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(BGR)   Pulled HBO Max shows including Babylon 5, Westworld, The Nevers, and many more will soon be on Roku and Tubi. "Sooner or later, everyone comes to Babylon 5"   (bgr.com) divider line
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2023-02-04 6:38:17 AM  
Good. I still have factory sealed Babylon 5 collectible card game packs from 20 years ago that I'd like to cash in on some day.
 
2023-02-04 6:40:54 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Good. I still have factory sealed Babylon 5 collectible card game packs from 20 years ago that I'd like to cash in on some day.


Supposedly there are books with stories that occur in between episodes or continue the story after Sleeping in Light.

I should try to read those one day.
 
2023-02-04 8:07:34 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Good. I still have factory sealed Babylon 5 collectible card game packs from 20 years ago that I'd like to cash in on some day.


Hi I'm 12 and what's a card game?

/I kid.
 
2023-02-04 8:12:54 AM  
I should have known.  Someone gave me an Amazon gift card and I bought the whole series on DVD a year or so back.  Parts of it are still sealed.  Wonder if they'll take it back.
 
2023-02-04 8:27:53 AM  
B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.
 
2023-02-04 8:31:16 AM  
The Westworld reboot started out strong. Then crashed.
Seriously, when the best part of your show is the opening credits....just hang it up.
 
2023-02-04 8:33:45 AM  

optikeye: The Westworld reboot started out strong. Then crashed.
Seriously, when the best part of your show is the opening credits....just hang it up.


First season and a half were really great and left open a lot of possibilities.

It went to sh*t in record speed after that.
 
2023-02-04 8:41:42 AM  

optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.


It got decently better after the Byron arc in the beginning.
 
2023-02-04 9:40:43 AM  
Tubi is lowkey goated.
 
2023-02-04 9:58:48 AM  

optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.


For those not aware: It was a planned five-year arc, then they found out they were only getting four seasons and crammed the important parts of the fifth season into the fourth season.  Then they were told they got a fifth season anyway, even though they had already wrapped their main story arc, and they had to piece together story for an extra year of show.

Most of Season 5 isn't that bad.  I find it on average more enjoyable than the first season.  The first season is incredibly important, but it can be a bit of a slog the first time through if you don't already know where things are going.
 
2023-02-04 10:00:20 AM  
Got the prime video copies on Black Friday a few years back. No need to keep track of my 20 year old media now :)
 
2023-02-04 10:02:40 AM  

optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.


The show was cancelled so they rushed the overall story to fit... then it got renewed for another year so they stretched it out.  Really, JMS should have backed away from the money and said "we finished it last year when you cancelled us, it's over".  But money vs. artistic integrity, I think we know which usually wins, right?

B5 has some awesome character arcs in it performed by good actors, but a lot of dialog that makes you cringe.  And a lot of not so great actors.  And the underlying reason for all the conflict in the story is just dumb.

And the special effects really don't hold up at all... especially since they royally messed up the CGI conversion to widescreen.   It's a shame it would cost too much to do, but the show could really use someone with access to the original live action wide aspect video redoing ALL of the CGI in modern quality.
 
2023-02-04 10:04:26 AM  
I have all of Babylon 5 on DVD, and threw out my old VHS tapes that I taped them all off the air with, in the 90's.  But I still remember the show well enough that I haven't felt the urge to rewatch in a very long time.
 
2023-02-04 10:08:01 AM  
Wow, farking incredible they sold on their own properties to different streaming services. I mean, what's the farking point of an HBO sub if they break up all their original shiat and sell it on?  Sopranos on Hulu next?  Oh wait, it's already there, now let's see if it gets cancelled on HBO...

Discovery execs are farking imbeciles.
 
2023-02-04 10:21:30 AM  

bostonguy: Supposedly there are books with stories that occur in between episodes or continue the story after Sleeping in Light.

I should try to read those one day.


I have them.  They're pretty decent.

NeoCortex42: optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.

For those not aware: It was a planned five-year arc, then they found out they were only getting four seasons and crammed the important parts of the fifth season into the fourth season.  Then they were told they got a fifth season anyway, even though they had already wrapped their main story arc, and they had to piece together story for an extra year of show.

Most of Season 5 isn't that bad.  I find it on average more enjoyable than the first season.  The first season is incredibly important, but it can be a bit of a slog the first time through if you don't already know where things are going.


Once the Byron episodes are done, it gets back on track very well.  The last 5 episodes are really damn good.  So is the one episode penned by Neil Gaiman.

