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(Some Researcher)   The Canadian truck convoy was a Russian psyop. Because of course it was   (newsie.social) divider line
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SpaceyCat [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 6:14:27 PM  
You're just figuring this out now, subby?
 
gopher321 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 7:48:11 PM  
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make me some tea [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 8:33:42 PM  
I'm not surprised at all, but it's definitely interesting to see the actual data on this

Weaponized MAGA is an asset to our adversaries and an active threat to national security, and even foreign policy for the United States at this point.

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monsatano [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 8:38:39 PM  
Conservatives are stupid enough to fall for russian propaganda. Film at 11.
 
wademh
2023-02-04 8:39:17 PM  
They never could articulate a coherent message other than being upset about stuff and things and such.
Maybe a few asides about  "in these troubling times" and "the way things are today".
 
ChimpMitten
2023-02-04 8:40:33 PM  
More like Cana-duh, am I right?
 
BMFPitt
2023-02-04 8:42:35 PM  

make me some tea: I'm not surprised at all, but it's definitely interesting to see the actual data on this

Weaponized MAGA is an asset to our adversaries and an active threat to national security, and even foreign policy for the United States at this point.

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At this point???
 
Glicky
2023-02-04 8:44:44 PM  

monsatano: Conservatives are stupid enough to fall for russian propaganda. Film at 11.


I think that Russian propaganda furthers the goals of the GOP which is destabilization of the current president.
 
Wobambo
2023-02-04 8:45:10 PM  
Too late. The weirdo trucker propaganda has already convinced me that truckers deserve more thanks for their service than any soldier and that I should consult them for all political and medical advice.
 
TomDooley
2023-02-04 8:45:40 PM  
Fake News from the Libs.  Probably funded by Soros.  It's right there in the URL:
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Carter Pewterschmidt [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 8:46:42 PM  
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As a Brit I'd love to see someone look into the whole Boris Johnson "partygate" thing. He had a drink at work, in the office, with only people who would have been in the office anyway, no outside guests, no mixing, certainly nothing anyone would ever call "a party" yet that stayed in the media headlines for months here.

At a time when Boris Johnson was leading the way supporting Ukraine, putting pressure on other leaders to support Ukraine, apply sanctions etc. It was Boris leading the call to expel Russia from Swift. It was Boris who had warned Germany that becoming reliant on Russian oil would end in tears, it was Boris supplying weapons and training to Ukraine long before the actual invasion etc.

Putin certainly has a huge amount to gain if Boris was forced out. And a minor "scandal" was endlessly pushed online and in the media for months.

Coincidence?

"fracture western societies & promote civil unrest"?  Well forcing out a democratically elected leader who was leading the way supporting Ukraine certainly fits the bill.

/Of course many Farkers are going to dismiss this, because they wanted Boris gone and don't want to face the possibility that they were duped by Putin's propaganda. That they're just as gullible and easily manipulated as the people they mock.
 
Unknown_Poltroon
2023-02-04 8:47:10 PM  
Duh??

IT was funded and run by the alt right, its Russia all the way down to the bedrock of Nazi shiat.
 
Naido [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 8:47:29 PM  
Are we really still doing this shiat?

From TFA,

So what does this all mean? Well, for one thing, as I noted in the paper, it does NOT mean that Russia was behind the truck convoy. The convoy was a homegrown movement - an extension of anti-lockdown/anti-vaccine protests

"Russian psyop" now means that RT noticed something and covered it.  Virtually everything in this thread would only influence a person who was already watching RT.  Oh, but this:

Another notable trend: When RT's coverage drops off, Fox News' coverage starts to sharply increase, almost like the two outlets are in a symbiotic relationship.

See, if their timing doesn't align, that means there's a symbiotic relationship.  If their timing were to actually align, it's obvious what that would mean, right?

The only people being influenced are the people who are already watching them, because those people already belong to the audience that the outlet caters to.

This was fun:

Similarly, the keyword "nazi" only appeared when RT's coverage was included.

Really?  I seem to remember that word coming up a lot after the appearance of a certain flag drew some attention?  I guess it was just RT covering that.
 
Kumana Wanalaia
2023-02-04 8:48:43 PM  
check their basements and hard drives
 
Don't Lag Me Bro
2023-02-04 8:52:03 PM  

wademh: They never could articulate a coherent message other than being upset about stuff and things and such.
Maybe a few asides about  "in these troubling times" and "the way things are today".


Yah. The use of the Emergency Act to freeze the foreign money coming in to fund the protest was one of its most important uses. Anyone will protest if they are being payed bigly to do it.
 
Eddie Barzoom
2023-02-04 8:53:10 PM  

Naido: The only people being influenced are the people who are already watching them, because those people already belong to the audience that the outlet caters to.


