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Original [TotalFark]
2023-02-05 11:16:44 PM  
Original Tweet:
 
Farking Clown Shoes [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 6:16:45 AM  
The yellow cake was a lie.
 
AdmirableSnackbar [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 6:18:54 AM  
The people who lied us into war will be held accountable any day now...
 
Jumbled
2023-02-06 6:38:13 AM  
Those were simpler times...
 
AngryTeacher
2023-02-06 6:40:21 AM  
4910? What does tha.....  Ohhhhh.....  ouch.
 
Sexy Jesus [recently expired TotalFark]
2023-02-06 6:44:49 AM  
Sunny, why do you hate our freedom? Why do you hate America?
 
theteacher [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 6:49:32 AM  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony
 
Barricaded Gunman
2023-02-06 6:51:30 AM  
What am I missing? Powell's been dead for 2 years, the anniversary of his big lie was yesterday, and I don't know what 4910 represents.
 
ThunderPelvis [OhFark]
2023-02-06 6:53:01 AM  
At least he could temporarily increase Halliburton's shareholder's value in exchange for immolating his own reputation and legacy. That's the important thing, right Colon?

/burn in hell
//say hi to Rumsfeld
 
Muta
2023-02-06 6:54:13 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: What am I missing? Powell's been dead for 2 years, the anniversary of his big lie was yesterday, and I don't know what 4910 represents.


I think the 4910 is the number of servicemen who died** because of Powel's lies.

** Saying, 'Thank you for your service', makes it better.
 
wademh
2023-02-06 6:56:22 AM  
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Dr. Nick Riviera
2023-02-06 6:59:01 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: The people who lied us into war will be held accountable any day now...


Nah, we're trying to pretend that Dubya is an elder statesman now.  Didn't you hear?  He paints, hangs out with Ellen, and thinks January 6 was bad.
 
CarnySaur [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 7:05:06 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: What am I missing? Powell's been dead for 2 years, the anniversary of his big lie was yesterday, and I don't know what 4910 represents.


I completely forgot that he died.
 
JTtheCajun
2023-02-06 7:07:25 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: What am I missing? Powell's been dead for 2 years, the anniversary of his big lie was yesterday, and I don't know what 4910 represents.


Those would be the soldiers killed in Iraq, presumably talking to him in an afterlife.

It's never a bad time to remember administrations love to gin up popular support via pretext for actions against another country. Anyway, I've got to get back to looking for more balloons...
 
mrparks
2023-02-06 7:09:07 AM  

theteacher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony


There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.
- George W. Bush, the inimitable.
 
Mad Canadian
2023-02-06 7:15:26 AM  
Wag the Dog was a documentary...
 
VisualiseThis
2023-02-06 7:17:30 AM  
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DVD
2023-02-06 7:22:43 AM  
I hear, these days from Kremlin shills in addition to others, that there was never anything in Iraq.  That the deaths of the Kurds from WMD, as an example, was an American hoax and so forth, and that the Kuwait situation never happened or was a plot or something

I suppose that the Iraqis and Americans that were suffering from chemical exposures after Gulf War 2/Iraqi Freedom were just crisis actors?

So what was the deal with UNSCOM and Saddam's people constantly throwing up time-consuming roadblocks when inspections were wanted on various sites?
 
Vlad_the_Inaner
2023-02-06 7:36:21 AM  

theteacher: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony


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Maturin [OhFark]
2023-02-06 7:37:37 AM  

Muta: Barricaded Gunman: What am I missing? Powell's been dead for 2 years, the anniversary of his big lie was yesterday, and I don't know what 4910 represents.

I think the 4910 is the number of servicemen who died** because of Powel's lies.

** Saying, 'Thank you for your service', makes it better.


And about 151,000 Iraqi's, if you only count violent deaths.
 
AdmirableSnackbar [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 7:38:11 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: AdmirableSnackbar: The people who lied us into war will be held accountable any day now...

Nah, we're trying to pretend that Dubya is an elder statesman now.  Didn't you hear?  He paints, hangs out with Ellen, and thinks January 6 was bad.


He gave Michelle Obama some candy!
 
ippolit
2023-02-06 7:39:56 AM  

VisualiseThis: [Fark user image image 330x186]


Don't drop that shiat
Pray to God, don't drop that shiat
 
The Reverend Sam Hill [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 7:41:04 AM  
4910 American troops and God alone knows how many Iraqis.
 
OhioUGrad
2023-02-06 7:45:51 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: The people who lied us into war will be held accountable any day now...


Agreed
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AdrienVeidt
2023-02-06 7:50:46 AM  
Did he ever apologize for being Cheney's tool?  I'm giving a Conservative the benefit of my doubt and assuming Powell was lied to as well, and not a deliberate liar as well.

/I know, I know; hope springs eternal
//but so does the shiat-fountain of Conservative treason
 
Great_Milenko
2023-02-06 7:56:42 AM  

DVD: So what was the deal with UNSCOM and Saddam's people constantly throwing up time-consuming roadblocks when inspections were wanted on various sites?


Ego, and the fact that he knew the US would find a way to invade no matter what was found.
 