In the realm of 'the last season sucks', it's no where near the badness of things like Heroes, Game of Thrones and especially Battlestar Galactica.
 
2023-02-04 10:23:38 AM  
 
2023-02-04 10:24:31 AM  

optikeye: The Westworld reboot started out strong. Then crashed.
Seriously, when the best part of your show is the opening credits....just hang it up.


It was always awful. The sex and violence were juvenile, and the shows love of jumbling timelines had no purpose except to surprise the audience with a big reveal for the sake of a surprise.

Simply put: Nolan is a hack.
 
2023-02-04 10:30:47 AM  

thornhill: optikeye: The Westworld reboot started out strong. Then crashed.
Seriously, when the best part of your show is the opening credits....just hang it up.

It was always awful. The sex and violence were juvenile, and the shows love of jumbling timelines had no purpose except to surprise the audience with a big reveal for the sake of a surprise.

Simply put: Nolan is a hack.


Let's be clear, Great Value Nolan is a hack.

Fwiw, the sex and violence being juvenile was the point - to show humans being complete twats if allowed to be complete twats.

However, that's as much defense the show deserves. What a surprise that when Anthony Hopkins left the story, it went to hell. It was a single season show and that's it.

I am also glad that Tubi is not making more episodes.
 
2023-02-04 10:32:39 AM  

Lord Bear: bostonguy: Supposedly there are books with stories that occur in between episodes or continue the story after Sleeping in Light.

I should try to read those one day.

I have them.  They're pretty decent.NeoCortex42: optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.

For those not aware: It was a planned five-year arc, then they found out they were only getting four seasons and crammed the important parts of the fifth season into the fourth season.  Then they were told they got a fifth season anyway, even though they had already wrapped their main story arc, and they had to piece together story for an extra year of show.

Most of Season 5 isn't that bad.  I find it on average more enjoyable than the first season.  The first season is incredibly important, but it can be a bit of a slog the first time through if you don't already know where things are going.

Once the Byron episodes are done, it gets back on track very well.  The last 5 episodes are really damn good.  So is the one episode penned by Neil Gaiman.

In the realm of 'the last season sucks', it's no where near the badness of things like Heroes, Game of Thrones and especially Battlestar Galactica.


I don't know why you included Heroes there. Nobody expected the last season to be good. That show was terrible as early as the second season.
 
2023-02-04 10:34:14 AM  

NeoCortex42: I don't know why you included Heroes there. Nobody expected the last season to be good. That show was terrible as early as the second season.


I honestly thought the second second WAS the last.  Anyways, the dropoff from the mostly good first season was massive.
 
2023-02-04 10:35:26 AM  

NeoCortex42: optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.

For those not aware: It was a planned five-year arc, then they found out they were only getting four seasons and crammed the important parts of the fifth season into the fourth season.  Then they were told they got a fifth season anyway, even though they had already wrapped their main story arc, and they had to piece together story for an extra year of show.

Most of Season 5 isn't that bad.  I find it on average more enjoyable than the first season.  The first season is incredibly important, but it can be a bit of a slog the first time through if you don't already know where things are going.


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2023-02-04 10:42:07 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: NeoCortex42: optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.

For those not aware: It was a planned five-year arc, then they found out they were only getting four seasons and crammed the important parts of the fifth season into the fourth season.  Then they were told they got a fifth season anyway, even though they had already wrapped their main story arc, and they had to piece together story for an extra year of show.

Most of Season 5 isn't that bad.  I find it on average more enjoyable than the first season.  The first season is incredibly important, but it can be a bit of a slog the first time through if you don't already know where things are going.

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I get what you're saying, but for B5 it's worth it. Seasons 2-4 are some of the best scripted sci-fi to ever be on TV.
 
2023-02-04 10:43:49 AM  

Lord Bear: NeoCortex42: I don't know why you included Heroes there. Nobody expected the last season to be good. That show was terrible as early as the second season.

I honestly thought the second second WAS the last.  Anyways, the dropoff from the mostly good first season was massive.


I watched the entire series (including the reboot/sequel).  As bad as the drop was to season 2, it got so much worse. I was basically watching it as a comedy by the time it finished.

It's the same way I watched Syfy's Helix. It was so utterly ridiculous, I loved it.
 
2023-02-04 10:44:20 AM  

portnoyd: thornhill: optikeye: The Westworld reboot started out strong. Then crashed.
Seriously, when the best part of your show is the opening credits....just hang it up.

