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2023-02-05 3:38:46 PM  
Lock him up for that time and make darn sure he never gets hold of a gun ever again.
 
2023-02-05 3:52:35 PM  
We did that as kids. Got yelled at. Threats to tell our parents. Mom grounded me.

Zero shootings though.
 
2023-02-05 4:26:14 PM  
Never bring a gun to a snowball fight.
 
2023-02-05 5:45:52 PM  
What if they were making snowballs out of a snowman?  Slowly dismembering him to throw his entrails in sadistic glee.  The lunatics.  And this good guy with a gun was trying to save his life?

I will withhold judgement before all details are released.
 
2023-02-05 5:54:33 PM  
This is what our Founding Fathers had in mind when they wrote the law

/s
 
2023-02-05 5:56:16 PM  
If you want to shoot people, do it in a state where you can claim "self-defense"
 
2023-02-05 5:58:28 PM  
Any links which aren't paywalled?
 
Xai
2023-02-05 6:04:13 PM  
I feel so safe when responsible gun owners like this have access to all the firearms they could ever want.
 
2023-02-05 6:04:29 PM  
 
2023-02-05 6:06:19 PM  
The 2nd amendment is a curse upon this country.
 
2023-02-05 6:08:07 PM  
16 years? You can kill someone with dwi and get 16 years.  (Texas)  but. You will do every single day. Apparently.
 
2023-02-05 6:08:28 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: unchellmatt: Any links which aren't paywalled?

A Man Who Shot At A Group Of Children Throwing Snowballs Will Spend 16 Years In Prison (yahoo.com)


Thanks.

Funny how the courts are fully capable of doing the sensible thing about irresponsible gun owners when they're Black.
 
2023-02-05 6:12:15 PM  
The oppressors want ubiquitous firearms ownership because it fast-tracks dumbasses into the prison-labor industry.
 
2023-02-05 6:13:07 PM  

MikeyFuccon: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: unchellmatt: Any links which aren't paywalled?

A Man Who Shot At A Group Of Children Throwing Snowballs Will Spend 16 Years In Prison (yahoo.com)

Thanks.

Funny how the courts are fully capable of doing the sensible thing about irresponsible gun owners when they're Black
.


I thought the sentence was a little stiff, myself.

Not that he shouldn't do any time (three to five, maybe?), but his life is practically over now, and he didn't kill anybody.
 
2023-02-05 6:19:11 PM  

waxbeans: 16 years? You can kill someone with dwi and get 16 years.  (Texas)  but. You will do every single day. Apparently.


In South Dakota, you can DUI, plant a disabled motorist through your windshield without realizing it, and they make you Attorney General.
 
2023-02-05 6:19:52 PM  
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2023-02-05 6:20:31 PM  
Snowballs are a deadly weapon.  They need to be registered.

https://www.nytimes.com/1973/11/10/archives/man-dies-in-snowball-attack.html
 
2023-02-05 6:21:36 PM  

edmo: We did that as kids. Got yelled at. Threats to tell our parents. Mom grounded me.

Zero shootings though.


CSB: A bunch of guys I grew up with decided to throw snowballs at cars one Saturday when we were in high school. One car circled back and the driver chased them down and cranked one of them on the head with a wrench opening up a large gash on his forehead and giving him a mild concussion. His mom called the police who came out to investigate. When told the full story of what happened the cop turned to the mom and said "Your kid got what he deserved, I'm not investigating this." and walked out.

/I wasn't present for the snow throwing or beating but I was there for the cop.
//Times have changed.
 
2023-02-05 6:22:15 PM  

Halfabee64: waxbeans: 16 years? You can kill someone with dwi and get 16 years.  (Texas)  but. You will do every single day. Apparently.

In South Dakota, you can DUI, plant a disabled motorist through your windshield without realizing it, and they make you Attorney General.


Wait. I bet the nurse that let the guy in her windshield die, is mad AF
 
2023-02-05 6:28:31 PM  
We used to throw bang snaps at cars from the woods.  Once a dude stopped and chased us into the woods.  They never found his body.
 
2023-02-05 6:30:09 PM  

Bermuda59: If you want to shoot people, do it in a state where you can claim "self-defense"


Pretty sure you can do that in Wisconsin.  The kicker is that any state that allows that specifically prohibits same for citizens as melanated as the defendant.

From the non-paywalled article linked in the comments, he was driving.  So (at least anywhere you could claim self defense) you could presumably legally roll down the window and open fire while driving (claiming that snowballs represented a lethal danger.  Probably true), but if you pulled over and opened fire the snowballs would no longer constitute a threat (not always an issue in some places.  Probably including Wisconsin).
 
2023-02-05 6:30:33 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Not that he shouldn't do any time (three to five, maybe?), but his life is practically over now, and he didn't kill anybody.


Yeah, but he did hit two of the kids, so it wasn't for lack of trying. If you think about it in terms of attempted murder, it makes more sense.