Remind me again who reads and shares RT articles in the west - oh yeah, conservatives. Just because they are willing dupes doesn't mean they're not dupes.
 
Discordulator
2023-02-04 8:57:03 PM  

Naido: Are we really still doing this shiat?

From TFA,

So what does this all mean? Well, for one thing, as I noted in the paper, it does NOT mean that Russia was behind the truck convoy. The convoy was a homegrown movement - an extension of anti-lockdown/anti-vaccine protests

"Russian psyop" now means that RT noticed something and covered it.  Virtually everything in this thread would only influence a person who was already watching RT.  Oh, but this:

Another notable trend: When RT's coverage drops off, Fox News' coverage starts to sharply increase, almost like the two outlets are in a symbiotic relationship.

See, if their timing doesn't align, that means there's a symbiotic relationship.  If their timing were to actually align, it's obvious what that would mean, right?

The only people being influenced are the people who are already watching them, because those people already belong to the audience that the outlet caters to.

This was fun:

Similarly, the keyword "nazi" only appeared when RT's coverage was included.

Really?  I seem to remember that word coming up a lot after the appearance of a certain flag drew some attention?  I guess it was just RT covering that.


This is the weirdest selective reading of what TFA said. Almost like you were working backwards from your conclusion.
 
adj_m
2023-02-04 9:00:40 PM  

wademh: They never could articulate a coherent message other than being upset about stuff and things and such.
Maybe a few asides about  "in these troubling times" and "the way things are today".


Have a family member that works in transport and has to listen nonstop about how shiat the PM is. One of his favourite things to do is to ask them to give just one example of what exactly they're mad at Trudeau for.
 
Dictatorial_Flair
2023-02-04 9:01:51 PM  
No farking shiat.
 
Gestalt
2023-02-04 9:03:46 PM  
Cool, now do MAGA.
 
austerity101
2023-02-04 9:05:10 PM  

SpaceyCat: You're just figuring this out now, subby?


They did say "Of course it was," so, no, they didn't just figure this out. They've known it for a while.
 
austerity101
2023-02-04 9:05:53 PM  
Why hadn't we cut off Russia from the rest of the world, North Korea style? Oh, right, money.
 
TWX
2023-02-04 9:06:59 PM  

Glicky: monsatano: Conservatives are stupid enough to fall for russian propaganda. Film at 11.

I think that Russian propaganda furthers the goals of the GOP which is destabilization of the current president.


The Republicans have been a subordinate party to Russian oligarchs for the last quarter century.  The goal of the GOP is destabilization because the Russian goal is destabilization.
 
rzrwiresunrise
2023-02-04 9:08:34 PM  
This

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was not grassroots.
 
mistahtom
2023-02-04 9:10:08 PM  
Yer mahm is Russian propaganda.
 
Psychohazard
2023-02-04 9:10:50 PM  
I can't wait for the day when Putin soils himself for the last time.
 
frankb00th
2023-02-04 9:11:21 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: [Fark user image image 575x530]

As a Brit I'd love to see someone look into the whole Boris Johnson "partygate" thing. He had a drink at work, in the office, with only people who would have been in the office anyway, no outside guests, no mixing, certainly nothing anyone would ever call "a party" yet that stayed in the media headlines for months here.

At a time when Boris Johnson was leading the way supporting Ukraine, putting pressure on other leaders to support Ukraine, apply sanctions etc. It was Boris leading the call to expel Russia from Swift. It was Boris who had warned Germany that becoming reliant on Russian oil would end in tears, it was Boris supplying weapons and training to Ukraine long before the actual invasion etc.

Putin certainly has a huge amount to gain if Boris was forced out. And a minor "scandal" was endlessly pushed online and in the media for months.

Coincidence?

"fracture western societies & promote civil unrest"?  Well forcing out a democratically elected leader who was leading the way supporting Ukraine certainly fits the bill.

/Of course many Farkers are going to dismiss this, because they wanted Boris gone and don't want to face the possibility that they were duped by Putin's propaganda. That they're just as gullible and easily manipulated as the people they mock.


I like how at the end of your yarn you falsely predicate that any disagreement with you automatically means the objector is a gullible fool leaving you the only victor of your imaginary argument.
Bravo. Truly astonishing posting skills.
 
Archie Goodwin
2023-02-04 9:12:19 PM  
Well,

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Dear Jerk
2023-02-04 9:12:51 PM  
Caroline Orr Bueno is what I thought when our marriage fell apart.
 
GhostOfSavageHenry
2023-02-04 9:13:22 PM  
They were tired of being idiots, and just wanted to be useful and Chet Canadaman knew exactly how they could help.
 
