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Pocket Ninja [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-05 9:46:37 AM  
The announcement opened a new front in a dispute with the Bushy Run Battlefield Heritage Society, which said it would have to cancel a battlefield re-enactment it has put on every August for the past 40 years...."This is not just a pretend weekend," said Rob Malley, a board member of the local group, which touts the educational value of the event. "If this all stands, we have to reinvent ourselves."

You'll have to reinvent yourselves? It doesn't sound like you've invented yourself at all. You're just re-enacting the same centuries-old battle over and over again. And it probably ends the same way every time. Just take up LARPing. It's the same damn thing and at least you'll get some variety.
 
WickerNipple [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-05 9:53:51 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Just take up LARPing. It's the same damn thing and at least you'll get some variety.


There is no farking way LARPers will they them fly their confederate flags.
 
vudukungfu [TotalFark]
2023-02-05 10:52:22 AM  
They stand and fire black powder muskets, but a real reenactment would have huge cannon explosions, and chunks of horses flying through the air. Streams of blood. Screams you can't stop hearing. The stench of gangrene. The air full of smoke and flint. Panic, fear, and mad hatred. The sklitching of bayonettes penetrating the dying, not as a merciful end, but to inflict more pain and suffering in a fit of trauma and revenge. Real battle is horrific. It is madness and confusion. It is not a spectator sport, although they did bring picnic lunches out in buggies to watch back then. Where are those reenacators?
 
Squid_for_Brains [TotalFark]
2023-02-05 12:18:40 PM  

vudukungfu: They stand and fire black powder muskets, but a real reenactment would have huge cannon explosions, and chunks of horses flying through the air. Streams of blood. Screams you can't stop hearing. The stench of gangrene. The air full of smoke and flint. Panic, fear, and mad hatred. The sklitching of bayonettes penetrating the dying, not as a merciful end, but to inflict more pain and suffering in a fit of trauma and revenge. Real battle is horrific. It is madness and confusion. It is not a spectator sport, although they did bring picnic lunches out in buggies to watch back then. Where are those reenacators?


All over the place.  Some of them are over there, and a piece of one is over there, and a few bits landed over there...
 
edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-05 12:34:08 PM  
I'm still bummed me and my Cold War buds aren't allowed to set off nukes at our get-togethers. Spoilsports.
 
WyDave
2023-02-05 12:55:28 PM  

edmo: I'm still bummed me and my Cold War buds aren't allowed to set off nukes at our get-togethers. Spoilsports.


Well, yeah. That wouldn't be authentic. Unless you're reenacting nuke testing.
 
dywed88
2023-02-05 12:58:42 PM  
Last May, dozens of people in Maine protested Civil War re-enactors carrying Confederate flags in a Memorial Day parade.

What the fark? I can understand acting as Confederates to put on a show. But why the fark would you do so in a Memorial Day parade?
 
Trocadero
2023-02-05 1:00:47 PM  

WyDave: edmo: I'm still bummed me and my Cold War buds aren't allowed to set off nukes at our get-togethers. Spoilsports.

Well, yeah. That wouldn't be authentic. Unless you're reenacting nuke testing.


You know what would be authentic? My Lai.
 
big pig peaches
2023-02-05 1:00:59 PM  

Pocket Ninja: The announcement opened a new front in a dispute with the Bushy Run Battlefield Heritage Society, which said it would have to cancel a battlefield re-enactment it has put on every August for the past 40 years...."This is not just a pretend weekend," said Rob Malley, a board member of the local group, which touts the educational value of the event. "If this all stands, we have to reinvent ourselves."

You'll have to reinvent yourselves? It doesn't sound like you've invented yourself at all. You're just re-enacting the same centuries-old battle over and over again. And it probably ends the same way every time. Just take up LARPing. It's the same damn thing and at least you'll get some variety.


Under the rules,. LARPing isn't allowed either.
 
Trocadero
2023-02-05 1:01:31 PM  

dywed88: Last May, dozens of people in Maine protested Civil War re-enactors carrying Confederate flags in a Memorial Day parade.

What the fark? I can understand acting as Confederates to put on a show. But why the fark would you do so in a Memorial Day parade?