It was always awful. The sex and violence were juvenile, and the shows love of jumbling timelines had no purpose except to surprise the audience with a big reveal for the sake of a surprise.

Simply put: Nolan is a hack.

Let's be clear, Great Value Nolan is a hack.

Fwiw, the sex and violence being juvenile was the point - to show humans being complete twats if allowed to be complete twats.

However, that's as much defense the show deserves. What a surprise that when Anthony Hopkins left the story, it went to hell. It was a single season show and that's it.

I am also glad that Tubi is not making more episodes.


But to make that point, they didn't need to show it over and over again - it became gratuitous and was done simply to appeal to viewers who get a thrill from that stuff. It was rarely shot and staged in a way to make viewers uncomfortable to watch - the sex, specifically, was often hot men and women getting naked.
 
2023-02-04 10:44:57 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: [imgs.xkcd.com image 399x389]


Babylon 5 is a novel on screen.

Do you expect the first page of a novel to hook you in?

The first season, like much of the beginning of a novel, is world building and character building so that when the payoffs come later, they are that much more amazing. But few people realize this nowadays.
 
2023-02-04 10:45:19 AM  

deadsanta: Wow, farking incredible they sold on their own properties to different streaming services. I mean, what's the farking point of an HBO sub if they break up all their original shiat and sell it on?  Sopranos on Hulu next?  Oh wait, it's already there, now let's see if it gets cancelled on HBO...

Discovery execs are farking imbeciles.


It's crazy.  The one rule of streaming has always been that original content is only on the channel that produced it. No more for HBO.  No reason to stay a customer if all the good stuff is gone.
 
2023-02-04 10:46:21 AM  
I have the first 4 seasons on DVD...and Prime Video (I stop at the end of Season 4... Season 5 was awful, and lets pretend most of the straight to video movies don't exist.)
the only reason I bothered with the HBO Max version is the HD upconversion...so unless Tubi has it in HD, I'm good.
 
2023-02-04 10:47:12 AM  

bostonguy: Do you expect the first page of a novel to hook you in?


The best ones do.
 
2023-02-04 10:48:07 AM  

NeoCortex42: Tyrone Slothrop: NeoCortex42: optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.

For those not aware: It was a planned five-year arc, then they found out they were only getting four seasons and crammed the important parts of the fifth season into the fourth season.  Then they were told they got a fifth season anyway, even though they had already wrapped their main story arc, and they had to piece together story for an extra year of show.

Most of Season 5 isn't that bad.  I find it on average more enjoyable than the first season.  The first season is incredibly important, but it can be a bit of a slog the first time through if you don't already know where things are going.

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I get what you're saying, but for B5 it's worth it. Seasons 2-4 are some of the best scripted sci-fi to ever be on TV.


The first season of B5 isn't bad, per se.  It's just not as good as the rest of the series.  There are some dog episodes, but its mostly watchable.  And the character development and worldbuilding is absolutely necessary.  Its not like Star Trek and Star Wars where you know all the major players.  B5 characters are way more nuanced, and so is the political situation.

My favorite episode of the entire series is in the first season (Signs and Portents).  It's where the show goes from "average sci-fi" to "Whoa, something is going on here".
 
2023-02-04 10:52:28 AM  
I tried to watch Westworld. I think I got thru five episodes. Boring wheel spinning; a storyline that was outrun by a turtle. Even gratuitous boobies couldn't keep me roped. A waste of Evan Rachel Wood and Jeffrey Wright.
 
2023-02-04 10:53:57 AM  

Lord Bear: The first season of B5 isn't bad, per se.  It's just not as good as the rest of the series.  There are some dog episodes, but its mostly watchable.  And the character development and worldbuilding is absolutely necessary.


I've rewatched B5 so many times that the Shadow War is pretty boring to me now. When I want to watch a random episode, I'll often pick random ones that are side stories that focus on the characters I've grown to love.

So I'll watch Survivors (Garibaldi and his friend's daughter, no not like that), TKO (for Ivanova and her father, not for the boxing match), and By Any Means Necessary (for the dockers' guild and their plot).

It's the world building that gets you to love the characters in the first place. Then, when stuff happens to them in the main story, you care about it that much more.

The problem with having BBC-like 10-episode seasons is that all of the one-off, world-building episodes are cut to have only episodes that focus on the main plot. And that kills much of the enjoyment.
 
