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(The Daily Beast)   Ted Cruz is so adamant that a Constitutional amendment is needed to limit senators to two terms that he's running for a third just to talk about it   (thedailybeast.com) divider line
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2023-02-05 3:52:46 PM  
FOAD Fled Cruz.
 
2023-02-05 4:07:42 PM  
Never, ever underestimate the capacity of a Republican for cognitive dissonance.  No Republican voter in the country would give a rat's ass, as long as someone with an (R) after their name gets elected.  They're all really disciplined about that.
 
2023-02-05 4:36:50 PM  
When a Republican talks about wanting term limits they mean Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. They don't mean Chuck Grassley or Mitch McConnell or Chris Smith or Hal Rogers
 
2023-02-05 5:35:00 PM  
Term limits were important because FDR was too  popular vs his hiatler appeasing US political rivals. That made the rich very sad even to this day.
 
2023-02-05 6:19:32 PM  
Of course they'd grandfather in everyone elected before the amendment is ratified.
 
2023-02-05 6:25:35 PM  
oblig:

How does Al Franken really feel about Ted Cruz?
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2023-02-05 6:25:56 PM  
Is this where we say that all of the voters wanting term limits have the ability to vote for any non-incumbent they chose?
 
rpm
2023-02-05 7:07:30 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Never, ever underestimate the capacity of a Republican for cognitive dissonance.  No Republican voter in the country would give a rat's ass, as long as someone with an (R) after their name gets elected.  They're all really disciplined about that.


Doesn't cognitive dissonance require cognition?
 
2023-02-05 7:07:35 PM  
He should quit and focus on being a better father.
 
2023-02-05 7:08:27 PM  
Ted Cruz is the festering boil on the ass of Congress
 
2023-02-05 7:08:57 PM  
He claimed some BS about how if the rule changed he wouldn't run again afterwards, but I'd like to see him commit to quitting midterm if the rule changed.

Yah, I know...
 
2023-02-05 7:13:12 PM  

nakmuay: He should quit and focus on being a better father.


Why do you hate his family so to inflict more Ted Cruz upon them?
 
2023-02-05 7:15:10 PM  
Conservatives are for it, so I am against it. See how that works?
 
2023-02-05 7:19:09 PM  

leeksfromchichis: nakmuay: He should quit and focus on being a better father.

Why do you hate his family so to inflict more Ted Cruz upon them?


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2023-02-05 7:19:20 PM  
Republicans: party of Lie, Cheat & Steal.
Republicans = hypocrisy

Ted Cruz = republican blobfish

Any Q's?
 
2023-02-05 7:20:03 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: oblig:

[YouTube video: How does Al Franken really feel about Ted Cruz?]


I always love when he quietly says "and I hate him" and then interjects a louder tone to make sure to emphasize something and you think he'll place an exception or softener like "AND I THINK he feels the same about me" which would be par politics.

Instead Franken's more worried about what other people think of his brashness so instead he says "AND I THINK he knows that"

just gold
 
2023-02-05 7:24:55 PM  
Most laws are for people too stupid to do the right thing on their own without being told to.
 
2023-02-05 7:26:40 PM  
Appearing to do something while doing nothing. I see no reason why it can't be a federal law, though I'll admit I'm not a lawyer. He knows an amendment will never happen.
 
2023-02-05 7:26:58 PM  
Ted Cruz being a Senator IS a good argument for term limits.
 
2023-02-05 7:31:48 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Appearing to do something while doing nothing. I see no reason why it can't be a federal law, though I'll admit I'm not a lawyer. He knows an amendment will never happen.


Nvm. I just pulled my head out of my ass.
 
2023-02-05 7:35:04 PM  
Meh. Ted can FOAD, but this is no different than anyone else saying they'd like the rules to change while playing within the existing rule set. Ted is a PoS, but let's save anger for next time he actually does something awful; we shouldn't have to wait long.

