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Somaticasual [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 2:18:46 PM  
Honestly,
if you work at a company where this is necessary, I'd say find a better job with better employers. It's one thing to check your metrics. It's another to make sure your mouse is moving >99% of the time.
 
Joe USer [recently expired TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 2:47:50 PM  
Have a mouse with a LED or laser? Take a decent quality whiskey glass, invert it, place mouse on top.

Congratulations, you have a free and undetectable mouse jiggler.
 
Joe USer [recently expired TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 2:49:24 PM  
Also, quit your job. Any boss who authorized mouse use detection as a productivity marker is an incompetent fool.
 
downstairs [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 3:12:26 PM  

Joe USer: Also, quit your job. Any boss who authorized mouse use detection as a productivity marker is an incompetent fool.


Well it's more about appearing active in Slack or whatever other team application you have.
 
Carter Pewterschmidt [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 4:09:29 PM  
I thought you just put your optical mouse on top of a wristwatch that had a second hand?
 
no1curr [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 5:35:20 PM  
Tell your employer to go pound sand.
 
Fark_Guy_Rob
2023-02-04 5:47:09 PM  
Shout out to my WoW fishbot that did the same thing.

Seriously though, any job where this would help you sucks and there are a million better ways to fake working while remote.
 
MiddleAgedWoman
2023-02-04 6:12:02 PM  
I have a good employer that doesn't care, but I'd use one just to keep mine from locking when I go to lunch.  My VPN is spotty and it cuts out with the lock screen...is a real pain when the VPN cuts out while downloading SOLIDWORKS updates.
 
Flowery Twats
2023-02-04 6:12:52 PM  
5 minute screen lock timeout and USB jiggler dongle here. 100% WFH, so no reason to lock the screen at all. But no way (other than the mouse jiggler) to turn it off. If it becomes a problem, I'll go mechanical, but so far, so good.
 
gerrychampoux
2023-02-04 6:35:05 PM  
Many decades ago (before PC's) one of our customers asked me if I could find a way to determine how much CPU time each users was using with our CAD software. I explained that the data was already recorded by the OS, and showed him the report. He thanked me, because he thought it would help identify "slow pokes". I told him that it's likely the exact opposite. The people that used the most CPU cycles were likely inefficient, and he should seek a different metric.
 
BMFPitt
2023-02-04 6:37:09 PM  

Somaticasual: Honestly,
if you work at a company where this is necessary, I'd say find a better job with better employers. It's one thing to check your metrics. It's another to make sure your mouse is moving >99% of the time.


Useful for when you're looking for jobs on your other laptop, or on a phone interview.

Or potentially once you've started that other job, if you want to live dangerously.
 
Bob Down
2023-02-04 7:09:29 PM  
"Jiggling my mouse" is already what they think I'm doing
 
SirDigbyChickenCaesar
2023-02-04 7:10:35 PM  
and farkers complain that they can't make any money
 
little big man [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 7:36:53 PM  
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Mikey1969 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 7:49:14 PM  
Or, and I'm just spit balling here, you could just DO THE WORK YOU'RE PAID FOR.
 
hlehmann
2023-02-04 7:55:12 PM  

Mikey1969: Or, and I'm just spit balling here, you could just DO THE WORK YOU'RE PAID FOR.


I don't get paid paid based on how many hours I spend moving a mouse and clicking on a keyboard. I get paid based on whether I get the work done that I've been asked to do, which I do, so fark you very much.  But you go ahead and keep fellating your corporate overlord.  And no, my boss doesn't expect me to run any such silly monitoring spyware.  He, like me, has actual work to do.
 
vudukungfu [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 8:21:25 PM  

Joe USer: Also, quit your job. Any boss who authorized mouse use detection as a productivity marker is an incompetent fool.


That covers a lot of companies
 
Joe USer [recently expired TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 8:23:29 PM  
If my boss tried this I would quit and take down the entire company because I'm irreplaceable.

/well, yes I'm self employed, but I don't see what that has to do with it.
 