2023-02-04 11:19:23 AM  

Lord Bear: bostonguy: Supposedly there are books with stories that occur in between episodes or continue the story after Sleeping in Light.

I should try to read those one day.

I have them.  They're pretty decent.NeoCortex42: optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.

For those not aware: It was a planned five-year arc, then they found out they were only getting four seasons and crammed the important parts of the fifth season into the fourth season.  Then they were told they got a fifth season anyway, even though they had already wrapped their main story arc, and they had to piece together story for an extra year of show.

Most of Season 5 isn't that bad.  I find it on average more enjoyable than the first season.  The first season is incredibly important, but it can be a bit of a slog the first time through if you don't already know where things are going.

Once the Byron episodes are done, it gets back on track very well.  The last 5 episodes are really damn good.  So is the one episode penned by Neil Gaiman.

In the realm of 'the last season sucks', it's no where near the badness of things like Heroes, Game of Thrones and especially Battlestar Galactica.


Heroes only had one season.
 
2023-02-04 11:24:41 AM  

NeoCortex42: optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.

For those not aware: It was a planned five-year arc, then they found out they were only getting four seasons and crammed the important parts of the fifth season into the fourth season.  Then they were told they got a fifth season anyway, even though they had already wrapped their main story arc, and they had to piece together story for an extra year of show.

Most of Season 5 isn't that bad.  I find it on average more enjoyable than the first season.  The first season is incredibly important, but it can be a bit of a slog the first time through if you don't already know where things are going.


For those not aware of the nitty-gritty:

Bab 5 was produced by PTEN, which was a collaboration between Warner Bros and ChrisCraft.

Yes, a farking boat company decided to get into media production, because in the late 80s/early 90s, cocaine made it seem like not the worst decision.

PTEN was making 3-4 shows, and B5 was the only one that lasted more than a season.  The second biggest hit was the Kung Fu reboot.  Other than that?  Remember Pointman?  TimeTrax?

So it's a miracle B5 got four full seasons given that shaky of a production company.
 
2023-02-04 11:27:32 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Bab 5 was produced by PTEN, which was a collaboration between Warner Bros and ChrisCraft.

Yes, a farking boat company decided to get into media production, because in the late 80s/early 90s, cocaine made it seem like not the worst decision.


Cocaine is responsible for Babylon 5?

It is a hell of a drug.
 
2023-02-04 11:28:35 AM  

NeoCortex42: Lord Bear: bostonguy: Supposedly there are books with stories that occur in between episodes or continue the story after Sleeping in Light.

I should try to read those one day.

I have them.  They're pretty decent.NeoCortex42: optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.

For those not aware: It was a planned five-year arc, then they found out they were only getting four seasons and crammed the important parts of the fifth season into the fourth season.  Then they were told they got a fifth season anyway, even though they had already wrapped their main story arc, and they had to piece together story for an extra year of show.

Most of Season 5 isn't that bad.  I find it on average more enjoyable than the first season.  The first season is incredibly important, but it can be a bit of a slog the first time through if you don't already know where things are going.

Once the Byron episodes are done, it gets back on track very well.  The last 5 episodes are really damn good.  So is the one episode penned by Neil Gaiman.

In the realm of 'the last season sucks', it's no where near the badness of things like Heroes, Game of Thrones and especially Battlestar Galactica.

I don't know why you included Heroes there. Nobody expected the last season to be good. That show was terrible as early as the second season.


That was industrial-grade studio interference. Heroes was supposed to have an entirely new cast in season 2, but NBCU wanted to keep the actors people recognized, so there was a ground-up rewrite.

/and then the writers' strike made things worse
 
2023-02-04 11:29:32 AM  

thornhill: It was always awful. The sex and violence were juvenile, and the shows love of jumbling timelines had no purpose except to surprise the audience with a big reveal for the sake of a surprise.


Growing up, they'd run a Twilight Zone marathon on the local independent channel every Thanksgiving. You watch enough Twilight Zone episodes, you don't get surprised by any kind of twist after awhile. The last twist that I genuinely didn't see coming was Arrival w/ Amy Adams.
 
2023-02-04 11:39:18 AM  

labman: deadsanta: Wow, farking incredible they sold on their own properties to different streaming services. I mean, what's the farking point of an HBO sub if they break up all their original shiat and sell it on?  Sopranos on Hulu next?  Oh wait, it's already there, now let's see if it gets cancelled on HBO...