/flame away
 
2023-02-05 7:38:41 PM  
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2023-02-05 7:39:28 PM  
Republicans want term limits because they know it'll hurt popular Democrats and limit their time in congress.  It'll also make it easier for outside influencers to pull their bullshiat because we won't have experienced members to call them on it.

Meanwhile the interchangeable, but still hated, republicans like Rafael Edwardo Cruz can tag in and out of office while continuing their lockstep advance towards fascism without any experienced Democrats to block them.
 
2023-02-05 7:40:16 PM  
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2023-02-05 7:40:44 PM  

TomDooley: Most laws are for people too stupid to do the right thing on their own without being told to.


so like, every business
 
2023-02-05 7:42:04 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Appearing to do something while doing nothing. I see no reason why it can't be a federal law, though I'll admit I'm not a lawyer. He knows an amendment will never happen.


The retirements to be a senator/representative/executive are set out in the constitution, so adding additional requirement such as "having not held the office for two other terms" would be ruled unconstitutional without an amendment.
 
2023-02-05 7:42:42 PM  

rpm: Benevolent Misanthrope: Never, ever underestimate the capacity of a Republican for cognitive dissonance.  No Republican voter in the country would give a rat's ass, as long as someone with an (R) after their name gets elected.  They're all really disciplined about that.

Doesn't cognitive dissonance require cognition?


yes, cognitive dissonance is the uncomfortable feeling a person gets from accepting contradictory things.

republicans don't experience cognitive dissonance because they don't care that they're full of shiat.
 
2023-02-05 7:43:29 PM  
You could fill a building with stuff Ted Cruz can't say. Oh wait, we already have, it's called a library.
 
2023-02-05 7:44:01 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Meh. Ted can FOAD, but this is no different than anyone else saying they'd like the rules to change while playing within the existing rule set. Ted is a PoS, but let's save anger for next time he actually does something awful; we shouldn't have to wait long.

/flame away


Saying you'll continue to do something because it's not illegal and in your benefit while magnanimously proclaiming it should be illegal (and knowing it never will be) says you have absolutely no sense of shame or any principles you believe in beyond blatant self-interest, and these assholes need their noses rubbed in that continuously lest we become even more numb to it
 
2023-02-05 7:47:45 PM  
Term limits would gut the government. This is what Republicans want.

Consider this: You're a young adult, age 25 or so, newly elected to Congress. Thanks to term limits, you get twelve years as a Congressperson, whether as a House member or a Senator. You spend the first couple of years learning the ropes in Congress, and the next ten years building your connections, making allies and enemies, getting on committees, and learning the wider network with lobbyists and constituents and whoever else comes to your office and town halls and other meetings.

And then you're out. Twelve years in government, a dozen years of skill-building, learning the law, and networking, only 37, and no job.

Guess who's going to be hiring you? Companies who need a lobbyiist for your particular former committes, specializations, and networks. Someone who can tell the new Congressperson you just were How It Really Is. You know exactly what to say. And you have 30 good years left in you, at least. And at a much better salary than you had in Congress.

Won't be 30 years before companies run both Houses completely, because all of the lobbyists will have more experience in government than anyone in Congress.

You think it's bad now (and it is)? You want to see complete regulatory capture in Congress? Enact term limits.
 
2023-02-05 7:52:04 PM  

Captain_Sunshine: Term limits would gut the government. This is what Republicans want.

Consider this: You're a young adult, age 25 or so, newly elected to Congress. Thanks to term limits, you get twelve years as a Congressperson, whether as a House member or a Senator. You spend the first couple of years learning the ropes in Congress, and the next ten years building your connections, making allies and enemies, getting on committees, and learning the wider network with lobbyists and constituents and whoever else comes to your office and town halls and other meetings.

And then you're out. Twelve years in government, a dozen years of skill-building, learning the law, and networking, only 37, and no job.

Guess who's going to be hiring you? Companies who need a lobbyiist for your particular former committes, specializations, and networks. Someone who can tell the new Congressperson you just were How It Really Is. You know exactly what to say. And you have 30 good years left in you, at least. And at a much better salary than you had in Congress.