Fark_Guy_Rob
2023-02-04 8:32:19 PM  

hlehmann: Mikey1969: Or, and I'm just spit balling here, you could just DO THE WORK YOU'RE PAID FOR.

I don't get paid paid based on how many hours I spend moving a mouse and clicking on a keyboard. I get paid based on whether I get the work done that I've been asked to do, which I do, so fark you very much.  But you go ahead and keep fellating your corporate overlord.  And no, my boss doesn't expect me to run any such silly monitoring spyware.  He, like me, has actual work to do.


This feels like a nonsensical response, no offense intended.

If you do the work you are paid to do, there isn't any need to simulate activities, lie, or otherwise deceive you boss/customer/client.

You say that you aren't paid based on how many hours you spend moving a mouse, and also, that you get paid based on the work you do...and that your boss doesn't monitor you anyway.

Your post supports the one you replied to. You are doing the work you are paid to do.

I was a consultant for years and our contracts were more formal than most employer/employee agreements. It clearly spelled out what they were paying for and it was either 'time and materials' or 'fixed bid'.

Most of our projects were time and materials and that's also what most companies expect from their employees. They aren't actually paying for work, they are paying for your time. I've since had a lot of other jobs and every single one has stated as much.

Fixed bid/flat fee is when you are paid for the work. We negotiate, in advance, what we will do and then agree on a price. It it takes five minutes or 50 hours, it really doesn't matter. Because they are paying for the work.

But, the real key here is in the deceit... People who are paid for their work don't have to fake it.

They don't need to fake timesheets or lie about how much they are working. They don't need software to stimulate activity. Because nobody would care.

Like yourself.

The people who use this software for it's intended purpose, aren't in your situation. They are people who are expected to be working either a certain amount or at certain times, and use the software to fake it for them.
 
Dinjiin [BareFark]
2023-02-04 8:37:08 PM  
I found that a Microsoft Mouse Receiver v1.0 will trick the mouse driver into believing that there is activity.  No mouse required, either.
 
p89tech
2023-02-04 8:39:29 PM  
Gosh, why do companies want people to return to the office?
 
DeathByGeekSquad
2023-02-04 8:51:15 PM  
The anti-work kids have it all wrong, because most of them are fake.  All you literally need to do is move to California, find a job with a manager of the opposite gender or sexual preference, and claim sexual harassment and/or discrimination.

You can stack the deck further in your favor by going to a small business in a social dominated industry, they'll be much more inclined to settle.

And no, you won't have legal fees, because there are a number of firms ready to work on contingency for employment law cases in California, because it's so farking easy for them to make money.

There you go, game the system, get paid, and either don't work for a year or retire, depending on the size of the settlement.

/bonus points if you're over 40
//just claim age discrimination
 
Joe USer [recently expired TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 8:55:31 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: hlehmann: Mikey1969: Or, and I'm just spit balling here, you could just DO THE WORK YOU'RE PAID FOR.

I don't get paid paid based on how many hours I spend moving a mouse and clicking on a keyboard. I get paid based on whether I get the work done that I've been asked to do, which I do, so fark you very much.  But you go ahead and keep fellating your corporate overlord.  And no, my boss doesn't expect me to run any such silly monitoring spyware.  He, like me, has actual work to do.

This feels like a nonsensical response, no offense intended.

If you do the work you are paid to do, there isn't any need to simulate activities, lie, or otherwise deceive you boss/customer/client.

You say that you aren't paid based on how many hours you spend moving a mouse, and also, that you get paid based on the work you do...and that your boss doesn't monitor you anyway.

Your post supports the one you replied to. You are doing the work you are paid to do.

I was a consultant for years and our contracts were more formal than most employer/employee agreements. It clearly spelled out what they were paying for and it was either 'time and materials' or 'fixed bid'.

Most of our projects were time and materials and that's also what most companies expect from their employees. They aren't actually paying for work, they are paying for your time. I've since had a lot of other jobs and every single one has stated as much.

Fixed bid/flat fee is when you are paid for the work. We negotiate, in advance, what we will do and then agree on a price. It it takes five minutes or 50 hours, it really doesn't matter. Because they are paying for the work.

