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(Collider)   Remember 'Deadly Friend'? This 1980s horror film predicted some things about A.I   (collider.com) divider line
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996 clicks; posted to Entertainment » on 06 Feb 2023 at 5:45 AM (6 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2023-02-06 5:47:04 AM  
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2023-02-06 5:58:58 AM  
Never heard of it. Still scary it predicted some things.
 
2023-02-06 6:24:39 AM  
Yeah it has been a long time since I saw it AI turns a dead girl into a killer.
 
2023-02-06 7:03:39 AM  
I remember having a crush on Kristy Swanson.  Shame she became a right wing loon.
 
2023-02-06 7:10:20 AM  

CarnySaur: I remember having a crush on Kristy Swanson.  Shame she became a right wing loon.


Swanson? Isn't that one of Tucker's kinfolk?
 
2023-02-06 7:40:15 AM  

kdawg7736: Never heard of it. Still scary it predicted some things.


Wes Craven's first film following Nightmare on Elm Street. All I remember about it is it stars Albert from Little House on the Prairie who resurrects his girlfriend by placing a computer chip in her brain, and she goes on to crush Anne Ramsey's (Mama Fratelli from The Goonies) head with a basketball.
 
2023-02-06 7:45:37 AM  
I used to love it.  I had a mobile of it (from my local video store)
The only part I remember not liking was the very end which made no sense (comparatively)
 
2023-02-06 8:00:36 AM  
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2023-02-06 8:13:04 AM  
BeBe!
 
2023-02-06 8:21:35 AM  
I got a basketball signed by Kristy Swanson at a convention and she ran around showing all the other tables.  Blew my mind but she swore nobody had ever asked her to sign one before. :)
 
2023-02-06 8:23:38 AM  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Dreams_(film)
 
2023-02-06 8:55:38 AM  

snowshovel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Dreams_(film)


A much better example of AI in 80's sci-fi, in that it actually dealt with artificial intelligence and computer sentience. The protagonist used the computer's AI to write songs and design architecture.

Unless there is something I am not remembering about Deadly Friend, that one is just about a mute cyborg zombie going on a revenge rampage.
 
2023-02-06 8:58:02 AM  

groppet: Yeah it has been a long time since I saw it AI turns a dead girl into a killer.


Nono, you see AI is mysterious and dangerous!  Awooooo, its spooky!
 
2023-02-06 9:00:42 AM  

Barbwiremike: I got a basketball signed by Kristy Swanson at a convention and she ran around showing all the other tables.  Blew my mind but she swore nobody had ever asked her to sign one before. :)


Did you dribble?
 
2023-02-06 9:14:53 AM  
What was the one about the 'smart house' that held a girl prisoner and raped her to make a hybrid machine baby?
 
2023-02-06 9:16:45 AM  
ahhh...this one.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075931/
"Demon Seed"
 
2023-02-06 9:40:25 AM  
Deadly Friend: Ending
Youtube SEtGFS8In4Y
 
2023-02-06 10:05:09 AM  

optikeye: What was the one about the 'smart house' that held a girl prisoner and raped her to make a hybrid machine baby?


pretty sure we had this on VHS. it was the teenage boy & girl next door. her dad was abusive. one night he took it too far and she went down the stairs (or something) and that was that. boyfriend was a nerd geek and he brought her back to life. she became a killing machine out for vengeance.

I forgot this movie existed.
 
2023-02-06 10:38:03 AM  
In 1985 when I was a teenager, a friend of mine died in a bike accident. I had a crush on her, but never revealed my feelings (I thought I'd tell her when we were older) and her death was a horrible shock to me.

I started having nightmares about her. They were always the same: I am surprised to see her get off the school bus at school, only to realize she looks like she did after her accident. She's clearly dead, her head's bashed open, her skin is greyish, and her brain is exposed. And I notice that someone has placed a printed circuit board with some microchips and resistors on her brain, and know in that moment that someone dug up her corpse and resurrected her with some sort of technology. She approaches me, arms outstretched, and I scream in horror that my dead crush and former friend's corpse is walking toward me. I both miss her terribly, and am terrified at the abomination in front of me.

These dreams lasted for months. I was haunted by them. I went quite a while not speaking to anyone, hiding behind my hair in class, tuning out of the world as much as I could. I was in deep mourning and horrified by my dreams every night that wouldn't let me put her to rest.

I finally worked past it all. And then in 1986 this movie came out, and I saw it. The main plot point was almost exactly what I had seen in those dreams a year earlier, long before any previews or the film's release. It was like the film writer tapped into my dreams and pulled out an idea and then made a crappy movie out of it that didn't express even half of the terror I felt. But it did remind me.

So yeah, the nightmares came back. It may be the only time I got nightmares from watching a movie.
 
2023-02-06 10:42:20 AM  
I just remember it was absolutely terrible and the girl killed someone by smashing their head with a basketball.
 
2023-02-06 10:57:07 AM  
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2023-02-06 11:04:28 AM  
Are we forgetting that this movie exists?

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2023-02-06 11:17:36 AM  
It had someone from Little House on the Prairie right?

*googles it*

Yeah. I definitely saw the TV edit for this. lol
 
2023-02-06 11:20:05 AM  
Does anyone remember Brainscan?
 
2023-02-06 11:22:35 AM  

Space Station Wagon: Does anyone remember Brainscan?


Hell yeah!
 
2023-02-06 12:11:06 PM  

mrparks: CarnySaur: I remember having a crush on Kristy Swanson.  Shame she became a right wing loon.

Swanson? Isn't that one of Tucker's kinfolk?