If he was just firing into the air to scare them, I could see three to five. But firing directly AT them? Well, that's more serious.
 
2023-02-05 6:30:39 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Not that he shouldn't do any time (three to five, maybe?), but his life is practically over now, and he didn't kill anybody.


That's all he'll probably do with sentencing appeals because some judge...ya know...activating...throwing the book they used to say...back when lynchings were corporately sponsored...

Wait, that's now. Point is...a judge got their rocks off, but it was to save the world before it collapses.
 
2023-02-05 6:31:58 PM  

Tyrosine: edmo: We did that as kids. Got yelled at. Threats to tell our parents. Mom grounded me.

Zero shootings though.

CSB: A bunch of guys I grew up with decided to throw snowballs at cars one Saturday when we were in high school. One car circled back and the driver chased them down and cranked one of them on the head with a wrench opening up a large gash on his forehead and giving him a mild concussion. His mom called the police who came out to investigate. When told the full story of what happened the cop turned to the mom and said "Your kid got what he deserved, I'm not investigating this." and walked out.

/I wasn't present for the snow throwing or beating but I was there for the cop.
//Times have changed.


People don't believe me but in the 1970's it was perfectly acceptable to hit other people's children.
 
2023-02-05 6:35:43 PM  

Abox: We used to throw bang snaps at cars from the woods.  Once a dude stopped and chased us into the woods.  They never found his body.


We dumped a box of them into the ventilator shaft of a tunnel under the National Mall when we were kids and heard a lot of honking.
 
2023-02-05 6:47:59 PM  
We did the snowball thing but we also ran into the back of cars, fall down and pretend to be hit. Took off when they stopped to see if we were dead. The most we got chased was when we did the purse on the fishing line trick. You put purse in the middle of the street and when the reach for it, you yank it away. This seemed piss people off the most but we did it alot. Never got caught but were chased a bunch.
 
2023-02-05 6:51:22 PM  
Any mention of mitigating factors, such as if the snowballs were in fact slush balls?
 
2023-02-05 6:55:13 PM  

Lsherm: Yeah, but he did hit two of the kids, so it wasn't for lack of trying. .


Well sure, he got lucky, but so do drunk drivers.

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If he was just firing into the air to scare them, I could see three to five

.
Well now you're just running for office.
 
2023-02-05 6:56:47 PM  
The elimination or minimization of the duty to retreat is one of the dumbest "pro gun" things ive seen in the recent past.
 
2023-02-05 6:56:50 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: MikeyFuccon: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: unchellmatt: Any links which aren't paywalled?

A Man Who Shot At A Group Of Children Throwing Snowballs Will Spend 16 Years In Prison (yahoo.com)

Thanks.

Funny how the courts are fully capable of doing the sensible thing about irresponsible gun owners when they're Black.

I thought the sentence was a little stiff, myself.

Not that he shouldn't do any time (three to five, maybe?), but his life is practically over now, and he didn't kill anybody.


What'll they come up with next, a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?
 
2023-02-05 7:01:17 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: MikeyFuccon: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: unchellmatt: Any links which aren't paywalled?

A Man Who Shot At A Group Of Children Throwing Snowballs Will Spend 16 Years In Prison (yahoo.com)

Thanks.

Funny how the courts are fully capable of doing the sensible thing about irresponsible gun owners when they're Black.

I thought the sentence was a little stiff, myself.

Not that he shouldn't do any time (three to five, maybe?), but his life is practically over now, and he didn't kill anybody.


He was trying
 
2023-02-05 7:04:50 PM  

Lsherm: Tyrosine: edmo: We did that as kids. Got yelled at. Threats to tell our parents. Mom grounded me.

Zero shootings though.

CSB: A bunch of guys I grew up with decided to throw snowballs at cars one Saturday when we were in high school. One car circled back and the driver chased them down and cranked one of them on the head with a wrench opening up a large gash on his forehead and giving him a mild concussion. His mom called the police who came out to investigate. When told the full story of what happened the cop turned to the mom and said "Your kid got what he deserved, I'm not investigating this." and walked out.

/I wasn't present for the snow throwing or beating but I was there for the cop.
//Times have changed.

People don't believe me but in the 1970's it was perfectly acceptable to hit other people's children.


i believe you because I experienced it. Not only could they hit you but when they were done  they'd drag you home to your parents who'd hit you all over again.
 
2023-02-05 7:07:20 PM  
So ... more time than people who attempted a coup are getting. Cool.
 
2023-02-05 7:13:08 PM  

Lsherm: People don't believe me but in the 1970's it was perfectly acceptable to hit other people's children.


It takes a village to administer corporal punishment until cellular video redefines what is perfectly acceptable.
 
2023-02-05 7:15:12 PM  

kdawg7736: make darn sure he never gets hold of a gun ever again.


How do you propose they do that?
 
2023-02-05 7:22:36 PM  

Tyrosine: Lsherm: Tyrosine: edmo: We did that as kids. Got yelled at. Threats to tell our parents. Mom grounded me.