But, the real key here is in the deceit... People who are paid for their work don't have to fake it.

They don't need to fake timesheets or lie about how much they are working. They don't need software to stimulate activity. Because nobody would care.

Like yourself.

The people who use this software for it's intended purpose, aren't in your situation. They are people who are expected to be working either a certain amount or at certain times, and use the software to fake it for them.


Mouse movement is not an indicator of productivity.
 
Fark_Guy_Rob
2023-02-04 8:56:25 PM  

Joe USer: Fark_Guy_Rob: hlehmann: Mikey1969: Or, and I'm just spit balling here, you could just DO THE WORK YOU'RE PAID FOR.

I don't get paid paid based on how many hours I spend moving a mouse and clicking on a keyboard. I get paid based on whether I get the work done that I've been asked to do, which I do, so fark you very much.  But you go ahead and keep fellating your corporate overlord.  And no, my boss doesn't expect me to run any such silly monitoring spyware.  He, like me, has actual work to do.

This feels like a nonsensical response, no offense intended.

If you do the work you are paid to do, there isn't any need to simulate activities, lie, or otherwise deceive you boss/customer/client.

You say that you aren't paid based on how many hours you spend moving a mouse, and also, that you get paid based on the work you do...and that your boss doesn't monitor you anyway.

Your post supports the one you replied to. You are doing the work you are paid to do.

I was a consultant for years and our contracts were more formal than most employer/employee agreements. It clearly spelled out what they were paying for and it was either 'time and materials' or 'fixed bid'.

Most of our projects were time and materials and that's also what most companies expect from their employees. They aren't actually paying for work, they are paying for your time. I've since had a lot of other jobs and every single one has stated as much.

Fixed bid/flat fee is when you are paid for the work. We negotiate, in advance, what we will do and then agree on a price. It it takes five minutes or 50 hours, it really doesn't matter. Because they are paying for the work.

But, the real key here is in the deceit... People who are paid for their work don't have to fake it.

They don't need to fake timesheets or lie about how much they are working. They don't need software to stimulate activity. Because nobody would care.

Like yourself.

The people who use this software for it's intended purpose, aren't in your situation. They are people who are expected to be working either a certain amount or at certain times, and use the software to fake it for them.

Mouse movement is not an indicator of productivity.


Nobody is claiming that it is.
 
Joe USer [recently expired TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 9:00:17 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Joe USer: Fark_Guy_Rob: hlehmann: Mikey1969: Or, and I'm just spit balling here, you could just DO THE WORK YOU'RE PAID FOR.

I don't get paid paid based on how many hours I spend moving a mouse and clicking on a keyboard. I get paid based on whether I get the work done that I've been asked to do, which I do, so fark you very much.  But you go ahead and keep fellating your corporate overlord.  And no, my boss doesn't expect me to run any such silly monitoring spyware.  He, like me, has actual work to do.

This feels like a nonsensical response, no offense intended.

If you do the work you are paid to do, there isn't any need to simulate activities, lie, or otherwise deceive you boss/customer/client.

You say that you aren't paid based on how many hours you spend moving a mouse, and also, that you get paid based on the work you do...and that your boss doesn't monitor you anyway.

Your post supports the one you replied to. You are doing the work you are paid to do.

I was a consultant for years and our contracts were more formal than most employer/employee agreements. It clearly spelled out what they were paying for and it was either 'time and materials' or 'fixed bid'.

Most of our projects were time and materials and that's also what most companies expect from their employees. They aren't actually paying for work, they are paying for your time. I've since had a lot of other jobs and every single one has stated as much.

Fixed bid/flat fee is when you are paid for the work. We negotiate, in advance, what we will do and then agree on a price. It it takes five minutes or 50 hours, it really doesn't matter. Because they are paying for the work.

But, the real key here is in the deceit... People who are paid for their work don't have to fake it.

They don't need to fake timesheets or lie about how much they are working. They don't need software to stimulate activity. Because nobody would care.

Like yourself.