Ignoramist
2023-02-04 9:13:38 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: [Fark user image image 575x530]

As a Brit I'd love to see someone look into the whole Boris Johnson "partygate" thing. He had a drink at work, in the office, with only people who would have been in the office anyway, no outside guests, no mixing, certainly nothing anyone would ever call "a party" yet that stayed in the media headlines for months here.

At a time when Boris Johnson was leading the way supporting Ukraine, putting pressure on other leaders to support Ukraine, apply sanctions etc. It was Boris leading the call to expel Russia from Swift. It was Boris who had warned Germany that becoming reliant on Russian oil would end in tears, it was Boris supplying weapons and training to Ukraine long before the actual invasion etc.

Putin certainly has a huge amount to gain if Boris was forced out. And a minor "scandal" was endlessly pushed online and in the media for months.

Coincidence?

"fracture western societies & promote civil unrest"?  Well forcing out a democratically elected leader who was leading the way supporting Ukraine certainly fits the bill.

/Of course many Farkers are going to dismiss this, because they wanted Boris gone and don't want to face the possibility that they were duped by Putin's propaganda. That they're just as gullible and easily manipulated as the people they mock.


Get a load a this guy.

Hey genius, Boris managed to throw gasoline on his own fire by repeatedly lying about what he did. If hr had come clean and taken his lumps from the outset the story would have disappeared.

He got roasted for being a brazen unrepentant liar.  Not even his own party could trust him any more.  He himself is to blame.  Any handwringing you want to air over this should be directed at Boris.
 
frankb00th
2023-02-04 9:14:37 PM  

Don't Lag Me Bro: wademh: They never could articulate a coherent message other than being upset about stuff and things and such.
Maybe a few asides about  "in these troubling times" and "the way things are today".

Yah. The use of the Emergency Act to freeze the foreign money coming in to fund the protest was one of its most important uses. Anyone will protest if they are being payed bigly to do it.


The lack of transparency in the funding was a very strong indicator of foreign meddling into canadian internal affairs. It was entirely appropriate use of the Act.
 
kermit_the_frog
2023-02-04 9:15:11 PM  
There was also quite alot of right wing American funding flowing into the freedumb convoy.
As always, follow the money.
 
Ignoramist
2023-02-04 9:15:32 PM  

adj_m: wademh: They never could articulate a coherent message other than being upset about stuff and things and such.
Maybe a few asides about  "in these troubling times" and "the way things are today".

Have a family member that works in transport and has to listen nonstop about how shiat the PM is. One of his favourite things to do is to ask them to give just one example of what exactly they're mad at Trudeau for.


It's the hair, man.  It's always the hair

Also the fact that he makes their wives feel all funny in their no-no places.
 
Monkeyfark Ridiculous
2023-02-04 9:19:28 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Putin certainly has a huge amount to gain if Boris was forced out.


How's that working out for him?
 
Mikey1969 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 9:20:33 PM  

SpaceyCat: You're just figuring this out now, subby?


Probably just got finished wading through that shiatshow of social media "journalism".
 
Aussie_As
2023-02-04 9:21:42 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: fawning support of Boris....

/Of course many Farkers are going to dismiss this, because they wanted Boris gone and don't want to face the possibility that they were duped by Putin's propaganda. That they're just as gullible and easily manipulated as the people they mock.


Except the drinky-poos party scandal was just the end of a very long line of scandals by Boris, or permitted by Boris when committed by his colleagues.

In fact you've tried to rewrite history, the final straw wasn't even the office drinks, it was his backing of Chris Pincher, a man who apparently really lived up to that name. But there were many before that, Matt Hancock was another example of a complete scumbag whom Boris tried to hang onto in the face of massive public anger.

You may have a point about Russian interference, I wouldn't rule it out, but you're ignoring a LOT of reasons for public anger at Boris Johnson so that's just propaganda too at this point.
 
Carter Pewterschmidt [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 9:21:52 PM  

frankb00th: I like how at the end of your yarn you falsely predicate that any disagreement with you automatically means the objector is a gullible fool leaving you the only victor of your imaginary argument.
Bravo. Truly astonishing posting skills.


Feel free to point out any flaw in my argument.

Are you saying you don't think Putin would have wanted Boris gone?

Frankly, if I was Putin damn right I'd do everything I could to get rid of Boris. Are you seriously claiming that Russia spent all this time and effort to stir up trouble in Canada but didn't even think of doing anything in the UK to force Boris out?
 
fredbox [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 9:22:55 PM  
*Soviet

Don't forget to whom Vlad swore his original oath.
 
Ringshadow [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 9:23:16 PM  
I know someone online who is part of this.

Which is absolutely goddamn bizarre. He's a gay furry and part of a video game fandom, which is how I know him. He's otherwise a reasonably sane individual. He gardens, he's into indie broadcasting.

