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CarnySaur [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 7:07:33 AM  
The cops in Bristol are quick with a pistol, I guess.
 
taliesinwi
2023-02-06 7:08:22 AM  
What's the saying?  If you have a problem and call the police, now you have two problems?
 
ceejayoz [OhFark]
2023-02-06 7:08:52 AM  
"Police said there was no danger to the community..."

Oh yeah?
 
Albert911emt [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 7:11:16 AM  
Well, that'll teach suicidal people to not threaten their own lives.  If anyone's gonna get killed, the police will be the ones doing the killing.
 
alechemist [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 7:11:30 AM  
Never bring a gun to a situation where one isn't necessarily  .
 
groppet
2023-02-06 7:19:20 AM  
Well problem solved
 
payattention
2023-02-06 7:21:01 AM  
FTFA: Officials have not identified the woman or said what weapon she was armed with.

I'll just bet that they haven't. What was it, a spoon? What was she... an Amazon? The fact that they don't want to crow about the brave officer stopping a dangerous criminal is enough to tell me that this was yet another example of a police officer who has been taught that they are miniature gods and everyone should just bow to them, and if someone does not... that's a killin' offense.
 
Numberlady2
2023-02-06 7:24:58 AM  
Do they really need military grade weaponry in response to a wellness check?  This is really sick.
 
Nirbo
2023-02-06 7:25:33 AM  
"We were going to tase her, but it's so much paperwork."
 
LoneVVolf
2023-02-06 7:30:09 AM  
"According to the district attorney, the woman approached the front entryway of the home, still in possession of a weapon, and an Easton police officer, who feared for their safety, fired a single shot at the woman. "

Look at this b*tch, just walking up to the front door like she owns the place...
 
RogueWallEnthusiast [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 7:31:23 AM  
Saved her from hell due to suicide.  Well done, police!

/Heavy sarcasm
 
anuran
2023-02-06 7:31:49 AM  
She might have put a Brave Hero in danger. Best to kill her or An Officer might not Go Home at the End of the Day
 
SiotMoc
2023-02-06 7:32:24 AM  
At this point, calling the police for a wellness check should be considered attempted murder.
 
Barricaded Gunman
2023-02-06 7:33:16 AM  

ceejayoz: "Police said there was no danger to the community..."

Oh yeah?



"Police said there was they were no danger to the community..."

But they were lying.
 
maddogdelta
2023-02-06 7:33:21 AM  
When all you have is a gu, everything looks like a target.
 
Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 7:34:06 AM  
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Nana's Vibrator
2023-02-06 7:40:53 AM  

taliesinwi: What's the saying?  If you have a problem and call the police, now you have two problems?


At any point, if you're close enough, instead of making the 911 call you need to head over there yourself.  Often times your instincts were correct and a lifeless body is already in there.  But if not, you can at least do a better job of deescalating the situation.  Of course if she chased you out of the house to begin with who knows what you should do.
 
groppet
2023-02-06 7:42:58 AM  

Nirbo: "We were going to tase her, but it's so much paperwork."


Well this way they get a few paid days off while it is "investigated" and when nothing comes of it they come back and get a medal.
 
I won a math debate
2023-02-06 7:43:53 AM  

payattention: FTFA: Officials have not identified the woman or said what weapon she was armed with.

I'll just bet that they haven't. What was it, a spoon? What was she... an Amazon? The fact that they don't want to crow about the brave officer stopping a dangerous criminal is enough to tell me that this was yet another example of a police officer who has been taught that they are miniature gods and everyone should just bow to them, and if someone does not... that's a killin' offense.


Hey now, a spoon can totally be a dangerous and lethal weapon. Just ask Handsome Jack:

Handsome Jackass - A Frickin' Spoon! (Borderlands 2)
Youtube keIOYIPEzgk
 
Sam's Club Sandwich
2023-02-06 7:46:15 AM  
The government needs a special unit of doctors, psychiatrists, and other social service or health professionals trained to deal with these exact type of issues. If the situation is really bad, then get the police involved, with coordination between them about how best to approach the situation. These types of events happen because cops aren't the right types of people to be responding to situations like these. They are trained to use force and eliminate the threat, which usually leads to the situation escalating. Lives can be saved AND improved because the person might actually get the help that they need. Programs like these would need funding and I bet the government could find money in the budget for it.
It's a win/win. Enough of all these unnecessary lost lives.
 
Ragin' Asian [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 7:46:22 AM  
"A weapon".

I guess it's possible to kill someone with a spork.
 
zez
2023-02-06 7:46:26 AM  

maddogdelta: When all you have is a gu, everything looks like a target.