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2023-02-06 2:13:28 PM  
You know you're trying to make a big deal out of nothing where your technofear about what nonexistent AI could do is referencing an old horror film that didn't even have a solid premise.   Seriously, the movie is about some guy literally jamming some microchips into a comatose woman's head and somehow turning her into some superpowered death cyborg for no reason.

I think these AI folks need some medication, nobody should be this afraid of something that doesn't exist.
 
2023-02-06 3:24:14 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: You know you're trying to make a big deal out of nothing where your technofear about what nonexistent AI could do is referencing an old horror film that didn't even have a solid premise.   Seriously, the movie is about some guy literally jamming some microchips into a comatose woman's head and somehow turning her into some superpowered death cyborg for no reason.

I think these AI folks need some medication, nobody should be this afraid of something that doesn't exist.


AI absolutely exists. Just not in the lazy and uncreative "Oh no, it turned bad and now it's a monster!" fashion that Hollywood always leans into. OG Star Trek (channeling Isaac Asimov's Robot stories) called out the possible dangers in a much smarter way, dramatizing how a machine will only do what it's instructed to do, and can cause a lot of problems because it doesn't actually think about the results of its actions. Its only purpose is to do the actions themselves, not consider the results.

So no, we're not going to get M3GAN. But we'll eventually have HAL. And AI will wind up killing a few people here and there not because it suddenly decided to turn malicious, but because a piece of hardware broke down or someone put a decimal point in the wrong place. In fact, it already has. Someone died during a Tesla autodriving test due to the AI mistaking a truck trailer for clear sky. AI assisted surgeries have resulted in deaths, often for making procedures take too long and putting too much strain on the patients. People have been killed on assembly lines when sensor equipment mistook them for parts that needed to be grabbed and fit into assemblies. (Yes, that's a real thing, not just a Five Nights At Freddy's idea.) But the more we automate things, the more we get used to the chance of fatalities and write them off as an infrequent and acceptable risk.

Short recap? AI is already here, it will become more omnipresent every year, and one day it might kill you but we'll shrug it off as just one of those things. It probably won't crush your head with a basketball, but might crush your head with heavy machinery by mistake. Try not to take it personally.
 
2023-02-07 12:24:02 AM  
I remember reading Wes Craven's interview in Fangoria back then that the purpose of this movie was for him to try and create a new horror character and he would then have some ownership of that character's movies. I guess he didn't get any ownership interest in the Nightmare movies and he was kind of bitter about that. But Deadly Friend was a failure, no Nightmare on Elm Street that's for sure. So Craven had to keep toiling away.
 
2023-02-07 12:54:05 AM  

Birnone: I remember reading Wes Craven's interview in Fangoria back then that the purpose of this movie was for him to try and create a new horror character and he would then have some ownership of that character's movies. I guess he didn't get any ownership interest in the Nightmare movies and he was kind of bitter about that. But Deadly Friend was a failure, no Nightmare on Elm Street that's for sure. So Craven had to keep toiling away.


He came up with Shocker for the same reason. Which was even dumber.
 
2023-02-07 7:07:14 AM  

EdgeRunner: Guntram Shatterhand: You know you're trying to make a big deal out of nothing where your technofear about what nonexistent AI could do is referencing an old horror film that didn't even have a solid premise.   Seriously, the movie is about some guy literally jamming some microchips into a comatose woman's head and somehow turning her into some superpowered death cyborg for no reason.

I think these AI folks need some medication, nobody should be this afraid of something that doesn't exist.

AI absolutely exists. Just not in the lazy and uncreative "Oh no, it turned bad and now it's a monster!" fashion that Hollywood always leans into. OG Star Trek (channeling Isaac Asimov's Robot stories) called out the possible dangers in a much smarter way, dramatizing how a machine will only do what it's instructed to do, and can cause a lot of problems because it doesn't actually think about the results of its actions. Its only purpose is to do the actions themselves, not consider the results.

So no, we're not going to get M3GAN. But we'll eventually have HAL. And AI will wind up killing a few people here and there not because it suddenly decided to turn malicious, but because a piece of hardware broke down or someone put a decimal point in the wrong place. In fact, it already has. Someone died during a Tesla autodriving test due to the AI mistaking a truck trailer for clear sky. AI assisted surgeries have resulted in deaths, often for making procedures take too long and putting too much strain on the patients. People have been killed on assembly lines when sensor equipment mistook them for parts that needed to be grabbed and fit into assemblies. (Yes, that's a real thing, not just a Five Nights At Freddy's idea.) But the more we automate things, the more we get used to the chance of fatalities and write them off as an infrequent and acceptable risk.

Short recap? AI is already here, it will become more omnipresent every year, and one day it might kill you but we'll shrug it off as just one of those things. It probably won't crush your head with a basketball, but might crush your head with heavy machinery by mistake. Try not to take it personally.


While I agree with your premise none of the things you mentioned is A.I.
 
2023-02-07 7:07:46 AM  
Is = are
 
2023-02-07 7:56:50 AM  

Space Station Wagon: While I agree with your premise none of the things you mentioned is A.I.


If you don't think self-driving cars are controlled by artificial intelligence, you're as glued to the wrong definition as Hollywood is. AI doesn't mean a sentient computer with a personality. It means a complex program that performs actions that may require decisions; an automated system that simulates a thought process but doesn't truly think. The ultimate goal is a learning machine that can convincingly fake self-awareness, but the keyword is still "artificial". Movie and TV creations like R2D2 and Data are depicted as possessing actual self-awareness which means they're truly alive, not just mimicking life, and they have actual rather than artificial intelligence. The distinction isn't merely one of mechanical versus biological brains.
 
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