Won't be 30 years before companies run both Houses completely, because all of the lobbyists will have more experience in government than anyone in Congress.

You think it's bad now (and it is)? You want to see complete regulatory capture in Congress? Enact term limits.


What if Instead of term limits, at the end of each congresspersons term they roll a d20 and on a nat1 they are immediately sacrificed to the slavering ones in the outer dark.

It would mean that only those that really believed in making a difference would be willing to represent us.

Or cultists, honestly I could see this going either way.
 
2023-02-05 7:52:55 PM  
He has a great real estate deal with all the forcefully retired Senators -- in beautiful sunny Cancun.  He's been dutifully doing research about how much he can make now and how much more if Senators are put out to pasture frequently.
 
2023-02-05 7:54:28 PM  

jook: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Meh. Ted can FOAD, but this is no different than anyone else saying they'd like the rules to change while playing within the existing rule set. Ted is a PoS, but let's save anger for next time he actually does something awful; we shouldn't have to wait long.

/flame away

Saying you'll continue to do something because it's not illegal and in your benefit while magnanimously proclaiming it should be illegal (and knowing it never will be) says you have absolutely no sense of shame or any principles you believe in beyond blatant self-interest, and these assholes need their noses rubbed in that continuously lest we become even more numb to it


I farking hate to defend Cruz, but this is the same type of argument you'd use for the Democrats gerrymandering. Giving up and letting the people enriched by the flawed rules is an endorsement for those rules, especially when it's just procedural; it's not like he's embezzling money and trying to justify it by promising to use the stolen goods to strengthen the laws.

// now of course I don't trust him at all to be saying any of this earnestly nor to genuinely be trying to champion our democracy
 
2023-02-05 7:54:58 PM  

Discord_And_Strife: Republicans want term limits because they know it'll hurt popular Democrats and limit their time in congress.  It'll also make it easier for outside influencers to pull their bullshiat because we won't have experienced members to call them on it.

Meanwhile the interchangeable, but still hated, republicans like Rafael Edwardo Cruz can tag in and out of office while continuing their lockstep advance towards fascism without any experienced Democrats to block them.


Democrats, especially farkers, clamor for term limits just as much if not more than republicans.

Although I haven't seen any farkers go quite to the extreme of only 2 terms in the senate and 3 terms in the house.  Imagine AOC having to resign at the end of this term.  Farkers would cry themselves to sleep.

Farkers only want term limits because they're ageist assholes.

/If you're good at your job, you should be able to have it as long as people are willing to vote for you to do it.
//Biden is doing a great job so I don't give a shiat he's 80.  If he sucked and was clearly slipping, I'd feel way differently.
 
2023-02-05 7:55:08 PM  
To prove that senators should be limited to two terms, we're gonna put Ted Cruz into office for three terms.
 
2023-02-05 8:02:27 PM  
No term limits, the presidental one should be repealed
 
2023-02-05 8:02:43 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Never, ever underestimate the capacity of a Republican for cognitive dissonance.  No Republican voter in the country would give a rat's ass, as long as someone with an (R) after their name gets elected.  They're all really disciplined about that.


Double think is the term you mean, cognitive dissonance is the dysphoia caused when reality slaps you in the face.
 
2023-02-05 8:02:53 PM  

Captain_Sunshine: Term limits would gut the government. This is what Republicans want.

Consider this: You're a young adult, age 25 or so, newly elected to Congress. Thanks to term limits, you get twelve years as a Congressperson, whether as a House member or a Senator. You spend the first couple of years learning the ropes in Congress, and the next ten years building your connections, making allies and enemies, getting on committees, and learning the wider network with lobbyists and constituents and whoever else comes to your office and town halls and other meetings.

And then you're out. Twelve years in government, a dozen years of skill-building, learning the law, and networking, only 37, and no job.