Discovery execs are farking imbeciles.

It's crazy.  The one rule of streaming has always been that original content is only on the channel that produced it. No more for HBO.  No reason to stay a customer if all the good stuff is gone.


It's always been more nuanced than that. Some of the shows have been produced by other production companies and the streaming service they first appear on merely have a right of first refusal when the distribution rights come up for renewal. And this is why some shows premier on different streaming services elsewhere in the world.
 
2023-02-04 11:49:41 AM  

Unsung_Hero: optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.

The show was cancelled so they rushed the overall story to fit... then it got renewed for another year so they stretched it out.  Really, JMS should have backed away from the money and said "we finished it last year when you cancelled us, it's over".  But money vs. artistic integrity, I think we know which usually wins, right?

B5 has some awesome character arcs in it performed by good actors, but a lot of dialog that makes you cringe.  And a lot of not so great actors.  And the underlying reason for all the conflict in the story is just dumb.

And the special effects really don't hold up at all... especially since they royally messed up the CGI conversion to widescreen.   It's a shame it would cost too much to do, but the show could really use someone with access to the original live action wide aspect video redoing ALL of the CGI in modern quality.


The HBO Max version looked a lot better because they remastered the live action content in HD for the original film and then they upscaled the CGI footage pretty decently, keeping it in the original 4:3 ratio so it wouldn't look as awful as the DVD release. Not as good as a full redo of the effects would be (these days they could probably do it cheaply in Unreal Engine), but good enough for a rewatch.
 
2023-02-04 11:50:19 AM  
I've heard about how good B5 is for years so I tried watching on HBO. I just couldn't get into it's groove. But while watching the first two episodes I checked out it's IMDB page, and basically, everyone has prematurely died. I know there are cursed shows, but this one seems so bad it could leak over to its viewers :)

If I were to ever give it another try, anyone have a suggestion on a season and episode to start on to see it at it's best?
 
2023-02-04 11:55:32 AM  

zstorm: I've heard about how good B5 is for years so I tried watching on HBO. I just couldn't get into it's groove. But while watching the first two episodes I checked out it's IMDB page, and basically, everyone has prematurely died. I know there are cursed shows, but this one seems so bad it could leak over to its viewers :)

If I were to ever give it another try, anyone have a suggestion on a season and episode to start on to see it at it's best?


As far as the overall plot goes, the first GREAT episode is S1 E13 - Signs and Portents. Then it goes down a bit again until the season one finale. You will appreciate all the other episodes a lot more after you've seen the entire series.

But then season 2 will blow your mind. Season 3 will blow your mind even more. And then season 4 will make it explode completely.
 
2023-02-04 11:57:44 AM  

thornhill: labman: deadsanta: Wow, farking incredible they sold on their own properties to different streaming services. I mean, what's the farking point of an HBO sub if they break up all their original shiat and sell it on?  Sopranos on Hulu next?  Oh wait, it's already there, now let's see if it gets cancelled on HBO...

Discovery execs are farking imbeciles.

It's crazy.  The one rule of streaming has always been that original content is only on the channel that produced it. No more for HBO.  No reason to stay a customer if all the good stuff is gone.

It's always been more nuanced than that. Some of the shows have been produced by other production companies and the streaming service they first appear on merely have a right of first refusal when the distribution rights come up for renewal. And this is why some shows premier on different streaming services elsewhere in the world.


I'm sure they run the metrics and have sold off the bottom 20% of material that is never watched.

Babylon 5 came out 30 years ago.
 
2023-02-04 11:59:07 AM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Babylon 5 came out 30 years ago.


YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE

/ kidding
 
2023-02-04 12:02:14 PM  

deadsanta: Wow, farking incredible they sold on their own properties to different streaming services.


It's a money grab.  No different than splitting Disney owned content between Disney + and Hulu.  They get paid twice.
 
2023-02-04 12:02:20 PM  

UNC_Samurai: NeoCortex42: Lord Bear: bostonguy: Supposedly there are books with stories that occur in between episodes or continue the story after Sleeping in Light.

I should try to read those one day.

I have them.  They're pretty decent.NeoCortex42: optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.

For those not aware: It was a planned five-year arc, then they found out they were only getting four seasons and crammed the important parts of the fifth season into the fourth season.  Then they were told they got a fifth season anyway, even though they had already wrapped their main story arc, and they had to piece together story for an extra year of show.

