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Pocket Ninja [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 9:04:20 AM  
In a statement attached to the final report, the court called the leak a "grave assault" on the court's legitimacy...

How can you assault something that ceased to exist years ago?
 
JulieAzel626 [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 9:17:59 AM  

Pocket Ninja: In a statement attached to the final report, the court called the leak a "grave assault" on the court's legitimacy...

How can you assault something that ceased to exist years ago?


Many people are saying Justice Brett Kavanaugh's favorite song is "Code Blue" by T.S.O.L.
 
hubiestubert [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 9:21:29 AM  
"How dare people snoop into the stuff we just left out in the hallway!"
 
aimtastic [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 10:04:00 AM  
We have better document security at the car dealership where I work.
 
Exile On Beale Street [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 10:22:27 AM  

JulieAzel626: Pocket Ninja: In a statement attached to the final report, the court called the leak a "grave assault" on the court's legitimacy...

How can you assault something that ceased to exist years ago?

Many people are saying Justice Brett Kavanaugh's favorite song is "Code Blue" by T.S.O.L.


I got into them in my skateboard days when I saw Stephen Adler wearing the T shirt. 🤘
 
snocone [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 10:35:39 AM  
Perhaps the least of the problems with Supreme Court Theatre.
 
cretinbob [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 10:57:11 AM  

Pocket Ninja: In a statement attached to the final report, the court called the leak a "grave assault" on the court's legitimacy...

How can you assault something that ceased to exist years ago?


It's called "physical evidence".
So yes, it confirms they suck at their job too.
 
winedrinkingman
2023-02-04 11:30:33 AM  
Well that settles it, we are gonna need to send every current Supreme Court Justice to prison and replace them with all new Biden appointed justices.  I don't see any other solution.  We should do this now instead of waiting.
 
Yeast No 7
2023-02-04 11:32:44 AM  
Good to hear that Roberts runs a tight ship.
 
austerity101
2023-02-04 11:34:08 AM  
And they're allowed to take away people's rights and we can't won't do a goddamn thing about it.
 
Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 11:34:24 AM  
They were using their personal E-mail addresses?  So...  I should have responded to that sub poena I got from Be­er­B­roJus­tice­69­[nospam-﹫-backwards]l­o­a*co­m?
 
whither_apophis [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 11:35:55 AM  
B­eer­Ru­l­e­z­69[nospam-﹫-backwards]l­o­a*c­om
 
whither_apophis [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 11:36:15 AM  

Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: They were using their personal E-mail addresses?  So...  I should have responded to that sub poena I got from BeerBroJustice69loacom?


doh! didn't refresh
 
Rob4127
2023-02-04 11:38:03 AM  
It's long past time to include (Hostile) Foreign Intelligence Services as potential leakers of SCOTUS documents.
 
Theeng
2023-02-04 11:40:53 AM  

aimtastic: We have better document security at the car dealership where I work.


The amount of documents and self-importance you have is inversely proportional to the amount of document security you practice.  In my experience it seems lawyers tend to be the worst about keeping their massive amount of paperwork secured.
 
Spoticus66
2023-02-04 11:46:54 AM  
I wonder how many ransomware attacks they have experienced that we never heard about.
 
Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 11:47:49 AM  

whither_apophis: Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: They were using their personal E-mail addresses?  So...  I should have responded to that sub poena I got from BeerBroJustice69loacom?

doh! didn't refresh


Great minds, my friend...
 
Ragin' Asian [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 11:53:02 AM  
Which justices were responsible, lefty lamestream msm media CNN?

/Sarcasm because this timeline sucks.
 
Russell_Secord
2023-02-04 11:55:21 AM  
Has anyone checked their garages for classified documents?
 
centrifugal bumblepuppy
2023-02-04 12:04:25 PM  
Sure Sam, blame the janitor
 
saturn badger [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 12:14:48 PM  
The problem with the justices' use of emails persisted in part because some justices were slow to adopt to the technology and some court employees were nervous about confronting them to urge them to take precautions, one person said. Such behavior meant that justices weren't setting an example to take security seriously.

The justices were "not masters of information security protocol," one former court employee told CNN.

But surely a little training on how to keep secrets safe would be acceptable. I would demand the to do it. They aren't gawds.
 
Samfucious [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 12:18:40 PM  
"Supreme Court employees also used printers that didn't produce logs."

Such a thing exists? I can buy a printer that will print logs? Like, a 3d printer? This will save a lot of money on firewood.

But seriously, aside from the occasional case that has something to do with national security, everything the supreme court does should be public. They aren't inventing anything. The "value" they "produce" is rhetoric about the interpretaion and application of constitutional law. What secrets are there to secure?

Anyone wanting to make court information more secure has a frightening long game in mind. And THAT we should take very seriously.
 
