical journals and the latest from university presses.  It's my job to bring that content to the masses.
 
Rob4127
2023-02-06 11:08:37 AM  
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PoweredByIrony
2023-02-06 11:21:48 AM  

Someone Else's Alt: leviosaurus: From the wiki page:

Serious doubts remain about the veracity of the tale; in later times a minister of Eigg stated "the less I enquired into its history ... the more I was likely to feel I knew something about it".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eigg#Massacre_and_pillage

/That's a beautiful statement. Modern political knowledge in a nutshell.

The Scots love a good mythology. My maternal grandfather migrated from Scotland in the 1930s. He had lots of great stories about the 'history' of our people and land in Scotland. I have been there a few times for work and twice for vacation as recently as last year. The highlands, Sky and the outer islands are an almost mystical place, farms and small villages, ancient castle ruins everywhere, mythical sounding places to visit like the Fairy Pool and The Fairy Glenn, which really does look like Faries still live there among the small hills.

Sorting out history from 'legend' is difficult in a place where few people knew how to read and write and clan loyalties and grudges lasted centuries even into modern times.

Picture I took of The Fairy Glenn.
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One of The Fairy Pools
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Dunnottar Castle, where William Wallace "apparently' captured the English garrison, imprisoned 4,000 soldiers in the chapel and burn them alive inside. I was in the chapel pictured here, it could have held maybe 500 people if you stacked them 2 deep.
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Those are beautiful pictures. I am simultaneously moved by urges to visit Scotland again and to replay Skyrim.
 
oldfarthenry [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 11:37:02 AM  
Here's the thing with the UK - every pub, castle, church, palace &/or outdoor privy with claim to be haunted &/or had some horrible death(s) happen within its walls.
Gotta attract those tourists with macabre folklore.
Check out our gift shop whilst you're here!
 
leviosaurus [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 11:37:56 AM  

Someone Else's Alt: leviosaurus: Someone Else's Alt:

Dunnottar Castle, where William Wallace "apparently' captured the English garrison, imprisoned 4,000 soldiers in the chapel and burn them alive inside. I was in the chapel pictured here, it could have held maybe 500 people if you stacked them 2 deep.


Maybe people were a lot smaller back then?

/Great pictures! Thanks for sharing

One of the best pictures I think I took, and I took hundreds, Kilt Falls, Isle of Skye.
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Scotland is still on my bucket list, tragically.

I once spent a month working a gig in Belfast. One weekend I was tempted to take the ferry over to spend the day in Glasgow, decided to go hiking the hills over Belfast castle instead. It was an awesome hike, but I sometimes wonder if I should've gone to Scotland and see what random adventure awaited. One of these days...
 
dk47
2023-02-06 11:44:24 AM  
At least Ronald escaped to start making burgers.
 
monkeyboycjc [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 12:02:23 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: leviosaurus: From the wiki page:

Serious doubts remain about the veracity of the tale; in later times a minister of Eigg stated "the less I enquired into its history ... the more I was likely to feel I knew something about it".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eigg#Massacre_and_pillage

/That's a beautiful statement. Modern political knowledge in a nutshell.

The Scots love a good mythology. My maternal grandfather migrated from Scotland in the 1930s. He had lots of great stories about the 'history' of our people and land in Scotland. I have been there a few times for work and twice for vacation as recently as last year. The highlands, Sky and the outer islands are an almost mystical place, farms and small villages, ancient castle ruins everywhere, mythical sounding places to visit like the Fairy Pool and The Fairy Glenn, which really does look like Faries still live there among the small hills.

Sorting out history from 'legend' is difficult in a place where few people knew how to read and write and clan loyalties and grudges lasted centuries even into modern times.

Picture I took of The Fairy Glenn.
[Fark user image 676x1500]
One of The Fairy Pools
[Fark user image 850x382]

Dunnottar Castle, where William Wallace "apparently' captured the English garrison, imprisoned 4,000 soldiers in the chapel and burn them alive inside. I was in the chapel pictured here, it could have held maybe 500 people if you stacked them 2 deep.
[Fark user image 850x383]
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Wow! Beautiful! Thanks for sharing!
 
austerity101 [BareFark]
2023-02-06 12:19:54 PM  
That's what you get when you [checks notes] throw out a bunch of strangers for raping your women...?
 
Someone Else's Alt [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 12:20:54 PM  

PoweredByIrony: Someone Else's Alt: leviosaurus: From the wiki page:

Serious doubts remain about the veracity of the tale; in later times a minister of Eigg stated "the less I enquired into its history ... the more I was likely to feel I knew something about it".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eigg#Massacre_and_pillage

/That's a beautiful statement. Modern political knowledge in a nutshell.

The Scots love a good mythology. My maternal grandfather migrated from Scotland in the 1930s. He had lots of great stories about the 'history' of our people and land in Scotland. I have been there a few times for work and twice for vacation as recently as last year. The highlands, Sky and the outer islands are an almost mystical place, farms and small villages, ancient castle ruins everywhere, mythical sounding places to visit like the Fairy Pool and The Fairy Glenn, which really does look like Faries still live there among the small hills.

Sorting out history from 'legend' is difficult in a place where few people knew how to read and write and clan loyalties and grudges lasted centuries even into modern times.

Picture I took of The Fairy Glenn.
[Fark user image 676x1500]
One of The Fairy Pools
[Fark user image 850x382]

Dunnottar Castle, where William Wallace "apparently' captured the English garrison, imprisoned 4,000 soldiers in the chapel and burn them alive inside. I was in the chapel pictured here, it could have held maybe 500 people if you stacked them 2 deep.
[Fark user image 850x383]
[Fark user image 850x415]

Those are beautiful pictures. I am simultaneously moved by urges to visit Scotland again and to replay Skyrim.


Thanks, I have lots more. The entire trip was a photographers happy place.  We did 10 days in the Highlands and Isle of Skye, staying in the small coastal towns and villages. Visited 15 castles and ruins, Dun Beag Broch and I managed to get pictures of both of the Pict stones that are on Skye.

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Man On Pink Corner
2023-02-06 12:56:21 PM  
Awesome photos.  All they need is a soundtrack:

Stolen Child - Loreena McKennitt With Description Lyrics.
Youtube izYzuG0Vh2k
 
Do you know the way to Mordor
2023-02-06 1:05:45 PM  
"The vengeful MacLeods then set this on fire, sealing the MacDonalds' fate. The thick smoke from the blaze soon filled the cave, suffocating the hundreds of people inside."

So it turns out that MacDonalds flame grill their meat?

I thought that was Burger King's thing.
 
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