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Harlee [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-06 7:54:23 AM  

taliesinwi: What's the saying?  If you have a problem and call the police, now you have two problems?


Came here to say this, leaving satisfied.
 
Another Government Employee
2023-02-06 8:03:50 AM  

payattention: FTFA: Officials have not identified the woman or said what weapon she was armed with.

I'll just bet that they haven't. What was it, a spoon? What was she... an Amazon? The fact that they don't want to crow about the brave officer stopping a dangerous criminal is enough to tell me that this was yet another example of a police officer who has been taught that they are miniature gods and everyone should just bow to them, and if someone does not... that's a killin' offense.


I'll guess a knife.

A body cam would be quite useful here. If she charged? Well...
 
Nick Nostril
2023-02-06 8:04:20 AM  
Probably didn't have the $0.25 for the suicide booth, so called the cops instead.
 
TenJed_77
2023-02-06 8:04:29 AM  
ACAB
You call the police and you just have more problems.
 
drxym
2023-02-06 8:04:56 AM  
Mental health services in the US suck hard and it's no wonder so many people end up getting shot when the system abandoned them. Seen enough PoliceActivity vids to see usually the cops are just reacting correctly to a situation and will use deadly force if they think their life or someone else's is in danger.
 
Greil
2023-02-06 8:17:23 AM  
Enough of the dot damned cop speak in the articles!

A woman armed with a weapon died Sunday after a police officer fired a gun at her following a welfare check in Easton, Massachusetts, officials announced. A cop shot a mentally ill woman on Sunday.
The Bristol County District Attorney's Office confirmed it is investigating the police shooting that involved an Easton officer. Whatcha gonna do about it, punks?
According to the DA's office, an Ashland resident called 911 around 11:30 a.m. Sunday to request a well-being check for a family member who was reportedly threatening to harm herself. A terrified family member called for help, choosing the wrong service because America doesn't offer any good ones.
Easton officers responded to the Spooner Street home where the woman resided and found the 56-year-old in possession of a weapon, the district attorney said. Other residents in the home were evacuated from the house for their safety. She had a gun all right, so we treated her like an armed militant. We removed all calming presence at the scene and were presumably screaming at the top of our lungs.
The Metro-Lec regional response team was requested on scene and officials set up a perimeter around the home near Center Street. Police said there was no danger to the community but nearby residents were evacuated as a precaution while several agencies worked the scene. The article writer had a word count.
According to the district attorney, the woman approached the front entryway of the home, still in possession of a weapon, and an Easton police officer, who feared for their safety, fired a single shot at the woman. The woman tried to leave, stressed out beyond all reason. A cop saw his chance to kill someone and is retroactively justifying it with the tired fear response, despite presumably being far better trained than a suicidal, isolated woman being screamed at.
The woman remained inside the home while negotiators made several attempts to speak to her on the phone, the DA said. The SWAT team later entered the home and found the woman dead. The cops shouted at the dying woman for a while, waiting to enter with multiple fully body armored men itching to kill someone until they were sure she was dead.
Officials have not identified the woman or said what weapon she was armed with. We probably lied earlier and it was a tv remote, not a gun. The family that called us was 2 blocks down.
The officer who was involved in the shooting has been placed on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of an investigation, per department protocol. The officer's name has not been released, and the Easton Police Department said it will not be releasing any further information. We're giving the guy a few days off to get his murder sex so that when our turn comes, we're covered. No, you can't know who it was. They will be disciplined, which is to say the report we treat as a score will be written.
The Bristol County DA's Office is continuing to investigate what happened Sunday.I expect you to be OK with this.

Fixed.
 
HansoSparxx
2023-02-06 8:17:32 AM  
You only call the cops if you want someone to die...
 
Ishkur [OhFark]
2023-02-06 8:32:37 AM  
Suicide by cop is probably the best way to go.
 
Geoff Peterson [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 8:37:16 AM  

Sam's Club Sandwich: The government needs a special unit of doctors, psychiatrists, and other social service or health professionals trained to deal with these exact type of issues. If the situation is really bad, then get the police involved, with coordination between them about how best to approach the situation. These types of events happen because cops aren't the right types of people to be responding to situations like these. They are trained to use force and eliminate the threat, which usually leads to the situation escalating. Lives can be saved AND improved because the person might actually get the help that they need. Programs like these would need funding and I bet the government could find money in the budget for it.
It's a win/win. Enough of all these unnecessary lost lives.


Ya know what? If we took some funds from the Police Depts, IDK, like defund them a little, and instead used those funds for those teams instead? Sounds like a good idea! Now if we can just come up with some sort of catchy slogan to sell it to the farking rubes...
 
jmr61
2023-02-06 8:40:15 AM  

Nick Nostril: Probably didn't have the $0.25 for the suicide booth, so called the cops instead.