He just also seems to think that Trudeau is a despot who's the next Pol Pot and he's discussing trying to refugee into America. I replied that I've considered trying to refugee into Canada because I'm afab and queer, and I completely broke his mind.

The thing is, I absolutely know that someone got to him and farked with him. This isn't HIM, you know? He's been fed garbage information.

So for my part, I refused to interact beyond letting him know I thought it was a psyop. Way I see it, it's days are numbered and nothing will come of it, and he'll have to reconcile that. And he'll either become unreachable to me, or he'll limp back to reality. But I'm not going to fight with him about it and cement his beliefs that Trudeau is eating babies or whatever.
 
Carter Pewterschmidt [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 9:23:46 PM  

Ignoramist: Get a load a this guy.

Hey genius, Boris managed to throw gasoline on his own fire by repeatedly lying about what he did. If hr had come clean and taken his lumps from the outset the story would have disappeared.

He got roasted for being a brazen unrepentant liar.  Not even his own party could trust him any more.  He himself is to blame.  Any handwringing you want to air over this should be directed at Boris.


TFA explicitly says this is Russia's MO. Russia didn't create the convoy. But they saw a minor local issue and magnified it and made it a huge deal, keeping it in the headlines for months.

That is exactly what Russia did in Canada!
 
Dictatorial_Flair
2023-02-04 9:23:52 PM  

kermit_the_frog: There was also quite alot of right wing American funding flowing into the freedumb convoy.
As always, follow the money.


Much of which is really just slightly more laundered Russian money.
 
Carter Pewterschmidt [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 9:25:33 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Carter Pewterschmidt: Putin certainly has a huge amount to gain if Boris was forced out.

How's that working out for him?


If the Tories lose the next election and Labour get in, rather than winning with Boris, the difference for Ukraine could be huge. A lot of Labour party are far closer to Putin's position than Zelensky's.
 
rzrwiresunrise
2023-02-04 9:25:44 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Feel free to point out any flaw in my argument.


LOL
 
Carter Pewterschmidt [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 9:30:24 PM  

Aussie_As: You may have a point about Russian interference, I wouldn't rule it out, but you're ignoring a LOT of reasons for public anger at Boris Johnson so that's just propaganda too at this point.


Pick a hundred Brits on the street and I bet not one of them would even recognise Pincher's name let alone remember what he was accused of, barring maybe in his own constituency.

And you are essentially saying "Yeah there may have been Russian propaganda but I still stand by my position based on those months of media headlines!" which is no different to a Canadian saying "Yeah there may have been Russian propaganda but I still stand by my position based on those months of media headlines!" regarding the convoy.
 
austerity101
2023-02-04 9:36:50 PM  

Ringshadow: I know someone online who is part of this.

Which is absolutely goddamn bizarre. He's a gay furry and part of a video game fandom, which is how I know him. He's otherwise a reasonably sane individual. He gardens, he's into indie broadcasting.

He just also seems to think that Trudeau is a despot who's the next Pol Pot and he's discussing trying to refugee into America. I replied that I've considered trying to refugee into Canada because I'm afab and queer, and I completely broke his mind.

The thing is, I absolutely know that someone got to him and farked with him. This isn't HIM, you know? He's been fed garbage information.

So for my part, I refused to interact beyond letting him know I thought it was a psyop. Way I see it, it's days are numbered and nothing will come of it, and he'll have to reconcile that. And he'll either become unreachable to me, or he'll limp back to reality. But I'm not going to fight with him about it and cement his beliefs that Trudeau is eating babies or whatever.


I don't think anyone whom this describes should also be described as "otherwise a reasonably sane person."
 
COMALite J
2023-02-04 9:37:49 PM  
Didn't think I'd get to do one of these again anytime soon.

♪♫ They had a Pu-tin-made con-voy, | truck-in' for Alt-Right. ♫♪
♫♪ They had a Pu-tin-made con-voy, | ain't it a pit-i-ful sight. ♪♫
♪♫ Who then would join that con-voy? Only | dupes who Rus-sian cy-ber trolls sway. ♫♪
♫♪ So they did | mob-il-ize that con-voy a-|-gains the U.S.A. ♪♫
♪♫ Con-voy! | (Con-voy!) ♫♪
 
Mad-n-FL
2023-02-04 9:38:22 PM  
The GOP is also a Russian psyop.
 
Be polite walk on the right
2023-02-04 9:40:20 PM  
The GQP is also a Russian psyop.
 
YabbaDabbaDouchebag [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 9:42:41 PM  

monsatano: Conservatives are stupid enough to fall for russian propaganda. Film at 11.


Off-topic: I just noticed your handle isn't Monsanto.

/Proceed
 
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