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(NBC News)   Why drink coffee to wake up, when you can just get electric shock therapy instead?   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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mononymous
2023-02-05 12:05:44 PM  
What could possibly go wrong?

Remember when radioactive medicine was all the rage?

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Pepperidge Farm remembers.
 
Mad-n-FL
2023-02-05 12:14:26 PM  
I pit my tongue...
 
lilbjorn
2023-02-05 12:17:25 PM  
A headline that ends in a question?

No.
 
jdlenke
2023-02-05 12:22:15 PM  
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TofuTheAlmighty [BareFark]
2023-02-05 12:25:46 PM  
Not impressed:

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mistahtom
2023-02-05 12:43:35 PM  
This is just a gateway into electronic mind control devices.

Don't consume processed foods and added sugar and you'll be better off.

Tinfoil hats are a conspiracy by the aluminum lobby to trick the mentally ill into buying their products.
 
hoyt clagwell [OhFark]
2023-02-05 12:55:56 PM  
Definitely not "electric shock therapy", subby.  ECT (electroconvulsive therapy) induces a seizure, which dumps massive amounts of neurotransmitters into the brain's synapses, improving certain psychiatric and neurological diseases.  That seizure frequently leaves a patient very sleepy for several hours aka the postictal state.
 
Quantumbunny
2023-02-05 1:08:38 PM  

mononymous: What could possibly go wrong?

Remember when radioactive medicine was all the rage?

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Pepperidge Farm remembers.


The first part of the headline there is still the primary way we treat cancer. We are just slightly better at targeting the cancer with radiation.
 
mongbiohazard
2023-02-05 1:37:44 PM  
Unless you can precisely control the current on a cell by cell basis - crudely forcing electrical current through the most advanced known computing device in the universe, made from organic materials, is a stupid farking idea.
 
Tom Marvolo Bombadil
2023-02-05 1:37:56 PM  
The first draft storyboards for The Matrix are pretty funny

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Tom Marvolo Bombadil
2023-02-05 1:40:21 PM  

mongbiohazard: Unless you can precisely control the current on a cell by cell basis - crudely forcing electrical current through the most advanced known computing device in the universe, made from organic materials, is a stupid farking idea.


Doesn't mean it can't work.  Taking poop out of one person's butt and putting it in another person's butt is a stupid idea, but it's great at treating some c. difficile infections.
 
Toxophil
2023-02-05 1:44:54 PM  
Friend of a friend was an auto mechanic. Would touch both poles of a batery to wake himself up in the morning.
 
mongbiohazard
2023-02-05 1:46:33 PM  

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: mongbiohazard: Unless you can precisely control the current on a cell by cell basis - crudely forcing electrical current through the most advanced known computing device in the universe, made from organic materials, is a stupid farking idea.

Doesn't mean it can't work.  Taking poop out of one person's butt and putting it in another person's butt is a stupid idea, but it's great at treating some c. difficile infections.


Seeding a microbiome with a sample from a healthier one isn't a stupid idea.

Treating the human brain like a farking car battery is.
 
WeedBong420
2023-02-05 1:46:44 PM  
Why drink coffee when you can plug Adderall?
 
X-Geek
2023-02-05 1:47:56 PM  
It's been tried... with mixed results.
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Tom Marvolo Bombadil
2023-02-05 1:54:54 PM  

mongbiohazard: Tom Marvolo Bombadil: mongbiohazard: Unless you can precisely control the current on a cell by cell basis - crudely forcing electrical current through the most advanced known computing device in the universe, made from organic materials, is a stupid farking idea.

Doesn't mean it can't work.  Taking poop out of one person's butt and putting it in another person's butt is a stupid idea, but it's great at treating some c. difficile infections.

Seeding a microbiome with a sample from a healthier one isn't a stupid idea.

Treating the human brain like a farking car battery is.


Some self-regulating systems won't reset on their own in slightly perturbed states.  Perturb them more and you might trigger a reset.  Perhaps not the best solution, but as you mentioned the brain is complicated and you must start with what you can.