Exile On Beale Street [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 8:04:39 AM  

ippolit: VisualiseThis: [Fark user image image 330x186]

Don't drop that shiat
Pray to God, don't drop that shiat


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A Room Full of Angry Raccoons
2023-02-06 8:05:49 AM  
Yellow Cake
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"...cradle of farkin' civilization..."
 
LesserEvil [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 8:15:20 AM  
The whole thing was handled badly, but Saddam was a mess the US created that needed to be cleaned up. There was also some funny business in the way Iraq fiddled with Kuwait's records when they invaded that country, and some tracks of the 9/11 jackasses led to dead ends there.

I think the biggest threats, in order were:

Saudi Arabia (Directly responsible for funding and fomenting) - by extension OPEC countries in the region
Afghanistan (Taliban providing explicit support for Al Qaida and Bin Laden)
Iraq (General asshattery, support, possible training, and WMD aspirations, regardless of the actual evidence)
Pakistan (Support for Taliban, Bin Laden, by elements of the Pakistani government)
Iran (fomenting extremism - mess we ultimately created by not cleaning up the mess we created with the Shah)

Not all needed to be handled with direct military intervention, but they needed to be addressed sooner, rather than later (or not at all).  Knocking the Saudis down to the ground also frees up a lot of wealth they are sitting on (or using to manipulate world politics and wasting useless developments in the desert)
 
thealgorerhythm
2023-02-06 8:17:27 AM  
So submitter is saying they're all in hell with Powell. Seems legit.
 
RubberBandMan
2023-02-06 8:41:47 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: The yellow cake was a lie.


No it's not
I made yellow cake with chocolate icing today
 
RasIanI
2023-02-06 8:50:22 AM  

AdrienVeidt: Did he ever apologize for being Cheney's tool?  I'm giving a Conservative the benefit of my doubt and assuming Powell was lied to as well, and not a deliberate liar as well.

/I know, I know; hope springs eternal
//but so does the shiat-fountain of Conservative treason


Powell was the one guy in the cabinet operating in the real-world. He understood Bush the Elder's reasoning that taking out Saddam was not included in their UN mandate, and that doing so would destabilize the Middle East region.

He finally relented rather than resign.
 
ThunderPelvis [OhFark]
2023-02-06 8:53:57 AM  
Just a reminder: U.N. inspectors had to pull out of Iraq so that we could bomb the sh*t out of it. Hussein, while an incredible piece of garbage, was fully complying with the U.N. inspection regime, but Dubya and Cheney and their slimy colonialist buddies just had way too big of a hardon for that sweet Iraqi oil. And Colon willfully participated in their obvious deceit, knowing that Americans would die on foreign soil. Whether deliberately evil or willfully stupid, his dishonor should never be forgotten.
 
Rev.K [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 9:11:33 AM  
We knew when he made that address at the UN he was lying.

It wasn't like we found out after the fact. Powell showed up with a flimsy-ass story about a bunch of mobile weapons labs that were nothing more than vehicles in the desert. The actual "evidence" he provided was diddly f*cking squat. His vial of baking powder was the big ending to ensure everyone would be scared.

There is absolutely no way a man like Powell made that address with no knowledge that some of what he was presenting was highly questionable. And that is the charitable way to put it, because if he didn't know, then you have to blame incompetence, and I don't think Powell was incompetent, which makes him complicit.

Powell may have been a respectable military man in every other way, but he participated in the bullsh*t lie to invade Iraq and that puts a lot of blood on his hands too.
 
nytmare
2023-02-06 9:13:53 AM  
The evidence was always manufactured and tenuous. A satellite image of what might be a truck that might be hauling what might be yellowcake which might be used to make weapons? Get out of here with that forced connection.
 
AdmirableSnackbar [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 9:21:44 AM  

Rev.K: Powell may have been a respectable military man in every other way


He wasn't.
 
NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 9:23:25 AM  
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There, all better now.
 
Rev.K [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 9:29:48 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Rev.K: Powell may have been a respectable military man in every other way

He wasn't.


I did say may.
 
thealgorerhythm
2023-02-06 9:37:24 AM  

Rev.K: AdmirableSnackbar: Rev.K: Powell may have been a respectable military man in every other way

He wasn't.

I did say may.


But did you say "Mai Lai"? Colin Powell's first cover-up let Cheney and Rumsfeld know they had the right guy to send to the UN.

https://www.google.com/search?&q=colin+powell+mai+lai
 
Blathering Idjut
2023-02-06 9:42:21 AM  

LesserEvil: Iraq (General asshattery, support, possible training, and WMD aspirations, regardless of the actual evidence)


You are why we can't have nice things.
 
dsmith42 [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 9:51:48 AM  

DVD: I hear, these days from Kremlin shills in addition to others, that there was never anything in Iraq.  That the deaths of the Kurds from WMD, as an example, was an American hoax and so forth, and that the Kuwait situation never happened or was a plot or something

I suppose that the Iraqis and Americans that were suffering from chemical exposures after Gulf War 2/Iraqi Freedom were just crisis actors?