Most of Season 5 isn't that bad.  I find it on average more enjoyable than the first season.  The first season is incredibly important, but it can be a bit of a slog the first time through if you don't already know where things are going.

Once the Byron episodes are done, it gets back on track very well.  The last 5 episodes are really damn good.  So is the one episode penned by Neil Gaiman.

In the realm of 'the last season sucks', it's no where near the badness of things like Heroes, Game of Thrones and especially Battlestar Galactica.

I don't know why you included Heroes there. Nobody expected the last season to be good. That show was terrible as early as the second season.

That was industrial-grade studio interference. Heroes was supposed to have an entirely new cast in season 2, but NBCU wanted to keep the actors people recognized, so there was a ground-up rewrite.

/and then the writers' strike made things worse


Yep.  Keeping the original cast around led to the inevitable power creep that killed the quality of the show.  They constantly had to find ways to hamstring Peter, Hiro, and Sylar when they shouldn't have even been an issue going forward.  Sylar should have died, while Peter and Hiro just have cameo-level appearances down the line.
 
2023-02-04 12:13:02 PM  

labman: deadsanta: Wow, farking incredible they sold on their own properties to different streaming services. I mean, what's the farking point of an HBO sub if they break up all their original shiat and sell it on?  Sopranos on Hulu next?  Oh wait, it's already there, now let's see if it gets cancelled on HBO...

Discovery execs are farking imbeciles.

It's crazy.  The one rule of streaming has always been that original content is only on the channel that produced it. No more for HBO.  No reason to stay a customer if all the good stuff is gone.


Their thought process (I'm not guessing at this, this is what Zaslav literally stated) is that people stay/become customers for new content not old content, which, aside from shows like long-running sitcoms or Sopranos which I'm sure people still regularly binge to this day, is very very true.  No sense in wasting money paying residuals from a subscription to constantly growing old content almost no one watches.  They're want to use it to exclusively produce/acquire new stuff that will keep people subscribed.

But it's now available (I'm confused if it'll be on roku, tubi, and their own FAST, if it'll only be on roku and tubi until their FAST service launches, or if it'll be split between the 3) FOR FREAKING FREE... so who the hell cares?

it boggles the mind how reddit and fark biatch and moan about a huge treasure trove of content, previously locked behind a pretty expensive subscription, being released for FREE is somehow a bad thing.

/And it makes sense for old content to be on a free FAST service because ads pay out per viewer.  So if it gets 7 viewers or 7000, the ad payout will scale accordingly and be able to pay for the residuals regardless.
 
2023-02-04 12:29:57 PM  

NeoCortex42: optikeye: B5 tanked HARD in the last season.
Like really hard. The peak of the story arc was one of the best on TV....then it just farked up.

For those not aware: It was a planned five-year arc, then they found out they were only getting four seasons and crammed the important parts of the fifth season into the fourth season.  Then they were told they got a fifth season anyway, even though they had already wrapped their main story arc, and they had to piece together story for an extra year of show.


I think it's more accurate to say it was cancelled after season 4, but then the production company sold another season order to a new buyer in syndication. This is why Claudia Christian didn't come back, as she didn't want to take a pay cut to syndicated show rates. The rest of the cast decided to see it through to the end. (Money is money I guess)

Also, what is the status of the B5 remake that JMS has been working on?
 
2023-02-04 12:35:12 PM  

zstorm: I've heard about how good B5 is for years so I tried watching on HBO. I just couldn't get into it's groove. But while watching the first two episodes I checked out it's IMDB page, and basically, everyone has prematurely died. I know there are cursed shows, but this one seems so bad it could leak over to its viewers :)

If I were to ever give it another try, anyone have a suggestion on a season and episode to start on to see it at it's best?


If you're not a purist and want a decent intro to the B5 universe then start with the B5 movie "In the Beginning."

There are some minor spoilers for seasons 1 and 2, but it's a much stronger start than the episodes by themselves.
 
2023-02-04 12:35:14 PM  

steve_wmn: Also, what is the status of the B5 remake that JMS has been working on?


It's still up in the air. JMS is on Twitter, where he posts updates (among other things).

https://twitter.com/straczynski
 
2023-02-04 12:36:46 PM  

untoldforce: If you're not a purist and want a decent intro to the B5 universe then start with the B5 movie "In the Beginning."

There are some minor spoilers for seasons 1 and 2, but it's a much stronger start than the episodes by themselves.


Very good idea.
 
2023-02-04 12:38:40 PM  
Also, obligatory.

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