/drtfa
 
Diagonal [TotalFark]
2023-02-05 1:55:18 PM  
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Quantumbunny
2023-02-05 1:59:37 PM  

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: mongbiohazard: Unless you can precisely control the current on a cell by cell basis - crudely forcing electrical current through the most advanced known computing device in the universe, made from organic materials, is a stupid farking idea.

Doesn't mean it can't work.  Taking poop out of one person's butt and putting it in another person's butt is a stupid idea, but it's great at treating some c. difficile infections.


Injecting radiation into your body also seems like a terrible idea. But you can't learn to target it, before you start trying it.

Ingesting moldy stuff sounds like a terrible idea. So does purposely rubbing puss or other wound discharge on yourself.

Add just a bit of science behind it, and direct it slightly and suddenly you have penicillin, and vaccines.

It's weird how cutting out context and making it seem completely haphazard instead of just a bit more guidance behind it can make most of medicine sound completely insane. Also, just how far desperation can carry people to go. I'm not espousing everyone taking all medical care into their own hands, but there's small enough shocks don't seem more outlandish than lots of self medication to me.
 
Gassy Snake
2023-02-05 2:04:13 PM  
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Dr Dreidel
2023-02-05 2:12:31 PM  

mongbiohazard: Unless you can precisely control the current on a cell by cell basis - crudely forcing electrical current through the most advanced known computing device in the universe, made from organic materials, is a stupid farking idea.


Tell that to patients who have had their epilepsy, severe (or treatment-resistant) depression, mania, catatonia, or dementia-related aggression treated with ECT. I think they're also starting to use it in treating Parkinson's and other degenerative brain conditions.

It's not "hit him again, Endo" or the Nurse Ratched kind of electroshock therapy you're thinking of from 60 years ago - this is FAR more targeted (IIRC they don't shock your whole brain, and do try to localize it. Maybe only in certain cases, like for epilepsy?), and the voltage (or amperage, or whatever) is much lower.

Your brain runs on electricity. When it's not running right, sometimes you need more electricity applied judiciously.

// your heart also runs on electricity, and we shock hearts back into healthy rhythms all the time
// the principle is the same, even though the meat is different
// not actually a doctor
 
casey17 [TotalFark]
2023-02-05 2:17:25 PM  
My bf had a malformed clump of blood vessels removed from his brain a couple of years ago. He still gets pretty bad vertigo & headaches, but he uses Cefaly and it seems to work well for him.
 
pjbreeze
2023-02-05 2:52:51 PM  
I like to get my electric shocks in the shower with my hair dryer
 
Black_Lazerus
2023-02-05 3:08:17 PM  
Ask Louis wu the effects of putting electricity into your brain.
 
skyotter
2023-02-05 3:31:50 PM  
Real Genius up the voltage
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gameshowhost [OhFark]
2023-02-05 4:18:37 PM  
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2023-02-05 5:03:06 PM  
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Needlessly Complicated [TotalFark]
2023-02-05 5:07:32 PM  

Dr Dreidel: mongbiohazard: Unless you can precisely control the current on a cell by cell basis - crudely forcing electrical current through the most advanced known computing device in the universe, made from organic materials, is a stupid farking idea.

Tell that to patients who have had their epilepsy, severe (or treatment-resistant) depression, mania, catatonia, or dementia-related aggression treated with ECT. I think they're also starting to use it in treating Parkinson's and other degenerative brain conditions.


Agreed, but I don't think it should be a DIY situation....
 
chitownmike
2023-02-05 6:09:59 PM  

mongbiohazard: Tom Marvolo Bombadil: mongbiohazard: Unless you can precisely control the current on a cell by cell basis - crudely forcing electrical current through the most advanced known computing device in the universe, made from organic materials, is a stupid farking idea.

Doesn't mean it can't work.  Taking poop out of one person's butt and putting it in another person's butt is a stupid idea, but it's great at treating some c. difficile infections.

Seeding a microbiome with a sample from a healthier one isn't a stupid idea.

Treating the human brain like a farking car battery is.


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johnphantom
2023-02-05 8:33:40 PM  
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You really should watch this if you haven't.
 
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