To be fair, in order to even have a Memorial Day, you needed the Confederates to slaughter a lot of people.
 
hlehmann
2023-02-05 1:03:13 PM  
When my kids were in Boy Scouts our district would sometimes bring in Civil War reenactments to the spring jamboree.  I think those were really cool.  There wasn't any hand-to-hand fighting, but they shot black powder rifles at the opposing side, they had horses, and an Abe Lincoln impersonator giving the Gettysburg Address, and a medics tent complete with bloody sawed off arms (made of rubber, of course), and cannons that set off car alarms when they fired.  They had a little gift shop where I bought my kids their first real cap gun with those red rolls of caps that I hadn't seen since I was a kid.

I think it was a valuable experience.
 
DarnoKonrad
2023-02-05 1:06:11 PM  
Museum Fremen
 
replacementcool
2023-02-05 1:08:11 PM  
"This is not just a pretend weekend," said Rob Malley, a board member of the local group, which touts the educational value of the event. "If this all stands, we have to reinvent ourselves."


you are grown men playing dressup. You're not doing anything educational.
 
DarnoKonrad
2023-02-05 1:09:11 PM  

edmo: I'm still bummed me and my Cold War buds aren't allowed to set off nukes at our get-togethers. Spoilsports.


to be fair, not everyone is into sitting in a bunker and pretending to answer phones
 
scruffythecat
2023-02-05 1:14:16 PM  
Now everyone on both sides gets a gold star.
 
Turbo Cojones
2023-02-05 1:19:36 PM  
Do they get veteran discounts when they show up at Waffle House in sedition uniform?
 
Jairzinho
2023-02-05 1:20:19 PM  

dywed88: Last May, dozens of people in Maine protested Civil War re-enactors carrying Confederate flags in a Memorial Day parade.

What the fark? I can understand acting as Confederates to put on a show. But why the fark would you do so in a Memorial Day parade?


This.
I've never seen D-day anniversaries with people flying swastikas.

We have to stop pretending that the Civil War was about two good sides from our beloved ancestors with just different opinions. No, one were racists traitors, the other were heroes defending the nation.
 
farkitallletitend
2023-02-05 1:21:35 PM  

hlehmann: When my kids were in Boy Scouts our district would sometimes bring in Civil War reenactments to the spring jamboree.  I think those were really cool.  There wasn't any hand-to-hand fighting, but they shot black powder rifles at the opposing side, they had horses, and an Abe Lincoln impersonator giving the Gettysburg Address, and a medics tent complete with bloody sawed off arms (made of rubber, of course), and cannons that set off car alarms when they fired.  They had a little gift shop where I bought my kids their first real cap gun with those red rolls of caps that I hadn't seen since I was a kid.

I think it was a valuable experience.


I can see the attraction for a child.
 
shinji3i
2023-02-05 1:22:14 PM  

Hinged: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book burned or rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue has been removed and every street building, military base, ship and sports team have been renamed, every date has been altered and every historical reenactment erased. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute."  -1984 (edited by Hinged)


/not far from the truth


"Us not being able to play dress up on government property is just the same as books being rewritten!"

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Red Shirt Blues
2023-02-05 1:24:23 PM  

Hinged: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book burned or rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue has been removed and every street building, military base, ship and sports team have been renamed, every date has been altered and every historical reenactment erased. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute."  -1984 (edited by Hinged)


/not far from the truth


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Emma will save us.
 
ArcadianRefugee
2023-02-05 1:27:36 PM  
...will no longer permit re-enactments on the 23 sites it owns in the state that involve the exchange of fire from weapons, the taking of casualties and hand-to-hand combat, "or any other form of simulated warfare or violence between opposing forces."

So, no more playing League of Legends on your iPad while there, huh?
 
stuffy
2023-02-05 1:31:54 PM  
Next up, No more violence in movies. Stupid one here is the Parks.
 
mongbiohazard
2023-02-05 1:32:33 PM  

WickerNipple: Pocket Ninja: Just take up LARPing. It's the same damn thing and at least you'll get some variety.

There is no farking way LARPers will they them fly their confederate flags.


OK, but what if we let them LARP at enslaving the Drow?
 