So what was the deal with UNSCOM and Saddam's people constantly throwing up time-consuming roadblocks when inspections were wanted on various sites?


He thought that if his neighbors new that he didn't have any WMDs they would invade and depose him. Also worried about his internal enemies. But the UN inspectors were doing their thing right up until the "Coalition of the Willing" was about to launch their invasion. Saddam was still being obstinate about certain locations, but the inspections were happening. But the invasion had to start before it got too hot. Bush set the deadline, not the inspectors or Saddam.
 
LesserEvil [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 10:09:17 AM  

Blathering Idjut: LesserEvil: Iraq (General asshattery, support, possible training, and WMD aspirations, regardless of the actual evidence)

You are why we can't have nice things.


Meh, there WAS evidence Saddam was trying to gather WMDs... he'd used chemical weapons, had a bunch of crud stored around the country, there was also that idiotic "super gun" project. Nukes? Well, North Korea managed to develop them, and they were on terms with Iraq. All of the WMD mess was predicated on the mess the US and Saudis created in the first place, though.  Saddam was a dumbass anyway, as I recall he had a pretty big mouth back then, daring the west to attack him. He wasn't the most culpable, but he definitely contributed to a lot of the crap going on back then (and I'm talking about more than just 9/11). The administration conflated things and made him a convenient scapegoat - they made him a high priority target for the wrong reasons, instead of focusing on the bigger threats.

Tinpot despots love asymmetric weapon systems. It's the equalizer against their neighbors who are probably well armed and well supported by the civilized world precisely in response to their aspirations for domination and stealing resources by seizing territory (and killing people)

Iraq was down my list.. we probably should have stuck to agitating groups within the country to affect a regime change - but assholes like Rumsfeld had a hardon to depose Saddam and spend some of the aging munitions to reward his friends with fat replenishment contracts. Saudi Arabia was and remains the bigger threat. The Saudi royals leverage islamist extremism to distract the more dangerous fringe from becoming rebellious toward them. Unfortunately, the wealthy here in the west took wrong lessons from all that, and have weaponized christians in the form of evangelical dominionists, to turn this country into a craphole, as well.

All of that leads back to the root of the problem - the ultra-wealthy who play games with hundreds of millions of people's lives to suit their own needs.
 
Sexy Jesus [recently expired TotalFark]
2023-02-06 11:30:10 AM  

LesserEvil: Blathering Idjut: LesserEvil: Iraq (General asshattery, support, possible training, and WMD aspirations, regardless of the actual evidence)

You are why we can't have nice things.

Meh, there WAS evidence Saddam was trying to gather WMDs... he'd used chemical weapons, had a bunch of crud stored around the country, there was also that idiotic "super gun" project. Nukes? Well, North Korea managed to develop them, and they were on terms with Iraq. All of the WMD mess was predicated on the mess the US and Saudis created in the first place, though.  Saddam was a dumbass anyway, as I recall he had a pretty big mouth back then, daring the west to attack him. He wasn't the most culpable, but he definitely contributed to a lot of the crap going on back then (and I'm talking about more than just 9/11). The administration conflated things and made him a convenient scapegoat - they made him a high priority target for the wrong reasons, instead of focusing on the bigger threats.

Tinpot despots love asymmetric weapon systems. It's the equalizer against their neighbors who are probably well armed and well supported by the civilized world precisely in response to their aspirations for domination and stealing resources by seizing territory (and killing people)

Iraq was down my list.. we probably should have stuck to agitating groups within the country to affect a regime change - but assholes like Rumsfeld had a hardon to depose Saddam and spend some of the aging munitions to reward his friends with fat replenishment contracts. Saudi Arabia was and remains the bigger threat. The Saudi royals leverage islamist extremism to distract the more dangerous fringe from becoming rebellious toward them. Unfortunately, the wealthy here in the west took wrong lessons from all that, and have weaponized christians in the form of evangelical dominionists, to turn this country into a craphole, as well.

All of that leads back to the root of the problem - the ultra-wealthy who play games with hundreds of millions of people's lives to suit their own needs.


Remember Bush's first scandal, all the secret meetings with oil execs at the White House? They would never tell us what those meetings were about. Somebody FOIAd Library of Congress requests from the White House that week: nothing but maps of Iraqi oil fields. WMDs were nothing but a pretense. When the UN approved of Iraq inking oil deals with France and China Saddam was doomed, if he wasn't before. It was all bullshiat. Stop trying to re-write it.
 
AdrienVeidt
2023-02-06 1:25:05 PM  

RasIanI: AdrienVeidt: Did he ever apologize for being Cheney's tool?  I'm giving a Conservative the benefit of my doubt and assuming Powell was lied to as well, and not a deliberate liar as well.

/I know, I know; hope springs eternal
//but so does the shiat-fountain of Conservative treason

Powell was the one guy in the cabinet operating in the real-world. He understood Bush the Elder's reasoning that taking out Saddam was not included in their UN mandate, and that doing so would destabilize the Middle East region.

He finally relented rather than resign.


So, he was a punk-ass biatch with no integrity as a man or American?

/yeah, we all agree he's a Conservative.
 
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