The people who use this software for it's intended purpose, aren't in your situation. They are people who are expected to be working either a certain amount or at certain times, and use the software to fake it for them.

Mouse movement is not an indicator of productivity.

Nobody is claiming that it is.


I must be in the wrong thread then, because the one I posted in was about simulating mouse movement because others track it.
 
Joe USer [recently expired TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 9:01:40 PM  
And yeah, the article doesn't say it, the antiwork comment in the title does.
 
Cubansaltyballs
2023-02-04 9:07:34 PM  
Saw a lawyer write a tool like this and use it to generate billable hours. Yes, the lawyer went to a technical school before law school which was prob like 95% of a computer science degree. Also it was a big firm that used some automated billing software to calculate his hours.

When I realized he was banging Facebook for billable hours while he golfed or whatever I just ignored it.

Why? Well... it wasn't malware like our tool originally thought.  So why tf should I care? Also, no one was hurt. I mean, yeah, you could make the case Fb paid for more billable hours than used, but that ain't my problem. These mfers werent stopping genocides on their platform because it made them a few bucks... so I rationalize that since dolla dolla bills y'all was what it was about...  so why waste their precious resources on something as petty as some lawyers farkery?

Also, dude was a good guy. Hated his client. And helped me write a auto-checkin script for southwest.

Anyway... zero regrets. Zero moral consternation on my part.
 
DeathByGeekSquad
2023-02-04 9:16:11 PM  

Cubansaltyballs: Saw a lawyer write a tool like this and use it to generate billable hours. Yes, the lawyer went to a technical school before law school which was prob like 95% of a computer science degree. Also it was a big firm that used some automated billing software to calculate his hours.

When I realized he was banging Facebook for billable hours while he golfed or whatever I just ignored it.

Why? Well... it wasn't malware like our tool originally thought.  So why tf should I care? Also, no one was hurt. I mean, yeah, you could make the case Fb paid for more billable hours than used, but that ain't my problem. These mfers werent stopping genocides on their platform because it made them a few bucks... so I rationalize that since dolla dolla bills y'all was what it was about...  so why waste their precious resources on something as petty as some lawyers farkery?

Also, dude was a good guy. Hated his client. And helped me write a auto-checkin script for southwest.

Anyway... zero regrets. Zero moral consternation on my part.


So, Fraud is okay so long as you don't like the victim.  Got it.

Great moral compass.
 
Fark_Guy_Rob
2023-02-04 9:17:01 PM  

Joe USer: Fark_Guy_Rob: Joe USer: Fark_Guy_Rob: hlehmann: Mikey1969: Or, and I'm just spit balling here, you could just DO THE WORK YOU'RE PAID FOR.

I don't get paid paid based on how many hours I spend moving a mouse and clicking on a keyboard. I get paid based on whether I get the work done that I've been asked to do, which I do, so fark you very much.  But you go ahead and keep fellating your corporate overlord.  And no, my boss doesn't expect me to run any such silly monitoring spyware.  He, like me, has actual work to do.

This feels like a nonsensical response, no offense intended.

If you do the work you are paid to do, there isn't any need to simulate activities, lie, or otherwise deceive you boss/customer/client.

You say that you aren't paid based on how many hours you spend moving a mouse, and also, that you get paid based on the work you do...and that your boss doesn't monitor you anyway.

Your post supports the one you replied to. You are doing the work you are paid to do.

I was a consultant for years and our contracts were more formal than most employer/employee agreements. It clearly spelled out what they were paying for and it was either 'time and materials' or 'fixed bid'.

Most of our projects were time and materials and that's also what most companies expect from their employees. They aren't actually paying for work, they are paying for your time. I've since had a lot of other jobs and every single one has stated as much.

Fixed bid/flat fee is when you are paid for the work. We negotiate, in advance, what we will do and then agree on a price. It it takes five minutes or 50 hours, it really doesn't matter. Because they are paying for the work.

But, the real key here is in the deceit... People who are paid for their work don't have to fake it.

They don't need to fake timesheets or lie about how much they are working. They don't need software to stimulate activity. Because nobody would care.