Maybe the "relatives" just preferred her dead instead of being a chronic pain in their asses. Problem solved.
 
Nana's Vibrator
2023-02-06 8:41:05 AM  

Ishkur: Suicide by cop is probably the best way to go.


I doubt this - unless in your suicide you wanted pain and fanfare and public outcry as a feature.
You'd have to rely on cop aim.  And just on an incident not too long ago, not too far from this incident:
Roughly 70000 cops fired 800 billion rounds each at that Boston Bomber Tsarnaev kid.  They hit him once.

So you might survive amd you might end up in a lot of pain.
 
steklo [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 8:42:18 AM  
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vilesithknight
2023-02-06 8:43:54 AM  
My senior year of high school we had emergency personal come to our high school to talk about their jobs and potentially recruit. A student asked what we should do if someone is suicidal, and surprisingly out of everyone on stage the cop answered. I'll never forget he said rather distinctly, "you call 911 & ask them to send an ambulance. A suicidal person needs medical help, not law enforcement help". And in all the years since I've wondered why that isn't the process all across the country.
 
Resident Muslim [OhFark]
2023-02-06 8:46:18 AM  
Wow, so Amy people jumping to conclusions while there hasn't been any information released.
Everyone already blaming the cops without even waiting to hear what the lady was armed with.
It could have been a gun, an AK47, a surface to air missile, we just don't know!!

/my bet is kitchen knife. That's the only reason the cops won't release The informations about the "weapon"
 
MythDragon [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 8:51:09 AM  

SiotMoc: At this point, calling the police for a wellness check should be considered attempted murder.


Had a cop come to my house when someone called in a wellness check on my crazy ex girlfriend who posted on FB about her roommate beating her up.  She moved out probably 5-6 months earlier, but never bothered to change her address with the DMV.
I was pretty nervous.  Cop stood there with his hand on his gun (which I noticed had the strap undone already). I told her she hadn't been living there in half a year.  He wanted to come in anyway and make sure. I told him no. He said "Well if she's not here as you say, then what's the big deal?"
I told him no again and told him I'd give him her address. (She had sent me some bullshiat apology card a few months prior). He still wanted my social and all my information. Said it was required.  Wouldn't leave unless I gave it to him.
 
MythDragon [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 8:52:49 AM  

Ishkur: Suicide by cop is probably the best way to go.


You get what you want, and the cop gets what he wants.  A free week of paid vacation and the best night of sex in his life. It's a win-win for everyone!
 
steklo [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 8:55:47 AM  

MythDragon: I told him no


Good for you.

There are a few good videos on Youtube about how to stand your ground when the cops show up at your door asking to come in.
 
BrerRobot
2023-02-06 8:56:14 AM  
Cops understand criminals, but they do not understand people. 
It's like hey this mental health crisis is taking too long, shoot them dead so we can go about our business.
Even in 2023 their training is subpar.

Recently got pulled over late at night.  
Cop: " Before we do this test, Do you have any physical defects I need to know about?"
Me: " Huh, physical defects?"
Cop: Do you have any physical defects. a part of your body that has a defect?
Me: " I dunno depression, anxiety, ADHD,, So I guess my brain."

-- this mofo was trained that way. The training. Do you have a physical defect versus do you have a disability? 
Police need college degrees. social work degrees.
 
robodog
2023-02-06 8:57:29 AM  

Sam's Club Sandwich: The government needs a special unit of doctors, psychiatrists, and other social service or health professionals trained to deal with these exact type of issues. If the situation is really bad, then get the police involved, with coordination between them about how best to approach the situation. These types of events happen because cops aren't the right types of people to be responding to situations like these. They are trained to use force and eliminate the threat, which usually leads to the situation escalating. Lives can be saved AND improved because the person might actually get the help that they need. Programs like these would need funding and I bet the government could find money in the budget for it.
It's a win/win. Enough of all these unnecessary lost lives.


Well, despite what the idiots on the right think that was entirely the point of the defund the police movement, take funds away from the ever more militant police and use those freed funds to hire mental health and substance abuse councilors to help deal with problems that the police are very much not the correct solution to.
 
The Exit Stencilist
2023-02-06 9:01:15 AM  

RogueWallEnthusiast: Saved her from hell due to suicide.  Well done, police!

/Heavy sarcasm


And as a bonus, she gets to go to Valhalla to feast and be killed in battle every day until Ragnarok
 
gilgigamesh
2023-02-06 9:02:13 AM  

Numberlady2: Do they really need military grade weaponry in response to a wellness check?  This is really sick.