Zero shootings though.

CSB: A bunch of guys I grew up with decided to throw snowballs at cars one Saturday when we were in high school. One car circled back and the driver chased them down and cranked one of them on the head with a wrench opening up a large gash on his forehead and giving him a mild concussion. His mom called the police who came out to investigate. When told the full story of what happened the cop turned to the mom and said "Your kid got what he deserved, I'm not investigating this." and walked out.

/I wasn't present for the snow throwing or beating but I was there for the cop.
//Times have changed.

People don't believe me but in the 1970's it was perfectly acceptable to hit other people's children.

i believe you because I experienced it. Not only could they hit you but when they were done  they'd drag you home to your parents who'd hit you all over again.


Can confirm.
 
2023-02-05 7:23:36 PM  
Prosecutors have said two of the children were hurt after being shot in the thigh and arm. A third child's jacket was grazed by a bullet.

Geez, dude! Warning shots are fired well over their heads.

/he should have gotten life
//and boy, they sure love kids
 
2023-02-05 7:26:12 PM  

dywed88: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: MikeyFuccon: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: unchellmatt: Any links which aren't paywalled?

A Man Who Shot At A Group Of Children Throwing Snowballs Will Spend 16 Years In Prison (yahoo.com)

Thanks.

Funny how the courts are fully capable of doing the sensible thing about irresponsible gun owners when they're Black.

I thought the sentence was a little stiff, myself.

Not that he shouldn't do any time (three to five, maybe?), but his life is practically over now, and he didn't kill anybody.

What'll they come up with next, a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?


The entire discipline owes its existence to the dead end of alchemy, so that'd be worth considering.
 
2023-02-05 7:26:29 PM  

bobtheme: What if they were making snowballs out of a snowman?  Slowly dismembering him to throw his entrails in sadistic glee.  The lunatics.  And this good guy with a gun was trying to save his life?

I will withhold judgement before all details are released.


Calvin? That you?
 
2023-02-05 7:27:48 PM  

chitownmike: kdawg7736: make darn sure he never gets hold of a gun ever again.

How do you propose they do that?


If it were me, I'd propose giving him ebola. That would probably solve the problem.
 
2023-02-05 7:29:50 PM  
They put one of yours in the snowbank, you put one of theirs in the morgue.  It's the Wisconsin way.
 
2023-02-05 7:30:06 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: MikeyFuccon: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: unchellmatt: Any links which aren't paywalled?

A Man Who Shot At A Group Of Children Throwing Snowballs Will Spend 16 Years In Prison (yahoo.com)

Thanks.

Funny how the courts are fully capable of doing the sensible thing about irresponsible gun owners when they're Black.

I thought the sentence was a little stiff, myself.

Not that he shouldn't do any time (three to five, maybe?), but his life is practically over now, and he didn't kill anybody.


Two of the kids got shot. How much of a chance do you want to give someone so lacking in impulse control they shoot kids for throwing snowballs at cars?

Or...oh, I see. If he'd been WHITE, you'd have been okay with the sentence; but since he's black, clearly he should be allowed to kill as many kids as necessary to bring the kill-count to parity before we start meting out equal jail time.
 
2023-02-05 7:33:49 PM  
How many years did the the kids get for launching a projectile at a moving car which could cause a deadly accident?
 
2023-02-05 7:34:56 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Lsherm: Yeah, but he did hit two of the kids, so it wasn't for lack of trying. .

Well sure, he got lucky, but so do drunk drivers.

.
If he was just firing into the air to scare them, I could see three to five

.
Well now you're just running for office.


Drunk drivers aren't actively trying to kill a bunch of kids. This guy was.
 
2023-02-05 7:35:40 PM  

saturn badger: Prosecutors have said two of the children were hurt after being shot in the thigh and arm. A third child's jacket was grazed by a bullet.

Geez, dude! Warning shots are fired well over their heads.

/he should have gotten life
//and boy, they sure love kids


He did fire warning shots. Just not over their heads. He fired them over their knees.
 
2023-02-05 7:44:40 PM  
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2023-02-05 7:45:11 PM  

FloriduhGuy: How many years did the the kids get for launching a projectile at a moving car which could cause a deadly accident?


Shut up. Go find a thread about immigrants to pollute.
 
2023-02-05 7:51:14 PM  
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2023-02-05 7:52:10 PM  
I bet that's the last time they throw snowballs at cars.
 
2023-02-05 7:52:27 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Two of the kids got shot. How much of a chance do you want to give someone so lacking in impulse control they shoot kids for throwing snowballs at cars?


Your Honor, my client has repeatedly expressed his remorse to the children, their families and to the State of Wisconsin.

He looks forward to any and all anger management programs the court recommends, and he has already set up a trust for the benefit of the children's education.

It's in light of that, Your Honor that we ask for an abbreviated sentence, so that he can productively rejoin society in as timely a manner as possible.
 
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