Subtonic
2023-02-05 1:33:24 PM  
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There's already plenty of space for this in Adams County. Play soldier there.
 
dywed88
2023-02-05 1:34:07 PM  

Hinged: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book burned or rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue has been removed and every street building, military base, ship and sports team have been renamed, every date has been altered and every historical reenactment erased. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute."  -1984 (edited by Hinged)


/not far from the truth


Which is why we need to be actively destroying the crap erected by the Confederates and the scions in order to bring real history back to the forefront.
 
Sexy Jesus [recently expired TotalFark]
2023-02-05 1:34:36 PM  
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Gentlemen, you can't fight here, this is a battlefield.
 
ArcadianRefugee
2023-02-05 1:38:19 PM  

Hinged: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book burned or rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue has been removed and every street building, military base, ship and sports team have been renamed, every date has been altered and every historical reenactment erased. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute."  -1984 (edited by Hinged)


/not far from the truth


Here, have some semi-colons:

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Johnson [BareFark]
2023-02-05 1:40:49 PM  
How long will it be until there are Jan 6 Re-enactments?
 
mongbiohazard
2023-02-05 1:43:16 PM  

stuffy: Next up, No more violence in movies. Stupid one here is the Parks.


The issue here is the use of public land.

In your analogy, Confederacy cosplayers have been forcing themselves and their cosplay battles into public broadcasts - incurring public costs and etc.. And the government is saying, "Hey, if you wanna broadcast your hobby find your own airtime to do it on, stop taking away the public's."
 
Another Government Employee
2023-02-05 1:47:19 PM  

dywed88: Hinged: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book burned or rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue has been removed and every street building, military base, ship and sports team have been renamed, every date has been altered and every historical reenactment erased. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute."  -1984 (edited by Hinged)


/not far from the truth

Which is why we need to be actively destroying the crap erected by the Confederates and the scions in order to bring real history back to the forefront.


The group in TFA is doing a pre-Revolutionary battle.

But I get it. I used to go to the Reenactments at Kennesaw Mountain back when they still did black powder. The fascinating part was to see how Sherman's updated troop movements eventually broke the Confederates' position. Now, it is mostly a static display of field hospitals and marches.
 
ISO15693
2023-02-05 1:53:19 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Hinged: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book burned or rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue has been removed and every street building, military base, ship and sports team have been renamed, every date has been altered and every historical reenactment erased. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute."  -1984 (edited by Hinged)


/not far from the truth

Here, have some semi-colons:

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Just fyi, those aren't semicolons
 
Rusty Shackleford [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-05 1:53:47 PM  
I worked with some really great volunteer re-enactors over the years. They were the right age, did their research thoroughly and had great enthusiasm.

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They once did the Canadian MacKenzie-Papineau Battalion of the Spanish Civil War, and I was able to source an original 1930s leaflet for them to give out. Produced by the Communist Party of Canada, it gave me great pleasure to print up a bunch on a government copier for the group to give out to the public.

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Trocadero
2023-02-05 1:59:18 PM  

Johnson: How long will it be until there are Jan 6 Re-enactments?


Two years.

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ArcadianRefugee
2023-02-05 2:04:25 PM  

ISO15693: ArcadianRefugee: Hinged: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book burned or rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue has been removed and every street building, military base, ship and sports team have been renamed, every date has been altered and every historical reenactment erased. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute."  -1984 (edited by Hinged)


/not far from the truth

Here, have some semi-colons:

: : : : : : : : : : : : :

Just fyi, those aren't semicolons


Hurm.  Shift key....
 
ArcadianRefugee
2023-02-05 2:05:12 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: ISO15693: ArcadianRefugee: Hinged: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book burned or rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue has been removed and every street building, military base, ship and sports team have been renamed, every date has been altered and every historical reenactment erased. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute."  -1984 (edited by Hinged)


/not far from the truth

Here, have some semi-colons:

: : : : : : : : : : : : :

Just fyi, those aren't semicolons

Hurm.  Shift key....