Once again: this is what we mean by Defund the Police.  Rather than allocating millions for heavily armed XXXTREEME swat goons in military surplus tanks to show up and murder the subject of a wellness check, allocate that funding to have 911 send out trained counselors who can get the person they help they need.
 
Huntceet
2023-02-06 9:03:51 AM  
They don't say what the WEAPON was. If it was a gun they'd say it I'm sure. This is spin.
 
lilistonic [BareFark]
2023-02-06 9:07:30 AM  

Geoff Peterson: Sam's Club Sandwich: The government needs a special unit of doctors, psychiatrists, and other social service or health professionals trained to deal with these exact type of issues. If the situation is really bad, then get the police involved, with coordination between them about how best to approach the situation. These types of events happen because cops aren't the right types of people to be responding to situations like these. They are trained to use force and eliminate the threat, which usually leads to the situation escalating. Lives can be saved AND improved because the person might actually get the help that they need. Programs like these would need funding and I bet the government could find money in the budget for it.
It's a win/win. Enough of all these unnecessary lost lives.

Ya know what? If we took some funds from the Police Depts, IDK, like defund them a little, and instead used those funds for those teams instead? Sounds like a good idea! Now if we can just come up with some sort of catchy slogan to sell it to the farking rubes...


Personally, I think they should be defunded a whole lot rather than a little. But your phrase indicates why people objected to the expression "defund the police." Nothing about that suggests nuance, and nobody amended it with "a little." The term defund means literally "take it all away." It's highly disingenuous for people here to act as though that's not obvious.

We all know and agree here that there should be a way for people to call either 911 and receive help that doesn't involve these bastards, or call another number specifically for help with non-criminal situations. And yes, that would take a great deal of money that is currently spent so these cosplay monsters can rule their self-appointed kingdoms, plus planning and coordination and cooperation from local governments and a variety of agencies. I wonder if there are enough people both qualified and interested in being part of those special units. My memories of attempts like this in the past involve underfunded dreamers tilting at windmills.
 
Nana's Vibrator
2023-02-06 9:08:53 AM  

gilgigamesh: Numberlady2: Do they really need military grade weaponry in response to a wellness check?  This is really sick.

Once again: this is what we mean by Defund the Police.  Rather than allocating millions for heavily armed XXXTREEME swat goons in military surplus tanks to show up and murder the subject of a wellness check, allocate that funding to have 911 send out trained counselors who can get the person they help they need.


They probably need a little of both.  They do need a form of containment.  They're prepared for an armed person shooting out their windows in all direction or sprinting away and going on a spree.  You don't really see that anymore.  But man, postal workers and Vietnam Vets was a thing years ago.

AND you need the mental wellness aspect.  That person still needs to be trained to make contact at the risk of being shot.
 
caljar
2023-02-06 9:27:14 AM  
I am sure responding to "Crazy people with a gun" is one of the least favorite house calls a cop can make.
 
Stretchy Cat [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 9:28:08 AM  

Sam's Club Sandwich: The government needs a special unit of doctors, psychiatrists, and other social service or health professionals trained to deal with these exact type of issues. If the situation is really bad, then get the police involved, with coordination between them about how best to approach the situation. These types of events happen because cops aren't the right types of people to be responding to situations like these. They are trained to use force and eliminate the threat, which usually leads to the situation escalating. Lives can be saved AND improved because the person might actually get the help that they need. Programs like these would need funding and I bet the government could find money in the budget for it.
It's a win/win. Enough of all these unnecessary lost lives.


You'd think that money could be found, but no. We can't have nice things because no one wants to pay taxes. My mother used to be a psychiatric social worker for the state department of mental health, working on the mobile crisis unit. In situations like this, she would go out to the person in crisis (with a police officer as backup if needed) and talk them down, and get them services.

But guess what? The unit no longer exists, no funding, so now the cops just show up and shoot people. Somehow there's never any problem throwing more and more cash at the police though.
 
steklo [TotalFark]
2023-02-06 9:31:03 AM  
The solution is easy here folks. A little imagination goes a long way.

For these types of calls, Show up with a dart gun. Soon as you show up, shoot the person who's acting all wacky, they pass out, you can now place them on the stretcher, take them to a hospital for observation or if they committed a crime, take them to jail.

I also have a theory on how to solve the middle eastern crisis. Just put ecstasy into the local water drinking supply.

I'll collect my noble peace prize now.

Thanks.
 
rewind2846
2023-02-06 9:39:01 AM  
Don't call te cops unless you want someone dead.
She wanted someone dead. The cops were called. Someone died.

Seriously, isn't there a better way to deal with suicidal people than killing them?
 
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