Like yourself.

The people who use this software for it's intended purpose, aren't in your situation. They are people who are expected to be working either a certain amount or at certain times, and use the software to fake it for them.

Mouse movement is not an indicator of productivity.

Nobody is claiming that it is.

I must be in the wrong thread then, because the one I posted in was about simulating mouse movement because others track it.


Right thread, you're just slightly confused...

Nobody thinks that mouse movement is a measure of productivity. Companies that track it are using it as a measure of attendance.

It's like a punch clock.

Nobody is saying 'Fark_Guy_Rob's productivity is down, he isn't moving his mouse enough! We need to get employees larger mouse pads!'
 
Cubansaltyballs
2023-02-04 9:17:37 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: Cubansaltyballs: Saw a lawyer write a tool like this and use it to generate billable hours. Yes, the lawyer went to a technical school before law school which was prob like 95% of a computer science degree. Also it was a big firm that used some automated billing software to calculate his hours.

When I realized he was banging Facebook for billable hours while he golfed or whatever I just ignored it.

Why? Well... it wasn't malware like our tool originally thought.  So why tf should I care? Also, no one was hurt. I mean, yeah, you could make the case Fb paid for more billable hours than used, but that ain't my problem. These mfers werent stopping genocides on their platform because it made them a few bucks... so I rationalize that since dolla dolla bills y'all was what it was about...  so why waste their precious resources on something as petty as some lawyers farkery?

Also, dude was a good guy. Hated his client. And helped me write a auto-checkin script for southwest.

Anyway... zero regrets. Zero moral consternation on my part.

So, Fraud is okay so long as you don't like the victim.  Got it.

Great moral compass.


I sleep good at night. I wasn't hired to find fraud. I was brought in to find malware. And this wasn't it, so I just went back to minding my of f-ing business. Give it a shot sometime
 
DeathByGeekSquad
2023-02-04 9:18:54 PM  

Cubansaltyballs: DeathByGeekSquad: Cubansaltyballs: Saw a lawyer write a tool like this and use it to generate billable hours. Yes, the lawyer went to a technical school before law school which was prob like 95% of a computer science degree. Also it was a big firm that used some automated billing software to calculate his hours.

When I realized he was banging Facebook for billable hours while he golfed or whatever I just ignored it.

Why? Well... it wasn't malware like our tool originally thought.  So why tf should I care? Also, no one was hurt. I mean, yeah, you could make the case Fb paid for more billable hours than used, but that ain't my problem. These mfers werent stopping genocides on their platform because it made them a few bucks... so I rationalize that since dolla dolla bills y'all was what it was about...  so why waste their precious resources on something as petty as some lawyers farkery?

Also, dude was a good guy. Hated his client. And helped me write a auto-checkin script for southwest.

Anyway... zero regrets. Zero moral consternation on my part.

So, Fraud is okay so long as you don't like the victim.  Got it.

Great moral compass.

I sleep good at night. I wasn't hired to find fraud. I was brought in to find malware. And this wasn't it, so I just went back to minding my of f-ing business. Give it a shot sometime


I'm not the one bragging about an acquaintances Fraud to strangers on the internet.
 
Cubansaltyballs
2023-02-04 9:20:36 PM  
And it's pretty farking simple for me. FB knew their was genocide happening but then looked at their bosses all the way up to Zuckerberg and their role wasn't to stop genocide. Their role was to generate more clicks... so they shrugged. And then I shrugged.
 
Cubansaltyballs
2023-02-04 9:24:30 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: Cubansaltyballs: DeathByGeekSquad: Cubansaltyballs: Saw a lawyer write a tool like this and use it to generate billable hours. Yes, the lawyer went to a technical school before law school which was prob like 95% of a computer science degree. Also it was a big firm that used some automated billing software to calculate his hours.

When I realized he was banging Facebook for billable hours while he golfed or whatever I just ignored it.