Hey Nurse! [OhFark]
2023-02-04 12:23:26 PM  
The Democrats did what??!!!  Outrageous! Preposterous! Unconscionable! We need an investigation and start impeachment immediately!

Oh. The scotus? Never mind, carry on.
 
qorkfiend
2023-02-04 12:25:10 PM  

saturn badger: The problem with the justices' use of emails persisted in part because some justices were slow to adopt to the technology and some court employees were nervous about confronting them to urge them to take precautions, one person said. Such behavior meant that justices weren't setting an example to take security seriously.

The justices were "not masters of information security protocol," one former court employee told CNN.

But surely a little training on how to keep secrets safe would be acceptable. I would demand the to do it. They aren't gawds.


Sure.

And if they ignore your demands?
 
Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 12:29:34 PM  

Samfucious: "Supreme Court employees also used printers that didn't produce logs."

Such a thing exists? I can buy a printer that will print logs? Like, a 3d printer? This will save a lot of money on firewood.
...


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Kintsugi
2023-02-04 12:35:36 PM  

saturn badger: The problem with the justices' use of emails persisted in part because some justices were slow to adopt to the technology and some court employees were nervous about confronting them to urge them to take precautions, one person said. Such behavior meant that justices weren't setting an example to take security seriously.

The justices were "not masters of information security protocol," one former court employee told CNN.

But surely a little training on how to keep secrets safe would be acceptable. I would demand the to do it. They aren't gawds.


It cannot bode well if our highest judges are either too lazy or too fearful of learning new to adopt better digital security practices.
 
misanthropicsob [OhFark]
2023-02-04 12:44:05 PM  
That's it. I'm not voting for Clarence Thomas again!
 
misanthropicsob [OhFark]
2023-02-04 12:44:50 PM  

Hey Nurse!: The Democrats did what??!!!  Outrageous! Preposterous! Unconscionable! We need an investigation and start impeachment immediately!

Oh. The scotus? Never mind, carry on.


I'm all for punishing SCOTUS. Do it.
 
Therion [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 12:57:22 PM  
LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP!
 
Zorba Paster's Wet Nurse
2023-02-04 12:59:33 PM  
I saw the headline and thought of IT security measures and how convenience and security are opposing forces. People choose convenience and when it's someone in leadership doing it, the people under them fear retaliation and are powerless to speak out. As the people above their bosses are doing the same thing!
 
Keizer_Ghidorah
2023-02-04 1:00:16 PM  
This should continue. We need to know everything the Council of Vermin is planning to destroy.
 
Rattlehead
2023-02-04 1:05:28 PM  
LOCK THEM UP!
 
Lawdawgatl
2023-02-04 1:24:00 PM  
A note about burn bags (that probably no one is interested in, but here you go): When I worked at the White House Complex, I had a burn bag. It resided under my desk where my legs were. Once a day, a security person would swap out my bag (made of paper) and its contents and leave me with a new bag. I handed it to him. This was done at the end of the day. Nobody left a burn bag in the halls.

That is all.
 
Tyrone Slothrop
2023-02-04 1:24:08 PM  

saturn badger: The problem with the justices' use of emails persisted in part because some justices were slow to adopt to the technology and some court employees were nervous about confronting them to urge them to take precautions, one person said. Such behavior meant that justices weren't setting an example to take security seriously.

The justices were "not masters of information security protocol," one former court employee told CNN.

But surely a little training on how to keep secrets safe would be acceptable. I would demand the to do it. They aren't gawds.


Not elected.
Lifetime appointment.
Can't be removed from office for all practical purposes.
Has no ethics rules that must be followed.
Has ultimate say over the law of the land*.
Has, for the most part, objectively made the country worse with bad decisions.

Might as well be gods.

*technically nothing prevents the executive branch and Congress from ignoring their decisions, but that has almost never happened.
 
jaytkay [OhFark]
2023-02-04 1:26:09 PM  

Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: They were using their personal E-mail addresses?  So...  I should have responded to that sub poena I got from BeerBroJustice69loacom?


Interesting. That explains why the avatar of l­ong­don­gsil­ver43­768[nospam-﹫-backwards]loa*com looked so familiar.

Fark user image
 
jaytkay [OhFark]
2023-02-04 1:29:43 PM  
In a statement attached to the final report, the court called the leak a "grave assault" on the court's legitimacy...

So when your investigation required depositions under oath from all but 9 people in the building and turned up nothing, maybe you should have completed your assignment
 
mrmopar5287 [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 1:30:02 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Can't be removed from office for all practical purposes.


A President could easily remove them - it's just no one wants to do it because it will be the nuclear option.

The President can nominate anyone to an open federal judge seat, even serving judges. That's how federal judges get moved up to other positions. As soon as the Senate confirms them to the new position, their old one is open.