Semi-semicolons?
 
saturn badger [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-05 2:08:30 PM  

Pocket Ninja: The announcement opened a new front in a dispute with the Bushy Run Battlefield Heritage Society, which said it would have to cancel a battlefield re-enactment it has put on every August for the past 40 years...."This is not just a pretend weekend," said Rob Malley, a board member of the local group, which touts the educational value of the event. "If this all stands, we have to reinvent ourselves."

You'll have to reinvent yourselves? It doesn't sound like you've invented yourself at all. You're just re-enacting the same centuries-old battle over and over again. And it probably ends the same way every time. Just take up LARPing. It's the same damn thing and at least you'll get some variety.


Out here in sunny CA they used to have these. The winner was decided by a coin toss before the battle. Since we never had any battles here it is not historically accurate anyway.
 
OgreMagi
2023-02-05 2:15:19 PM  
The movie Gettysburg was made possible because of 13,000 re-enactors.  They supplied their own costumes and equipment and their devotion to historical accuracy far exceeded anything Hollywood would attempt.
 
johnny_stingray
2023-02-05 2:15:49 PM  
Always wanted to show up at one of these re-enactments with a band of berserk Vikings.
Or maybe a Mongol Horde.
 
ParallelUniverseParking [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-05 2:24:04 PM  
Nice headline, i chuckled
+1
 
saturn badger [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-05 2:34:05 PM  

OgreMagi: The movie Gettysburg was made possible because of 13,000 re-enactors.  They supplied their own costumes and equipment and their devotion to historical accuracy far exceeded anything Hollywood would attempt.


Now they can just use CGI like LoTR and every other movie.
 
bzdrummer
2023-02-05 2:44:47 PM  
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zbtop
2023-02-05 2:57:09 PM  
Reenactments are a dying Boomer pastime.

Even for the movie Gettysburg (setting aside the awful script and cringe inducing dialogue) nearly 30 years ago when this thing was at its peak, most of the reenactors were twice the age of the actual soldiers who would have been present in the 1860s.

These events have as much to do with history as playing Warthunder or Call of Duty does.
 
replacementcool
2023-02-05 3:03:50 PM  

johnny_stingray: Always wanted to show up at one of these re-enactments with a band of berserk Vikings.
Or maybe a Mongol Horde.


these black guys showing up at a reenactment wanting to participate was farking hilarious

They Kicked Us Out For This!
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runwiz [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-05 3:43:08 PM  
They won't be able to re-enact their childhood of playing soldier. It's one thing to do reenacting as living history to teach and explain, it's another to play pretend war.
 
morg
2023-02-05 4:14:16 PM  
This seems like something that could be resolved with a few well placed LIGHTNING BOLTs
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SimonElectric
2023-02-05 4:23:45 PM  
Why research and have lectures about the participants, causes, and consequences of the war when you can play dress up.

History is hard, let's go LARPing.

/I'd do it, but only CW reenactment if I get to play the Johnny Reb who stone killed Stonewall Jackson.  In a war filled with death and destruction, you need to see the comedy.
 
Sexy Jesus [recently expired TotalFark]
2023-02-05 5:33:54 PM  
You want to reenact the Confederacy, it has to include a lot of shoeless forced marching.
 
scanman61
2023-02-05 6:15:06 PM  

Hinged: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book burned or rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue has been removed and every street building, military base, ship and sports team have been renamed, every date has been altered and every historical reenactment erased. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute."  -1984 (edited by Hinged)


/not far from the truth


That could be even more fun than a Fark Photoshop contest.....an "edited by Hinged" contest
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-02-05 6:35:23 PM  
Oh goodness, they're being forced to do proper living history and not farby tacticals.  Just like what the National Park Service and state historical sites here in New Mexico do.  Set up camp, hold morning and evening parades, do daily life activities as the soldiers and civilians did back then, interact with tourists and visitors.  Firing demonstrations that are actually educational, and no slamming of stocks against the ground because of the misfires because those jokers don't draw rammers.  What a horrifying future for farbs.  Forced to actually give a shiat about history beyond tacticals.
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2023-02-05 6:54:51 PM  

zbtop: Reenactments are a dying Boomer pastime.


Which is fine.  We need more National Park Service style living history events, not privately run reenactments.
 
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