Why? Well... it wasn't malware like our tool originally thought.  So why tf should I care? Also, no one was hurt. I mean, yeah, you could make the case Fb paid for more billable hours than used, but that ain't my problem. These mfers werent stopping genocides on their platform because it made them a few bucks... so I rationalize that since dolla dolla bills y'all was what it was about...  so why waste their precious resources on something as petty as some lawyers farkery?

Also, dude was a good guy. Hated his client. And helped me write a auto-checkin script for southwest.

Anyway... zero regrets. Zero moral consternation on my part.

So, Fraud is okay so long as you don't like the victim.  Got it.

Great moral compass.

I sleep good at night. I wasn't hired to find fraud. I was brought in to find malware. And this wasn't it, so I just went back to minding my of f-ing business. Give it a shot sometime

I'm not the one bragging about an acquaintances Fraud to strangers on the internet.


I'm totally happy and proud about how I responded. I feel no moral quandary about someone skimming billable hours from a company that has no problem fueling a genocide because that led to more clicks and ad dollars.

It's like you're the guy that would Stan for IBM while they're selling the nazis machines to better organize their atrocities and I'm the guy seeing someone defraud them and like, yeah... fark you mfers. I'm not gonna let my conscience get in the way of someone hurting you.

So good for you and high road. 🤗. I still feel good about mine.
 
The_Homeless_Guy
2023-02-04 9:37:49 PM  
Writing a macro isn't hard. I wrote one that was able to run on the VA computers so the stupid EMR would stop logging me out.
 
psychosis_inducing
2023-02-04 10:00:49 PM  

Mikey1969: Or, and I'm just spit balling here, you could just DO THE WORK YOU'RE PAID FOR.


Poorly managed companies (of which there are many) often conflate presence with productivity. They give their employees benchmarks and goals, but measure the employees' success with productivity. This often causes a discrepancy between (as you say) doing the work you're paid for, and ensuring you meet the presence metrics that define whether you keep your job.
To give an example: an office worker is told to prepare a presentation for an upcoming sale. That is their goal and benchmark: one presentation, with data, speaker notes, illustrations, etc.
However, for internal metric purposes this employee is measured by how long they spent in PowerPoint. By company metric, spending more time in PowerPoint must mean the employee was focused and working on the presentation.
However, if the employee is very familiar with PowerPoint, they may end up spending very little time in that program because they can put everything together very quickly. They may instead a bigger portion of the time getting data to put in the presentation, getting feedback on their work, etc. That means that while they are doing the work they are paid for, they're not meeting the presence metrics.
Most of these mouse jigglers etc are in direct response to problems like this. Companies expect PRODUCTIVITY but measure PRESENCE. The two are related but not the same.
 
TedCruz'sCrazyDad
2023-02-04 10:08:01 PM  

MiddleAgedWoman: I have a good employer that doesn't care, but I'd use one just to keep mine from locking when I go to lunch.  My VPN is spotty and it cuts out with the lock screen...is a real pain when the VPN cuts out while downloading SOLIDWORKS updates.


I use autohotkey to move my mouse cursor every 5 mins to keep my VPN active.
 
Hyjamon
2023-02-04 10:41:19 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Shout out to my WoW fishbot that did the same thing.

Seriously though, any job where this would help you sucks and there are a million better ways to fake working while remote.


I actually enjoyed fishing in wow. just chill out in a spot trying to catch some fish for alchemy (name escapes me...only appeared at night) and chat with friends or guildmates.

i liked how you needed fishing and +fishing gear to summon a boss in the expansion (2nd?)
 
Archie Goodwin
2023-02-04 10:56:11 PM  

p89tech: Gosh, why do companies want people to return to the office?


Because it shows three quarters of middle management are nothing more than make-work generators, and are themselves superfluous?
 
Telephone Sanitizer Second Class
2023-02-04 11:15:33 PM  
Have a buddy whose former employer had tied health benefits to some mandatory exercise program and gave all the employees Fitbits that sent daily data to the company.