The President could take someone like Clarence Thomas and nominate him to some federal judge seat in Nome, Alaska. The Senate could confirm him. Once he's confirmed, his Supreme Court seat is open for the President to fill with someone else.
 
Kiler
2023-02-04 1:38:10 PM  

mrmopar5287: Tyrone Slothrop: Can't be removed from office for all practical purposes.

A President could easily remove them - it's just no one wants to do it because it will be the nuclear option.

The President can nominate anyone to an open federal judge seat, even serving judges. That's how federal judges get moved up to other positions. As soon as the Senate confirms them to the new position, their old one is open.

The President could take someone like Clarence Thomas and nominate him to some federal judge seat in Nome, Alaska. The Senate could confirm him. Once he's confirmed, his Supreme Court seat is open for the President to fill with someone else.


Do you even Civics bro?
 
Senseless_drivel
2023-02-04 1:55:44 PM  
Convenient cover given the hired investigators "couldn't find" who leaked overturning Roe v Wade.
 
guinsu
2023-02-04 2:11:07 PM  

winedrinkingman: Well that settles it, we are gonna need to send every current Supreme Court Justice to prison and replace them with all new Biden appointed justices.  I don't see any other solution.  We should do this now instead of waiting.


AmbassadorBooze?
 
Alien Robot
2023-02-04 2:18:26 PM  

mrmopar5287: Tyrone Slothrop: Can't be removed from office for all practical purposes.

A President could easily remove them - it's just no one wants to do it because it will be the nuclear option.

The President can nominate anyone to an open federal judge seat, even serving judges. That's how federal judges get moved up to other positions. As soon as the Senate confirms them to the new position, their old one is open.

The President could take someone like Clarence Thomas and nominate him to some federal judge seat in Nome, Alaska. The Senate could confirm him. Once he's confirmed, his Supreme Court seat is open for the President to fill with someone else.


The flaw in your plan: the nomination can be declined and the approval not accepted by the person so chosen.
 
Kris_Romm
2023-02-04 2:38:52 PM  
And they have no legal accountability over it, even though everyone else in Gubmint does.

Sigh.
 
snocone [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 3:26:40 PM  

mrmopar5287: Tyrone Slothrop: Can't be removed from office for all practical purposes.

A President could easily remove them - it's just no one wants to do it because it will be the nuclear option.

The President can nominate anyone to an open federal judge seat, even serving judges. That's how federal judges get moved up to other positions. As soon as the Senate confirms them to the new position, their old one is open.

The President could take someone like Clarence Thomas and nominate him to some federal judge seat in Nome, Alaska. The Senate could confirm him. Once he's confirmed, his Supreme Court seat is open for the President to fill with someone else.


I, for one, would like to hear some more law talking about this. Not being common knowledge in today's world is troublesome logic.
 
jjorsett
2023-02-04 3:32:44 PM  

winedrinkingman: Well that settles it, we are gonna need to send every current Supreme Court Justice to prison and replace them with all new Biden appointed justices.  I don't see any other solution.  We should do this now instead of waiting.


It can be a real stress reliever to have a rich fantasy life.
 
LordJiro [OhFark]
2023-02-04 4:42:55 PM  

aimtastic: We have better document security at the car dealership where I work.


Judging by how many classified documents are showing up all the fark over the place, even discounting the ones that were stolen by the truckload by TFG, you apparently have better document security than the entire Federal government.
 
clkeagle [BareFark]
2023-02-04 4:49:44 PM  

hubiestubert: "How dare people snoop into the stuff we just left out in the hallway!"


Especially since the same body has routinely upheld that anything left in an unsecured garbage container has no expectation of privacy...
 
Bennie Crabtree
2023-02-04 5:39:39 PM  
Well that article is disingenuous as hell.

The burn bags in the hallway assume that the staff are already secure, and the building is secure. Until Dobbs was leaked, that was not in doubt.

This article is teahter in order to make the US citizens want the SCOTUS under surveillance. And that is extremely bad for a democracy. It is Soviet totalitarian levels of totalitariansim. It blast by Castro and Pol Pot right into Stalinism levels of FUBAR for a democracy's supreme court to be surveiled at the level of detail the article advocates.
 
cretinbob [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 6:38:51 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Which justices were responsible, lefty lamestream msm media CNN?

/Sarcasm because this timeline sucks.


All the timelines suck
 
mrmopar5287 [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 7:48:54 PM  
Maybe the Justices are using private email as a dead drop? They all have a shared email account that uses HTTPS when they log in and they save drafts for each other to retrieve instead of sending them across unsecured channels?
 
mrmopar5287 [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 10:29:45 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: The burn bags in the hallway


Exactly.

OOOGA-BOOGA! burn bags are in OPEN hallways!

Open to whom? Vetted staffers, and not the public? Oh, the horror!
 
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