Guess who's going to be hiring you? Companies who need a lobbyiist for your particular former committes, specializations, and networks. Someone who can tell the new Congressperson you just were How It Really Is. You know exactly what to say. And you have 30 good years left in you, at least. And at a much better salary than you had in Congress.

Won't be 30 years before companies run both Houses completely, because all of the lobbyists will have more experience in government than anyone in Congress.

You think it's bad now (and it is)? You want to see complete regulatory capture in Congress? Enact term limits.


37 and you can become a political advisor, or ambassador, or more likely a very high paid lobbyists.

Congress was never meant to be a full time job. And it really doesn't pay that much.
 
2023-02-05 8:05:05 PM  

jook: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Meh. Ted can FOAD, but this is no different than anyone else saying they'd like the rules to change while playing within the existing rule set. Ted is a PoS, but let's save anger for next time he actually does something awful; we shouldn't have to wait long.

/flame away

Saying you'll continue to do something because it's not illegal and in your benefit while magnanimously proclaiming it should be illegal (and knowing it never will be) says you have absolutely no sense of shame or any principles you believe in beyond blatant self-interest, and these assholes need their noses rubbed in that continuously lest we become even more numb to it


No, this is the equivalent of hating the biatch for eating crackers, or the libertarian jackass popping out of the well and saying "yet you participate in society, curious".

If you believe capturing en passant in chess shouldn't be allowed, and you are a player trying to get the rule changed, not using it yourself while your opponent still can use it does nothing but put you at a disadvantage.

The Cruz thing is no different than that, or someone running their political campaign saying campaigns should be only funded by a public fund while still taking private donations. It's not hypocrisy. It's understanding that giving themselves that disadvantage will assure they never get elected to try to implement the changes they want.
 
2023-02-05 8:05:32 PM  
I remember this from college 35 years ago. If you term limit senators or representatives than the only people who have the institutional knowledge to work on long term projects are unelected civil servants. Politicians come and go but the bureaucracy keeps on chugging, especially if the powers that be are out every 12 years and someone new comes in.
 
rpm
2023-02-05 8:05:37 PM  

olorin604: It would mean that only those that really believed in making a difference would be willing to represent us.

Or cultists, honestly I could see this going either way.


So you get some Democrats and all of the Republicans. I fail to see how it changes things.
 
2023-02-05 8:06:37 PM  
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2023-02-05 8:07:05 PM  
He only "cares" about it because it became a pretty common want from voters on the right and left in recent past.  So he's "spearheading" an amendment he knows will fail to pander to them because he has nothing else.
 
2023-02-05 8:09:26 PM  
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D's tend to serve more terms than R's, on average
 
2023-02-05 8:09:58 PM  

Mukster: He claimed some BS about how if the rule changed he wouldn't run again afterwards, but I'd like to see him commit to quitting midterm if the rule changed.

Yah, I know...


Just wants to open Constitution
 
2023-02-05 8:10:52 PM  
Hmm.  My assumption was his Amendment would be "2 terms for Democrats, unlimited for Republicans ".
 
2023-02-05 8:12:06 PM  

Teddy Brosevelt: [Fark user image image 425x425]


If a King runs a kingdom and an Emperor runs an empire, who runs a country?
 
rpm
2023-02-05 8:12:32 PM  

Kris_Romm: Hmm.  My assumption was his Amendment would be "2 0 terms for Democrats, unlimited for Republicans ".


FTFY
 
2023-02-05 8:16:40 PM  
This kind of stupid "gotcha" is why I used to hate politics (and still do but now I'm kind of a politics junkie. Hypocrite!). It's just so dumb. It's not a contradiction disagree with the rules as they are while still agreeing to play by the rules as they are.
 
2023-02-05 8:19:48 PM  

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D's tend to serve more terms than R's, on average


that's nice.  politician should not be a "career" though, regardless of affiliation.

i'll go even further and state that lawyers should be barred from political office.  but, that's just my opinion though.
 
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