At the end of the work day he would tie the Fitbit to his dog's collar, crack a beer and play fetch for an hour.
 
chitownmike
2023-02-04 11:42:40 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: Cubansaltyballs: Saw a lawyer write a tool like this and use it to generate billable hours. Yes, the lawyer went to a technical school before law school which was prob like 95% of a computer science degree. Also it was a big firm that used some automated billing software to calculate his hours.

When I realized he was banging Facebook for billable hours while he golfed or whatever I just ignored it.

Why? Well... it wasn't malware like our tool originally thought.  So why tf should I care? Also, no one was hurt. I mean, yeah, you could make the case Fb paid for more billable hours than used, but that ain't my problem. These mfers werent stopping genocides on their platform because it made them a few bucks... so I rationalize that since dolla dolla bills y'all was what it was about...  so why waste their precious resources on something as petty as some lawyers farkery?

Also, dude was a good guy. Hated his client. And helped me write a auto-checkin script for southwest.

Anyway... zero regrets. Zero moral consternation on my part.

So, Fraud is okay so long as you don't like the victim.  Got it.

Great moral compass.


A lawyer with a moral compass?
 
chitownmike
2023-02-04 11:50:09 PM  

Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: Have a buddy whose former employer had tied health benefits to some mandatory exercise program and gave all the employees Fitbits that sent daily data to the company.

At the end of the work day he would tie the Fitbit to his dog's collar, crack a beer and play fetch for an hour.


Seems like it would be easier to just mastrubate more. Brb
 
nytmare
2023-02-05 1:15:28 AM  
MS once had MSN Messenger and it was good (once you applied the crack that let it run without ads.) Then MS killed it for Skype, then killed Skype for Teams, and now the entire corporate world is stuck with this poor excuse for a file management / IM combo app whose main competition Slack is just as bad.

And I have to log in to more crap more often now, during the supposed "single sign on" era, than I ever did before before.

Why can't software get better for once instead of worse?
 
NathanAllen
2023-02-05 6:49:44 AM  
I guess you could buy something to do that. The alternative would be a dirt simple Python script executing in a loop.
 
bisi
2023-02-05 7:15:07 AM  

p89tech: Gosh, why do companies want people to return to the office?


So they can watch them move their mouse in person while they get the exact same amount of actual work done?
 
jjorsett
2023-02-05 8:48:33 AM  
In the near future, somebody is going to figure out how to connect ChatGPT or equivalent up to actually do your job for you. Shortly after that, your employer is going to discover that's possible too and you won't be doing it any more. The ultimate mouse wiggler.
 
Yankees Team Gynecologist
2023-02-05 11:49:16 AM  

jjorsett: In the near future, somebody is going to figure out how to connect ChatGPT or equivalent up to actually do your job for you. Shortly after that, your employer is going to discover that's possible too and you won't be doing it any more. The ultimate mouse wiggler.


Good.

Automation is inevitable, may as well get there as quickly as possible and implement UBI and social programs finally paid for by the accelerated productivity.

In all advanced countries, even in America with a few notable exceptions (like Flint MI), breathable air and drinkable water are universally free and available thanks to regulation. Only stupid people projecting their stupidity (i.e., conservatives) think that if other basics for survival like nutrition, housing, and healthcare follow suit, the moral fabric of society will somehow fall apart. In reality, most people will occupy themselves with what they actually want to do, and great things will come of it. A few bums will do jack shiat and waste what's given to them, but we'll finally be able to rip on them uninhibited for being lazy because now they have no excuse, assuming they're of otherwise sound mind and body. Conservatives should be on board with this.
 
blodyholy
2023-02-05 12:02:50 PM  
I used mouse jiggler for many years at an old job to uhh keep my screen unlocked. Definitely not to watch reruns of Trek on BBC America and the Cubs post season and Series win while working from home...
 
MiddleAgedWoman
2023-02-05 4:24:54 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: MiddleAgedWoman: I have a good employer that doesn't care, but I'd use one just to keep mine from locking when I go to lunch.  My VPN is spotty and it cuts out with the lock screen...is a real pain when the VPN cuts out while downloading SOLIDWORKS updates.

I use autohotkey to move my mouse cursor every 5 mins to keep my VPN active.


Good idea.
 
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